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Oct 2, 5:11 PM
#1
When we released the overhaul to the genre/themes system two years ago, we promised that the new names and definitions weren't set in stone, and that we would be updating them periodically. As expected, various issues have arisen since then and we've been working through them one-by-one internally. Rather than do another massive overhaul with everything at once, we plan to make changes bit-by-bit to address known concerns. For this reason, I would like to avoid making a new announcement each time and will instead use this thread as a changelog going forward. If you would like to keep up-to-date with name/definitions changes made to genres/themes, please add this thread to your watched topics. Please note: Changes will be announced here after they are reflected on the site, but it will take us time to add or modify database entries to reflect the new names/definitions. October 2, 2024 - See details
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Oct 2, 5:11 PM
#2
Fantasy/Supernatural/Urban Fantasy Our previous definition was derived from literary works and focused more on the main cast's perception of the world, versus the setting the story was placed in. This resulted in a number of "episode 1 event reveals true world!" type stories to be tagged Fantasy when colloquially they're often more referred to as Supernatural. To address this, we've moved to more of a setting and power-based approach. In its most basic form, the new definitions are: - High Fantasy (constructed world with magic) → Fantasy - Low Fantasy (our world without magic) → Supernatural However, there are many stories that exist in the "middle" of these two, such as stories set in our world with magic, or stories set in constructed worlds that resemble Earth/are alternate histories of Earth. To allow true "High Fantasy" to be separated from these "middle" Fantasy stories using the Advanced Search, we've created a new Urban Fantasy theme. Super Power While writing the new definitions for the above, Super Power was also discussed and now has a definition. Boys Love/Girls Love Expanded the definition (with more words) to make the explicit genre sections more clear. The meaning behind the definitions themselves remain unchanged. Romantic Subtext → Love Status Quo With the popularization of 'Teasing' manga and Twitter manga, a recent and common trend in manga is to feature a couple that experiences frequent cute, blushy, and/or fluffy moments in a mundane setting to make the reader go "kyun" while reading every chapter. Since the emphasis is on teasing a reaction from the audience, these cute interactions are prioritized over other story events that would otherwise deepen or develop the romantic relationship. This is a type of romantic setup that heavy romance manga readers can either really like or really dislike. Similar to love triangle or harem, these readers would prefer to know this setup before going into the story. Since they don't have a specific name in the fandom, we tried to use Romantic Subtext and not tag these series Romance, similar to Harem series without romantic progression. However, the name Romantic Subtext is easily confused with Romantic Subplot, and not tagging these series Romance created a debate of "so this isn't good enough to be labelled romance?" It also began to be applied to other series which also had romantic undertones without romantic progression, rather than the types of series it was originally created for. To address this: - The definition has been completely re-written to try and restrict it to these specific types of stories. - After re-defining it, we settled on a new name, "Love Status Quo." - Like Love Polygon, all series tagged Love Status Quo will also have the Romance tag. Villainess (Anime) More and more villainess anime have been receiving adaptations in the last two years, so we've added this tag on the anime-side as well now. |
Oct 2, 6:16 PM
#3
@Kineta I think we have enough anime to add in Zombies as a new theme. We already have Vampire as a theme, and if we do add in Zombies, it definitely won't be the smallest group out of all the themes available so far. I made a suggestion here from last year with a list of entries. |
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Oct 2, 6:26 PM
#4
Please @Kineta as a lead admin , tell me honestly... do you really think that when it comes to Genres/Themes , the first problem that comes to mind when using this website is the fact that we Kineta said: the name Romantic Subtext is easily confused with Romantic Subplot, etc? The number 1 problem on this website when it comes to Genres/Themes is how poorly 99% of anime and manga etc are tagged on this website. And most importantly 100% of the times , the official thread(https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=60876&show=0) for us to give you feedback about Genres/Themes with proof is completely ignored by the manga mods. Genuinely asking, shouldn't solving the above problem be the top priority for every website that strives to offer as accurate info as possible ? |
YubisoftOct 2, 6:43 PM
Oct 2, 7:15 PM
#5
Reply to Kineta
Fantasy/Supernatural/Urban Fantasy
Our previous definition was derived from literary works and focused more on the main cast's perception of the world, versus the setting the story was placed in. This resulted in a number of "episode 1 event reveals true world!" type stories to be tagged Fantasy when colloquially they're often more referred to as Supernatural.
