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| THIS IS A MANGA ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS ANYTHING BEYOND THIS CHAPTER. ---------------------------------------- I AM THE BONE OF MY SWORDS Well there's Shirou and that infamous line. Really nice to see Unlimited Blade Works again :> |
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| DAT NEW CHANT DAT SNOWY UBW LANDSCAPE ALL THE BADASS LINES. Dat moment when a freaking mahou shoujo "spin off" represents Shirou better than an anime adaptation of his main route. Prillya is the only fate worth following now. Best Route. "Please keep me company until my swords run out" might be just as badass as the variations of "do you have enough swords" line we had already in FSN and prillya. |
AhenshihaelJun 25, 2016 12:58 AM
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CerberusGate said: I wonder what does the additional lines attached to the chant mean. Is Shirou saying all those lines or does it have something to do with his being being invaded by Heroic Spirit EMIYA? Its the same in the normal chant One in japanese one in english. |
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CerberusGate said: Ah... kinda like how EMIYA chants in Engrish and Shirou chants in Japanese but both being shown at the same time? Sounds like a mouthful to speak (not complaining about it, just remarking). Emiya chants in english, Shirou chants in japanese. Both are portrayed in both. |
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CerberusGate said: I was think that the dual speech has something to do with what Shirou says about EMIYA invading (eroding) him as he uses the Archer install. Nah, UBW chant is always portrayed in an english version and a japanese version that both are somewhat different. EMIYA: UBW Shirou Miyu Shirou: |
AhenshihaelJun 25, 2016 11:32 AM
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| ''Sorry, but please keep me Company, until my Swords run out'' And so, 4th Route turns from better HF to better UBW. 4th Route best Route. Interesting tough that the Card seems to be having a similiar Effect as the GARm, Archer invading BestShero's Body and stuff. And Dat Chant. |
Shrimperor said: ''Sorry, but please keep me Company, until my Swords run out'' And so, 4th Route turns from better HF to better UBW. 4th Route best Route. Interesting tough that the Card seems to be having a similiar Effect as the GARm, Archer invading BestShero's Body and stuff. And Dat Chant. So far we only saw grail vessels and empty dolls install the cards. There's no indication that a normal person should be even able to use installs. Chances are that the only reason Shirou could use that card is because it was Emiya(and thus the card was part of the same existence as he) and thus it follows different logic than normal card installs. |
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| Dat ART Dat FIGHTING Dat chant Dat BADASS LINE can't this flash back arc go forever ? it's too good its great never though i would be that much hyped and excitationed about fate illya damn drei is a master piece at this point i pity anyone still think this is a loli mahou shoujo manga |
| I still dont understand how he's self destraction work at this point getting too much power in shourt time must be very heavy on his body |
| I came all over. This Shirou is too cool. I'm going gay for him. Dat New Chant and all his BADASS dialogue. Esp the panel showing his hands tied up by the chains. His face looked too BA!! Dat Landscape of the reality marble!! CerberusGate said: This flashback arc can do no wrong at this point. I pity the fools who would blindly hate Fate/Kaleid without even witnessing Drei. They probably think ufo is the pinnacle of Fate (which I pity them for). SO MUCH FACTS!! I feel so bad. |
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Devil_Slayer said: I still dont understand how he's self destraction work at this point getting too much power in shourt time must be very heavy on his body Same was as in HF. Writing up parts of same existence and the said existence eroding your own. |
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| We UBW route now. Whether or not the result will be the same as UBW, however, is the question. |
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This chapter.... |
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| Damn. Gonna Hv to wait for illya drei zwei for this to gept adapted >_< |
| bruh |
| UBW + HF = BEST EMIYA |
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| Read this with EMIYA as BGM. Needless to say that i almost cried |
| Shirou keeps hitting so many death flags that you actually expect him to die in his own flashback. |
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Shinjisus said: The question is, should Prillya Shero be able to create the reality marble? Maybe it should be like in HF. If you think it, both refused to save others for saving the person they loved, so Prillya Shirou should be incopatble with UBW because his innner world is not the same as EMIYA one. Maybe that is the reason of the erosion he suffers, tho. Except that is not why he was incompatible with it in HF. He was incompatible with ARCHER's UBW. Try again. |
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Shinjisus said: MiyuShirou uses his own magic circuit. Unlike HF shirou.The question is, should Prillya Shero be able to create the reality marble? Maybe it should be like in HF. If you think it, both refused to save others for saving the person they loved, so Prillya Shirou should be incopatble with UBW because his innner world is not the same as EMIYA one. Maybe that is the reason of the erosion he suffers, tho. |
| This is beyond amazing O_O |
