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Jul 18, 2011 3:19 PM

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holy owo

poor kotetsu why he isn't say anything to bunny trust him kotetsuuuu

poor man I think he maybe should quit and be the father kaede needs

in the other side wao for lunatic I mean he didn't turn a blind eye to bad people maybe killing his father wasn't the best way but well it just happened so whatever he moving along and decided to kill all the rats in the city XD

I'm anxious about the other episode i wan't to see it already
Life is bittersweet can you live with that?
Jul 18, 2011 4:42 PM

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Maverick is so behind everything that happened to Bunny..

Lunatic is the most interesting character so far,the poor guy is going insane I hope he won't get killed by the end of the show ;__;..

And it seems that Tiger is getting jealous of Bunny success >,>'..

Jul 18, 2011 4:47 PM
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Maskonna said:
Maverick is so behind everything that happened to Bunny..

Lunatic is the most interesting character so far,the poor guy is going insane I hope he won't get killed by the end of the show ;__;..

And it seems that Tiger is getting jealous of Bunny success >,>'..
yah seriously its very obvious

maverick relised with legend losing his abilities he would need to find another hero for hero tv to stay in buissness so heproboly hired jake to kill his parents so that he could take barnaby in and raise him to be the next legend which has already happened, jake wa sjust a red herring its obvious maverick did it, i mean the guys name is maverick what do you expect

"Maverick: a person pursuing rebellious, even potentially disruptive, policies or ideas"
Jul 18, 2011 5:53 PM

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Wow deep episode, I never would have thought that Lunatic's past would be so interesting,especially who his father really is.
Poor Kotetsu is losing his powers, I hope he doesn't quit :(

I really love this anime so much i'm close into giving it a 10/10 now.I already want to would what's gonna happen next!
Jul 18, 2011 7:59 PM

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Pretty amazing how this anime changed so quickly into a dark atmosphere.
I think they timed it really well in the story with how Kotetsu is losing his powers just as Legend did.
Jul 18, 2011 9:00 PM
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Falads said:
Pretty amazing how this anime changed so quickly into a dark atmosphere.
I think they timed it really well in the story with how Kotetsu is losing his powers just as Legend did.
i know right, when i first watched this serise i never thought it would get dark let alone actually make me think about what will happen next,
Jul 18, 2011 9:21 PM
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arielifeoma said:
What girl? Do you have a time stamp for this episode and any others that she was in? I'd like to make the connection myself.


There's a scarf wearing girl, nicknamed scarf-tan by some people, that shows up in almost every episode. here's a pic showing her appearences in episodes 1-14, and here's her in episode 15, and here's her in this episode.
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Jul 19, 2011 3:22 AM

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Really nice that we got some insight into Lunatic's past.

Also interesting that Legend lost his powers just as Kotetsu is now, certainly looking forward to the next ep :)
Jul 19, 2011 6:42 AM

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Holy crap, this episode was really REALLY good. Lunatic is a great character.
I am so loving this series.
Jul 20, 2011 8:20 PM

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HOLY CRAP, THIS SHOW IS AWESOME. LUNATIC'S DAD IS LEGEND?!?!?!?! I NEVER would have seen that coming O_O
Poor Kotetsu! T_T Brings up some good questions though ... like, what is he gonna do when his powers die? D; Crap, this show is too good T_T
Well, I guess he can finally visit his daughter next episode ...? OMG, I love this show D:
Jul 22, 2011 5:17 AM
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Doooooooh Lunatic's father is Mr. Legend!?
Jul 22, 2011 7:09 AM

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Well, while we are waiting, I got some more info on what's up and coming in T&B. (will be in spoiler tags but not overly revealing), and thank -KarumA- for providing translations.

Summary for episode 16

From the new Hero Book


That was agonizingly vague. Also it seems that Sunrise is gonna do what Sunrise does best.
Jul 22, 2011 7:19 AM

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Seen it coming before they removed the shadowy thingies. The car looks pretty weird and the dad looks fat and Lunatic's hair matches Legend's so I realized it was Mr.Legend before they revealed it.


But man this anime is pretty good.
Jul 23, 2011 12:03 AM

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Wow! Nice twist!
Jul 24, 2011 2:45 AM

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nice twist of story right there so lunatic's father is none other than mr legend that kotetsu is admiring and that mr legend has some sad past on how he handled his fading powers and eventually made lunatic become what he is right now
Jul 24, 2011 9:11 AM

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This is getting better. Plot twist FTW!!

Mr. Legend as Lunatic's father definitely adds depth to his character.

And so with Tiger..

