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Jul 31, 2008 5:25 AM
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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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So Renton boarded the presumed to be enemy ship, but I don't know. I quite like them, well for now anyway.
Nov 17, 2008 1:41 PM
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ya i like the "enemies" more than gekko go
Feb 4, 2009 6:37 PM
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The rave guy and his wife are pretty awesome. Hope when they find out he is ex-gekkostate they dont flip out


Jun 10, 2009 11:18 PM
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I think the guy already knows that Renton is an ex-Gekko State member... He seemed to know what the green wheel thingy on Renton's board meant. I like them better than the Gekko State crew too D: They're so nice. Renton always seemed to be pushed around or bullied or beaten up on the Gekko State ship... even by Eureka's "children".
Jun 15, 2009 1:43 AM
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It kinda suck if Charles turns out to be the villian. He seems like a cool guy but appearences can be decieving


Jun 30, 2009 9:07 PM
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Well. I quite adore Ray and Charles... how adorable they are. Hope they stick around.
Jul 11, 2009 9:10 AM
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Ray and Charles are nice. I hope they won't disappear from there, they rock ^^
Aug 6, 2009 10:10 PM
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69 market... ooooh, wonder what they sell theeerrree....

lol @ techno dance party, that was awesome.
Interesting twist, this will be fun.

HAHAHA Just got the Ray Charles joke there... wow that is seriously bad.
Sep 3, 2009 4:42 PM
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I have the feeling that Ray and Charles are going to be a repeat of what Naruto's Kabuto was for me. A pretty cool character which turns out to be evil, and as such his personality changes to fit this new found evilness.

Though I doubt this will happen, since Eureka 7 has a lot better CD than Naruto.
But still...
Apr 27, 2010 7:51 AM

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I think Ray will be the villain but for short period of time and yeah Renton is treated better than on Gekko
Jul 3, 2010 12:27 AM

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Omg...I don't remember Renton grooving to the music...that was pretty funny.
Aug 4, 2010 7:23 PM

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I lol'd when Renton started fistpumping jersey shore style out of nowhere
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Oct 18, 2010 11:31 AM

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Ninja337 said:
I lol'd when Renton started fistpumping jersey shore style out of nowhere
Same here XD
Nov 29, 2010 8:29 PM

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Lol, I was like, "Here's Renton, looking like an idiot, yet again".

And this story is totally officially a coming-of-age story now. The child protagonist runs away and ends up living with someone else for a while. Specifically someone who seems quite nice but might have ulterior motives.

For some reason Ray and Charles seem to remind me slightly of Tweedledee and Tweedledum from Kiddy Grade. Though they're almost nothing like them. Ray and Charles are more like Un-ou and A-ou, actually, being amoral mercenaries and all.

ColdBeans said:
It kinda suck if Charles turns out to be the villian. He seems like a cool guy but appearences can be decieving


I think they'll be the villains for this arc, which probably ends at Episode 25 or 26.

That said, I think Dewey is the real villain.
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Dec 4, 2010 9:55 PM

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Another good episode. :P
Ray & Charles seem to love Renton, but wait until they find out what ship he was on before, because i think in episode 21, Charles said something about Holland.

But anyway, watching Renton dance to that music was too hilarious.


Aug 22, 2011 4:48 AM
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Ray and Charles have the most 70s character designs I've seen in ages. They're nice to Renton though
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Sep 21, 2011 2:32 PM

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that feel of family
Jan 23, 2012 3:29 PM
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The party in the park was like a symbol of E7's vibe. "Get it by your hands" track (also, the title which is takeback to Adrock's words, awesome) is a symbol of sort for me, too. I love it the most out of techno tracks in E7.
The contrast between Gekko and Charles and Ray's ships is funny. And how Charles and Ray treat Renton. Still, the difference in their behaviour toward kid comes out of the fact the Gekko's members, especially Holland - even though they were all aware that Renton is only a child and remembered about it sometimes - tended to treat him like another member, someone equal to the adults. Well, this fact helped Renton to mature a bit, too. Charles and Ray, on other hand, put quite an emphasis on the fact Renton is still young and see him in a parental way. It ain't half bad, but I think for Renton, friendship relations on the Gekko are better.
Feb 10, 2012 7:00 AM
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Ninja337 said:
I lol'd when Renton started fistpumping jersey shore style out of nowhere


this
Feb 28, 2012 8:34 PM

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Ray + Charles seem like pretty chill characters, but they most likely have ulterior motives.
Apr 24, 2012 10:33 PM