| Does casting UBW relate to the idea of being the hero of justice ? lol this is the first time i hear about it , i know UBW should reflect his inner self but that is it , hero of justice or not what does that matter about ? ALSO while this shirou is similar to the HF they are different , the HF one is completly selfish and want to save sakura even if it's mean ignoring everyone around him while this shirou became the way he is because of many tragedys hitting him one after another "losing his father , losing his sister , getting betraed by his best frined , and last sakura who is the last thing he have get killed in front of him because he was powerless " which make him went "fuck it i am done with this at least i will save my sister and prove i am worthy of something before i die | ^ this is my take on kalied shirou |
| Anyway this shirou shit on every other shirou in term of "power , skills , attitude , personality , story " |
Devil_Slayer said: Does casting UBW relate to the idea of being the hero of justice ? lol this is the first time i hear about it , i know UBW should reflect his inner self but that is it , hero of justice or not what does that matter about ? ALSO while this shirou is similar to the HF they are different , the HF one is completly selfish and want to save sakura even if it's mean ignoring everyone around him while this shirou became the way he is because of many tragedys hitting him one after another "losing his father , losing his sister , getting betraed by his best frined , and last sakura who is the last thing he have get killed in front of him because he was powerless " which make him went "fuck it i am done with this at least i will save my sister and prove i am worthy of something before i die | ^ this is my take on kalied shirou UBW reflects the life of Emiya Shirou, a man who lived like a sword. It has nothing to do with ideals. Every Emiya Shirou can develop UBW since every Emiya Shirou is Emiya Shirou and UBW is the reality marble of Emiya SHirou, but since RM is representation of the user's psychology and user's inner world turned outward, each Shirou will have diferent chant and the UBW will look different, according to what defines that Shirou's psychology, ideals, mental state, etc. The problem with Archer in HF was that shirou was directly accessing Archer's circuits and Archer's UBW - and no shit Archer's UBW is incompatible with anyone but Archer. This is more like in UBW where Shirou is using the exp and memories he leeched to cast it himself. HF Shirou is implied to |
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Fai said: Devil_Slayer said: Does casting UBW relate to the idea of being the hero of justice ? lol this is the first time i hear about it , i know UBW should reflect his inner self but that is it , hero of justice or not what does that matter about ? ALSO while this shirou is similar to the HF they are different , the HF one is completly selfish and want to save sakura even if it's mean ignoring everyone around him while this shirou became the way he is because of many tragedys hitting him one after another "losing his father , losing his sister , getting betraed by his best frined , and last sakura who is the last thing he have get killed in front of him because he was powerless " which make him went "fuck it i am done with this at least i will save my sister and prove i am worthy of something before i die | ^ this is my take on kalied shirou UBW reflects the life of Emiya Shirou, a man who lived like a sword. It has nothing to do with ideals. Every Emiya Shirou can develop UBW since every Emiya Shirou is Emiya Shirou and UBW is the reality marble of Emiya SHirou, but since RM is representation of the user's psychology and user's inner world turned outward, each Shirou will have diferent chant and the UBW will look different, according to what defines that Shirou's psychology, ideals, mental state, etc. The problem with Archer in HF was that shirou was directly accessing Archer's circuits and Archer's UBW - and no shit Archer's UBW is incompatible with anyone but Archer. This is more like in UBW where Shirou is using the exp and memories he leeched to cast it himself. HF Shirou is implied to Fai said: Devil_Slayer said: Does casting UBW relate to the idea of being the hero of justice ? lol this is the first time i hear about it , i know UBW should reflect his inner self but that is it , hero of justice or not what does that matter about ? ALSO while this shirou is similar to the HF they are different , the HF one is completly selfish and want to save sakura even if it's mean ignoring everyone around him while this shirou became the way he is because of many tragedys hitting him one after another "losing his father , losing his sister , getting betraed by his best frined , and last sakura who is the last thing he have get killed in front of him because he was powerless " which make him went "fuck it i am done with this at least i will save my sister and prove i am worthy of something before i die | ^ this is my take on kalied shirou UBW reflects the life of Emiya Shirou, a man who lived like a sword. It has nothing to do with ideals. Every Emiya Shirou can develop UBW since every Emiya Shirou is Emiya Shirou and UBW is the reality marble of Emiya SHirou, but since RM is representation of the user's psychology and user's inner world turned outward, each Shirou will have diferent chant and the UBW will look different, according to what defines that Shirou's psychology, ideals, mental state, etc. The problem with Archer in HF was that shirou was directly accessing Archer's circuits and Archer's UBW - and no shit Archer's UBW is incompatible with anyone but Archer. This is more like in UBW where Shirou is using the exp and memories he leeched to cast it himself. HF Shirou is implied to i see ..... BTW how can shirou be this powerful in his base ? i know people can gain great power up if they install the servants card on himself but shirou doesn't use it anymore , is it because he liked himself to his future self ? too much power maybe heavy on his body there before he's destroying himself ? |