To address this, we've moved to more of a setting and power-based approach. In its most basic form, the new definitions are:
- High Fantasy (constructed world with magic) → Fantasy
- Low Fantasy (our world without magic) → Supernatural
However, there are many stories that exist in the "middle" of these two, such as stories set in our world with magic, or stories set in constructed worlds that resemble Earth/are alternate histories of Earth. To allow true "High Fantasy" to be separated from these "middle" Fantasy stories using the Advanced Search, we've created a new Urban Fantasy theme.
Super Power
While writing the new definitions for the above, Super Power was also discussed and now has a definition.
Boys Love/Girls Love
Expanded the definition (with more words) to make the explicit genre sections more clear. The meaning behind the definitions themselves remain unchanged.
Romantic Subtext → Love Status Quo
With the popularization of 'Teasing' manga and Twitter manga, a recent and common trend in manga is to feature a couple that experiences frequent cute, blushy, and/or fluffy moments in a mundane setting to make the reader go "kyun" while reading every chapter. Since the emphasis is on teasing a reaction from the audience, these cute interactions are prioritized over other story events that would otherwise deepen or develop the romantic relationship.
This is a type of romantic setup that heavy romance manga readers can either really like or really dislike. Similar to love triangle or harem, these readers would prefer to know this setup before going into the story.
Since they don't have a specific name in the fandom, we tried to use Romantic Subtext and not tag these series Romance, similar to Harem series without romantic progression. However, the name Romantic Subtext is easily confused with Romantic Subplot, and not tagging these series Romance created a debate of "so this isn't good enough to be labelled romance?" It also began to be applied to other series which also had romantic undertones without romantic progression, rather than the types of series it was originally created for.
To address this:
- The definition has been completely re-written to try and restrict it to these specific types of stories.
- After re-defining it, we settled on a new name, "Love Status Quo."
- Like Love Polygon, all series tagged Love Status Quo will also have the Romance tag.
Villainess (Anime)
More and more villainess anime have been receiving adaptations in the last two years, so we've added this tag on the anime-side as well now.
Our previous definition was derived from literary works and focused more on the main cast's perception of the world, versus the setting the story was placed in. This resulted in a number of "episode 1 event reveals true world!" type stories to be tagged Fantasy when colloquially they're often more referred to as Supernatural.
To address this, we've moved to more of a setting and power-based approach. In its most basic form, the new definitions are:
- High Fantasy (constructed world with magic) → Fantasy
- Low Fantasy (our world without magic) → Supernatural
However, there are many stories that exist in the "middle" of these two, such as stories set in our world with magic, or stories set in constructed worlds that resemble Earth/are alternate histories of Earth. To allow true "High Fantasy" to be separated from these "middle" Fantasy stories using the Advanced Search, we've created a new Urban Fantasy theme.
Super Power
While writing the new definitions for the above, Super Power was also discussed and now has a definition.
Boys Love/Girls Love
Expanded the definition (with more words) to make the explicit genre sections more clear. The meaning behind the definitions themselves remain unchanged.
Romantic Subtext → Love Status Quo
With the popularization of 'Teasing' manga and Twitter manga, a recent and common trend in manga is to feature a couple that experiences frequent cute, blushy, and/or fluffy moments in a mundane setting to make the reader go "kyun" while reading every chapter. Since the emphasis is on teasing a reaction from the audience, these cute interactions are prioritized over other story events that would otherwise deepen or develop the romantic relationship.
This is a type of romantic setup that heavy romance manga readers can either really like or really dislike. Similar to love triangle or harem, these readers would prefer to know this setup before going into the story.
Since they don't have a specific name in the fandom, we tried to use Romantic Subtext and not tag these series Romance, similar to Harem series without romantic progression. However, the name Romantic Subtext is easily confused with Romantic Subplot, and not tagging these series Romance created a debate of "so this isn't good enough to be labelled romance?" It also began to be applied to other series which also had romantic undertones without romantic progression, rather than the types of series it was originally created for.
