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i know these MAL and IMDB ratings dont really matter, but they are somewhat accurate, but i dont think frieren compares to most things in the top 10 especially steins gate and gintama so why do you think people rate it so highly?
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Dec 30, 2024 6:39 PM
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“Does frieren deserve its spot at number 1?”
No.

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but they are somewhat accurate

Accurate how? They don't portray any sort of objective quality.

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why do you think people rate it so highly?

Because it appeals to the masses more and is able to please various different groups (e.g., Frieren balances between Iyashikei-esque moments and sakuga packed battles).
Dec 30, 2024 6:42 PM
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“Does frieren deserve its spot at number 1?”
No.

Jessescent said:
but they are somewhat accurate

Accurate how? They don't portray any sort of objective quality.

Jessescent said:
why do you think people rate it so highly?

Because it appeals to the masses more and is able to please various different groups (e.g., Frieren balances between Iyashikei-esque moments and sakuga packed battles).
@Cielord accurate in the way that most of the media that are highly rated are for the most part good series
Dec 30, 2024 6:45 PM
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@Cielord accurate in the way that most of the media that are highly rated are for the most part good series
@Jessescent And you understand “good” is subjective; it's just so happened that you enjoyed most high-rated media.
Dec 30, 2024 6:50 PM
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@Jessescent And you understand “good” is subjective; it's just so happened that you enjoyed most high-rated media.
@Cielord yeah so did many other people but thats not the point
Dec 30, 2024 6:51 PM
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@Cielord yeah so did many other people but thats not the point
@Jessescent So what's the point? How are ratings accurate?
Dec 30, 2024 6:53 PM
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Because it does not matter whichever anime is number one in MAL.

I still like Frieren regardless of its MAL rank :)



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No. K-On deserves that spot. Non Non Biyori should be number two.
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@Jessescent So what's the point? How are ratings accurate?
@Cielord as you can see in the post i said they dont matter but they are SOMEWHAT accurate, because once again they can indicate whether a series is good or not
Dec 30, 2024 7:20 PM

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Better than Shounen dominating the top spot for years.
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Dec 30, 2024 7:22 PM
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Better than Shounen dominating the top spot for years.
@Tropisch why does it matter what demographic is at the top
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@Cielord as you can see in the post i said they dont matter but they are SOMEWHAT accurate, because once again they can indicate whether a series is good or not
@Jessescent I will reiterate: good is subjective. Ratings only indicate the general feeling of the ones who rated it, and not any sort of objective quality.

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Better than Shounen dominating the top spot for years.

You know Frieren is a shounen?
Dec 30, 2024 7:29 PM
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@Jessescent I will reiterate: good is subjective. Ratings only indicate the general feeling of the ones who rated it, and not any sort of objective quality.

Tropisch said:
Better than Shounen dominating the top spot for years.

You know Frieren is a shounen?
@Cielord i didnt say anything was objective...
Dec 30, 2024 7:34 PM

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@Cielord i didnt say anything was objective...
@Jessescent That's what you pratically implied.
Dec 30, 2024 7:36 PM
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@Jessescent That's what you pratically implied.
@Cielord no i didnt imply that but whatever its fine
Dec 30, 2024 7:46 PM

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@Cielord no i didnt imply that but whatever its fine
@Jessescent “as you can see in the post i said they dont matter but they are SOMEWHAT accurate, because once again they can indicate whether a series is good or not”
If you understand that media is subjective, then you will understand ratings can't indicate whether something is good.
Dec 30, 2024 7:56 PM

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I think it has about as good of an argument as any of the other candidates. Only real issue I have against it being in the top spot is that it feels a bit off to have something that is not a single entry complete story as the #1 show but there are so few of those comparatively that I don't mind that much.

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The Emotional Depth of frieren hits right in the feels with its exploration of time and memory. Slow Burn pacing gives fans time to savor every moment.