Devil_Slayer said: BTW how can shirou be this powerful in his base ? i know people can gain great power up if they install the servants card on himself but shirou doesn't use it anymore , is it because he liked himself to his future self ? too much power maybe heavy on his body there before he's destroying himself ? Tracing/projection allows the user to take on stats of the weapons he wields. He is able to keep up that level of stats as long as he can keep up the weapon. Which is nigh impossible against real actual noble phantasms(since a real thing and a fake illusion hitting each other causes the World to destroy the fake illusion and strains its user since Shirou has to maintain the projection mentally with each hit). Not to mention going against genuine heroic spirit who has trained and achieved his skills naturally, Shirou would still get destroyed. Adding to that he also gained a good deal of Archer's memories and experience - at least enough of it to use projection on level that already is damaging his skin and hair. Also this Shirou uses proper basics from the start unlike normal Shirou who had blocked circuits. So he is more efficient at using magecraft already. Overall all shirou's are natural hard counter to gilgamesh because Gilgamesh is defined by using dozens of unique ability weapons - which is Shirou's forte at imitating. However iF Shirou and Gil were to fight in melee with normal swords, Shirou would get destroyed. |
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Fai said: Devil_Slayer said: BTW how can shirou be this powerful in his base ? i know people can gain great power up if they install the servants card on himself but shirou doesn't use it anymore , is it because he liked himself to his future self ? too much power maybe heavy on his body there before he's destroying himself ? Tracing/projection allows the user to take on stats of the weapons he wields. He is able to keep up that level of stats as long as he can keep up the weapon. Which is nigh impossible against real actual noble phantasms(since a real thing and a fake illusion hitting each other causes the World to destroy the fake illusion and strains its user since Shirou has to maintain the projection mentally with each hit). Not to mention going against genuine heroic spirit who has trained and achieved his skills naturally, Shirou would still get destroyed. Adding to that he also gained a good deal of Archer's memories and experience - at least enough of it to use projection on level that already is damaging his skin and hair. Also this Shirou uses proper basics from the start unlike normal Shirou who had blocked circuits. So he is more efficient at using magecraft already. Overall all shirou's are natural hard counter to gilgamesh because Gilgamesh is defined by using dozens of unique ability weapons - which is Shirou's forte at imitating. However iF Shirou and Gil were to fight in melee with normal swords, Shirou would get destroyed. Are you saying that shirou can't beat any other heroic spirit ? he already beaten all these "doll " servant by himself in one night , from what gather this shirou > any other shirou and archer as well ... |
| I'm glad that I have not dropped this Now I have found a real Shero that fit this version of EMIYA |
rorimoeJun 28, 2016 7:09 PM
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| freaking epic and badass shirou i say. |
| Finally caught up on the few chapters I was behind on, and holy fucking shit! Miyuverse Shirou's new chant for Unlimited Blade Works was fucking amazing. I can't contain my excitement reading this series, I'm just sad I have to wait once a month to see more badass Shirou moments. Damn this flashback arc has lasted quite awhile too, this could be a whole season of the anime by itself if they decided to expand on the battles and stuff, which would be epic. I wonder how many more chapters of 3rei there will end up being before moving onto a sequel? Will it end at the end of this flashback arc? Or will there be another arc afterwards? Guess I'm hyped to see. |
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Except it does not. And that's not EMIYA, that's Generic Movie Orchestra with bits of Emiya track. Crow Claw's Emiya all the way. |
AhenshihaelJun 30, 2016 2:47 PM
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| Finally, after a week since I've read this chapter for the first time... I am still too excited to comment on everything (plus it would be repeating of what others have said), so I'll say just this: Fate/Kaleid Liner Prisma Illya 3rei!! Fate/Kaleid Liner: Heaven's Blade Works |
astroprogs said: If HF ended up being a single movie, what would it need to do so it can get a high score from all of you? Not air. |
Fai said: Except it does not. And that's not EMIYA, that's Generic Movie Orchestra with bits of Emiya track. Crow Claw's Emiya all the way. Agree, Crow Claw's suits this even better, I feel like this is what happen If there is a choice to protect Illya. I have mixed feelings about Kuro and Archer card. |
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| This may prove to be even better than canon. Truly, this Shirou as a combination of all the Shirou's is a badass on a whole 'nother level. Who knew a magical girl spinoff would turn into something this godlike?! Edit: I just realized this Shirou's version of UBW has fucking SNOW!! |
suikaMUSICJul 14, 2016 3:51 PM
| Shirou will most likely self destruction before finishing her off since once he open UBW the battle is pretty much decide and angelica doesn't have Ea funny since shirou from UBW "which is much weaker " beat gil you have to put in mind this shirou singl handly beated every servent in the holy grail war just before angilca |
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