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Mar 12, 2021 9:59 AM
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The whole chapter they tried to make Deku understand that he needs to kill Shigaraki but instead they were made understood that Shigaraki can be saved. I mean we all knew he won't kill him so whatever.

Also that last panel, one of the OFA user had spiky hair like Bakugo. Bakugo's ancestor perhaps?
Mar 12, 2021 10:08 AM
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lol they are just testing Deku if he will choose to save or kill Shigaraki huh they know well enough for sure that Deku will try to save Shigaraki

and wow those 2 quirk users are ashamed to face Deku or what lol lets see what quirks they have to help Deku fight
Mar 12, 2021 10:16 AM
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lol they are just testing Deku if he will choose to save or kill Shigaraki huh they know well enough for sure that Deku will try to save Shigaraki
Yes I know that it was a test, Nana literaly said she was testing him but had to make this joke lol.
Mar 12, 2021 10:48 AM
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Eeeh, honestly even though it was obvious since that panel of Deku saying to Shigaraki that he will save him I can't help but think that it will feel... unsatisfied maybe? When it happens. No way Shigaraki will be forgiven for all the people killed, right?
I don't know, let's see how it will play out, there's still a long way till that, I think.
Mar 12, 2021 10:56 AM
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Eeeh, honestly even though it was obvious since that panel of Deku saying to Shigaraki that he will save him I can't help but think that it will feel... unsatisfied maybe? When it happens. No way Shigaraki will be forgiven for all the people killed, right?
I don't know, let's see how it will play out.


Yeah am pretty sure that shiggy will not be forgiven for all the things he did... And deku saying, "I will kill him" isn't the right answer either which is why am glad he didn't say that.... Honesty, it just proves why deku is the perfect person for this role cuz he's always been the person who doesn't give up when his feeling of saving is greater than winning! Bcuz that's where the hero society failed which led to the creation of the LOV.... Am super excited to see where this goes!!
Mar 12, 2021 11:11 AM
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I thought that someone might say that "Ew, ThAt's TaLK No JuTsu, so lame" but thank god that no one said it. Deku fought the villains who have already been beyond the point of saving but his fight with Gentle showed him that he should have fought the reason of why they became villains. Looks like we will see that side of the quirk society which is prejudiced and it might have a mental impact on Deku. The page where lil Deku was reaching out for crying Shiggy was impactful. Nana crying over that Deku will save his grandson shows that she loves her family and she regrets of letting them go. I m pretty sure that 2nd and 3rd user wanted to hear Deku wanting to kill Shiggy but Deku priorities saving over winning and he will go to sacrifice himself for others shows that on why he will be the world's greatest hero.
Mar 12, 2021 11:31 AM
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oh wow, deku wants to save him instead who would have figured that out.
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Mar 12, 2021 11:38 AM
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I really love liked deku response tbh perfectly represents his character and the themes of the story.
Now let's see how this plays out.
Mar 12, 2021 12:51 PM
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So how many people have to die before it's just not worth trying to save him anymore.
Mar 12, 2021 2:03 PM
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Let's wait till he kills most citizens of japan till Izuku finally decides to kill him instead.
Mar 12, 2021 4:56 PM
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First of all, the chapter was really good. Still Idk how to feel abt the whole Shigaraki thing, I ca't help but to compare it to Dabi's situation, they are pretty similar and still with Dabi everyone immediately agrred to kill him. However, storywise is the thing that's most in caracter and makes sense, and I'm glad at least some of the hero's immidiate reaction is murder.
I'm really courious abt the new quirks and Deku waiking up!! I'm really intrigued by those two, who won't face Izuku.

Still as a Dabi kinnie I'm pissed and want somone to wake that hole family up. Specially that asshole Endeavor. Natsu is cool thou, kinda
Mar 13, 2021 1:39 AM

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I never had this much hype on the series, what a very nice chapter.

And I presume Deku will eventually use talk no jutsu to Shigaraki, then BOOM character development.


