| There seems to be a lot of hate for mecha on Mal.Why do people hate mecha? |
| "The guy with the better robot wins" simply doesn't appeal to me. It's like watching formula 1. |
| Because it's the polar opposite of moe. THE polar opposite. A lot of people value that here, myself included. Mecha doesn't interest me, but I don't necessarily think that all shows that use mechas as a central aspect are inherently 'bad' as a result of it; it's just doesn't suit my tastes. |
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| I can tell you about my personal opinion. I simply find the whole theme unappealing. I am not sure why. I could only watch NGE, but that is probably because the Mecha aspect IMO was secondary. SInce, the EVAs are not exactly robotic. Don't even try to think why MAL does anything. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
| If you didn't grew up with mecha it can be hard to get into... Most people started with shounen fighter series, which are pretty opposite from mecha as far as the fighting goes (physical strength+some kind of magic vs piloting ability) At first i was too pretty reluctant with mecha, but eventually i grew to like the genre, after watching Geass, Eva and RahXephon (went into them blind without knowing about the mecha elements) And Code Geass and TTGL are pretty high rated so that's that.. these are the exception for many people I dont think its hate, just generally avoiding the genre because of preconceptions and whatnot; im sure that those who liked cg/ttgl might also like other mecha series if they wanted to |
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Nymphias said: Because it's the polar opposite of moe. THE polar opposite. We have our answer people . Nowadays when moe is king those filthy giant robots have no place .That aside I don't hate mecha ,I just avoid it . Dunno if people really hate it tho . |
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Gator said: "The guy with the better robot wins" simply doesn't appeal to me. It's like watching formula 1. This is soooo far from the truth, except if you're watching exclusively shitty mecha shows Oo. |
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romagia said: at first i was pretty reluctant with mecha, but eventually i grew to like the genre, after watching geass, eva and rahxephon (went into them blind without knowing about the mecha elements) The mecha elements present in Code Geass are pretty shallow. The story was hardly centered around them, and the abilities of the Knightmares were only a third of the combat focus. |
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Clebardman said: Gator said: "The guy with the better robot wins" simply doesn't appeal to me. It's like watching formula 1. This is soooo far from the truth, except if you're watching shitty mechas Oo. Honestly though, aside from NGE and MAYBE Lagan, most mechas I know of are basically this. Did you have something else in mind? BTW, by "mecha" I don't mean every mecha. I do not consider power suits or humans transforming into some kind of (not fucking giant) robot Mecha. For example, I do not consider Code Geass a typical mecha, like Gundam. |
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Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
| The mechanical designs don't appeal to me. I rather watch action with humans fighting. I'm still going to watch Gundam at some point since they can't be classics for nothing. If a mecha show offers something besides the action then I'll like it. |
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Clebardman said: Gator said: "The guy with the better robot wins" simply doesn't appeal to me. It's like watching formula 1. This is soooo far from the truth, except if you're watching exclusively shitty mecha shows Oo. I don't think people consider Code Geass to be a shitty mecha. |
romagia said: At first i was too pretty reluctant with mecha, but eventually i grew to like the genre, after watching Geass, Eva and RahXephon (went into them blind without knowing about the mecha elements) I must say I wasn't particularly impressed by RahXephon. It's mostly a huge harem, with cool mecha designs that allow some really, really cheap (read lazy) animation. When I think that it came out 15 years after Patlabor... urg. |
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Gator said: I don't think people consider Code Geass to be a shitty mecha. Code Geass is probably the shittest example of a mecha show there is. As in, mechas are hardly a central aspect to the show. |
