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Mar 7, 2021 3:50 PM

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Damn, this is actually looking pretty based. Hamtaro's spiritual successor has at last risen.
Mar 7, 2021 3:51 PM

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z00nex said:
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Define fun? Does it deserve a higher aggregate rating then the ones I mentioned- and a plethora of ones I didnt? Gantz was a fun show. Wouldn't expect to see it higher than those shows either. High School of the Dead was fun too. Not being hostile i'm asking.
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I don't understand the point you're making though. My point is that show is superbly overrated, and you present more evidence corroborating my case.
Topic is "MAL has officially lost the plot" and I'm saying that it's not some random ratings on MAL, it's a generally liked show. My definition of fun is how much I enjoy watching those shows. To be honest, I enjoy Pui Pui Molcar more than I did Katanagatari. Even though I liked Katanagatari, 40 minutes long episodes were hell.


The themes Katanagatari was exploring and nature of the series (12 episodes to recover 12 swords) kind of required the 40 minute episodes as well as to develop the character chemistry between Togame and Shichika - culminating with Eps 11 and 12 which are 2 of the best consecutive episodes of anime of all time.

CHEERIO~

What themes does Pui Pui Molcar explore. Wash you car? LMAO.

I know its a generally liked show, as Mcdonalds has generally liked burgers and fries. What part are you not getting here?



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Johan said:
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Topic is "MAL has officially lost the plot" and I'm saying that it's not some random ratings on MAL, it's a generally liked show. My definition of fun is how much I enjoy watching those shows. To be honest, I enjoy Pui Pui Molcar more than I did Katanagatari. Even though I liked Katanagatari, 40 minutes long episodes were hell.


The themes Katanagatari was exploring and nature of the series (12 episodes to recover 12 swords) kind of required the 40 minute episodes as well as to develop the character chemistry between Togame and Shichika - culminating with Eps 11 and 12 which are 2 of the best consecutive episodes of anime of all time.

CHEERIO~

What themes does Pui Pui Molcar explore. Wash you car? LMAO.

I know its a generally liked show, as Mcdonalds has generally liked burgers and fries. What part are you not getting here?
Why would Pui Pui Molcar need to explore some themes lol. It's a fun 1~3 minutes/episode long anime to lean back and watch.
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z00nex said:
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The themes Katanagatari was exploring and nature of the series (12 episodes to recover 12 swords) kind of required the 40 minute episodes as well as to develop the character chemistry between Togame and Shichika - culminating with Eps 11 and 12 which are 2 of the best consecutive episodes of anime of all time.

CHEERIO~

What themes does Pui Pui Molcar explore. Wash you car? LMAO.

I know its a generally liked show, as Mcdonalds has generally liked burgers and fries. What part are you not getting here?
Why would Pui Pui Molcar need to explore some themes lol. It's a fun 1~3 minutes/episode long anime to lean back and watch.


Well that's partly why I asked you to define "fun".

First of all I don't have fun with it- the concept is wholly absurd , secondly the random cuts to cringy Koreans dancing in the backseat make it actually difficult to watch at times.



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Mar 7, 2021 3:59 PM

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Just read the top review, they are literally making a joke.
Mar 7, 2021 4:02 PM

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Pretty sure its score will go down gradually. No need to throw a fit and blame everyone here.


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Mar 7, 2021 4:03 PM

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Mention-2 said:
Pretty sure its score will go down gradually. No need to throw a fit and blame everyone here.


Oh there's a very great reason to throw a fit. Actually several hundred reasons - tho I only bothered to name 4 or 5 in my OP.

Also I didn't blame "everyone" specifically but "everyone" as a whole. There's a difference.



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Mar 7, 2021 4:04 PM
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At least this show is not a generic shounen or an anime with girls with breasts bigger than their heads.
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Johan said:
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Why would Pui Pui Molcar need to explore some themes lol. It's a fun 1~3 minutes/episode long anime to lean back and watch.


Well that's partly why I asked you to define "fun".

First of all I don't have fun with it- the concept is wholly absurd , secondly the random cuts to cringy Koreans dancing in the backseat make it actually difficult to watch at times.
You can't expect a show to entertain everyone. I'm not a fan of those people either but that doesn't take my enjoyment away.
Mar 7, 2021 4:05 PM

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At least this show is not a generic shounen or an anime with girls with breasts bigger than their heads.



Those are most likely better tbh. I can't think of many shounen worse than this.



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I dont get you, just because Digibro said that SAO is bad doesnt mean hes wrong, he also drinks water and breaths, are those wrong too?

