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Feb 14, 2013 10:07 PM

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bloggbigg said:
As for the tragic death (which may not be- longshot she survives):
I won't mention the bicycle exercise- which she could have saved herself with. (You're on your back, you prop up your waist with your arms- not such a stretch when you realize physical therapy likely included this )
I assumed that the legs had GPS, but why Mizune just gave up is a mystery more than Kai's slow reaction/cluelessness. No way she could have seen that rope near the cliff and not thought "If I can just grab that". Nope "I must die alone, Kai you bastard (POW)" or even "drag me to that tree." (grabbing anything overhead and lifting wouldn't work somehow). Ok- happened too fast- whatever.
I definitely can't mention any foresight- like the 'seat belt knife' (which would have worked here).

The story is what it is.
To address the point of 'nit-picking' (other posters)- If harry potter ended with... I dunno, Santa Claus joining the fight against Slytherin, people would be so 'wtf'- because the level of writing suggested reasonable evolutions for story elements, not crazy 'this must happen' shoehorning to get plot points checked off. (Though I'm sure it would still be entertaining & people would criticize anyone not agreeing Santa was a natural to join in the fight).

She had to die. Simple. Fine. Whatever. Maybe... have them already at the edge? Make it happen too fast to react? Stay within the framework of 'clever people' we've learned to respect so no one can wonder 'why'- He unlocks reports, she answers mysteries. Neither can undo straps- which are usually velcro. Just sayin'. That's not exactly nitpicking- that's disappointment.

Kai's been unearthing and trying to make sense of the conspiracy sense the beginning. Mizune had some clue, and saw the previous crisis & robot parade and must have an idea of being 'at risk'. Apparently the companies don't do 'recalls' or 'service upgrades' in this world (because 'handicapped people walking to their deaths' is both forgivable and expected?)- though I dunno- an 'emergency shutdown' is way unreasonable thing to expect when people who don't want to die stop buying your product because- I dunno- it just may kill them...

Anyway- all that aside- Kai thinking conspiracy x hours a day, finding tangible evidence of genius & 'not crazy' (real AI, installations, and a 'cryogenically' (not- but something) girl, etc)- maybe he's got no right to actually be surprised when a girl wearing listed 'at risk tech' does crap that was mentioned in other crap he worked hard to unearth- but he was- whatever... lame.
I can go with that.

Bottom line- It just could have been better-- not because I can think of ways (blah blah)- just because (until now), it mostly has been.

The point is that the HUG is clearly being hacked. Some of the HUG “malfunctioning” incidents are mentioned in the VN, in one case the HUG killed its owner and rescuer by performing some dangerous, inhuman gymnastics, probably breaking some limbs or necks. So if you own a HUG and also being targeted, there will be no escape. Even if Kai manages to take that HUG off Mizuka, it can still kick them to death with its sheer force. Yes, it is said that these HUGs can make a disabled to easily run a 100m world record. There’s also a variety called the HUG Spark for robotics fighting tournaments. Creepy stuff.

And about all these HUG incidents, why are there no safety measures for a renowned company like Exoskeleton, remember that it is part of the Committee of 300, as indicated in one of Kimijima’s report. It’s conspiracy!
Feb 14, 2013 11:02 PM

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It's really getting intense now, I guess. The scene itself (at the end) was amazing, but that doesn't go for the way things ended up.
5/5.

Feb 16, 2013 1:02 PM

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Well if someone rly hacked that thing and programmed to walk her off the cliff.....
The spine break scene proved how strong is that thing already so pushing her off to the side or anything would cause more dmg to her body b4 she die
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Feb 17, 2013 9:01 AM

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Hmm I'm sure Subaru would have been able to move out the way if a large robot was slowly about to fall on him. Very sad scene with Mizuka. Not sure why Kai couldn't have tried smashing the control panel or something else but whatever. I was disturbed by the spine cracking scene.
Feb 18, 2013 12:24 AM

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That scene where GunPro2 fell down due to strong winds. I hope Subaru is alright. Sad to see Mizuka is dead due to that machine somewhat went berserk on it's own or i highly think it's someone is controlling it. Yeah it's depressing watching this episode. GunPro2 launch was great in this episode i loved the music playing behind. This is getting more intense and interesting.
Feb 18, 2013 11:20 AM

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I'm actually really glad I was a week and a half behind on this show because if I couldn't watch the next one after what just happened to Mizuka and Subaru....