Mar 13, 2021 3:25 AM

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Cool chapter overall
I don't understand how Deku wants to "save" Shigaraki the guy is a killer and far gone ,he isn't like Shoto u can help him with talk🤷‍♂️

The chapter ends with a cliffhanger damn🌚💔
Mar 13, 2021 7:51 AM

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Great chapter, obviously Deku wants to save Shigaraki but it makes sense since he's All Might's disciple. Curious about the two users who refused to join the discussion, sadly One for All lore doesn't come very often so we'll have to wait longer.

Since All for One was introduced in the history I thought he would be the "final boss", a manipulative and powerful villain like him making Tomura a disciple just like All Might did for Deku just wouldn't make much sense.

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Mar 13, 2021 9:02 AM
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i really loved that little "talk moment" from deku. i didn't expect it to make me feel emotional and i don't even know why. it just made appreciate and like him more. saving shiggy doesn't mean he will be forgiven for what he done though. i really hope they don't forgot abt all the ppl he killed.
Mar 13, 2021 10:07 PM

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Finally we'll get to see those other 2 predecessors who have been turned around this whole time.
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Mar 14, 2021 1:22 AM

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the one thing i always hate about shounen animes is the protagonist not wanting to kill the villain after all the shit they've done... its so dumb.

still a good chapter tho lmao. (i really hope the 2nd user isnt Bakugo. i hate that theory)
It is shounen and that is the shounen trope, so it will always come as its side product. MHA does handles the shounen tropes very well.
Mar 14, 2021 9:16 AM

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Of course, Deku doesn't want to kill Shigaraki. In addition to being a Shonen MC, Hori wrote Shigaraki and Deku as parallels to each other. With that said, I wish All for One would be killed.

Nana acknowledging her role in this situation is probably my favorite thing about the chapter. It's ironic how she was the greatest hero of her time yet indirectly created a major villian. (Same with Endeavor and Dabi.)
Mar 14, 2021 2:35 PM
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Mar 14, 2021 2:49 PM

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The best way I can describe this chapter is "Satisfying answer, unsatisfying thought process"

I was totally expecting Deku to answer that, it's perfectly consistent with his character and what the story has been telling so far.

But what prevents me from being totally convinced is the total lack of opposition for the holders, like I could really really get behind Deku's anwser if he was actually challenged about it and if he managed to convinced not only the previous holders, but me as a reader as well. Because what I'm seeing here is a young man being ready to save the dude who almost killed 2 of his mentor and his best friend without even doubting it.

Again, I understood and LIKED what I read, but I just think that such an enormous moment for the story' main character deserved to have more debate surounding it, especially after the incredible Todoroki drama.
Mar 14, 2021 4:12 PM

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Not surprising that Midoriya would prefer to save Shigaraki rather than kill him. Even if it is a little fustratingly naïve.
Mar 14, 2021 8:26 PM

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seems like my comment deleted. lOl. and i said again. this chapter give me exact impression when emma said "i don't want to kill demons".

unnecessarily convoluted way to made main character "holier than thou". i know it's coming, but stull distasteful to see. but oh well....
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Mar 14, 2021 11:36 PM

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The best way I can describe this chapter is "Satisfying answer, unsatisfying thought process"

I was totally expecting Deku to answer that, it's perfectly consistent with his character and what the story has been telling so far.

But what prevents me from being totally convinced is the total lack of opposition for the holders, like I could really really get behind Deku's anwser if he was actually challenged about it and if he managed to convinced not only the previous holders, but me as a reader as well. Because what I'm seeing here is a young man being ready to save the dude who almost killed 2 of his mentor and his best friend without even doubting it.