I dont have complaints about what you said overall(I do agree), but saying that SAO is a masterpiece, when you could simply say its one of your favorite anime, makes me question your judgement
Mar 7, 2021 4:25 PM

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I hope the show makes it in the top 10.
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Mar 7, 2021 4:41 PM

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I watched the first episode and now I'm in tears. Truly an inspiring message about honoring society's heroes and saving lives. 10/10 easiest one I've ever given.
Mar 7, 2021 4:43 PM

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If you truly hate the show being in the top 200, you can of course do the same thing as any other people and try to convince people to action. In other words, get them to rate in the opposite direction. You can also try to convince people to put what you think should be in the top 200 there.

Regardless, it's a transient process that doesn't wholly exist dependent on you or any other group of people you disagree with. Everyone has an equal vote here.
Mar 7, 2021 4:45 PM

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i dont understand a single thing ab this thread
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maybe cus i didnt completely read it


wtf is happening im lost
Mar 7, 2021 4:54 PM
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What's really sad is to see this ranking above other stop-motion masterpieces. Why can’t my boy Norman the Snowman be in the top 100? 🙁
Mar 7, 2021 4:56 PM

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I haven't seen it but wow.. A 8.38 rating?



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That is true, and trust me I've thought about this. I lack the kind of popular influence though to kind of do something like that. As you can kinda gather I'm not one for making large groups of friends lol



Honest advice would be to study rhetoric theory and tools. A good place to start down the rabbit hole might be this paper (Rhetoric in Democracy: A Systemic Appreciation) and look at papers that cite this one. What you're engaging in your posts is 'bonding' rhetoric, so you're only really speaking to people who already agree with you. If you want to convince people to action, you probably need to figure out how to 'bridge the gap' with your speech.
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What's really sad is to see this ranking above other stop-motion masterpieces. Why can’t my boy Norman the Snowman be in the top 100? 🙁


LOL THE TOP 100. Don't get carried away. But ya, Norman is multiple fold better than Pui Pui.

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I haven't seen it but wow.. A 8.38 rating?


AOTS they said, AOTY they said.



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Mar 7, 2021 5:06 PM
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Your favorites list is mostly trash and you used autsism as an insult. I don't think your post here should be taken seriously.

I haven't seen Pui Pui Molcar but it unironically looks great.
Mar 7, 2021 5:13 PM

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Surprised this thread hasn't got deleted or locked yet lol


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Mar 7, 2021 5:18 PM

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Surprised this thread hasn't got deleted or locked yet lol


Me too. IF Ardanaz or Brandon were still mods it would have been locked the second they saw I was the OP.

That being said, why does this thread need to be locked? It's encouraged plenty of discussion - it's over 120 posts in less than 3 hrs.

I mean... I do understand I could kinda make a posts about clouds and it would get this much attention as well lol.



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Johan said:


Me too. IF Ardanaz or Brandon were still mods it would have been locked the second they saw I was the OP.

That being said, why does this thread need to be locked? It's encouraged plenty of discussion - it's over 120 posts in less than 3 hrs.

I mean... I do understand I could kinda make a posts about clouds and it would get this much attention as well lol.


I think it also generated a lot of personal attacks against people, not just propagated by you. Some of the attacks were directed at you as well. I think you wrote pretty early on that it doesn't matter to you either way but I still think is something that's mentioned in the forum rules as a general no-no.
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Jinkaku_Nijuu said:
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Me too. IF Ardanaz or Brandon were still mods it would have been locked the second they saw I was the OP.

That being said, why does this thread need to be locked? It's encouraged plenty of discussion - it's over 120 posts in less than 3 hrs.

I mean... I do understand I could kinda make a posts about clouds and it would get this much attention as well lol.


I think it also generated a lot of personal attacks against people, not just propagated by you. Some of the attacks were directed at you as well. I think you wrote pretty early on that it doesn't matter to you either way but I still think is something that's mentioned in the forum rules as a general no-no.


I've never regulated my threads, I've never reported any replies, and i wholly welcome all replies- regardless of their substance, veracity, or intelligence. I don't see any unique problem here. Why do we have to be snowflakes and lock or delete threads for any reason? The thread and OP itself is valid.



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Thank you for the salty recommendation, dude. Will watch a bit when I have the time.
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Thank you for the salty recommendation, dude. Will watch a bit when I have the time.


Well hopefully you don't have any time.



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Johan said:


I've never regulated my threads, I've never reported any replies, and i wholly welcome all replies- regardless of their substance, veracity, or intelligence. I don't see any unique problem here. Why do we have to be snowflakes and lock or delete threads for any reason? The thread and OP itself is valid.


Yep, I'm not saying that you're not consistent nor that you have a not valid opinion on how to engage in discussions. But a lot of discussions here are off-topic from the first post, like in the case where people are bickering about which shows they like/dislike that are unrelated to the one you mention. It makes it somewhat hard to see a relevant discussion through-line and makes it confused when there are multiple arguments going on.