Sometimes this show just wants to make you cry!
Feb 27, 2013 9:48 AM

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Just thought this was kind of funny.

Soon they'll start breaking peoples backs and forcing them to fall to their deaths!


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Mar 5, 2013 4:55 AM

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eminagnam said:
Good they finally moved their robot. The interaction between Kai and Shizuka was thrilling. I felt he was dumb and slow when he didn't quickly try to stop Shizuka. (He tried later though.) And lol@his back suplex though she soon stood up and walked again. (If it had been Gintama, blood would've shot out of her head like a fountain and she would've fainted.) Overall this anime is light-hearted yet serious at the same time. I like it.


Mizuka, you mean.

I was so horrified after seeing her fall down... this was the most interesting episode. Moving Gunvarrel prototype, AR Gunvarrel, falling robot and ... Mizuka's death.

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Mar 11, 2013 9:45 PM

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HOLY SHIT!

I definitely did not see that coming!

This is huge, wow....I'm just speechless..
Mar 14, 2013 11:46 AM

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Oh shit.

I mean it. This episode contained drama contained to every other one. It was indeed traumatizing to watch Mizuka's death, but I feel even worse for Subaru. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! >.<

Btw, I at this point I think that Kai is retarded. He's not even bright. First, it took him to realize that he should go to help Mizuka. Second, he didn't even try to disbalance Mizuka striking her from her right - this way she even wouldn't be able to get up on her feet again imo.
Also, I hope someone realizes that Misaki is probably behind this especially because she gave Mizuka these legs.

Subaru pls be okay!
Mar 17, 2013 1:12 PM

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so sad ;// I really like Mizuka
Mar 29, 2013 1:03 PM

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I remember myself saying that this show needs more pain and suffering, but now I'm not so sure about that. This was really painful... poor Mizuka-san.

As for Subaru, I don't like him this much. In fact, better to see something happened to him, than to one of the girls or that ojiichan
Apr 28, 2013 4:44 AM

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Can anyone please tell me the name of the soundtrack that plays from 5:40 to 8:48?
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Apr 29, 2013 2:36 PM
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alien321 said:
It is impossible to get up from that position in that way, the center of gravity is wrong, you slip, you should have your feet anchored.
A Anime ruined


unless the legs are significantly heavy and the balanced motion has been programmed as so. still that was retarded. all he had to do was take her waist on his shoulder or just have her grip onto something. plenty of time. lame excuse to spill blood. this is a turning point for me as well :( reminds me of code geass when princess turns mad.
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mrbryce said:
that was retarded. all he had to do was take her waist on his shoulder or just have her grip onto something. plenty of time. lame excuse to spill blood.

In fact Kai succeeded at stopping her from falling, at first. The problem is that later that thing Mizuka-san wears broke her back and she decided she doesn't wants to live.
May 18, 2013 9:01 AM

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No fucking way! Deaths and even possible two? DAMN! Why? They were so pleasant but damn such dramatic concept! Who's behind those calls anyway, I'm sure it has to do something with what happened!

They finally finished the robot but what now, what happened to that? But to actually have Mizuka being killed is rather sad she was a great supporting character!
Jun 7, 2013 9:42 PM
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Jun 8, 2013 4:37 AM

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What the F--!? That was unexpected.
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Jun 8, 2013 4:38 AM
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OTAKUADDICT said:
What the F--!? That was unexpected.
Unfortunately this episode is the only good thing about the anime.
Jun 11, 2013 8:12 PM

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Mizuka ;-;
Jun 13, 2013 9:50 AM

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... Production I.G never failed me

Jul 16, 2013 3:09 AM
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Give me a break! Seriously, I was fine with some service droids causing trouble, but this... There's no way he wouldn't have been able to stop it... NO... WAY!... You would have to go full blown retard to actually believe this sh*t... bye bye willing suspension of disbelief :(
Jul 21, 2013 11:42 AM

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Well Mizuka's death was more impactful than I would have thought it would be for me. Mostly because of Kai's reaction a character that is not apathetic per se, but doesn't show much emotion. That being said....those exoskeleton legs seem....a bit more powerful than needed.

