| As some of you probably already now the second season of Super Lovers got announced yesterday. Since Super lovers is a BL anime that portrays the relationship of a sixteen year old boy and his twenty four year old step brother it was only a matter of time before the shit hit the fan. The complaints were many and varied ("IT'S GAY" – ain't nothing wrong with that; "Yuck a grown man screwing an eight year old boy" – Ren was sixteen when they started screwing which is perfectly legal in majority of Western countries and whatshisface had no romantic/sexual feeling whatsoever for him when the kid was eight so that's BS, you can't compare their relationship to the one Joseph Stalin and Nadezhda Alliluyeva had; "Ren looks so young" – sure, I don't like that either but I could say the same about KyoAni's moe blob girls; "Being pro fictional pedophilia = pro real life pedophilia" – you mean just like pro fictional violence = pro real life pedophilia huh huh amirite???), but they all had one thing in common: YAOI SHOTA FUCKING SUCKS AND IS RUINING ANIME! Yours truly doesn't think that that is the case because while I don't like shota or even borderline shota (so I understand if some people might not want to watch it) and I only rated Super lovers 5/10 I don't really think it's ruining anime since it's nowhere as popular as e.g. moeblobbery, lolis and ecchi harem fantasy BS (which I despise just as much or even more). So, my question to you is: do you think yaoi shota is ruining anime? Discuss No ad hominem or trolling pls, let's keep it civilized my honeybuns ~ |
Comic_SansJun 9, 2016 2:03 AM
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Comic_Sans said: Let's keep it civilized my honeybuns ~ i really doubt this.. anyways.. fantasy is fantasies... saying shouta ruined anime is nothing different than saying loli ruined anime... you can said what ever you want, but i couldn't care less... let people enjoy what they want as long nobody got pshycaly hurt... nobody forcing you watch them... |
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| Until it doesn't become mainstream I think it is fine despite me disliking it. |
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| >So, my question to you is: do you think yaoi shota is ruining anime? If you ask "will you watch an anime with yaoi shota as its main content" - the answer is no, because I'm a straight male. If you ask "is anime in danger from yaoi shota taking over it" - the answer is no, it is not a problem at the moment, and it's unlikely to become a problem. |
| i dont like yaoi---> i dont watch yaoi---> i dont give a shit |
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| I think it will be fine if everyone just ignored it. I heard about lots of stuff because of people protesting against it and how it will cause chaos if it became popular, only for it to backfire and actually become really popular. |
| I always see niggas brag about how anime will always be a male dominate medium no matter what, and apparently men in the animu industry don't like yaoi shota according to them. So even if there were a few more different yaoi series out then it ain't destroying shit. (though is it even shota? I mean the dude is 16). I still don't want to watch the show, but anyone saying its ruining the anime industry needs to shut the fuck up when it comes to threads claiming their favorite animu is ruining the anime industry. |
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| Seems like, at least in Japan, lolis are perfectly acceptable, so shotas wouldn't be any different. Is 16 even a shota? I honestly don't see yaoi overthrowing what is now the moe empire. It's all equal opportunity love and fapping. |
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| Well, first of all, the ages of these drawings mean absolutely nothing. Whether he's "16" or "18" or whatever, he's still a fictional character and therefore that aspect doesn't bother me in the least. Secondly, no....yaoi shota isn't ruining anime....that particular genre is miniscule compared to the entirety of all anime. Lastly, I really think we need to get off this meme that "X is ruining anime".....anime is perfectly fine the way it is. All tastes are subjective, and I as long as people keep watching, I see nothing wrong. |
| Tis a bit like asking something like Is Emo Pop ruining popular music innit So no |
| Has Boku no pico ruined anime?No..I don't watch yaoi and i don't give a damn about it but why some people watch in the first place if they don't like? |
| No single genre is "ruining" anime. |
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| Different people like different things. As times change genres rise and decline in popularity. While I don't like it someone likes it, and that's ok. |
| No, it doesn't. And I wouldn't call Super☆Lovers a shota anime to begin with. But that's another topic. |
| Yes, yes it is. Why, just yesterday I was enjoying episode 10 of Macross Delta, when, all of a sudden, the 2nd season of Super Lovers was announced. At that exact instant, the who guys from Super Lovers appeared in Macross Delta episode 10, and started fucking Hayate in the ass. Needless to say, this completely ruined the anime. |
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Helenus said: Yeah, I don't really think it's a shota anime either but a lot of people perceive it as one since Ren looks younger than he actually is (hence the complaints about pedophilia)And I wouldn't call Super☆Lovers a shota anime to begin with. But that's another topic. |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Shouta isn't running the anime industry since it was already ruined with loli cancer. Both things are equal in my eyes, the fact that it's BL/ Yaoi doesn't change anything. It makes me laugh to see people shitting on shouta while they watch some fantasy harem with some lolis. Pretty hypocritical in my opinion. |
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zal said: Until it doesn't become mainstream I think it is fine despite me disliking it. This. You could say the same as a bunch of hentai too. As long as they don't reach mainstream status, what little faith I have in this community stays. |
| I never watched them and I never will! . And I don't watch it, beats me |
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| No, shota yaoi will not ruin anime, just like loli and moe won't either. Anime is not a single pie where if a genre is popular, it will take the place of the others. Every genre that is popular helps bring more money to the industry which is a good thing, especially if you can target new demographics, like the female yaoi fangirls. |
| Dude calm the fuck down it's one series lol. It's also not really shota. The first couple of episodes have Ren as a kid but for most of the series he's in high school. And Haru doesn't do anything beyond kissing him until episode 9 where Unless they actually have sex in episode 10, which I haven't seen yet. But the series is pretty tame, really. Haru is a bit creepy but he never actually does anything sexual with Ren and he knows it's probably a bad thing to try. I'm not saying people have to like it or watch it or whatever else but please. Fujoshi may be "ruining" (actually enhancing) the anime industry but it's certainly not with shota lmao. |