To address this:
- The definition has been completely re-written to try and restrict it to these specific types of stories.
- After re-defining it, we settled on a new name, "Love Status Quo."
- Like Love Polygon, all series tagged Love Status Quo will also have the Romance tag.
Villainess (Anime)
More and more villainess anime have been receiving adaptations in the last two years, so we've added this tag on the anime-side as well now.
Kineta said: Our previous definition was derived from literary works and focused more on the main cast's perception of the world, versus the setting the story was placed in. This resulted in a number of "episode 1 event reveals true world!" type stories to be tagged Fantasy when colloquially they're often more referred to as Supernatural. Word salad. Kineta said: Low Fantasy (our world without magic) → Supernatural How can a story with no magic set in our world be fantasy or supernatural? K-On is supernatural by this definition. Kineta said: feature a couple that experiences frequent cute, blushy, and/or fluffy moments in a mundane setting to make the reader go "kyun" Kineta said: other series which also had romantic undertones without romantic progression How are these 2 descriptors not the same? Kineta said: - The definition has been completely re-written to try and restrict it to these specific types of stories. - After re-defining it, we settled on a new name, "Love Status Quo." Well you failed. "Romantic undertones without romantic progression" is most definitely status quo. Kineta said: Villainess (Anime) More and more villainess anime have been receiving adaptations in the last two years, so we've added this tag on the anime-side as well now. Yet you neither defined the tag nor gave it an intuitive name. |
LucifrostOct 2, 7:20 PM
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Oct 2, 8:26 PM
#6
Kineta said: Low Fantasy (our world without magic) → Supernatural Your definition of supernatural does not fit the description that people usually associate it with, this can lead to confusion. If it is low fantasy then should it be even fantasy at all? |
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Oct 2, 9:04 PM
#7
The definition given for Love Status Quo seems different enough from the old definition of Romantic Subtext that even if it was good and useful in itself (which is arguable), it's retroactively made a lot of tags nonsensical. The old confusion between Romance and Romantic Subtext was a noteworthy issue with tagging, but this has only made it worse. That wouldn't be so much of an issue if there was quicker responses to the genre request thread, but it seems like nothing ever happens there (at least with manga). I made a post there almost a month ago requesting a theme be added that was already present in the anime version (so seems open-and-shut) and nothing has been done with it. |
Oct 3, 4:39 PM
#8
Who tf is scrolling through thousands of anime updating the genres of each? |
Oct 3, 6:50 PM
#9
Kineta said: However, there are many stories that exist in the "middle" of these two, such as stories set in our world with magic, or stories set in constructed worlds that resemble Earth/are alternate histories of Earth. To allow true "High Fantasy" to be separated from these "middle" Fantasy stories using the Advanced Search, we've created a new Urban Fantasy theme. I have a question about this! Does that mean series with a mahou shoujo theme will generally have their fantasy tags be changed to urban fantasy, such as Sailor Moon? Also, will series that are generally referred to as an "Exorcist series", such as Jujutsu Kaisen lose the supernatural tag in favor of Urban Fantasy? |
Oct 4, 12:14 AM
#10
im neutral on this but "love status quo" is more confusing why not just call it "love tease" since you mention teasing |
Oct 4, 2:07 AM
#11
Oct 4, 6:27 AM
#12
yeah... I know villainess will be included in the new theme because it's already countless in the manga. Now it's just a matter of differentiating for "time travel" will it have a "regression" derivative? worth waiting for! |
Oct 4, 8:00 AM
#13
The app hasn’t been updated in ages but it’s still missing tons of things, I know it’s a small team but can’t we prioritize more important things. In app we can’t manage favorites, can’t search for characters or companies and people, we can’t view other peoples lists in app. Also as the other guys said dark mode for website is a basic feature we need too. I would also love more filters so like on my list I’d like to be able to filter by popularity, average rating, filter by type like movie, OVA, TV and many other filters. App should be priority tho as it’s still missing so much. On a side note favorite openings/endings and songs I’d love too but I know that’s asking for too much😂 |