In addition, and I had to look up the rule, in the forum guidelines it lists this:

3. Trolling, abuse and/or harassment of any community member (user or moderator) will not be tolerated.

Calling people 'autists' or denigrating users for their preferences (e.g. SAO in your case) is probably breaking this rule.

That being said, I don't really mind 'aggressive' conversations but I don't really come to MAL for that. I think there are better platforms to engage in the type of discussion you want where you won't be censored/locked for doing so.


EDIT: This conversation is also unrelated to the first post. Lol.
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Jinkaku_Nijuu said:
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I've never regulated my threads, I've never reported any replies, and i wholly welcome all replies- regardless of their substance, veracity, or intelligence. I don't see any unique problem here. Why do we have to be snowflakes and lock or delete threads for any reason? The thread and OP itself is valid.


Yep, I'm not saying that you're not consistent nor that you have a not valid opinion on how to engage in discussions. But a lot of discussions here are off-topic from the first post, like in the case where people are bickering about which shows they like/dislike that are unrelated to the one you mention. It makes it somewhat hard to see a relevant discussion through-line and makes it confused when there are multiple arguments going on.

In addition, and I had to look up the rule, in the forum guidelines it lists this:

3. Trolling, abuse and/or harassment of any community member (user or moderator) will not be tolerated.

Calling people 'autists' or denigrating users for their preferences (e.g. SAO in your case) is probably breaking this rule.

That being said, I don't really mind 'aggressive' conversations but I don't really come to MAL for that. I think there are better platforms to engage in the type of discussion you want where you won't be censored/locked for doing so.


EDIT: This conversation is also unrelated to the first post. Lol.


You realise i've been on MAL since 2010 right? I'm very familiar with the rules. Also, i disagree that this conversation is unrelated. IT's related to whether the very thread i created should be locked or not, which I wholly disagree with.

Also you only have 95 posts in 7 years, so it doesn't seem like conversations of ANY kind on MAL are what you're here for.

The way i see it; if my threads or replies are bothersome don't reply. Or reply and bitch about it, but expect to be met with a response lol.

I don't mind either way.

Ignore my threads, attack my threads; it's all fine to me.

I disagree that there's any abuse or harrassment going on here. That would have to be targeted, repetitive attacks towards a member. There's nothing in this thread that even comes close to that.

The closest instance would probably be my exchange with Crow_Black, but there's no reason to report it or moan about it. lmao.

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Johan said:


You realise i've been on MAL since 2010 right? I'm very familiar with the rules. Also, i disagree that this conversation is unrelated. IT's related to whether the very thread i created should be locked or not, which I wholly disagree with.

Also you only have 95 posts in 7 years, so it doesn't seem like conversations of ANY kind on MAL are what you're here for.

The way i see it; if my threads or replies are bothersome don't reply. Or reply and bitch about it, but expect to be met with a response lol.

I don't mind either way.

Ignore my threads, attack my threads; it's all fine to me.

I disagree that there's any abuse or harrassment going on here. That would have to be targeted, repetitive attacks towards a member. There's nothing in this thread that even comes close to that.

The closest instance would probably be my exchange with Crow_Black, but there's no reason to report it or moan about it. lmao.


Yep, just want to be clear that I'm not really arguing something ideal here, nor that you should change your behavior - just explaining since you said you were confused why someone or a moderator might choose to lock this thread. But who knows, I'm not a mod and also I didn't make the rule. I also assume you are acquainted with the rules but either (1) don't understand them since you've had your threads locked in the past or (2) don't care about them. I think it's perfectly valid to break rules you don't agree with but simultaneously it seems weird to be confused about the punitive measures that follow.

Also I similarily have been on MAL for a long time, but this is not my first account. I don't think my lack of posts is a good indicator considering this is the internet.
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What you trying to get at tho. I watched like the first 5 eps and its actually pretty good. Just cuz it doesn't have some sort of crazy plot or story doesn't mean people can't like it.
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What you trying to get at tho. I watched like the first 5 eps and its actually pretty good. Just cuz it doesn't have some sort of crazy plot or story doesn't mean people can't like it.


These responses are always the weirdest. Where did i say or even imply someone can't "like" it?



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Johan said:
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What you trying to get at tho. I watched like the first 5 eps and its actually pretty good. Just cuz it doesn't have some sort of crazy plot or story doesn't mean people can't like it.


These responses are always the weirdest. Where did i say or even imply someone can't "like" it?
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It's a kawaii anime which is easy to watch and has universal appeal. It's an entertaining show and that's all that really matters.