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katsaroulhs said: Honestly though, aside from NGE and MAYBE Lagan, most mechas I know of are basically this. Did you have something else in mind? Currently watching Mobile Police Patlabor. I still have the movies, and Garasaki (seems like a decent real robot show with some bullshit mysticism slapped over it) after that. I'll probably take a break from Mecha afterwards. I could argue that FLCL doesn't fall in the "best robot wins" category either, but FLCL is fucked up, let's not talk about that one. |
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romagia said: If you didn't grew up with mecha it can be hard to get into... I didn't grow up watching mecha, but I liked it after I watched it for the first time. I like Aldnoah.Zero(despite the second season being pretty shitty) and the Saijaku Muhai no Bahamut LN. But I'm a person who can appreciate all genres, except pure comedy(I don't like comedy), so that might be why mecha wasn't a trouble for me... |
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Clebardman said: katsaroulhs said: Honestly though, aside from NGE and MAYBE Lagan, most mechas I know of are basically this. Did you have something else in mind? Currently watching Mobile Police Patlabor. I still have the movies, and Garasaki after that. i'll probably take a break from Mecha afterwards. I could argue that FLCL doesn't fall in the "best robot wins" category either, but FLCL is fucked up, let's not talk about that one. FLCL was pure awesomeness, and yeah, I do not think it is a typical mecha. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
Nymphias said: Gator said: I don't think people consider Code Geass to be a shitty mecha. Code Geass is probably the shittest example of a mecha show there is. As in, mechas are hardly a central aspect to the show. I don't think there is any way to measure "how much mecha" there is in a show. Its genre is mecha and the fighting is done by mecha, I don't know what more you can ask for. |
| Just want to say that I like mecha since I'm like 10 yo (Escaflowne and NGE mostly at that time) and Code Geass looks terribly unnapealing as a mecha show. |
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| I havent seen enough Mecha anime to hate it, but I can say it doesn't really appeals to me and I feel the majority starts with the same premise "A guy who never piloted a robot, somehow they make him pilot for whatever reason, he gets a suddenly mission, (the setting is always the same too, humans live in a portion of a meteor or a enourmos space station or something and the're ugly monsters that we need to destroy) the MC gets in the robot and he knows how to pilot that shit perfectly and yeah" right now im watching shidonia no kishi and so far the first two episodes reminds me of Macross Frontier (about the MC, there's not cool idol songs in sidonia, sadly) Im not saying ALL mecha shows are like that, but the little I've seen are pretty similar to that xd |
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| I liked NGE tho .Does that count as a proper mecha ? Reminds me how I need to re watch that movie . |
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katsaroulhs said: Eh, mecha suffers from "good guys always win" just like every other battle oriented series. But there are some series labeled mecha that are not heavy on action like the FMP series, Gargantia, and maybe M3. Honestly though, aside from NGE and MAYBE Lagan, most mechas I know of are basically this. Did you have something else in mind? BTW, by "mecha" I don't mean every mecha. I do not consider power suits or humans transforming into some kind of (not fucking giant) robot Mecha. For example, I do not consider Code Geass a typical mecha, like Gundam. And those where enemies are mostly non-mechanical, like Eva, RahXephon, Knights of Sidonia, Cross Ange, Magic Knight Rayearth, and much of the Aquarion series. Do you even mecha? I haven't watched Gundam, but i believe in some entries the mechas are just like in Code Geass.. |
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romagia said: katsaroulhs said: Eh, mecha suffers from "good guys always win" just like every other battle oriented series. But there are some series labeled mecha that are not heavy on action like the FMP series, Gargantia, and maybe M3. Honestly though, aside from NGE and MAYBE Lagan, most mechas I know of are basically this. Did you have something else in mind? BTW, by "mecha" I don't mean every mecha. I do not consider power suits or humans transforming into some kind of (not fucking giant) robot Mecha. For example, I do not consider Code Geass a typical mecha, like Gundam. And those where enemies are mostly non-mechanical, like Eva, RahXephon, Knights of Sidonia, Cross Ange, Magic Knight Rayearth, and much of the Aquarion series. Do you even mecha? I haven't watched Gundam, but i believe in some entries the mechas are just like in Code Geass.. From what I can remember Code Geass doesn;t have the same fell and style as Gundam regarding Mecha. Might be wrong. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