Please stop, I don’t want to see any more Dekugo😭 |
Oct 4, 8:23 AM
#14
It's hard to me to see the difference between supernatural and urban fantasy in their definitions. They both seem to essentially mean "A story with supernatural/fantastical elements that is set in a world similar to our own." However, I don't know what exact the difference is between "supernatural elements" and "fantastical elements." This thread makes it seem that "magic" is the differentiating factor, but what is magic exactly? Based on the current tags, it seems like Chainsaw Man is fantasy and Jujutsu Kaisen is supernatural. However, if anything, I feel like JJK has more magic than CSM. I think that magic has to be better defined. |
Oct 4, 8:53 PM
#15
Will "悪役令嬢: akuyaku reijo" type works be uniformly assigned to the "Villain/Villainess" theme? -- The protagonist is a young, glamorous daughter of a prestigious family. She plays the role of a powerful rival who bullies and prevents the activities of the other girl, who is lovely, kind, but underprivileged, and would have been the heroine in a conventional tale. Not only alters the end of the romance, but she is also going to manipulate the world, then, updating the all-too-common given plot (what could have been her destiny). I think that common sense recognizes them as a distinctive subgroup in "Romantic Comedy." In addition, the majority of the works would overlap with "Fantasy" or "History" because of the choice of backgrounds that can easily install extreme disparities. Apart from that, I would like to see a strict distinction between "Isekai" and "Tensei / reincarnation." "異世界: isekai / other world" could generally be replaced by "Fantasy" or something that fits better. A story in which a person who died somewhere isolated from our civilization is reborn somewhere isolated from our civilization would be "reincarnation" by definition, but it is too otherworldly for me to categorize it as "Tensei". |
aReviewerOct 4, 9:12 PM
Oct 5, 5:11 AM
#16
Reply to _cjessop19_
@_cjessop19_ I double this! I also made the suggestion when they were working on the themes. We have some themes with less than a 100 animes, even with less than 50. I think we could use a zombie theme by now. |
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Oct 5, 1:00 PM
#18
Do people who made the change even watch Anime? Why such things like Neverland or Kabaneri listed as Urban Fantasy while Kara no Kyoukai series isn't? |
Oct 6, 3:59 AM
#20
Reply to fluffycow17
It's hard to me to see the difference between supernatural and urban fantasy in their definitions. They both seem to essentially mean "A story with supernatural/fantastical elements that is set in a world similar to our own." However, I don't know what exact the difference is between "supernatural elements" and "fantastical elements." This thread makes it seem that "magic" is the differentiating factor, but what is magic exactly? Based on the current tags, it seems like Chainsaw Man is fantasy and Jujutsu Kaisen is supernatural. However, if anything, I feel like JJK has more magic than CSM. I think that magic has to be better defined.
@fluffycow17 the differentiating factor seems to be based on how popular and known the "magic" is in their world. I like it, no more pseudo fantasies when searching for fantasy stories. |
Oct 6, 7:44 AM
#21
Reply to Calabre006
Kineta said:
However, there are many stories that exist in the "middle" of these two, such as stories set in our world with magic, or stories set in constructed worlds that resemble Earth/are alternate histories of Earth. To allow true "High Fantasy" to be separated from these "middle" Fantasy stories using the Advanced Search, we've created a new Urban Fantasy theme.
However, there are many stories that exist in the "middle" of these two, such as stories set in our world with magic, or stories set in constructed worlds that resemble Earth/are alternate histories of Earth. To allow true "High Fantasy" to be separated from these "middle" Fantasy stories using the Advanced Search, we've created a new Urban Fantasy theme.
I have a question about this! Does that mean series with a mahou shoujo theme will generally have their fantasy tags be changed to urban fantasy, such as Sailor Moon? Also, will series that are generally referred to as an "Exorcist series", such as Jujutsu Kaisen lose the supernatural tag in favor of Urban Fantasy?