Again, I understood and LIKED what I read, but I just think that such an enormous moment for the story' main character deserved to have more debate surounding it, especially after the incredible Todoroki drama.
305 was a chapter about resolve...the first eight users had the resolve of defeating AFO but still he came back but now as AFO is using Shiggy's hatred to overcome their resolve of not handing over OFA. Deku decided to use OFA as to protect someone as a resolve to Shiggy's hatred. And if a resolve to save someone is stronger then why would they reject it? Heroes are meant to protect others right and Deku always prioritized saving over winning. Deku himself said that maybe killing him is the only way to stop him but he wants to try saving because that is what All Might taught to his generation and that is what makes a hero "Great" and this is a story of how Deku became the greatest hero of all time.
Mar 14, 2021 11:42 PM

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This is to be expected, Deku has always been like this. And in this kind of society, he is the perfect hero. Deku's main goal is to be able to save Shigaraki, but if he really is beyond saving, then I am sure he'll have no choice but to kill him. That was a really impactful chapter, that panel of little Deku reaching out to little Tenko was great.

Will the 2nd and 3rd users finally cooperate? So those Bak-u-go theories can be finally laid to rest lmao. Really looking forward to the next chapter.
Mar 15, 2021 1:02 AM

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Florent3571 said:
The best way I can describe this chapter is "Satisfying answer, unsatisfying thought process"

I was totally expecting Deku to answer that, it's perfectly consistent with his character and what the story has been telling so far.

But what prevents me from being totally convinced is the total lack of opposition for the holders, like I could really really get behind Deku's anwser if he was actually challenged about it and if he managed to convinced not only the previous holders, but me as a reader as well. Because what I'm seeing here is a young man being ready to save the dude who almost killed 2 of his mentor and his best friend without even doubting it.

Again, I understood and LIKED what I read, but I just think that such an enormous moment for the story' main character deserved to have more debate surounding it, especially after the incredible Todoroki drama.
305 was a chapter about resolve...the first eight users had the resolve of defeating AFO but still he came back but now as AFO is using Shiggy's hatred to overcome their resolve of not handing over OFA. Deku decided to use OFA as to protect someone as a resolve to Shiggy's hatred. And if a resolve to save someone is stronger then why would they reject it? Heroes are meant to protect others right and Deku always prioritized saving over winning. Deku himself said that maybe killing him is the only way to stop him but he wants to try saving because that is what All Might taught to his generation and that is what makes a hero "Great" and this is a story of how Deku became the greatest hero of all time.


In that case, wouldn't some opposition actually make Deku's resolve stronger since he has to defend his ideals ? But overall I hear ya, I thought a lot about the chapter and the more it goes the more I like it.
Mar 15, 2021 4:54 AM

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This chapter is exhibit A For why I love Midoriya. He is just ‘good’ right down to his core and his kindness is so inspiring!

I’m curious about why one of the uncooperative OFA users looks like Bakugou?
Mar 15, 2021 9:31 AM
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Deku needs Shigeraki and vice versa Glad to know Grand Torino is alive
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I wonder, if it comes to a head to head fight where Shigaraki will not back down & Deku will not kill him, I wonder what Bakagou would do?
Because you know he'll be by Deku's side in the battle and I don't see him having the same mentality, he seems like the type who will do what needs to be done no matter how others might perceive his actions.
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Guessing it’s Bakugo and Hawks, given they’re the only ones outside of toshi and gran with an connection/interest in deku’s one for all/they look like them the most. Definitely not one of bakugo’s ancestors since it’s implied he’s going to be assisting deku and there’s been a lot of set up. My guess for Hawks is purely based off context clues/the guy’s design resembling him the most out of anyone who would make sense.
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It would've been different if he would've said that he'd kill him, but he is going to be the very foundation for the new era of true heroes after All Might. Those 2 ancestors, I believe they'll have personal reasons as to why they want to kill AFO whereas the others throughout their first hand experiences of Yagi and Deku say it's better to save him.
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This shit is trash..... Straight outta that Talk no Jutsu notebook. booo 1/5
Mar 18, 2021 12:01 PM

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seems like my comment deleted. lOl. and i said again. this chapter give me exact impression when emma said "i don't want to kill demons".

unnecessarily convoluted way to made main character "holier than thou". i know it's coming, but stull distasteful to see. but oh well....


