| Imagine claiming something is more adult than another just because it is tagged with "Seinen" when the lines are already blurred and always had been. Both "genres" have its fair share of deep, mundane, braindead series. There are no difference. Also, the target audience for both are still young men. Meaning the two terms are just synonyms. |
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| How are you able to keep making banger threads like these? |
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| No look: 少年 青年 Totally different. Although 青 can actually sound the same as 少 in some cases (not these words) because japanese is weird but even that reading was different some years ago. Compare pre 1940s orthography しやうfor 青 and せう for 少. |
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| i agree they're both trash. This is why i prefer josei to these. |
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ChouunShiryuu said: Ah, I can see why you restrict your list. i agree they're both trash. This is why i prefer josei to these. |
| If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
| Your honor, by the law of sex equality I therefore conclude that lolis are the same as JKs, the defense rests. |
LostSpectre said: ChouunShiryuu said: Ah, I can see why you restrict your list. i agree they're both trash. This is why i prefer josei to these. I feel a clear lack of trust here #hurt&offended |
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| I'm actually impressed by your ability to conjure up such threads. |
| huh tbh im just innit for the hentai. |
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| They aren't literally the same since it's a matter of semantics, but if you mean that "the majority of manga that became successful in a shounen magazine, could have been successful also if they had been published in a seinen one instead", that's very true. The opposite is a bit harder since some CGDCT are seinen. |
NirinboOct 25, 2022 8:21 AM
Nirinbo said: They aren't literally the same since it's a matter of semantics, but if you mean that "the majority of manga that became successful in a shounen magazine, could have been successful also if they had been published in a seinen one instead", that's very true. The opposite is a bit harder since some CGDCT are seinen. This, I'm just going to +1 on this guy's response. |
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| I am pretty sure than seinen magazines cost more because they are intended for young men, sure boys can read seinen but it's japan, they rarely use pirated sites in principle you are right but still, these are legit demographics to segment the audience, you will rarely see nipples in shounen (tehn again, look at ohtaka shinobu manga, she blesses us with nipples since sumomomo) but you will always see nipples in seinen |
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| One's intended to be read and watched by teenagers, the other is intended to be read and watched by young adults. There's no need to overcomplicate things. |
ChouunShiryuu said: i agree they're both trash. This is why i prefer josei to these. Neither your avatar or signature are josei. |
I may make you feel but I can't make you think.  |
| "Shounen and Seinen are the Same EXACT Thing" Monster and Legend Of the Galactic Heroes disagree - a battle shounen fan wouldn't touch those even with a ten-foot pole. |
alshu said: monster is pretty popular among battle shounen fan"Shounen and Seinen are the Same EXACT Thing" Monster and Legend Of the Galactic Heroes disagree - a battle shounen fan wouldn't touch those even with a ten-foot pole. |
DeOnePieceIsReal said: monster is pretty popular among battle shounen fan Not really. Monster is only beloved by elitists...who actually dislike it, but pretend to look more sophisticated. |
nevbolp said: alshu said: Not really. Monster is only beloved by elitists...who actually dislike it, but pretend to look more sophisticated. I see you are talking about yourself as if someone else. All of the sudden I am accused of linking Monster? Or even of pretending to like it? |
| Imagine arguing about wether monster are good or great. Anyway, why watching shonen and seinen when you can watch hentai? |
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| Seinen has more loli and CGDCT shows, therefore it's much better. Don't care for fake seinen which is just shounen but darker, real men like lolis. |
| That's what I used to think before, but then I watched more anime and realized I was way off.. |
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LoveScope said: ChouunShiryuu said: i agree they're both trash. This is why i prefer josei to these. Neither your avatar or signature are josei. i am a bit shy about the whole thing...   |
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| Sir I know your argument, but that does not keep you safe from the FBI from assaulting a 14 year old boy. |
| MOKUSHI KUSHIMO SHIMOKU KUMOSHI MOSHIKU SHIKUMO. |
| They are both in fact different cause Seinen doesn't just mean the series is "more adult" alshu said: Some people (lots) funnily enough do like it, maybe idk, get over it? 🤷DeOnePieceIsReal said: monster is pretty popular among battle shounen fan Not really. Monster is only beloved by elitists...who actually dislike it, but pretend to look more sophisticated. |
  『ᴅᴇᴍᴏɴ-ʟɪᴋᴇ ᴊᴜᴅɢᴇ ᴏꜰ ꜰɪʀᴇ』 Then her jaw slackened as she muttered out. [I... am the bi◼️?] ☽ † ☾ - ᴅᴇʟɪᴠᴇʀɪᴇꜱ- ꜱɪɢ ᴍᴀᴅᴇ ʙʏ ʜᴜᴍᴀɴᴛᴡɪɢ |
humantwig said: Some people (lots) funnily enough do like it How do you even know in a society where personal taste doesn't exist: hype, peer pressure, people who gatekeep you while complaining against geatkeeping. humantwig said: get over it? To me it's not a problem, the pressure and the faking is on those guys. |
| Some takes here are wonderful as always |
| Just read hentai dialogues and you will love Shounen and Seinen again. |
Help! I need somebody. Help! Not just anybody. Help! You know I need someone. Helpppppp!  |