Jul 21, 2013 9:08 PM

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There was absolutely no need for her to die. He could have lifted her onto his shoulder or she could have grabbed the railing and held on or he could have just kept knocking her down while sending a message to Misa so that she could fix it remotely or some other idea that didn't occur to me in less than five seconds of thinking :/

Seriously, I'm not even sure I want to finish the series if this is what its writers think good drama looks like :/
Oct 4, 2013 6:38 AM

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5/5

Even if the episode is a little surreal in the end, the rest is very nice. Very good setting in the narrative, in a tone dramatic reading at the beginning and one in the second half. Technically it was well done, I did not notice mistakes whatsoever. Shame to see Mizu-san out of the picture, there's never been a real time that has deepened his knowledge, they could take out Mitchi instead! XD
Oct 7, 2013 8:43 PM

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getting serious now...

I predict Subaru will not die, Mizuka also might survive

yup maybe the best way is to lift her out of touch with the ground but I think Kai alone not able to do that without further injuring Mizuka
Nov 18, 2013 4:16 AM

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finally something big happened to keep me awake...

not bad so far but not great either...
Dec 29, 2013 11:57 AM

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That was TOTALLY unexpected!! Those robotic legs walked her right off the cliff? I can't help but wonder if the outcome would have been different if Kai would have changed the direction that she was walking in.

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Jan 3, 2014 2:30 AM

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Holy......Fucking......Shit..........I don't know what to think now.......FUCK!!!
Feb 12, 2014 9:09 PM

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What the guy above me said...basically.


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Feb 22, 2014 4:54 PM

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Dammit
You guys shed tears too right
Mar 24, 2014 6:14 PM

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niaxato said:
It's really starting to hit the fan now. Awesome episode. Mizuka's death was definitely hard to watch and then to top it off, she turns to Kai and tells him to thank Misa for the legs and this.

Wonder if by "this" she means that Misa is the one who killed her?


When I first saw this anime, I think it was some kind of kid's anime or something. Then I started to watch it and I thought it was alright, it was still happy-go-lucky though with a plot about world domination. Then, all of a sudden it turns into a serious anime where people are starting to get killed. It's kinda funny how it went to happy to dark.

It's a shame that Mizuka didn't say anything to him before she died to really explain why he shouldn't go looking into the records. Well, knowing now that Misa is apart of the 300 who are trying to destroy the earth, I'm sure that she is the one who killed Mizuka.
Apr 11, 2014 3:02 PM

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i kinda liked Mizuka ... especially her face when kai had to eat those "buns" -shudders-

plus she was kinda cute and considering her back story seemed a horrible way for her to die.

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Jul 31, 2014 4:12 PM

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Oh god, I didn't expect that ending to happen the way it did...
Is it not gonna show what happened with the robot falling on Subaru?
Sep 8, 2014 4:57 AM

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Holy shit that was amazing! About freaking time shit went down.
Jan 9, 2015 11:47 AM

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Shit what a wasted tits!
I think Subaru was fine, Aki saved him with her slow-motion-syndrome. .
Jan 30, 2015 12:39 AM

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He could've saved her. Like forreal that was just dumb she could've grabbed onto the railing or something.
And then with the robot falling over that was just too much for me, everything bad happened too coincidently at the same time, felt way too forced.
Jun 30, 2015 5:28 PM

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WOW this episode. Subaru just stands there while watching the robot fall on top of him. Kai just stands there letting Mizuka's legs walk her to the ocean.
Aug 13, 2015 8:26 PM

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oh Lord i was a wreck in this one. when she started walking again i was literally shouting for him to charge ahead of her and run towards her. that way he could slam her on the ground and drag her away with her legs. it's just mindblowing how a moment could turn to chaos and tragedy so suddenly. i've never seen it happen so fast.

however...i was a bit annoyed that he didn't notice it firsthand. it was fairly obvious. if he noticed sooner it would have saved time, definitely.

but WHYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!! THE OTHER TWO EPISODES WERE NORMAL AS HECK AND YOU PULL THIS ON US. SERIOUSLY. that scream+reaction kai did was beyond too much for any soul.

(P.S. and COME ON. you don't even let her be washed away? you have to make it worse by that rock slab? that's just not cool...)