About Maverick, it's clearly obvious what he did to Bunny's family

but still there's no clear motive since the time he took Bunny in, he doesn't have any powers to take advantage from.
Jul 24, 2011 1:47 PM
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I am incredibly excited about this series and the complex issues that it is beginning to deal with. I have been very interested in Yuri/Lunatic for such a long time now and this is an incredible revelation. It also sheds so much light on Mr. Legend. This episode was so dark and depressing, however. Can't say its my fav, but it is such a change from the lighthearted first arc or the series.
Jul 24, 2011 1:53 PM

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Oh wow, that was an amazing episode. Yuri's past was such a shock, and I feel really bad for him >: Can't believe that Mr. Legend was such a messed up person towards the end. It's honestly hard to be completely against Yuri's philosophy, but I still think he's a bit too extreme.

And I agree with the people who mentioned Mr. Marverick as being suspicious. My first guess was that he might be connected to Ouroboros but the previous arc seems to show that that's not exactly the case. Still, he's not quite what he seems, imo.

Poor Tiger's really going to go through some serious depression.

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Jul 26, 2011 12:49 AM
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I'm just going to leave this here.



RECURSION!
Jul 27, 2011 6:43 AM

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lunatic's mother is annoying like fkk
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Jul 28, 2011 8:38 AM
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Tiger is losing his power's duration T.T

Well I guess he will start to consider how precious his power is and he will start to use his brain more than his brawn.

His daughter have a good future of being a hero as well =)
Aug 1, 2011 3:20 AM

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Cannot believe with Lunatic and Mr. Legend.
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Aug 13, 2011 7:07 AM

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adamantine said:
OH MY GOD

THIS IS A QUALITY SHOW

THIS A GENUINELY QUALITY SHOW


MY MIND WAS BLOWN

I HAVE NOT BEEN SURPRISED IN A VERY LONG TIME.

I didn't care much about Yuri since his appearance but WOW was that deep. I never saw it coming. It was pretty sad too.

Tiger and Yuri need a hug so badly now :c

Now I'm sure I'm giving T&B a 10.
Aug 16, 2011 9:30 AM

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This episode rocked EVERYONE's world. Kotetsu's and everyone watching. Damn! Mr. Legend was really beating the sh*t out of his wife! Closed fist! I'm not surprised that Lunatic turned out rather screwed up. Then again, you could say he's somewhat well adjusted (penchant for vigilante murder aside). He's a dedicated, functioning member of society ...until he sees a NEXT abusing their powers.

Plus, I don't really have sympathy for a serial killer. It would have been nice if Kotetsu hadn't screwed up, nearly gotten killed and let the guy get away, but seeing Lunatic give a him a painful death doesn't really hurt my heart either.

Ghostlightning had a very good right up on this episode. You guys should check it out.
http://ghostlightning.wordpress.com/2011/07/18/moral-authenticity-the-hero-tiger-bunny-16/

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Aug 24, 2011 8:08 PM

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Whelp, this episode made me boost Tiger & Bunny from an 8 to a 9. However, the series is gonna have to do something really spectacular if it wants to make up for its lackluster first-third and earn a 10.
Sep 9, 2011 6:18 PM

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This anime is really good !
The scenarists didn't just invented a basic story for the money and to please the sponsors !
Shit just got serious !
Oct 13, 2011 1:45 PM

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It really sucks to find out that Mr. Legend was actually like that it makes me sad and now i feel kinda bad for Lunatic D| (I have too much Empathy )

God Damn it kotetsu this is the third time your life has made me want to cry ;-;
Dec 27, 2011 7:15 PM

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Did NOT see it coming that Lunatic is Mr Legend's kid and that Mr Legend was such a deadbeat that resorted to domestic assault. D: Holy shit. I guess that pretty much 100% guarantees that it will be a Tiger vs. Lunatic fight at the end, what with Tiger's backstory with Mr Legend.

I feel pretty bad about Kotetsu. I mean, not only are his power declining, but now he's found out all this shit about his personal hero (heh), Mr Legend. If it were me I'd be seriously fucking depressed right about now.
Jan 16, 2012 11:57 PM
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Well, that was incredibly depressing.
Mar 14, 2012 2:19 PM

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Lunatic is a very interesting character, I would like to know more about him. Also I have to say I feel very bad for Tiger.
Apr 1, 2012 4:43 AM

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HOLY SHIT.
THAT WAS SUCH AN AMAZING EPISODE!
|ω・)
Jul 14, 2012 11:14 AM

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This episode was absolutely amazing.
Nov 14, 2012 11:21 AM

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Wow... This episode was way better than the whole series so far.
Jul 3, 2013 4:55 PM

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amazing episode :D

though i thought Barnaby was the son of Mr Legend.

i mean what could Lunatic had done? Legend might have killed his wife if he continues to beat her like that.

wow i feel sorry for Lunatic :(



im glad Lunatic destroyed that stupid fucker



so Kotetsu is really losing his power like Mr Legend :(

please don't end up like him!!!



the next 9 episods are gonna be intense!
Jul 4, 2013 9:27 PM
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Torisunanohokori said:
Lunatic's dad being who he is adds a fantastic dimension to his character.

