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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ----------------------------------------  A lot of battles in this episode in the dark skies of nightfall. Oda seems to be unconscious since the events of the previous episode :(. This episode was overall alright, and that marriage "dream" was amusing to watch especially with so many loli as the guests. They almost kiss too! Oh well, I'm just glad she's awake now. ^_^ |
Stark700Sep 16, 2012 10:28 AM
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| Season 2!!! Now I really want to know what happened to Monkey. |
| Those deaths were unexpected for me. I'm starting to wonder if Hanzou and Matsunaga are just trying to look like bad guys but had something else planned that might help Nobuna in the long run. |
| Damn, not sure what to think of this. Was kind of expecting Sagara's death, but the way Nobuna handles it was a little bit of a surprise to me. I hope she turns around and makes the right decision. Revenge is an ugly thing, especially in a case like this. Shame on Hisahide for twisting Nobuna's mind like this. |
| Did they really die?>!?? |
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| Same not sure what to think of this. I don't really like Sagara's attitude of "I want to save everyone" he should know he can't since his played war games that people will die. I think Sagara is probably still alive and it was a plan set up by Hanzou and the spirit guy (forgot his name). The two of them probably wanted Sagara to realise that they just have to think his dead. It could have been an illusion by the spirit guy thats why they didn't find a body. I don't think Jubei is dead either when she fell it looked like the dark circle behind her was a pool so she could have survived. Can't really tell much from the preview either. Great episode though. If Sagara has survived then there probably is going to be a season 2. |
AlmazHiroSep 16, 2012 10:42 AM
christyu said: Yes indeed Yoshiharu is dead; you could see his his hand falling on a ground with splash. From the preview, it says that episode 12 will be the last episode. I guess this will help Nobuna to stop acting like a kid and be mature to be capable of uniting Japan. Although I want Yoshiharu to be alive, I don't want him to come back to life since something like that doesn't seem right in this type of anime Oh my god, So much respect for the studio to make the male heroine die!! It hasn't happened in forever!! 99 POINTS!!! But if he does survive then it will be lowered to 50 points... Although it wouldn't be so bad if there is a Season 2. |
DivisionGSep 16, 2012 10:46 AM
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DivisionG said: christyu said: Yes indeed Yoshiharu is dead; you could see his his hand falling on a ground with splash. From the preview, it says that episode 12 will be the last episode. I guess this will help Nobuna to stop acting like a kid and be mature to be capable of uniting Japan. Although I want Yoshiharu to be alive, I don't want him to come back to life since something like that doesn't seem right in this type of anime Oh my god, So much respect for the studio to make the male heroine die!! It hasn't happened in forever!! 99 POINTS!!! But if he does survive then it will be lowered to 50 points... Although it wouldn't be so bad if there is a Season 2. Killing the lead male is a very uncommon thing. I actually hope he stays that way though, it'd be better for Nobuna's character development. Oh and male heroine? |
| Sagara may be dead but chances are very slim, injured most likely from that illusion. That marriage dream was very nice but it turned into a nightmare fast with the possible death of Sagara. |
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| Oh well that escalated quickly ... Monkey is dead ... possibly real death though ... damn the scene when Nene cried for monkey :( ... next episode is the final one, doubt that monkey will comeback, cause his death is the main factor to help Nobuna conquers. |
| Everyone here forget about Zenki's transformation ability? Yup. Transformed into Yoshiharu and pretended to die to fool the enemy. As for Juubei though, her body seemed unharmed. |
| There's no way Yoshiharu is dead. Like darkwap said, it's most likely just part of Hanzou and the spirit guy's plan. I have no idea how they pulled it off, but he's definitely alive. Same with Juubei. You can't assume they're dead until it's actually confirmed 100%. No body = not confirmed. Also, this is still a comedy anime with tons of lolis. I don't see them killing off the male lead and ruining that. The comedy aspect and character dynamics would be ruined. My guess is Yoshiharu and Juubei will show up at the end of next week's last ep with glimpses of how they survived. |
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| so my guess with the phone was right but what good does it bring if they want to make us think sagara is dead.. there is no way this is the case otherwise this anime is as good as school days (and I mean it in a insulting way since I'm not a horror/thriller guy) |
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| No idea, LN has been translated on Bakatsuki, lol but I doubt it would leave a corpse after being blow up by a bomb. I hope that they will follow the light novel, or they just gonna create a new end when monkey is dead, and his death helps Nobuna unites the country ... This reminds me of Chrono Crusade, or even Air when main characters can die but their name still remain ... |