@Calabre006 I don't think the supernatural tag will be removed from any anime, since it is a "genre." The other tags you mentioned are all "themes." |
その目だれの目? |
Oct 6, 11:38 PM
#22
Now if we could only get "Love Status Quo" added to all the Yuri/GL on this site that's just bait. Bait is heinous and needs to come with a warning. |
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Oct 7, 5:31 AM
#23
Reply to Ranxomare
Isekai could even have subgenres! ;)
@Ranxomare it kinda does with Reincarnation and Villainess |
Oct 7, 5:42 AM
#24
Oct 7, 12:08 PM
#25
I don't use genres or themes to search/filter anime but I use the tagged genre/theme implied content information to decide if I'll watch a show or not. And 2 years later, the major 'problems' are still there: - Music being listed as a Theme; Seriously? It's probably one of the most clearly defined genres you have out there. I know that at some higher pseudo-intellectual level, there are discussions on if 'music' (or musicals) is or isn't an actual genre but let's focus on reality. Music or musical movies/shows are one of the most consistent groups you can get. The music part is always there and, in a lot of these shows, music is present in almost every single episode. Even when there's more (or much more) in the story than just music, like Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, again, music is there linking every piece of the show. As a genre, it's pretty obvious that there's nothing 'above' music or, in other words, music is not a sub-genre or theme or any part of any other thing. But Idols (male or female), and some Showbiz or Performing Arts - all of these proper themes - but especially Idols, fit inside the Music genre. And if I go by one of your criteria (number of anime) well, it's pretty obvious music is one of the 'big sharks' in the room. - Award Winning listed as a Genre; How do explain my point here... ah, easy. Genre and Themes give you information about the contents of a show. Award Winning doesn't tell you anything about the shows. The show only won some kind of award but it can be 'the best drama of all time', 'the best sci-fi of the year', 'anime of the year' or even an Oscar for 'the best Animation', etc. I said it back then and I'll say it again. Award Winning would be (and is) a great filter but nothing more... Just like the demographic filters (also not genres) where you could fit all of those inside a 'box'. - Mecha listed as a Theme; This one is a little more difficult and I'll drop the 'major' for this one. However, in 2023/2024, NHK Japan produced a documentary about anime and manga and one of the episodes was dedicated to Mecha anime alone (other episodes focused on Mecha manga or popular Mecha shows as well). And, surprise or not, the actual source from where 'anime' comes always stated Mecha as a clear, specific and defined genre inside which we had different thematics (themes), like police, space, races, etc. And it wasn't just NHK or the fans saying it. The people actually working and producing anime always refer to Mecha as a fully specific genre. And just like music, the Mecha group is also pretty consistent - Well, it's quite obvious if the story is about robots or some kind of mechanical vehicles piloted by humans (or aliens). So, it seems you're only trying to define the different 'greys' inside the grey areas naturally generated when you have a +30k-entry database - which is good over time - when if you just adjusted 2 or 3 things that several of us in the community mentioned right from the start, the main picture would be much more consistent. |
Oct 7, 10:20 PM
#26
I can understanding adding new genres & themes but who's complaining about ones that already exist? Surely renaming existing ones is more confusing because 95% of people will just think you've removed them This feels like another one of those changes that the MAL admins want but the community never asked for just like the Related Anime/Manga Section Changes |
ratchet-0417Oct 7, 10:25 PM
Oct 8, 6:57 AM
#27
Reply to mottoANIME
I don't use genres or themes to search/filter anime but I use the tagged genre/theme implied content information to decide if I'll watch a show or not.
And 2 years later, the major 'problems' are still there:
- Music being listed as a Theme;
Seriously? It's probably one of the most clearly defined genres you have out there.
I know that at some higher pseudo-intellectual level, there are discussions on if 'music' (or musicals) is or isn't an actual genre but let's focus on reality.
Music or musical movies/shows are one of the most consistent groups you can get. The music part is always there and, in a lot of these shows, music is present in almost every single episode. Even when there's more (or much more) in the story than just music, like Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, again, music is there linking every piece of the show.
As a genre, it's pretty obvious that there's nothing 'above' music or, in other words, music is not a sub-genre or theme or any part of any other thing.
But Idols (male or female), and some Showbiz or Performing Arts - all of these proper themes - but especially Idols, fit inside the Music genre.