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So Charles likes to finish off the kill personally using a gun, eh? I think that qualifies him for being one of the bad guys. If he'd been paid enough he would have quite happily boarded the ship and stolen the "chocolate" for the pirates, rather than saving from them.
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Jun 18, 2012 11:45 PM
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I love the music used in this series, it fits in so well.
Jul 27, 2012 3:03 PM

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I think Charles is a douche. But at least he doesn't unnecessarily slap Renton around.
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Jul 28, 2012 2:56 PM
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Someone tell me what the fuck was up with that rave party and suddenly mushrooms sticking out of the ground when there was an earthquake. Was Renton high?

Also mfing Charles.
Sep 28, 2012 1:36 PM
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I think I might have figured out why everything is what it is in Renton's time (and so Ao's aswell).
If you don't want a possible spoiler (who knows) then don't read on.

Nov 20, 2012 1:15 PM

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Charles looks similar to Renton. I bet thats his real father and not the other guy. Can't wait to see how this will play out.

Dominic visits Renton's place at the end it looks like.
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Nov 24, 2012 5:34 PM

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ya i like the "enemies" more than gekko go

Yea at least they don't freakin hit him. This couple is cool not like the other couple who always seem to have domestic dispute and beat Renton out of sheer pleasure
Dec 1, 2012 1:24 PM

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theeggman85 said:

HAHAHA Just got the Ray Charles joke there... wow that is seriously bad.


This.

Ninja337 said:
I lol'd when Renton started fistpumping jersey shore style out of nowhere


And that.
Jan 20, 2013 1:01 PM
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^Definitely . I mean they seem too good to be true. They could turn on Renton anytime now...... I just have a weird feeling about them cuz' usually people like that have ulterior motives!
Feb 24, 2013 1:43 AM

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Charles is so hipster that it's awesome. Renton doesn't seem to notice that the ship he's in looks like Gekkostate's (which iirc hadn't been released yet for military use). Weird. Or maybe it just hasn't crossed his mind. If things turn out to be what the anime opening suggests...it would be hard for Renton.
Mar 6, 2013 7:42 PM

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The beginning was so sad I teared up
Apr 10, 2013 8:19 AM
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Qashqai said:
tended to treat him like another member, someone equal to the adults. Well, this fact helped Renton to mature a bit, too. Charles and Ray, on other hand, put quite an emphasis on the fact Renton is still young and see him in a parental way. It ain't half bad, but I think for Renton, friendship relations on the Gekko are better.

Exactly. Everyone seems to think that Renton was treated badly on the Gekko now they see how Charles and Ray treat him. But the truth is that on the Gekko he was (almost) an equal and was treated as such. He wasn't being spoiled like he is now by those two.
I am not saying either is right or wrong by the way and I do think that Holland treated him unfairly but not the others.
I also like the things that Charles is saying to Renton, like that everyone is fighting for their survival and it's not just Good Vs. Evil. In this anime there aren't many truly evil enemies, it's just colliding interests and beliefs. Thats the reason why I find it strange that people already predict Charles becoming evil and even go as far as to compare it to Naruto Shippuuden.
May 8, 2013 2:39 PM
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wth is with renton he has no back bone he left the state because they where killing people nd then he goes and joins some mercenaries and smiles while he shoots a guy thinking wow tht was so kl wat a douch he is the most anoying character in existence the only reason im still watching is for the fight scenes and the thin wafer of hope that he will change
Jun 14, 2013 9:39 AM

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How sweet, Renton found a family. I wonder what will happen if they found out who he really is.

