| Why do people always have to complain about fanservice? I don't se whats wrong with a lot of panty shots and big boobs (unless you find them disgusting/ugly for some odd reason). If you think a show lacks other things such as a good plot / seriousness, then complain about those things instead -.- Your thoughts? |
| i honestly don't know |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
| Another thread complaining about people complaining about fanservice. |
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| >Starts anime with serious plot, gives people impression of perfect anime. >Anime introduces moe/harem/fanservice any shit after certain X episodes. |
- I've always... always been watching you... This whole time... Because you were there... That's why I was able to try hard. So you could have some balance! So you wouldn't treat me like a kid! So you would see me as an actual girl! Even while you were gone... You were right here! You were right here in my heart! |
| It's out of place, it serves no purpose, it waste time and it usually objectifies people. |
| Nothing |
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| The fans they service is usually not me. |
| What's wrong with people complaining about things they don't like in a medium on a forum about discussing that medium? |
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TallonKarrde23 said: that then in turns complains about that forum discussing that medium discussing that forum discussing that medium discussing. and so on and so on hay guy we got a circle :D What's wrong with people complaining about things they don't like in a medium on a forum about discussing that medium? the problem people have is when some one who has not even giving said show/what ever a fair chance because oh no slight nudity or underwear it must be bad even though it has a good plot. ya that starts getting old fast |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
| Nothing is particularily wrong with it, but it often serves very little purpose; at least in terms of advancing the plot or character development. |
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| Fanservice, which is not to be confused with characters which are promiscuous in canon, dispels dramatic tension and threatens suspension of disbelief by introducing superfluous details which are plot-breaking and character-breaking; it exists not to improve the story, but to take time away from the story to pander to the small segment of fans who find immature sexual innuendos stimulating. |
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Vanisher said: It's out of place, it serves no purpose, it waste time and it usually objectifies people. /thread If we're talking about sexual fanservice that is. Moe service is another thing. I usually don't mind that/find it appealing unless it gets out of hand. |
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| Because it can ruin the show sometimes. The artists focus too much on what the fans want and not what the artists them selves want. I recently heard about the fairy tail chapter where it was a lot of bs and girls in bikinis. I remember watching that high school of the dead special. I was like, dude, If I want to watch softcore porn, I'll go on pornhub or something. |
ElectricgroovesOct 15, 2013 2:23 AM
elite-sama said: Fanservice, which is not to be confused with characters which are promiscuous in canon, dispels dramatic tension and threatens suspension of disbelief by introducing superfluous details which are plot-breaking and character-breaking; it exists not to improve the story, but to take time away from the story to pander to the small segment of fans who find immature sexual innuendos stimulating. In terms of a serious story or series, pretty much this. Wanna know the best fanservice? A masterfully crafted plot, rich world building, and incredible characters + development. Not to say I have a problem with fanservice (sex appeal type) when used in moderation, but if used too much or in a series where it's out of context, it's pretty much saying "Hey look how desperate we are, trying too hard for DVD/BD sales." |
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| Too much of a good thing becomes a bad thing. Or something like that. |
| Deconstruction ≠ Darker & Edgier Trope ≠ Cliché (Face it, nothing is completely original. Can't make something from nothing so to say.). Fanservice ≠ Ecchi (Though ecchi can please the fans!) Popular ≠ Sucks... maybe Seinen = K-ON! Shounen, Shoujo, Seinen and Josei are demographics. Anime/Manga = Japanese Cartoons! Deal with it. Support Movember. Raise awareness of men's health issues. Put a mustache on your avatars or something... |
| I don't mind fan service, some people complain that it shows unrealistic themes and exploits women or men. THIS IS ANIME , NOT REAL LIFE! People ARE pretty much perfect in anime and manga thats why we are so envious or lusty for them. AS AC CONCLUSION, ILY FAN SERVICE! |