(P.P.S and SUBARU!!! what's going on here?!?!?)
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besides all that heaping mess, the part when furu's skirt was flying was hilarious tho!
Aug 24, 2015 3:31 AM
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god... what the hell she died ... something is up...i am so upset that she died oh,,, shizuka watching it was a terrifying experience :3 i know what kai felt even a little :3
Sep 19, 2015 8:22 AM

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eminagnam said:
I thought this too, welp she missed the water! My favorite ep as of yet.
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Jul 19, 2016 5:44 PM

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WHAT THE FUCK!?
Wait wait wait, this is going out of our hands!
What the fuck is going on with the Committee!? Why did they kill her!?
Oh god... that was so brutal... I even expected the mechanical legs to crush her legs or twist her more that they did... That was fucked up... Poor Kai... that last scream.
That and the giant robot falls on top of Subaru (really, it's very windy and you run next to a lets say 7 meters robot, wth man? That's bad weather! You should have aborted the test!). Also, before making a suplex and pushing the opposite direction, I would have rather tackled her down from the side. That would have been better, easier, and more effective. Also, not let her go! You know, legs are berserk!

Leaving aside that, the first text of the robot was amazing and inspiring.
When Aki was presenting herself as a 18 year student I couldn't help but compare her to


ANYWAY! Great episode, it got intense out of the sudden...

I started this anime thinking it was not gonna be as good as S;G, not even pretty good by itself but, I'm glad to see I was wrong, also the people who said I wasn't that good because it IS good. Not S;G good, but good!
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You sir, are totaly right.
As you, I do see all those inconsistencies but, for some reason, my brain is just assuming the plot needs those moments of retardedness for it to go certain direction, or tone.
You see, I watch the episode, while stuff happens I say "why? what's wrong with you? do something! Don't you see that's retarded" or stuff like that, but I quickly accept it to enjoy the show because that obviously happened for a reason, be that poor writing (which is bad), or bad directing, or just a plot device, or whatever reason.
The things that happened in this episode are necessary for the plot go the direction it wants, and others well, just pure retardedness like the LAG Kai had before realizing Mizuka was in danger.

Airi, in the other hand... I blame a rushed episode. One episode, too short. Two episodes, too long.
Jul 27, 2016 7:34 AM

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HDarkmantis said:

You sir, are totaly right.
As you, I do see all those inconsistencies but, for some reason, my brain is just assuming the plot needs those moments of retardedness for it to go certain direction, or tone.
You see, I watch the episode, while stuff happens I say "why? what's wrong with you? do something! Don't you see that's retarded" or stuff like that, but I quickly accept it to enjoy the show because that obviously happened for a reason, be that poor writing (which is bad), or bad directing, or just a plot device, or whatever reason.
The things that happened in this episode are necessary for the plot go the direction it wants, and others well, just pure retardedness like the LAG Kai had before realizing Mizuka was in danger.

Airi, in the other hand... I blame a rushed episode. One episode, too short. Two episodes, too long.


I have no problem with the idea of 'these things need to happen'
The problem is, 'good storytelling' builds on what came before.

So when characters are built up laboriously to have certain qualities- then are 'undermined' by changing or ignoring a key trait so a particular plot element can be introduced- it breaks the flow and trust & immersion in the story/world/writer.

It's not just characters. When:

Common sense or simple logic is ignored.
Critical secrets are intentionally withheld.
People 'freeze up' or 'fall down' conveniently.
'Coincidence' rescues characters to often.
Random convenient power emerges/upgrades as needed.

(All that 'deus ex machina' stuff in general)

Good writing is hard for a reason.
There are very few story types that forgive bad writing- and even those (like comedy) need a different kind of 'good writing'.

This series was a tragedy.
Not because anyone died- but because it had HUGE potential, and somewhere along the way, the writer just said 'Ah, screw it!' and started doing cheats, compromises and bullshit. That was the tragedy. This was really going to be something good and different- and the author was developing it well- until...

deadlines? editorial changes? production company requests? Total episode count decrease? Who knows? Maybe he just got lazy.

Anyway- normally this is anime converted from manga- or anime converted from a light novel- but this was a conversion from a visual novel- so I don't think the normal issues of release schedule deadlines applies. Also, the entire anime changes from here on- so if you expected...


I just know This went from 'looks good/recommend' to 'garbage/avoid'- and that seems like a bad thing to 'work at' and eventually 'accomplish' for a writer.
If you aren't watching Zetsuen no Tempest (Civilization Blaster), you should be. Brilliant writing with legit plot twists.