And if I go by one of your criteria (number of anime) well, it's pretty obvious music is one of the 'big sharks' in the room.
- Award Winning listed as a Genre;
How do explain my point here... ah, easy. Genre and Themes give you information about the contents of a show.
Award Winning doesn't tell you anything about the shows. The show only won some kind of award but it can be 'the best drama of all time', 'the best sci-fi of the year', 'anime of the year' or even an Oscar for 'the best Animation', etc.
I said it back then and I'll say it again. Award Winning would be (and is) a great filter but nothing more... Just like the demographic filters (also not genres) where you could fit all of those inside a 'box'.
- Mecha listed as a Theme;
This one is a little more difficult and I'll drop the 'major' for this one.
However, in 2023/2024, NHK Japan produced a documentary about anime and manga and one of the episodes was dedicated to Mecha anime alone (other episodes focused on Mecha manga or popular Mecha shows as well).
And, surprise or not, the actual source from where 'anime' comes always stated Mecha as a clear, specific and defined genre inside which we had different thematics (themes), like police, space, races, etc. And it wasn't just NHK or the fans saying it. The people actually working and producing anime always refer to Mecha as a fully specific genre.
And just like music, the Mecha group is also pretty consistent - Well, it's quite obvious if the story is about robots or some kind of mechanical vehicles piloted by humans (or aliens).
So, it seems you're only trying to define the different 'greys' inside the grey areas naturally generated when you have a +30k-entry database - which is good over time - when if you just adjusted 2 or 3 things that several of us in the community mentioned right from the start, the main picture would be much more consistent.
And 2 years later, the major 'problems' are still there:
- Music being listed as a Theme;
Seriously? It's probably one of the most clearly defined genres you have out there.
I know that at some higher pseudo-intellectual level, there are discussions on if 'music' (or musicals) is or isn't an actual genre but let's focus on reality.
Music or musical movies/shows are one of the most consistent groups you can get. The music part is always there and, in a lot of these shows, music is present in almost every single episode. Even when there's more (or much more) in the story than just music, like Shigatsu wa Kimi no Uso, again, music is there linking every piece of the show.
As a genre, it's pretty obvious that there's nothing 'above' music or, in other words, music is not a sub-genre or theme or any part of any other thing.
But Idols (male or female), and some Showbiz or Performing Arts - all of these proper themes - but especially Idols, fit inside the Music genre.
And if I go by one of your criteria (number of anime) well, it's pretty obvious music is one of the 'big sharks' in the room.
- Award Winning listed as a Genre;
How do explain my point here... ah, easy. Genre and Themes give you information about the contents of a show.
Award Winning doesn't tell you anything about the shows. The show only won some kind of award but it can be 'the best drama of all time', 'the best sci-fi of the year', 'anime of the year' or even an Oscar for 'the best Animation', etc.
I said it back then and I'll say it again. Award Winning would be (and is) a great filter but nothing more... Just like the demographic filters (also not genres) where you could fit all of those inside a 'box'.
- Mecha listed as a Theme;
This one is a little more difficult and I'll drop the 'major' for this one.
However, in 2023/2024, NHK Japan produced a documentary about anime and manga and one of the episodes was dedicated to Mecha anime alone (other episodes focused on Mecha manga or popular Mecha shows as well).
And, surprise or not, the actual source from where 'anime' comes always stated Mecha as a clear, specific and defined genre inside which we had different thematics (themes), like police, space, races, etc. And it wasn't just NHK or the fans saying it. The people actually working and producing anime always refer to Mecha as a fully specific genre.
And just like music, the Mecha group is also pretty consistent - Well, it's quite obvious if the story is about robots or some kind of mechanical vehicles piloted by humans (or aliens).