It plays a niche very well and I think you should re-evaluate things when you're getting upset over an anime which has under 4000 members and ranks #7201th~ in popularity
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Pui Pui Molcar is actually unironically great though

Despite the toxic nature of this thread, I am happy that more people are finding out about it through it
Mar 7, 2021 7:01 PM

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First off you shouldn't care about rankings as the majority of it are based off of enjoyment.

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Mar 7, 2021 7:13 PM
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I don't know what the hell you're on about, MAL hasn't changed at all. Half of MAL's threads are repackaged versions of "I'm gonna whine because people like/do things a different way than I do".

Seriously, why do you people love bitching about rankings so much? Is it that fun? Am I missing out here?

Also I have to imagine OP is an actual fan of this show playing 5D chess, or just doesn't know about the Streisand Effect. Most of us wouldn't even know this show existed before this thread.
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Wait, this thread is still going?
Damn, you OP must be using some pay to win perks.
Mar 7, 2021 9:20 PM

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This is SoL, so the plot doesn't matter anyway.
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that i just don't know
Mar 7, 2021 9:33 PM
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Sounds like OP got filtered by cute aggression.
Mar 7, 2021 11:48 PM

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It looks really cute I kinda want to watch it now...
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Imagine taking MAL rankings seriously.
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As long as Tenkuu Danzai Skelter+Heaven is still the lowest-ranked anime, I still consider mal as a reliable site to browse anime.


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Mar 8, 2021 12:25 AM

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OP kinda has a point... Actually why is a stop motion animation meant for kids even considered "anime"? This is like Bob the Builder or Thomas the Tank Engine... How do you even rank these against animes? It's like ranking a bath soap against a detergent...
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Johan said:
When you sort anime on MAL by aggregate score I regret to inform y'all that "Pui Pui Molcar" an absurd show about CGI hamsters shaped like vehicles now finds itself cemented in the top 200 with a score that's rising daily. At first I thought it was a meme, or being boosted by what I call "Irony 10s" untiil I started reading the actual reviews and forum posts and came to the aneurysm inducing conclusion that these people are actually serious.

Yes, folks. A 2 minute show about CGI hamsters shaped as cars that randomnly cuts to cringy Koreans (real living Koreans) in the backseat of these things dancing is now ranked AHEAD of actual masterpieces such as Gankutsuo, Shinsekai Yori, Katanagatari, and honestly God knows what else.

MAL has reached peak levels of autism and officially lost the plot.

Congrats, I didn't think y'all could go any lower.


I'm going to give Pui Pui Molcar a 10/10 just because of this thread. Thank you for introducing me to this masterpiece.



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Johan said:
When you sort anime on MAL by aggregate score I regret to inform y'all that "Pui Pui Molcar" an absurd show about CGI hamsters shaped like vehicles now finds itself cemented in the top 200 with a score that's rising daily. At first I thought it was a meme, or being boosted by what I call "Irony 10s" untiil I started reading the actual reviews and forum posts and came to the aneurysm inducing conclusion that these people are actually serious.

Yes, folks. A 2 minute show about CGI hamsters shaped as cars that randomnly cuts to cringy Koreans (real living Koreans) in the backseat of these things dancing is now ranked AHEAD of actual masterpieces such as Gankutsuo, Shinsekai Yori, Katanagatari, and honestly God knows what else.

MAL has reached peak levels of autism and officially lost the plot.

Congrats, I didn't think y'all could go any lower.


I'm going to give Pui Pui Molcar a 10/10 just because of this thread. Thank you for introducing me to this masterpiece.


Ok I'll go give it a 1 to balance you out
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I've entered a weird state where I actually feel happy when Johan makes a thread or makes his presence felt in one

It'll inevitably turn into a completely irredeemable dumpster fire, sure, but it's a refreshing change of pace from the sheer repetitiveness of most topics on this board

give me this over some shinobu or 8man profile picture giving their revolutionary new vapid one line response in a thread i've probably seen 1,000+ times in the past 5 years

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I've entered a weird state where I actually feel happy when Johan makes a thread or makes his presence felt in one

It'll inevitably turn into a completely irredeemable dumpster fire, sure, but it's a refreshing change of pace from the sheer repetitiveness of most topics on this board

give me this over some shinobu or 8man profile picture giving their revolutionary new vapid one line response in a thread i've probably seen 1,000+ times in the past 5 years


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Yes, yes. People are mad that people can game the system. Seriously, scores are a joke most of the time, and so are many reviews that just feel like either pretentious bull or hilarious sarcasm (and the rare unironic "I love this animu so much I will marry it and get it pregnant" review) . Face it, we're not sophisticated enough to be given access to a numerical rating system that goes up to 10. We're literally weebs.
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well holo no graffiti is 8+ rated so honestly i'm not surprised.


Kinda facts though. I just found out about that show earlier today AND I had the exact same thought when I read the original post lol.
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