Takana_no_HanaSep 16, 2012 11:13 AM
| This is from Vol 4. Hope for season 2 too. Would love to see the battle of Anegawa. And more story about Azai and Nobukatsu |
| Of course Monkey won't die...your forgetting that this anime does not condone death on main characters, side characters and supporting. Only ones that do die are no names that aren't important...this is a fluff series and it will remain fluffy considering you have lolli's who can pretty much pawn an entire army |
| This was a really good episode, and a satisfying follow-up to last episode’s cliffhanger. The entire episode was rather tense, but was slightly broken up by the momentary light-hearted dream Oda had of her marriage to Sagara, although that too, quite suddenly, turned rather dark due to the medicine Hisahide administered to her. As for Sagara, the moment he died was quite surprising and seemingly bloody, but, despite all that, I tend to highly doubt either Sagara or Mitsuhide are dead, especially due the fact that their bodies haven't been found, which is typically a foreshadowing element towards their deaths being a temporary ruse. There's that, and the fact that male leads very rarely die in a show of this nature. Despite not particularly caring about or liking Mitsuhide that much, I have to admit that her final gesture to attacking the one who "killed" Sagara was a nice moment. Hisahide continues to be a thoroughly intriguing character, considering her supposedly conflicting actions. On one hand, her persuasion of Oda's will to fight and conquer was for the best, but that seemingly understandable and justifiable act was countered by how far she's willing to distort Oda's comparable good nature. It will be interesting to see the end result of all Hisahide's subtle persuasions, and how that will affect Oda's morality, whether it will allow her to grow stronger or lean needlessly to a brutality that Sagara had diminished considerably up to that point. Inuchiyo was excellent here, and the moment Nene was crying due to the loss of her "brother" was quite sad. The action sequences laid throughout were exciting and really well done. As always, they were considerably benefited by the superb direction and the rather impressive animation. Overall, Oda Nobuna continues to impress with it‘s story, characters, and historical drama, surprisingly establishing itself even further as one of the better, most consistent shows of the season, and I’m hoping that the last episode concludes events in a suitably exciting and satisfying manner. I’m really looking forward to said conclusion, since, judging by the preview, it looks set to provide an extensive amount of action and intriguing drama. |
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TensaiShonen said: Of course Monkey won't die...your forgetting that this anime does not condone death on main characters, side characters and supporting. Only ones that do die are no names that aren't important...this is a fluff series and it will remain fluffy considering you have lolli's who can pretty much pawn an entire army I'm not talking about anime, but with the Light Novel, you're wrong about this. :D Dont know if this will have season 2, but |
Asteriael said: I'm not talking about anime, but with the Light Novel, you're wrong about this. :D Dont know if this will have season 2, but hence the reason why I am saying this is a fluff series.... |
Asteriael said: This is from Vol 4. Hope for season 2 too. Would love to see the battle of Anegawa. And more story about Azai and Nobukatsu Oh... Well that's disappointing... Um... 50 points for the stunt I guess. |
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| It was obvious for the whole episode that "Monkey" survived lol. |
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DivisionG said: Asteriael said: This is from Vol 4. Hope for season 2 too. Would love to see the battle of Anegawa. And more story about Azai and Nobukatsu Oh... Well that's disappointing... Um... 50 points for the stunt I guess. For Division: |
| This episode reached my expectations , freaking amazing . But , I can't really imagine Monkey dead , he's a main character . Why do these series have 12 episodes ?????? Season 2 is required . |
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| This series in my opinion deserves more praise, i mean its not all fan service and stuff, and its pretty damn good, lolol i feel like emotionally connected to the characters (call me weird but thats the best way i can say it) and i hope the second season gets atleast 24 episodes, and can someone tell me where you guys are getting the Light Novel stuff? Bakatsugi only has volume 1 chapter 4 up so yeah it would be much appreciated ^^ |
i love them harem,comedy,romance,ecchi's see me around give me some reccomendations ^^ |
| People who have died in this episode, they died. But chances Yoshiharu dead is basically zero. I'm certain Hanzou and Zenki were plotting something. For example, smoke bomb + illusion. That will suffice. I've watched enough this kind of shows. For the leads: no corpse = no death. It's Gundam SEED rules. This applies to Juubei too btw. Juubei getting blown off the cliff was unexpected though. Hanzou can help her of course. Great episode anyway.