It’s like a gourmet meal in anime form – not everyone’s taste, but oh-so satisfying for those who get it. But honestly I don't get it.
Dec 30, 2024 8:26 PM

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Never cared for the top 100,considering a rating of 9.32 from 560K ppl I am guessing it did something right,haven't watched it so can't say.Considering you mentioned other candidates you view as worthy,I'd say Texhnolyze should be number one,but I can keep dreaming
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"does frieren deserve its spot at number 1"

No, but it doesn't really matter to me.
Dec 30, 2024 8:38 PM

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It's debatable, but it definitely is deserving. Of course it's all a matter of opinions, but there's no question it's GOAT-worthy.
Dec 30, 2024 8:51 PM
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of course fucking not, frieren is just a mid plot with good animation
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Dec 30, 2024 10:51 PM

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Because it does not matter whichever anime is number one in MAL.

I still like Frieren regardless of its MAL rank :)
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Dec 30, 2024 11:40 PM

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MAL is full of bots, delusional people and tourists so rating doesn't matter much, or better to day, it means the opposite thing - the bigger score anime has then the more it's suspicious since I watched many of highly acclaimed anime series and most of them are average at best when some are utterly disgusting or primitive. But some people are so big simpletons that seriously keep saying even on verge of 2025 year that 'masses are always right' with implication that sum of subjective opinions somehow becomes objective reality when it's just a statistic.
Dec 30, 2024 11:46 PM
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I don't know why people rate it highly, but who can understand the mind of an average person...
Dec 31, 2024 1:33 AM

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Frieren has the right mix of action and contemplativeness to appeal to both young and expert anime fans. It won't be the favorite anime of someone who doesn't particularly enjoy one of these sides, but rest assured that Demon Slayer or Mushishi would never be able to reach the n°1 spot.

Personally, it's not my n°1 but I'd say it's better than any other anime that ever reached the top spot on MAL.
Dec 31, 2024 3:51 AM

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It makes no sense, I assume people got emotionally manipulated by the first episode, logged in to their account they created to rate AOT and demon slayer, gave it a high score and then forgot to change it as they also forgot Frieren existed. The weighted score thing then reacted weirdly and gave it 10 billion points.

I understand the rankings are a bit weird but Frieren being top one of all time is probably due to a glitch or mods trolling.
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Yes, objectively Frieren is a masterpiece on all fronts; characters, story, mono no aware theme, SoL, action, animation, backgrounds, direction, cinematography, world building, mix of comedy and serious subjects. Is it for everyone, no. But if you're a fan of high fantasy/swords and sorcery and enjoy a well crafted show made by talented people then you'll probably agree it deserves the no 1 spot. There's only a handful of other shows that can compete imho, Aria The Natural and LotGH.
Dec 31, 2024 4:20 AM
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Better than Shounen dominating the top spot for years.
@Tropisch Frieren is a shounen, though.
Dec 31, 2024 4:21 AM

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Yep, it’s the only one that deserves that spot, anyone who can’t even comprehend this little fact is just stupid imo.
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Dec 31, 2024 4:34 AM
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like many, i can think of anime i would put above it, but not all of us can have our number 1 at the top and something must be there, so i think in that sense, it is deserving, simply by being a great show that many agree is top notch.

also, i disagree about it not comparing to the other anime in the top 10, i think it compares very favorably to most of those, if not all of them, especially considering many of those are sequels with inflated scores.
Dec 31, 2024 4:37 AM

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No as I said multiple times already, the only good anime that has ever been made is Malice@Doll.
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Dec 31, 2024 4:42 AM

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it'll depend if its able to withstand the test of time. if no one talks or remembers it 10 years from now, we will know the answer. but if it continues to be as highly regarded then as it is now, then yes. my guess is that it will probably fall a few places but still be in the top 10 or 20.
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Dec 31, 2024 5:24 AM

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Yes, according to the majority.

Jessescent said:
why do you think people rate it so highly?
Because they love it.
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Dec 31, 2024 5:25 AM
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No, this anime deserves the #1 spot though:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40750/Kaifuku_Jutsushi_no_Yarinaoshi
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Yes it does.

A fantasy anime at top as it should be✌️
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It makes no sense, I assume people got emotionally manipulated by the first episode, logged in to their account they created to rate AOT and demon slayer, gave it a high score and then forgot to change it as they also forgot Frieren existed. The weighted score thing then reacted weirdly and gave it 10 billion points.