Jul 23, 2013 1:14 PM
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theeggman85 said:

HAHAHA Just got the Ray Charles joke there... wow that is seriously bad.

Omg haha nice catch there o_o

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wth is with renton he has no back bone he left the state because they where killing people nd then he goes and joins some mercenaries and smiles while he shoots a guy thinking wow tht was so kl wat a douch he is the most anoying character in existence

Aside from the terrible spelling and no use of punctuation, I agree :) No one treats him like a kid (except for Holland) on Gekko and he gets pissed off because he doesn't see things like everyone else does, I guess he just wants to be babied. Matthieu and Eureka spoke to Renton as if he was an adult regarding the reason that they kill, but he doesn't understand so he leaves, but then understands it when Charles tells him that they're fighting to put food on the table. Really? How was that any different from what Matthieu said?
Nov 8, 2013 5:19 PM

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the base ,
renton got his groove on
Feb 2, 2014 12:49 PM

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Ninja337 said:
I lol'd when Renton started fistpumping jersey shore style out of nowhere


Haha me too, im not sure how i feel about their names being "Ray Charles" though, but i kinda like them so far.
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Charles and Ray treat him much better than Gekko does... I like them.
Jul 21, 2014 2:58 AM

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I wonder if Charles knows Renton is part of Gekkostate when he saw the wheel. I mean sure he knows Holland but I'm curious to know if he knows what he wheel signified.
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Aug 19, 2014 11:39 AM

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Very interesting development, it's quite interesting how he joined up with those who seems to search revenge with Holland! But well let's see what happens next.
Dec 7, 2014 10:55 AM

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Waaa- Dominic was able to read... a map? What, I don't even...

It's obvious that Charles reconized the GekkoState member wheel. I hope he's not just using him to get closer to the GekkoState... Because if so, it will only hurt him in the end. I think Renton have received enough shit in the face since the beginning.

Anyway, that new couple is really cool and charismatic. Of course, it is hidding something since it's just too ''perfect''. It's too ''clean'', like if they wanted to erase their past.

The discussion between Gidjet and Eureka was cute. It show how Eureka is changing and people are now more willing to approach her.
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Charles and Ray are pretty cool so far. Sadly I forsee their death in the future.
Aug 5, 2016 8:03 PM

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I am enjoyed this episode a lot more than almost all of the others. Renton is actually being treated like a human being with these new people whom we nothing about. Thats ok though because it feels like par for the course for his show! I mean why is the world the way it is? How did Rentons dad save the world? What is the crew of the Gekkos motivations? Is the government bad? I don't know because nothing has been explained!

All I know is that to me none of the characters from the Gekko have any appeal... In fact I actually dislike most of them. Even if this new group that Renton is with turns out to violently oppose the Gekko ship I would root for this new duo, unless something drastic happens. I really hope Renton doesn't go back...
Sep 30, 2016 1:57 AM

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I hope they adopt him. I like that couple already more then most of Gekko state.
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Jun 22, 2017 6:39 AM

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I think I'm in agreement with everyone, I'm digging Ray Charles more than Gekko.
Sep 23, 2017 7:49 AM

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Finally got to see one of these tectonic shifts people keep talking about in action, scary stuff wonder what's causing them.

Charles and Ray seem like pretty cool characters and totally don't remind me of any characters from an older series nuh uh not at all.
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Yeah, so far the supposed enemies have treated Renton way better than the Gecko crew. They are really nice and friendly to him and took him in.

I too enjoyed this episode more than most of the others, mostly because of the new characters and agree that that most of the Gecko crew aren't that great.
Oct 12, 2017 2:09 PM
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I thought they put drugs while he slept haha ...

in the middle of the poor neighborhood they start to party and dance haha
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Jul 21, 2019 8:19 PM

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Eureka learning about love... I was really mad about Renton naivety when he was stolen LMAO, but the most important question is: Why Hap was shitting naked? Interesting how the villains are treating Renton, but there is clearly something really suspect about it.
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The techno part was pretty wtf xD

Charles and Ray are awesome and I like how they treat Renton, but it's kinda sad knowing that their relationship isn't meant to last long.

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