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How do you feel about loli?
Sexy/ ok with it
53.1%
68
Basically a Pedophile
46.9%
60
128 votes
Feb 20, 2020 11:47 AM
#1
I know the virgins in the anime community are far more tolerant to it but I have looked outside of the weeb community and I have seen that people find it even worse than the most disgusting fetishes out there. I don't care for it. I prefer them bigger than humanely possible if you know what I mean. |
Kayle_x_MorganaFeb 20, 2020 12:05 PM
Feb 20, 2020 11:49 AM
#2
Feb 20, 2020 11:56 AM
#3
Well it is like: People don't understand loli/shota stuff. Like first in my case with shotas. I like shota x older woman stuff because the idea of being molested by the big tiddie onee-san is appealing. That's why Monster Girl Quest and Layers of White are my fav hetero hentai. But there is also the other point my lolicon friend said. Basically lolis are viewed by him just as drawings and not as anything close to reality. He even implies that the ones who equate lolis to real children are closer to pedophiles since they are drawing the connection between the 2. A very interesting viewpoint that I see holds merit because generally people are uncomfortable with loli/shota because they are equating them to real children which I personally think can be unhealthy, not just with that but anything. |
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Feb 20, 2020 12:02 PM
#4
Lolis are just kids/pre-teens man they don't deserve to be bashed like that. Don't call dear lolis pedophiles, they have feelings too. |
Feb 20, 2020 12:02 PM
#5
as long as the loli is in the age of consent and got enough sexy curves im fine with it *ahem* Tatsumaki from One Punch Man Seiya said: I'm not into loli at all. In fact, I hate cute things altogether, and I refuse to watch CGDCT anime. your avatar is ironic then lol |
Feb 20, 2020 12:03 PM
#6
There is nothing gross about sexualized children. |
poop |
Feb 20, 2020 12:03 PM
#7
Alpha_Trans said: Well it is like: People don't understand loli/shota stuff. Like first in my case with shotas. I like shota x older woman stuff because the idea of being molested by the big tiddie onee-san is appealing. That's why Monster Girl Quest and Layers of White are my fav hetero hentai. But there is also the other point my lolicon friend said. Basically lolis are viewed by him just as drawings and not as anything close to reality. He even implies that the ones who equate lolis to real children are closer to pedophiles since they are drawing the connection between the 2. A very interesting viewpoint that I see holds merit because generally people are uncomfortable with loli/shota because they are equating them to real children which I personally think can be unhealthy, not just with that but anything. This.This is what people need to consider before judging someone's fetish,and equating it to something as serious as pedophilia.Fiction and reality are different after all. |
Feb 20, 2020 12:06 PM
#8
The worst ones always make excuses like "but canonically she's (any age over the age of consent)" as if she wasn't given that age just to make it okay to jack off to someone who is MEANT to look like a CHILD. But, I honestly don't care that much. In fact, I love MAL pages who just own it, they're actually hilarious. Still kinda gross tho, but I'd rather them fetishize anime characters than actual children. |
Feb 20, 2020 12:06 PM
#9
Why can't yall bang robots and monster girls like normal people? Yall trying to make 2b cry or something? |
Feb 20, 2020 12:08 PM
#10
Esquirtit said: Ya ninja'd me outta that one fam. There is nothing gross about sexualized children. Ps: Your avy makes me giggle a bit. :3 |
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Feb 20, 2020 12:09 PM
#11
deg said: as long as the loli is in the age of consent and got enough sexy curves im fine with it *ahem* Tatsumaki from One Punch Man Seiya said: I'm not into loli at all. In fact, I hate cute things altogether, and I refuse to watch CGDCT anime. your avatar is ironic then lol My avatar is meant to represnt myself, as he has the same name as me. He is NOT "cute." Nurse Angel Ririka SOS is a magical girl anime, not a slice of life. |
Feb 20, 2020 12:14 PM
#12
Keity said: Esquirtit said: Ya ninja'd me outta that one fam. There is nothing gross about sexualized children. Ps: Your avy makes me giggle a bit. :3 Your avy makes me want to follow the footsteps of Chris Hansen. Japanese edition coming 2021, in collaboration with the UN. |
poop |
Feb 20, 2020 12:29 PM
#13
the people who view it as the worst just seem emotionally biased about the subject, i mean, what's more gross? a nude drawing of a kid, or LITERAL SHIT AND GORE? yeah, if you think the latter is less disgusting, then yer the weirdo in my eyes. |
Feb 20, 2020 12:40 PM
#14