So, it seems you're only trying to define the different 'greys' inside the grey areas naturally generated when you have a +30k-entry database - which is good over time - when if you just adjusted 2 or 3 things that several of us in the community mentioned right from the start, the main picture would be much more consistent.
mottoANIME said: - Award Winning listed as a Genre; How do explain my point here... ah, easy. Genre and Themes give you information about the contents of a show. Award Winning doesn't tell you anything about the shows. The show only won some kind of award but it can be 'the best drama of all time', 'the best sci-fi of the year', 'anime of the year' or even an Oscar for 'the best Animation', etc. I said it back then and I'll say it again. Award Winning would be (and is) a great filter but nothing more... Just like the demographic filters (also not genres) where you could fit all of those inside a 'box'. That's been explained. Genres are determined by mods, while themes are meant to be determined by users in the future. Mods do not want to give up control of the award winning tag. |
その目だれの目? |
Oct 8, 6:36 PM
#28
What does "Love Status Quo" even mean? "Normal Love"? 'cause that's the first thing I think when I read that name... |
Oct 8, 9:43 PM
#29
Reply to Lucifrost
@Calabre006
I don't think the supernatural tag will be removed from any anime, since it is a "genre." The other tags you mentioned are all "themes."
I don't think the supernatural tag will be removed from any anime, since it is a "genre." The other tags you mentioned are all "themes."
@Lucifrost I hope so. The thing is that if you change Supernatural for Low Fantasy that wouldn't make any sense. I mean, what the hell does Low Fantasy have to do with Supernatural? I remember that they changed Dementia for Avant Garden and the truth is that no one liked it. It is also seen on websites such as AniList, Anime-planet, which makes use of Urban Fantasy without leaving Fantasy aside. |
Oct 8, 9:52 PM
#30
Hello, I would like to know the following:
Are these 3 genres going to replace or are they going to be added as a theme? I have that doubt. I ask you why it wouldn't make sense to change Genres like Fantasy or Supernatural, for something that seems to me to have no relevance. From my point of view those from Low, High and Urban Fantasy would serve as themes but substitution would already be making a mistake. |
Oct 8, 10:11 PM
#31
This is what wikipedia says about Urban Fantasy Urban fantasy is a subgenre of fantasy in which the narrative takes place in an urban setting. Urban fantasy works are mainly set in the real world and contain aspects of fantasy, such as the arrival of alien races, the discovery of mythological creatures, the coexistence or conflict between humans and paranormal beings, and other drastic changes in the lives of a city. I mean, if you put this subgenre of Fantasy, anime like: - Urusei Yatsura (Lum is an alien and comes to earth) - Cop Craft (beings from other worlds come to visit the planet) I don't know if GATE could be part of this genre. among others, it would be part of that genre |
Oct 9, 8:37 AM
#32
Reply to Lucifrost
mottoANIME said:
- Award Winning listed as a Genre;
How do explain my point here... ah, easy. Genre and Themes give you information about the contents of a show.
Award Winning doesn't tell you anything about the shows. The show only won some kind of award but it can be 'the best drama of all time', 'the best sci-fi of the year', 'anime of the year' or even an Oscar for 'the best Animation', etc.
I said it back then and I'll say it again. Award Winning would be (and is) a great filter but nothing more... Just like the demographic filters (also not genres) where you could fit all of those inside a 'box'.
- Award Winning listed as a Genre;
How do explain my point here... ah, easy. Genre and Themes give you information about the contents of a show.
Award Winning doesn't tell you anything about the shows. The show only won some kind of award but it can be 'the best drama of all time', 'the best sci-fi of the year', 'anime of the year' or even an Oscar for 'the best Animation', etc.
I said it back then and I'll say it again. Award Winning would be (and is) a great filter but nothing more... Just like the demographic filters (also not genres) where you could fit all of those inside a 'box'.
That's been explained. Genres are determined by mods, while themes are meant to be determined by users in the future. Mods do not want to give up control of the award winning tag.
@Lucifrost How your comment changes what he said? Seriously asking. The award winning tag is only useful to search things, not to help you understand what the x manga, anime etc is about therefore it is practically useless. And this tag is even more useless if you think about the fact that stacks exists on this website and we already know it has won award from the Background section. |
YubisoftOct 9, 8:41 AM
Oct 9, 9:08 AM
#33
Reply to Yubisoft
@Lucifrost How your comment changes what he said? Seriously asking. The award winning tag is only useful to search things, not to help you understand what the x manga, anime etc is about therefore it is practically useless. And this tag is even more useless if you think about the fact that stacks exists on this website and we already know it has won award from the Background section.