This.
I wonder how Tiger would handle learning that Lunatic is his son.
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Jul 5, 2013 2:28 PM

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Yuri that sneaky bastard...sneaking his way into my heart, playing with my feels. Legend got what was coming for him, why did he hit his wife? Why did he take his frustrations on someone so helpless? He deserved to be punished.

Yet again that ungrateful woman calls Yuri a demon, yet he still calls her mama...

It's ironic how Kotetsu is slowly turning out to be a step closer to being like his /idol/ but I really hope Barnaby can stop that from happening!

I wish someone bursts Kotetsu's bubble and tells him that his /idol/ was an ass [apologies for the word] who was pretty much a useless little shit who abused his wife!
Oct 28, 2013 5:57 AM

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WOW, just as I thought, that blonde guy IS Lunatic!
Mr. Legend is his father? I didn't expect that! WOW WOW WOW just f*ckin' wow!
When Tiger fell down from the building I thought he was going to die. ;A;/

I'm sorry about him, loosing his power, but now he can go home and spend time with his daughter.
Was it she in the preview? She has grown up! ..and, is she pregnant? Is she sick? Because she was in bed. oO
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Feb 22, 2014 6:19 PM

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Legend was Lunatic's father?! And Tiger is gradually losing his powers?! Now this is getting serious! Glad that Lunatic set the record straight and separated himself from the other heroes by admitting that he was not a hero and he has his own idea of justice. Too bad only one person heard him and he's dead.
Looking forward to the next few episodes.
Apr 20, 2014 8:47 AM

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Sad story, kinda feel bad for Lunatic... And Tiger. </3
Jun 18, 2014 7:56 AM

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Who knew that Legend was an abusive father, i feel kind of bad for Lunatic.
Aug 3, 2014 2:34 PM

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Pretty impressive development, but things sure are not looking good! I really wonder what's next.
Mar 3, 2015 10:35 PM

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Mr. Legend was Lunatic's father? Wow...

Dat strip club though.

Mr. Legend's powers declined too? Man this is getting deep...

Hero TV even staged all of Mr. Legend's arrests?! Jesus Christ...

Seeing Kotetsu land in that dumpster made me feel really bad for him. Poor guy :'(

Great episode with plot twists galore! Onto the next episode!

8/10
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Dec 13, 2015 12:25 PM
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kinda could tell lunatics pops was mr legend going by the preview. Feel bad for the guy his dad became abusive and his mom is dumb and still supports that jerk even though hes dead. Again tiger takes another blow learning some truth about the man he looked up to. Cant wait to see his reaction whenever lunatic tells tiger about the abuse part. also weird club with jason mask wearing strippers.
Sep 26, 2016 8:49 AM

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Oh my GOD! That girl is EVERYWHERE! She's ALWAYS in trouble! She's like Princess Toadstool, the first time, it's fine, but then the nth time, you wonder whether or not she has Stockholm Syndrome!

But then again, this episode is pretty interesting, and the Legend's backstory...

MIND BLOWN!!!
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Feb 21, 2017 6:24 PM
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Tiger landed in the dumpster, exactly where he belongs.

Just kidding, someone please help him. I hope things go alright for him ;-;

FINALLY, TIGER BACKSTORY NEXT EPISODE!
Apr 17, 2017 4:56 AM

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Things are getting more dramatic by the episode, even with True Evil villains aside. I can't even start guessing how things will unfold down the road.
Apr 18, 2018 12:30 AM

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Man there was a lot in this episode. Some great backstory for Lunatic and now Kotetsu is having his hopes and dreams smashed to pieces.
Oct 9, 2018 11:08 PM
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Wow. Where do I even begin with this episode? Lunatics past is a shock and now I understand why the character is the way he is, he could grow on me. Poor Tiger is going through something troublesome, at first, I thought his powers were getting stronger, as he also did. But maybe that isn't what's truly happening here? I also wonder what he will think if he finds out what Lunatics dad was really like behind the curtain.
Jul 2, 2020 1:33 PM

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Lol if that conveniently placed trash bin wasn't there, Kotetsu would have gone splat!
Aug 21, 2020 1:48 PM
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At first I was thinking, "What an ungrateful woman. Guess she's still suffering from battered woman syndrome decades later?" But when I realized Lunatic was Legends son, shit got real real.

I hope Tiger retires and gets to spend time with his daughter.
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