I spend a lot of time exploring psychology and the human brain like any brain forms connections based on external stimuli and in the case of sexual response an interaction of the occurrence of external and internal caused stimuli whether or not it actually caused one or the other to respond to eachother. The brain then starts forming connections based on this pattern if it occurs enough. In other words fetishes are formed by sexual arousal coinciding with anything happening in the outside world. This is especially the case when someone is first going through puberty. Whatever occurs during arousal doesn't have to be seen as sexual at the time but eventually the body and brain does make it sexual. We all already know not everyone is aroused by 2D characters, it's a learned sexual response where if it's close enough to what you are wired to be aroused by it will be arousing. Due to this we can conclude not all pedophiliacs would be aroused by loli characters. Though the characters being that they are not a precise approximation of real children or teens (depending how you define loli) but rather may represent other interests such as petite figure or attraction to a certain height. They don't really have a major difference in appearance (though depends on art style) to older characters. Now here is the other side how it works. What happens when you imagine something your brain percieves it much the same as it does something real. If a person isn't programmed to be aroused by same thing as someone else they unless have knowledge of how this process works will have no level of understanding and will perhaps attempt to make up reasons that are wrong. When there is a strong repulsion that is result of their own programming matching an external stimuli to an internal emotional and or physical response such as nausea or gagging or cringing which isn't always a direct response but may be a response to what they thought of. This can be a bit more complicated than the sexual response. |
Feb 20, 2020 12:51 PM
#16
Feb 20, 2020 12:52 PM
#17
shenro said: the people who view it as the worst just seem emotionally biased about the subject, i mean, what's more gross? a nude drawing of a kid, or LITERAL SHIT AND GORE? yeah, if you think the latter is less disgusting, then yer the weirdo in my eyes. A kid yes is pretty gross. Scat porn exists irl and isn't illegal. Guro well yeah sure. |
Feb 20, 2020 12:57 PM
#18
like i'm not gonna equate anime to humans but when a loli is explicit about their age the self awareness definitely makes me uncomfortable |
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Feb 20, 2020 1:00 PM
#19
I prefer reasonably proportioned women, personally. I save the unrealistic proportions for my men. |
Feb 20, 2020 1:01 PM
#20
I'm sure there are psychological reasons behind liking lolis which may or may not stem from problems in one's life. That being said, I'm willing to bet that the majority of people attracted to lolis don't project this onto real children as they're vastly different, manily in the sense that they're not idealistic two-dimensional characters in terms of appearance and personality. Either way, I personally find them pretty gross, especially loli porn. shenro said: the people who view it as the worst just seem emotionally biased about the subject, i mean, what's more gross? a nude drawing of a kid, or LITERAL SHIT AND GORE? yeah, if you think the latter is less disgusting, then yer the weirdo in my eyes. I'm pretty sure we can estabilish that all of these are weird, I don't think there's a need to compare them lol |
Feb 20, 2020 1:07 PM
#21
The OP forgot the most damning part of all. Your loli waifu will grow up and become a SJW... You wholesome android waifu however, will not. v_v |
Feb 20, 2020 1:08 PM
#22
While i do find its gross, I doubt the majority of people who are into loli are out there on school yards touching themselves while looking at kids. Long as it doesn't jump to children irl then i personally don't see an issue, Still gross tho imo |
Feb 20, 2020 1:12 PM
#23
Soverign said: Lolis never grow up. This is blasphemy (cute pic tho).The OP forgot the most damning part of all. Your loli waifu will grow up and become a SJW... You wholesome android waifu however, will not. v_v |
Feb 20, 2020 1:15 PM
#24
Missaliensan said: This.This is what people need to consider before judging someone's fetish,and equating it to something as serious as pedophilia.Fiction and reality are different after all. Lolita fashion is big in Japan too and has also communities abroad https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_fashion This clothing subculture can be categorized into three main substyles: 'gothic', 'classic', and 'sweet'. Many other substyles such as 'sailor', 'country', 'hime' (princess), 'ero' (erotic), 'guro' (gore), 'oriental', 'punk', 'shiro (white)', kuro (black) and steampunk lolita also exist. This style evolved into a widely followed subculture in Japan and other countries in the 1990s and 2000s and may have waned in Japan as of the 2010s as the fashion became more mainstream. Within Japanese culture the name refers to cuteness and elegance rather than to sexual attractiveness. Many lolitas in Japan are not aware that lolita is associated with Nabokov's book and they are disgusted by it when they discover such relation. Another confusion that often occurs is between the Lolita fashion style and cosplay. Although both spread from Japan, they are different and should be perceived as independent from each other;one is a fashion style while the other is role-play, with clothing and accessory being used to play a character. This does not exclude that there may be some overlap between members of both groups.This can be seen at anime conventions such as the convention in Götenborg in which cosplay and Japanese fashion is mixed.