HiatusXHiatus said: mecha? is that spelled shounen? we don't knowBecause mecha are the most childish things to watch. |
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Nymphias said: Because it's the polar opposite of moe. THE polar opposite. You couldn't be more wrong. Mecha and moe are one.  |
Nymphias said: Gator said: I don't think there is any way to measure "how much mecha" there is in a show. Its genre is mecha and the fighting is done by mecha, I don't know what more you can ask for. I started explaining, but I couldn't be fucked atm. I'm going to do a shitty scale just for giggles, maybe it'll be helpful lol. "How much mecha in:" -Kill la Kill : 1/10 -FLCL: 3/10 -NGE: 5/10 -Mobile Police Patlabor: 8/10 -Gurren Lagann: 10/10 |
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Nymphias said: I started explaining, but I couldn't be fucked atm. Eeeeh okay? I don't know what the problem is but this sounds like I don't even want to know Oo Clebardman said: I'm going to do a shitty scale just for giggles, maybe it'll be helpful lol. "How much mecha in:" -Kill la Kill : 1/10 -FLCL: 3/10 -NGE: 5/10 -Mobile Police Patlabor: 8/10 -Gurren Lagann: 10/10 So mechas are supposed to throw galaxies at each other and magically grow drills out of their asses? |
| There aren't that much good mecha coming out lately. I hear the older titles are pretty good, but from the ones I've seen this year, they're pretty ehh. |
Gator said: Nymphias said: I started explaining, but I couldn't be fucked atm. Eeeeh okay? I don't know what the problem is but this sounds like I don't even want to know Oo There isn't a problem, I just couldn't think of a way to explain it without it dragging on a bit too much. In short, it relates to the extent to which the battle sequences involve particular story events, and character relationships besides actual intricate mecha combat. Can't nutshell it better than that. |
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Gator said: Clebardman said: I'm going to do a shitty scale just for giggles, maybe it'll be helpful lol. "How much mecha in:" -Kill la Kill : 1/10 -FLCL: 3/10 -NGE: 5/10 -Mobile Police Patlabor: 8/10 -Gurren Lagann: 10/10 So mechas are supposed to throw galaxies at each other and magically grow drills out of their asses? Since Gunbuster, yeah. Are you knew to the medium or? that's why Gurren Lagann is a super robot and Gundams are real robot shows. |
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| because ppl just couldn't hold all the mechas greatness. add the fact that mechas involve throughout research on machinery, which belongs usually to nerds |
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Nymphias said: There isn't a problem, I just couldn't think of a way to explain it without it dragging on a bit too much. In short, it relates to the extent to which the battle sequences involve particular story events, and character relationships besides actual intricate mecha combat. Can't nutshell it better than that. I still don't see the problem with Code Geass, there are a lot of battle sequences and character relationships and mecha are fighting mecha. Clebardman said: Since Gunbuster, yeah. Are you knew to the medium or? that's why Gurren Lagann is a super robot and Gundams are real robot shows. So only Super Robot shows get a 10/10 from you or who am I to understand your scale? |
Gator said: Nymphias said: Code Geass is probably the shittest example of a mecha show there is. As in, mechas are hardly a central aspect to the show. I don't think there is any way to measure "how much mecha" there is in a show. Its genre is mecha and the fighting is done by mecha, I don't know what more you can ask for. There is a definite difference between a power suit, some kind of biological robot thing, and a huge Robot with rocket launchers and machineguns. All are mecha, yes, but clearly on a different spectrum. |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
katsaroulhs said: Gator said: I don't think there is any way to measure "how much mecha" there is in a show. Its genre is mecha and the fighting is done by mecha, I don't know what more you can ask for. There is a definite difference between a power suit, some kind of biological robot thing, and a huge Robot with rocket launchers and machineguns. All are mecha, yes, but clearly on a different spectrum. From your example I'd actually only consider the last one to be mecha, though I don't even understand what you mean by the 2nd one xD Clebardman said: @Gator ? I listed only super robot shows except Patlabor anyway, because I don't watch that much real robots, not a fan of military settings. pretty sure most Gundams are between 7 and 10 on the mecha scale. Oh okay, I only know NGE and TTGL from your list so I wouldn't know about these other shows. |