@Yubisoft good to give you a simple answer regarding the Award Winning genre. It is used more to facilitate the work of the people who do anime challenges on these sites since there is a category that says: Watch an anime that has won an award. In my opinion, it is not a useless genre as they say above, but it can help us all to know which anime won an award. To give you an example: I have a friend who didn't know that anime movies could win an Oscar. I literally didn't know that Spirited Away had won an Oscar like The Boy and the Heron |
Oct 9, 11:04 PM
#34
Interesting |
Oct 15, 1:16 AM
#36
deg said: im neutral on this but "love status quo" is more confusing why not just call it "love tease" since you mention teasing I agree, Love Tease would be more descriptive, took me a minute to understand the status quo thing. And that type of manga really does feel like teasing, you want something to happen but no, the characters just blush and shy away. And I agree with @_cjessop19_ and @AchromaticRaven - we do need a Zombies theme! |
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Oct 15, 5:07 AM
#37
Can I make a suggestion? Can you please change the theme name of Mahou Shoujo to Magical Girls? It just sounds more easy and from what I can gather it's english name is more used & referred to as, in the community |
Oct 15, 7:00 AM
#38
Reply to Una_Sama89
Can I make a suggestion? Can you please change the theme name of Mahou Shoujo to Magical Girls? It just sounds more easy and from what I can gather it's english name is more used & referred to as, in the community
@Una_Sama89 they would probably want to also change Iyashikei, Isekai, and maybe some others to English alternatives for consistency, but some of them do not have an English alternative, so I think they'd prefer not to |
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Oct 16, 5:06 AM
#39
Reply to Kikugi
@Una_Sama89 they would probably want to also change Iyashikei, Isekai, and maybe some others to English alternatives for consistency, but some of them do not have an English alternative, so I think they'd prefer not to
@Kikugi that's a very good point, I understand now. Definitely think that Iyashikei should be next in line for a definition. I guess if I had to make another suggestion, do you think that Yuri & Yaoi should also be edible to be added under "Love Status Quo" when it fits the bill? (also I could've sworn I saw a theme that said something like "romance subplot") |
Oct 16, 6:08 PM
#40
I honesty don't understand why you guys are considering in changing this once again. I didn't liked when you tried it the first time and I will not like it with this attempt. It was fine before the previous attempt in redefining these tags. Please do something else more productive with the site. |
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Oct 16, 6:58 PM
#41
Reply to Timz0r
I honesty don't understand why you guys are considering in changing this once again. I didn't liked when you tried it the first time and I will not like it with this attempt. It was fine before the previous attempt in redefining these tags. Please do something else more productive with the site.
@Timz0r Why settle for just fine when improvements are continually able to be made? Providing MAL with constructive feedback would be much more worthwhile rather than providing this insubstantial feedback. As minor as these changes may appear in the overall perspective, it is essential to not overlook them. The combined improvement on minor and major detail are what really enhance an anime cataloguing platform. |
Oct 17, 11:19 AM
#42
Can you please add the option to choose English titles over Japanese |
Oct 19, 9:51 AM
#43
@Kineta, Maybe for Manga the "Love Status Quo" tag makes sense but I think it should be a manga only tag and it would make more sense to just keep Romantic Subtext for anime because as others said it's more useful as it's a more clearly defined genre. Also there aren't many anime adaptations of "Love Status Quo" manga as the number of anime tagged being only in the 40s proves. |
KristiwazhereOct 19, 9:58 AM
Oct 21, 11:59 AM
#44
Can we PLEASE have the option to edit or suggest edit to genres and themes? Why would you allow peopke to edit everything except the truly important tags that ara constantly incorrect and annoy users the most! Let us suggest edits for these and if you're afraid of people trolling or abusing the system, just permaban them. |
Oct 21, 4:57 PM
#45
“Super Hero” is a category that should be included to the entry topics: As, far as I am aware, the level of suggested anime to group within this genre is significantly greater than a dozen entries; there are also many super hero anime out there that would potentially interest people and thus believe that super hero could be a justified realm of anime to add for the genre/theme (search) community. |
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