[ For some Lolitas, it is insulting if people label their outfit as a costume. |
Feb 20, 2020 1:17 PM
#25
I think it's weird and kinda gross, but not immoral seeing as they're not real kids and don't even look like real kids. |
Take care of yourself |
Feb 20, 2020 1:20 PM
#26
As I said, lolis have the perkiest butts. Sometimes I want juicy 2D girls. Sometimes I want perky. |
Feb 20, 2020 1:20 PM
#27
Soverign said: The OP forgot the most damning part of all. Your loli waifu will grow up and become a SJW... You wholesome android waifu however, will not. v_v Would let android Onee-san choke me for sure. 10/10 |
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Feb 20, 2020 1:56 PM
#28
Damn, such bigoted behavior, a P should be added right after incel in the ILGBTQ+ cause. |
Feb 20, 2020 2:09 PM
#29
Kayle_x_Morgana said: shenro said: the people who view it as the worst just seem emotionally biased about the subject, i mean, what's more gross? a nude drawing of a kid, or LITERAL SHIT AND GORE? yeah, if you think the latter is less disgusting, then yer the weirdo in my eyes. A kid yes is pretty gross. Scat porn exists irl and isn't illegal. Guro well yeah sure. legality is irrelevant when discussing disgust. Erg_Orgy said: I'm sure there are psychological reasons behind liking lolis which may or may not stem from problems in one's life. That being said, I'm willing to bet that the majority of people attracted to lolis don't project this onto real children as they're vastly different, manily in the sense that they're not idealistic two-dimensional characters in terms of appearance and personality. Either way, I personally find them pretty gross, especially loli porn. yeah, i think there might be a reason for developing it aswell, tho sometimes it might be more of a natural born trait. like you know how some people are born full pedos? i think a sexual attraction to lolis could be a sign of the potential for said attraction, hell maybe there's a certain gene that triggers full on pedophilia, while the potential is triggered by a similar gene with some differences in the code. but that's just a hypothesis. what isn't a hypothesis tho is that some of the lolicons i questioned about the subject, contained some common traits, like living in a broken home, i wonder if this is another case of broken home = messed up kid. Erg_Orgy said: shenro said: the people who view it as the worst just seem emotionally biased about the subject, i mean, what's more gross? a nude drawing of a kid, or LITERAL SHIT AND GORE? yeah, if you think the latter is less disgusting, then yer the weirdo in my eyes. I'm pretty sure we can estabilish that all of these are weird, I don't think there's a need to compare them lol well yeah, but when someone says loli is the worst, then it is a matter of comparison. |
shenroFeb 20, 2020 2:17 PM
Feb 20, 2020 2:14 PM
#30
are you really surprised the weeb community is full of people who are probably proud to be into little kids? Kosmonaut said: Damn, such bigoted behavior, a P should be added right after incel in the ILGBTQ+ cause. there was a time when the pedophiles on twitter who tried to say that they weren't pedophiles called themselves "maps" and then tried to claim they were of "marginalized" orientation to which the grand majority of the lgbt community fucking laughed at them and told them pedos should just go leap off a cliff and die |
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Feb 20, 2020 2:23 PM
#31
Depends on the age tbh, and if they are more mature or whatnot. There’s a difference in what makes a character look either hot and sexy vs cute. You can’t really call them pedophiles, it’s like calling someone bloodthirsty/a murderer if they kill people in a game. |
MegaStrideFeb 20, 2020 2:26 PM
Feb 20, 2020 2:25 PM
#32
unamerican said: I remember all that MAP/NOMAP debacle and it was a mix of hilarious and cringy, tbh. It's just another thing that poured out of tumblr onto twitter, but I haven't seen anything of the sort lately. Kosmonaut said: Damn, such bigoted behavior, a P should be added right after incel in the ILGBTQ+ cause. there was a time when the pedophiles on twitter who tried to say that they weren't pedophiles called themselves "maps" and then tried to claim they were of "marginalized" orientation |