I understand the rankings are a bit weird but Frieren being top one of all time is probably due to a glitch or mods trolling.
@AnimeGirlGusher So almost all anime ranking websites conspired to make Frieren their top rated anime? Seems likely ...
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As long as I've been on this site Frieren is probably the only anime I feel truly belongs up there. As time moves forward so does the size and overall opinion of the anime community, contrary to the opinions of many on this site there's no such thing as "the objectively best anime" or "peak fiction".

If it really bugs you, please rest assured it won't last forever thanks to all the obsessed fans and bots pushing their favorites to the top.

Dec 31, 2024 5:44 AM

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It is the greatest anime to ever be made tho.
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No, this anime deserves the #1 spot though:
https://myanimelist.net/anime/40750/Kaifuku_Jutsushi_no_Yarinaoshi
@BigBoyAdvance it'll always hold a spot deep inside my heart... somewhere deep inside anyway

Dec 31, 2024 5:49 AM

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i haven't seen it and never will, but it's probably ass

most of the anime in the top 100 suck so frieren being an exception is unlikely
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Jessescent said:
but they are somewhat accurate

No, they have heavy prejudice against older anime or mecha
But to the question, personally I didn't like Frieren but honestly? No anime will be a "right" n.1 anime in my opinion, even those I love so I can't care
Dec 31, 2024 7:05 AM

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It's perfectly fine with me, and better than the other stuff that's up there with it...so it being no.1, no complaints.
Dec 31, 2024 7:32 AM

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The only anime that deserves the number one spot is either Fate zero or Gintama. The rest are all undeserved.
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Dec 31, 2024 7:58 AM

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It's not as if a person or a group decided it's spot on the ranking. It's there because of everyone's aggregate score. It's all the viewers collective opinion that it is number one. What else can determine the top spot? What is the reason behind your statement? Isn't it just your own subjective taste?

If frieren didn't deserve its spot then it simply wouldn't be there.

(Well there are cases where the score gets inflated because the said entry is a latter season of the show where mostly the fans are remaining to vote but that is not the case for frieren either)
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Yes, objectively Frieren is a masterpiece on all fronts; characters, story, mono no aware theme, SoL, action, animation, backgrounds, direction, cinematography, world building, mix of comedy and serious subjects. Is it for everyone, no. But if you're a fan of high fantasy/swords and sorcery and enjoy a well crafted show made by talented people then you'll probably agree it deserves the no 1 spot. There's only a handful of other shows that can compete imho, Aria The Natural and LotGH.
@23feanor

You lost all credibility when you said "objectively", and your supposed masterpiece anime does not even have an ending and exists solely for one season at the top spot, there is no telling if it will still stay the same masterpiece you claim it to be until the end. AoT is another example of "masterpiece" anime that was brought down by its ending.

Not to mention, Seirei no Moribito has all the elements you mentioned in your post plus it actually has a satisfying ending, but of course it does not have a cute waifu material like Frieren so no top 1 spot for it.
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I really could care less what's #1 on MyAnimeList.

While Frieren isn't #1 for me, I'd say the anime deserves the #1, because it was unbelievably great and got so popular among the people.
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MAL and IMDB ratings dont matter nor are they accurate. Most of it goes down to popularity and current social media engagement. Its why you see a lot of people claim something as "peak cinema", even though with level headed viewing its just fine. I dont personally mind it being number 1 since I love the show, I understand some of the valid criticism people make for it (for example it being an incomplete work), and I love FMAB which was in the top rankings for years. Do I think Steins Gate or Gintama deserve such high spots, I dunno, havent watched them yet. The only rating that matters to me is my own, if someone has similar agreements, great, if they dont, thats fine. Wont lose sleep if most of my top favorite anime arent even scraping the top 50/100/500 on MAL.
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MAL and IMDB ratings dont matter nor are they accurate. Most of it goes down to popularity and current social media engagement. Its why you see a lot of people claim something as "peak cinema", even though with level headed viewing its just fine. I dont personally mind it being number 1 since I love the show, I understand some of the valid criticism people make for it (for example it being an incomplete work), and I love FMAB which was in the top rankings for years. Do I think Steins Gate or Gintama deserve such high spots, I dunno, havent watched them yet. The only rating that matters to me is my own, if someone has similar agreements, great, if they dont, thats fine. Wont lose sleep if most of my top favorite anime arent even scraping the top 50/100/500 on MAL.
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