Klad said:
This shit is trash..... Straight outta that Talk no Jutsu notebook. booo 1/5


+1+1

I'm not against the shounen MC who's trying to save everyone, but fuck was it corny how forced this felt with the intervention set up

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Mar 28, 2021 10:27 PM

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Kuma said:
seems like my comment deleted. lOl. and i said again. this chapter give me exact impression when emma said "i don't want to kill demons".

unnecessarily convoluted way to made main character "holier than thou". i know it's coming, but stull distasteful to see. but oh well....
Klad said:
This shit is trash..... Straight outta that Talk no Jutsu notebook. booo 1/5


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Kuma said:
seems like my comment deleted. lOl. and i said again. this chapter give me exact impression when emma said "i don't want to kill demons".

unnecessarily convoluted way to made main character "holier than thou". i know it's coming, but stull distasteful to see. but oh well....


Klad said:
This shit is trash..... Straight outta that Talk no Jutsu notebook. booo 1/5


+1+1

I'm not against the shounen MC who's trying to save everyone, but fuck was it corny how forced this felt with the intervention set up

Seems like you guys are forgetting this is a battle shounen

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Seems like you guys are forgetting this is a battle shounen
so what if this is battle shounen? aren't MHA was praised for "darker tone", "original" and "realism"? man i hate to have to bring other series, but not even asta from black clover this naïve.
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Scordolo said:
Seems like you guys are forgetting this is a battle shounen
so what if this is battle shounen? aren't MHA was praised for "darker tone", "original" and "realism"? man i hate to have to bring other series, but not even asta from black clover this naïve.

"Darker tone"?Who in the world said it was darker toned?It's just started to get dark.In nowhere near it is dark yet.
Original?Bruh you've gotta be kidding me.Someone lied to you or you are lying to yourself.
One thing I would like to add.Did you even think about that after Deku gives him chances even after that he doesn't listen he would eventually have to kill him?Deku is not the killing type of guy.He just wants to save people.
What do you mean Asta wasn't that Naive compared to Deku?
In the eye of the midnight sun arc Asta forgave the villain who were helping the main villain capturing the children's magic power.
It is similar to Deku's case.He undersood Tomura's past that it was All for one manipulating him all the time.
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Kuma said:
seems like my comment deleted. lOl. and i said again. this chapter give me exact impression when emma said "i don't want to kill demons".

unnecessarily convoluted way to made main character "holier than thou". i know it's coming, but stull distasteful to see. but oh well....


Klad said:
This shit is trash..... Straight outta that Talk no Jutsu notebook. booo 1/5


+1+1

I'm not against the shounen MC who's trying to save everyone, but fuck was it corny how forced this felt with the intervention set up

Seems like you guys are forgetting this is a battle shounen[/quote]

You're missing the point, it's not that Midoriya is trying to save someone I'm having a problem with, it's the execution. If you didn't see how forced this set-up was, then I can't help you.

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Apr 3, 2021 4:06 AM

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Why would anyone want to save Shigaraki? I sure hell wouldn't!

She got him back. If you understand the characters well enough, you'd know she did!
Apr 7, 2022 1:39 AM

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I mean c'mon at this point you should have the balls to kill Shiggy but I guess this is a shounen after all :/

Also, did Deku just say he didn't feel like there was any good in the other villains he faced?!? Like literally any major villain he faced (other than Muscular cause he's just out for blood) had more going on than Shiggy. Overhaul and Gentle were great villains but their means were wrong. But Shiggy just did tons of more damage than both of them combined and still gets more sympathy than them?

Why does the second wielder have Bakugou-like hair?
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I understand why people might not like this.

I personally, don't mind.
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Two new powers waiting a Deku!!! kekeke
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Shit like this is why this can never be anything more than a stupid childrens comic. Deku is a dumb ignorant bitch.

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