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Nasty001 said: 1 more 2 go and it'll be over. |
| this ep was freaking awesome... hope we get a second season of this anime |
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Liph said: this ep was freaking awesome... hope we get a second season of this anime i hope so too, haha but you know, the good anime's tend to never get that well deserved second season.. |
| i love them harem,comedy,romance,ecchi's see me around give me some reccomendations ^^ |
Trunkies said: Liph said: this ep was freaking awesome... hope we get a second season of this anime i hope so too, haha but you know, the good anime's tend to never get that well deserved second season.. sadly :/ |
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| I somehow think Sagara and Mitsuhide are still alive and to be honest i don't think it would have a bad influence on the anime. And Nobuna is right now she is pretty much destroying everything she stood for she is just acting out of hate barely listening to those close to her. I agree with some that she needed to be stronger mentally but as she is now she isn't strong she is just taken over by her hatred willing to destroy anything in her way to get revenge. A strong leader should not be overcome by hatred or fear that will only create a dictator which is the opposite of Nobuna's dream which she was trying to create. |
Aversa said: I somehow think Sagara and Mitsuhide are still alive and to be honest i don't think it would have a bad influence on the anime. And Nobuna is right now she is pretty much destroying everything she stood for she is just acting out of hate barely listening to those close to her. I agree with some that she needed to be stronger mentally but as she is now she isn't strong she is just taken over by her hatred willing to destroy anything in her way to get revenge. A strong leader should not be overcome by hatred or fear that will only create a dictator which is the opposite of Nobuna's dream which she was trying to create. this is where i think, Sagara comes in here, remember in the start of the anime, how he says i will not tell you how to act, but i will come in to save you when you stroll down the wrong path? this is where i think he shows up since you know, its hanzou and Zenki who were there to fake his death imo.. |
| i love them harem,comedy,romance,ecchi's see me around give me some reccomendations ^^ |
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| LN images floating around /a/ has spoiled me so this episode didn't have an impact or whatsoever. It's still all good. Waiting for at least a good conclusion for the 1st season. |
| This would be a perfect episode if Hanbei-chan was in more. I'd love to see her reaction of Yoshiharu's death. I'm so cruel! :') |
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| Now this was unexpected. Monkey dead? Really? That one really cought me off guard. |
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| Ok that settles it i'm pre-ordering the rest of the series, I want a season 2! They've still got so much material to cover they can't end it now, if Monkey really is alive and they don't pull an original anime ending where he returns home then they can make a season 2. Pre-order sales were actually a lot better than I expected so Huzzah! I think we will definitely get a season 2, but that won't stop me from helping it along! |
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| Pff I end up clicking at your spoiler box Asteriael said: This is from Vol 4. Hope for season 2 too. Would love to see the battle of Anegawa. And more story about Azai and Nobukatsu |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| Yeah it would be too weird to kill off main character so doubt Saru is dead. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
| Yeah that was obvious XD and all i wanted to know was how they did it but now everything is clear (i cannot resist when it comes to spoilers :D) |
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| Well obviously seeing as MC deaths happen so very rarely unless it's the last episode or something, you can obviously tell somethings up, but still, DAMN did that give me a seriously bad feeling. As I was watching that, part of me actually believed him to be dead and dead, goes to show how good the anime is. |
 Tonight... we are young... so let's set the world on fire, we can burn brighter, than the sun... |
| I'm kinda getting the sense that these last two episodes were kinda rushed and used as an obvious set-up for episode 12. Just hope the last episode will be satisfying. |
| They won't show up Saru at preview becuase they don't to show him alive for the next episode, that we can get a surprise that he alive in the final episode lol. I think Mitsuhide saw illusion as well, where did the body go? I didn't saw the body when she rush it to enemy, yeah there is a way to survive by falling down too if you are lucky. Falling down by a river or something. Fool the enemy by making your dead, it's a good way to fake death and make everyone retreat. I think there is no other way to survive this. |
Nothing ventured, nothing gained (Girls und Panzer der Film ) / from Nishizumi Miho |
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