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| I'm quite neutral about shounen-ai anime but it's usually the fans that give the genre a bad rep/name. I wouldn't say it's ruining the industry. |
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Zazie122 said: Who needs to calm down?Dude calm the fuck down it's one series lol. I don't have an issue with it, other people do |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| not sure if troll..... can we just accept the fact that NOTHING is "ruining anime"? EVERYTHING has its place in anime, whether you agree with it or not, that includes things meant to target straight females or homosexual males, leave it the fuck alone -___- this is just as dumb as the "is ecchi ruining anime?" threads i avoid yaoi and shouta and i couldn't give less of a shit that it exists, as long as people love it and as a bonus, it sells, who fucking cares? and its 2016... can we not get over this homophobia bullshit by now? its not like it was valid in the past in the first place.. but were supposed to move on yet ppl still can't shut up about things they find "offensive" for no reason |
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| No. There are people who do like their shonen-ai/yaoi so I don't see it as it ruining anything... |
| No people like you are ruining anime. |
Comic_Sans said: Zazie122 said: Who needs to calm down?Dude calm the fuck down it's one series lol. I don't have an issue with it, other people do I mean you say that, but everyone in this thread seems to be ok with it. |
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Yeah I misread your post haha. My bad. But yeah, people are freaking out for no reason when it's one series... fullmetalmasify said: No. There are people who do like their shonen-ai/yaoi and the ones you have a problem are those who are mostly homophobic (I'm sorry but I had to say it). Bullshit. They're made for a very niche audience in the first place, and it's no surprise that guys (well, mostly guys, I've seen girls who don't like it either) don't enjoy it. And a lot of the series have pretty... gross aspects to them and I'm not gonna defend the genre as much as I enjoy it. Most of it isn't to do with homophobia... |
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| In this thread, yes Not in the other thread though, muh nigga Tyrel even had to clean it |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: In this thread, yes Not in the other thread though, muh nigga Tyrel even had to clean it Yeah because it turned into an off topic middle east/pedophilia debate and because people were "starting shit up" Tyrel said: Thread Cleaned Off-topic posts that somehow turned into a middle-east debate removed, all other off-topic posts that went into pedophilia to a certain extent have also been removed. If you're coming here to purposely try to start shit up—don't. Where did Tyrel say that this had anything to do with Super Lovers? |
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Bobby2Hands said: See, that's the thing, people who had an issue with Super lovers being a yaoi shota/borderline shota/w-e you want to call it were starting shit up because apparently it's "immoral" or some shit like thatYeah because it turned into an off topic middle east/pedophilia debate and because people were "starting shit up" Sadly I forgot to save the URL to the waybackmachine before the thread got cleaned, otherwise I would've provided a link to it |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Is this srgoument really an issue worth a debate? Shoujo ai, shounen ai, BL, yuri, shota, loli, are all subgenres always existed since manga and anime were created, you like it you watch it, you don't like you watch something else. Plan and simple. All the argouments like fiction vs reality, calling names on other people tastes, trolling, are just redundant, stupid and make no sense at all, fiction is fiction and drawings don't have human rights nor it rapresent a real human being behaviour. They aren't mainstream at all, they were and still a niche for a niche fanbase, like many late night anime. Mainstream anime are show like Sazae-chan and One Piece. So in the end who cares, is just personal tastes. |
Fn76Jun 9, 2016 5:59 AM
| Shota is good if it's a trap tho.... #No homo |
SHORT ANSWER: YES Okay, why is that?ITS CANCER TO THE ANIME JUST LIKE SHOUJO GENRE Please elaborate |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| It's basically a case of this: Also the patriarky doesn't want women to masturbate |
JustALEX said: ^ that's really what all this is about#No homo |
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| I won't really say it is "ruining anime" as long as anime don't start introducing shouta yaoi tropes unnecessarily in anime that are not advertised as yaoi or shounen ai. [Key word: Unnecessarily. I don't mind if it goes well with the story] |
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men being oversexualized and is nothing more then sex objects for female viewers Okay, then I suppose you're against women being oversexualized and depicted as nothing more than sex objects for male viewers as well? |
Comic_SansJun 9, 2016 8:06 AM
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| It's still niche. It hasn't become so popular that it's beign forcefully introduced to shows for the sake of getting people's favour, in detriment of creativity. So I don't think it has "ruined" anime yet in the same level other "ruiners" of anime have done. |
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Shinjisus said: Mamster-P said: EVERYTHING has its place in anime Tenkuu Danzai Skelter+Heaven That has no place, mate. OT, idgaf about shounen ai and yaoi, but as long as some people enjoy them... What ruined anime was Boku no Pico becoming a meme. It is not the best advertisement for attracting normies into this xD I have no idea what that is but I'd prolly disagree anyway Ppl cab be into w/e they want, so if it makes it way into anime, w/e |
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Bobby2Hands said: No single genre is "ruining" anime. +1 This. If anime was entirely yaoi shota and no other genre, then we'd have a reason to be upset. As long as there are different genres for people of different tastes to enjoy, I don't see a problem with the existence and/or popularity of any genre. |
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| Shota romance isn't invading my SoL so there's no worries here. Pick your fujo anime carefully and you'll avoid it. |
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| People with shit tier waifu is ruining the world. Nothing less, nothing more. |
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