Gator said: From your example I'd actually only consider the last one to be mecha, though I don't even understand what you mean by the 2nd one xD He means Neon Genesis Evangelion.. |
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Clebardman said: He means Neon Genesis Evangelion.. Okay I got confused by "biological robot thing", I'd consider that mecha too then. |
| Seems like misconceptions based on a small pool of shows is the leading cause. |
| did all that things started with all the political stuff which was 2deep4them? |
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| This is rather interesting because it's something I've seen a lot and that people saying it has seen very few or even not a single mecha show. I mean they take the concept (guys using robots) and maybe some previous vague experience with a rather bad mecha show (there were a shit load of mediocre ones like any other genre) and then overgeneralize over the whole thing. Good mechas I've watched so far: Gunbuster Patlabor NGE {Didn't include other shows tagged as mecha because they don't feel like it} Planning to watch more of them, and obviously get into Gundam and Macross soon. Big franchises with both some promising and other really bad-looking titles on them. |
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Nymphias said: Because it's the polar opposite of moe. THE polar opposite. A lot of people value that here, myself included. Mecha doesn't interest me, but I don't necessarily think that all shows that use mechas as a central aspect are inherently 'bad' as a result of it; it's just doesn't suit my tastes. Polar opposite? Have you watched Symphogear or Macross? Gator said: "The guy with the better robot wins" simply doesn't appeal to me. It's like watching formula 1. Lol what? That literally never happens. Ever. |
Gator said: katsaroulhs said: There is a definite difference between a power suit, some kind of biological robot thing, and a huge Robot with rocket launchers and machineguns. All are mecha, yes, but clearly on a different spectrum. From your example I'd actually only consider the last one to be mecha, though I don't even understand what you mean by the 2nd one xD Clebardman said: @Gator ? I listed only super robot shows except Patlabor anyway, because I don't watch that much real robots, not a fan of military settings. pretty sure most Gundams are between 7 and 10 on the mecha scale. Oh okay, I only know NGE and TTGL from your list so I wouldn't know about these other shows. The EVAs from NGE. They are not "robots". |
Seiya0890 said: But its still disgusting from my point of view, and from the word's point of view, therefore its disgusting. Wise words. |
yashasvi12345 said: some people are stupid, you should know this by now.There seems to be a lot of hate for mecha on Mal.Why do people hate mecha? |
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HiatusXHiatus said: Please go watch some of the Gundam UC series, you will change your mind immediately.Because mecha are the most childish things to watch. |
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Major123 said: HiatusXHiatus said: Please go watch some of the Gundam UC series, you will change your mind immediately.Because mecha are the most childish things to watch. He saw 3 mechas (and rated them high), just leave him alone, he's probably baiting. |
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Clebardman said: Major123 said: Please go watch some of the Gundam UC series, you will change your mind immediately. He saw 3 mechas (and rated them high), just leave him alone, he's probably baiting. What are those three, is it code geass? |
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HiatusXHiatus said: Clebardman said: He saw 3 mechas (and rated them high), just leave him alone, he's probably baiting. What are those three, is it code geass? CG, TTGL and the first Rebuild. I didn't notice any other mecha but it's not like I know them all, I might have missed something. |
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| because they are not robots yashasvi12345 said: There seems to be a lot of hate for mecha on Mal.Why do people hate mecha? because they are not robots |
| I dont even think mecha is the most hated thing on MAL, I feel like Ecchi/Harem and school settings get waaay more hate. I personally don't really hate mecha,its just something that doesnt appeal to me. Most mechas do have a similar kind of story(weak boy gets the best mecha and then has to fight in some war),that isnt too interesting imo. But I am actually fine with mecha,when a show has more than action in it. Like Robotics;Notes or Suisei no Gargantia. |
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