| I have no problem with blatant fanservice in case of ecchi shows, coz they are made for people wanting to see boobs and panty flashes. But , in shows where there is actually a good plot to boot, unnecessary fanservice hinders the potential of the show, like in Highschool of the dead.. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
shattereddreamzz said: Are you contradicting yourself? HOTD was ecchi in the first place...I have no problem with blatant fanservice in case of ecchi shows, coz they are made for people wanting to see boobs and panty flashes. But , in shows where there is actually a good plot to boot, unnecessary fanservice hinders the potential of the show, like in Highschool of the dead.. |
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PrimeX said: shattereddreamzz said: Are you contradicting yourself? HOTD was ecchi in the first place...I have no problem with blatant fanservice in case of ecchi shows, coz they are made for people wanting to see boobs and panty flashes. But , in shows where there is actually a good plot to boot, unnecessary fanservice hinders the potential of the show, like in Highschool of the dead.. yeah, it would have been much better without the ecchi stuff, that's what i meant.. |
Kagami_Hiiragi said: Idc if you think its weird, I have a life and friends and an income of money. |
shattereddreamzz said: okay.PrimeX said: shattereddreamzz said: Are you contradicting yourself? HOTD was ecchi in the first place...I have no problem with blatant fanservice in case of ecchi shows, coz they are made for people wanting to see boobs and panty flashes. But , in shows where there is actually a good plot to boot, unnecessary fanservice hinders the potential of the show, like in Highschool of the dead.. yeah, it would have been much better without the ecchi stuff, that's what i meant.. |
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| It's already been said a few times, but like anything it depends on if it's needlessly excessive and - more importantly - if it's out of place. For example, I loved Gargantia, but there's an episode that has a maybe 4 minute long scene of very focused on fanservice of the three young girl characters dressed in almost nothing doing an extremely slutty dance for the men of the ship (with random zoomed in shots of certain places on their body thrown in as well). The whole context of the situation (mostly drunken middle aged and old men were watching girls in their early teens near-naked doing rather erotic belly dancing and lewd posing) bothered me - and the whole scene in general felt extremely out of place and unwarranted. It didn't ruin my overall enjoyment of the show, but it did have a genuinely negative impact of my full experience, especially in that episode. Not to mention it made me worry about how young girls are treated on the ship and lead to a whole line of things I really didn't want to consider. The point is, it was extremely out of place and just felt thrown in. That is a case of bad fanservice being shoved in out of nowhere into places it really doesn't belong. The same can be said about anything else. If "it"'s out of place, shoved in and unfitting, or excessive in a series not entirely dedicated to whatever 'it' is, then it's usually not a good thing. |
TallonKarrde23Oct 15, 2013 3:48 AM
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| Honestly can't see anything wrong with it, I have some animes I like to watch that have fanservice and maybe even to mutch in some cases. Though these are also mixed with alot of humor. I can see some people maybe see it as a negative thing but thats probably just because it can be just to mutch at some moments. That could be a reason. But the most stuff Im ok with. |
| Depends what kind of anime the makers are trying to produce. If it's a serious anime where it suddenly gets fan service, it loses it's seriousness and just becomes a failure. In other words rubbish. Light hearted anime with genres such as eechi, romcom will be perfectly acceptable with me |
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| For starters it never was and never will be hot so the whole purpose of it is completely null. Its pandering of the lowest common denominator in anime and when used in something that had potential would just kill its chances to be taken seriously, and my dislike of it only grows as i see shows not even trying to tell a plot throw in a bunch of ecchi shit and suddenly be able to break even as a result I'm not saying anime is completely cut off from making sexual jokes, cause when some anime have tried in the past they managed to make it hilarious without seeming like pandering but rather they were legitimately using it for a use of comedy like gintama(essentially no fan service but gets perverted as hell) and especially golden boy. |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| In some cases I do think it's wrong. For example when a epic battle brakes out and then they distract you with fan service, I want to enjoy the battle, not get horny. Fanservice in comedy/Romance I think is totally fine |