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Jul 27, 2016 9:56 AM

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bloggbigg said:

This series was a tragedy.
Not because anyone died- but because it had HUGE potential, and somewhere along the way, the writer just said 'Ah, screw it!' and started doing cheats, compromises and bullshit. That was the tragedy. This was really going to be something good and different- and the author was developing it well- until...

deadlines? editorial changes? production company requests? Total episode count decrease? Who knows? Maybe he just got lazy.

Anyway- normally this is anime converted from manga- or anime converted from a light novel- but this was a conversion from a visual novel- so I don't think the normal issues of release schedule deadlines applies. Also, the entire anime changes from here on- so if you expected...


I just know This went from 'looks good/recommend' to 'garbage/avoid'- and that seems like a bad thing to 'work at' and eventually 'accomplish' for a writer.


Yeah, I also saw that curve towards the end of the series.
I wonder if the Visual Novel is like that.

Till episode 14 there was a pressure by both the Kimijima reports and the Committee, but those maid robots, what kind of real threat they represented? I felt something was missing. Let alone the events after that, like a new arc that had nothing to do with previous.
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HDarkmantis said:

Yeah, I also saw that curve towards the end of the series.
I wonder if the Visual Novel is like that.

Till episode 14 there was a pressure by both the Kimijima reports and the Committee, but those maid robots, what kind of real threat they represented? I felt something was missing. Let alone the events after that, like a new arc that had nothing to do with previous.


If I had to guess, I'd say the total chapter/episode count was cut. It seems that when that happens, the author is notified & the gets (at best) 'a volume's worth' of chapters to 'wrap up'- So (depending on how 'far in' a volume they are at the time) I've seen dynamic changes 4-8 eps before the end- & often enough to kindof tell.

Authors have a particular end in mind, and they get to either:

A) 'cull & cram' to fit choice content as best they can,
B) shift the focus to make a new direction/semi-suspended ending, or
C) rewrite what the prior goal was to a new, more cliche, but easier/more achievable one.

I think we got a little of portions A, B & C (but mostly C). There are other possibilities of course- but I think A & C happen most often and are fairly easy to recognize. Of course writers can 'shift gears' to compensate for deadlines, managerial direction ('add fanservice', 'x character is popular- give them more story'), unwieldly plot elements (or simple laziness). In this case I can only guess- but it's a shame whatever the reason. I was super excited to see where this story was going to go, and encouraged by the initial careful (but slow) plotting and character development.

Then something happened.

Ah well...
If you aren't watching Zetsuen no Tempest (Civilization Blaster), you should be. Brilliant writing with legit plot twists.

Just finished blog entry 'Japanese Authors Take Heed' Series (JATH)! Entry 03: Proactive Villains, Reactionary Heroes'.
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Why the hell didn't Subaru take two steps to the side??

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Jan 22, 2017 7:35 AM

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Monopoles are really rare yet they can somehow keep them all to themselves, kinda odd.
Subaru just stood there with the robot falling to it's side, ... and I know we haven't seen him crushed yet but come on, you can clearly see it tipping over.
Mizuka dying was really sad and fcked up, Kaito couldn't do anything to help, I thought maybe he could push her to her side, but then again, the legs already showed us that they'll get up no matter what, crushing her spine a bit.

And I agree with most in the thread, it's weird seeing how the robot is just there after a few episodes, we barely saw them making it.

Still though, really enjoying the anime, but these small things do kind of annoy me.
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Wow that got so damn dark. The ending with Kai and Mizuka was a whirlwind. The "kogame kogame" shit genuinely sends a chill down my spine. And not much does in movies and TV. And even though I think the show could have spent a little more time on her. Mizuka's death elicited the strongest emotional response from me this show has managed. And by all that is holy, I will...strongly consider dropping this thing if Subaru's dead too. Kind of seems like he's not from the preview though. At this point I'm in too deep and have to know how it ends though. Regardless of how things shake out for Subaru. The Robotics Club has a bumpy road ahead now. And I'm looking forward to seeing it play out.
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Very nice episode, I home Subaru is alright somehow, but I'm really upset about that scene with Kai, I mean he could've saved Mizuku so easily, he just had to carry her somewhere else so that he had more time to pull of her machine..
I would've liked something more realistic for this scene because it felt like she died for nothing and Kai was useless, but well I haven't played the VN so I don't know..
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