alshu said: DeOnePieceIsReal said: monster is pretty popular among battle shounen fan Not really. Monster is only beloved by elitists...who actually dislike it, but pretend to look more sophisticated. This is actually the correct opinion. People with Johan pfp *think* they understand Johan, but in reality they don't because he's way too simple and archetypical to be properly understood. |
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Preachee said: This is actually the correct opinion. Wait, but I was joking...more of a parody how people see the so called elitists. |
| Dude, I don't really care either way. I'm just in this for the big dumb fights and the boobage and the occasional giant robots. |
FanofActionOct 27, 2022 9:09 AM
| Yes Dravegard, Berserk and Naruto are made for the same exact public Nice bait btw |
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| Something like Gunnm probably stands somewhere in the middle, blurring the lines between shonen and seinen. But on the other hand... Digimon is not Undercurrent, and vice-versa. Pretty sure your average 30yo is not going to be super attracted to Digimon, and I'm sure 6yo me would have thought Undercurrent was a really boring manga (Some woman who runs a public bath and looks for her missing husband? That's it? boooooring.). So no, seinen =/= shonen. That seemed kinda obvious. Now, the seinen that get adapted into anime... Yeah, I can see why you'd think that. Truth is, the more adult seinens just don't get adaptations. |
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I mean, they both have characters carrying around over-sized weapons and feature some kind of supernatural elements with mcs who both want to get stronger to protect someone or something. Totally the same thing. Just like BoJack Horseman and My Little Pony are the exact same because both feature talking horses. |
alshu said: Preachee said: This is actually the correct opinion. Wait, but I was joking...more of a parody how people see the so called elitists. Yeah no shit you were joking :D But ig it doesn't matter |
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| the only difference that comes to mind is that seinen will not have school as a focus (might be wrong), unless you consider college is school as well. |
alshu said: DeOnePieceIsReal said: monster is pretty popular among battle shounen fan Not really. Monster is only beloved by elitists...who actually dislike it, but pretend to look more sophisticated. Joking or not, it's ironic that this anime went from "elitist" anime (10 years ago) to "if you like it, high chance you are a battle shounen fan". At least that's how it strikes me as now. |
Edocchi said: if you like it, high chance you are a battle shounen fan Maybe it has to do with horrible tricks like "the minute Monster gets interesting the focus changes to a characters you don't care in this moment" and "lets put our flashbacks right in the middle of the most intense scenes in the present". Those happen a lot in battle shounen too. |
| Shonen is for boys 6-16. Seinen is for young adults and adults. The crossover is usually when you cease to be a cherry boys and take an interest in women and you would cringe at showing them MHA or dragonball, but wouldn't cringe at showing them Hinamatsuri or Grand Blue. i can only assume the OP hasn't passed that point yet. |
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Edocchi said: alshu said: Not really. Monster is only beloved by elitists...who actually dislike it, but pretend to look more sophisticated. Joking or not, it's ironic that this anime went from "elitist" anime (10 years ago) to "if you like it, high chance you are a battle shounen fan". At least that's how it strikes me as now. I swallowed the whole elitist starter pack thing, and Monster is probably the first show I spat back in the plate. No idea why anyone praises this as a literary masterpiece. It struck me as having particularly simple and not very credible characters, a very thin varnish of "bro it's so deep" themes, and an uncohesive, repetitive, and boring narration plagued by the same 2-3 gimmicks over and over again. While I can vaguely understand the comparison between Monster and Berserk, the former looks like a parody of the latter to me. Which I'm totally blaming on Urasawa. Pluto was a great manga, but 2 more volumes and I was 4/10ing it out of spite for Urasawa's dreadful "style" |
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alshu said: you don't understand what @Edocchi or me trying to say. it has nothing to do with whatever you are saying, it's just that shounen fans now days prefer mainstream seinen like monster and other so-called elitist anime like nge, logh, ghost in the shell..... you won't believe it ,but it's trueEdocchi said: if you like it, high chance you are a battle shounen fan Maybe it has to do with horrible tricks like "the minute Monster gets interesting the focus changes to a characters you don't care in this moment" and "lets put our flashbacks right in the middle of the most intense scenes in the present". Those happen a lot in battle shounen too. |
DeOnePieceIsReal said: it's just that shounen fans now days prefer mainstream seinen Thus they automatically stop being shounen fans and become omnivore fans...like the actual normal norime, DeOnePieceIsReal said: you won't believe it ,but it's true I am not sure what you are trying to say tho, isn't exploring multiple things the natural path? Why doing what you are supposed to do in the first place a source of such pride? |
| they are both demographics and for manga the demographics are irrelevant so you have some point like K-ON and Kaguya Love is War are Seinen |
| I've always said that the only difference between them is the name of the magazine they run in. Everything about them can be funtionally identicle. Demographics don't actually matter. The subject matter and execution of both can be anything. |
| Oh wow, I trust myself to not listen to an avid hentai enjoyer. |
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