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| To me it ruins the atmosphere and it just makes it harder to take the anime seriously - some good moments were killed in Code Geass due to unnecessary fanservice. As I'm asexual obviously I'm not going to enjoy it though, and the majority of anime watchers are heterosexual males so it doesn't surprise me that it exists. |
| @skuka Like Code geass had no fan service OT: Nothing wrong with fan service. In fact if you don't like Chicken and watermelon fan service there is something wrong with you man, there is something wrong with you!!! |
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Monzero said: Fanservice in comedy/Romance I think is totally fine Actually, no it's not. |
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| I do not find panty shots attractive. Nor do I find overly large breasts attractive. Fanservice irritates me because it detracts and distracts from the story without being a part of it. |
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Shiratori99 said: Monzero said: Fanservice in comedy/Romance I think is totally fine Actually, no it's not. Shiratori99 said: Monzero said: Fanservice in comedy/Romance I think is totally fine Actually, no it's not. It's my personal opinion, I still preffer Romance without fanservice but, I do not really hate it. |
MonzeroOct 15, 2013 10:56 PM
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| Fanservice is a problem when it's out of place in a story, doesn't ease itself when the story becomes serious, or pushes the story away to be rushed. Koihime Musou is out of whack for its run and the fanservice doesn't ruin it. Vividred Operation stops its fanservice midway when the story becomes serious. Da Capo III is harmless but becomes several magnitudes worse when it tries to tell a last-minute story when it was better off showing tits and ass ala Koihime Musou. Negima!'s fanservice tries to lighten the mood during serious moments but also often becomes a distraction. And Highschool of the Dead's fanservice clashes with the survival horror mood the show tries to make. /Pretentious Fanservice Scholar |
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| It's quite awkward when I watched fanservice scenes together with friends. I was like "...." |
anders160196 said: It's politically correct.Why do people always have to complain about fanservice? |
| Never forget, that if you post a topic, you're not allowed to post in it yourself, by order of MAL administration. |
| What's wrong with fan service? A) Nothing if it's serving you. B) Everything if it's not serving you. |
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| Some people apparently can't just enjoy the simple things in life. |
| "Laws exist only for those who cannot live without clinging onto them." -Souske Aizen "Bleach"  |
TallonKarrde23 said: I disliked Gargantia extremely, but that scene was perhaps one of the more important ones: it was used to convey Ledo's growing attachment to Amy since he otherwise displays a total lack of interest. It was, in the contrived manner of the show's narrative, to draw the connection between the ending fight scene with the rest of the show, because without a little booty in the minds of our favorite directors (and perhaps the audience as well), it would make no sense for our protagonist to go out of character and do what he did. Like they say, behind every conflict is a woman 12 year old looking little girl.For example, I loved Gargantia, but there's an episode that has a maybe 4 minute long scene of very focused on fanservice of the three young girl characters dressed in almost nothing doing an extremely slutty dance for the men of the ship (with random zoomed in shots of certain places on their body thrown in as well). The whole context of the situation (mostly drunken middle aged and old men were watching girls in their early teens near-naked doing rather erotic belly dancing and lewd posing) bothered me - and the whole scene in general felt extremely out of place and unwarranted. |
katsucatsOct 15, 2013 10:13 PM
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anders160196 said: Why do people always have to complain about fanservice? I don't se whats wrong with a lot of panty shots and big boobs (unless you find them disgusting/ugly for some odd reason). If you think a show lacks other things such as a good plot / seriousness, then complain about those things instead -.- Your thoughts? I wonder how your opinion would change after watching Seikon no Qwaser. If you got a lactation fetish, then probably not at all... |
In sterquiliniis invenitur. |
Vanisher said: It's out of place, it serves no purpose, it waste time and it usually objectifies people. |
| For me: - Ruins the mood - Ruins the character - Disturbs me - No purpose |
mayukachan said: For me: - Ruins the mood - Ruins the character - Disturbs me - No purpose +1 |
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| I very much hate it. |
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