Feb 20, 2020 2:38 PM
#33
Then i am a p-pedo...? jezz. Well, there is nothing to do. I prefer the term Lolicon, it sounds cooler. |
Feb 20, 2020 2:42 PM
#34
xA-2 said: Then i am a p-pedo...? jezz. Well, there is nothing to do. I prefer the term Lolicon, it sounds cooler. How about the term “Lolicodo”. |
Feb 20, 2020 2:50 PM
#35
Feb 20, 2020 2:50 PM
#36
honestly the anime community is prone to loli lusting considering anime has lots of it and Japan is notorious for being pedophile friendly culture too |
Feb 20, 2020 2:59 PM
#37
BlakexEkalb said: oh that's good, but it would be better with a "g" "Loligodo", combining thus, the "dark" and the "pink", the sweet pink...xA-2 said: Then i am a p-pedo...? jezz. Well, there is nothing to do. I prefer the term Lolicon, it sounds cooler. How about the term “Lolicodo”. |
Feb 20, 2020 3:53 PM
#38
xA-2 said: BlakexEkalb said: oh that's good, but it would be better with a "g" "Loligodo", combining thus, the "dark" and the "pink", the sweet pink...xA-2 said: Then i am a p-pedo...? jezz. Well, there is nothing to do. I prefer the term Lolicon, it sounds cooler. How about the term “Lolicodo”. Honestly getting close to a new game we should call “Lolipolo”. |
Feb 20, 2020 3:56 PM
#39
I don't find it hot but I'm also not like "wtf, call the FBI." |
Feb 20, 2020 3:56 PM
#40
the vast majority of anime characters are underage to begin with even your big titty waifu is probably in the 15-17 range. also your poll is clearly bait. considering your basically equating being okay with them existing to finding it sexy. both are drastically different thing. Seiya said: I hate cute things altogether your favorite character list says otherwise. |
GrimAtramentFeb 20, 2020 4:01 PM
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Feb 20, 2020 4:14 PM
#41
Define loli. You can't do it with any consistency, so the discussion is meaningless. Is it just age? Just body type? A mixture of both? Are we talking under 18 or pre-pubescent? Or is there some point in between like pre-high school? Is the problem merely that it's "gross"? Or we going the "normalization" route? Guys finding girls under 18 attractive is pretty normal already. Are we trying to change the way guys think? Is social engineering the goal? If we mess with male sexuality what will that do to men psychologically? Are we not already seeing the result of shaming men for their natural urges in the increasing number of guys removing themselves from the dating game? Cue discussion about feminism and gender roles. Maybe we took an unnecessary detour earlier and we're only talking about pre-pubescent (in appearance / age) girls? Then it becomes more a freedom of expression argument. Bare in mind there are many people that think lolis are cute with a slight sexual element to it but aren't full blown lolicons. They can enjoy a character like Shinobu in Monogatari but they don't see her as in anyway synonymous with a child. Are we saying that people who perceive things differently and enjoy loli with ZERO crossover to real girls, people that pose no threat to real girls, people who could be the nicest, friendliest people in the world... they should have their creative expression limited and not be able to enjoy a wide range of artistic expression? Just on the off-chance that somewhere, someone will see a cute sexy loli and THAT will be the impetus that makes them go out and abuse a real child? What really is the chances of that? Are we trying to make the safest, most sanitized world possible? What even is a "child"? Many people think 18 is a quite a high bar for the age of consent. Many countries have it at 16. Can a 16 year old consent? If you're not prepared to address and think and talk about all these nuances to this debate in great detail, please shut the fuck up. |
“In individuals, insanity is rare; but in groups, parties, nations and epochs, it is the rule.” -Friedrich Nietzsche Aggregate scoring is bad for the anime fandom |
Feb 20, 2020 4:18 PM
#42
hazarddex said: the vast majority of anime characters are underage to begin with even your big titty waifu is probably in the 15-17 range. also your poll is clearly bait. considering your basically equating being okay with them existing to finding it sexy. both are drastically different thing. Seiya said: I hate cute things altogether your favorite character list says otherwise. They're not "cute," because they're not from CGDCT slice of life anime. Also, I'm not attracted to the young characters in my favorite characters list. |
Feb 20, 2020 4:19 PM
#43
Seiya said: hazarddex said: the vast majority of anime characters are underage to begin with even your big titty waifu is probably in the 15-17 range. also your poll is clearly bait. considering your basically equating being okay with them existing to finding it sexy. both are drastically different thing. Seiya said: I hate cute things altogether your favorite character list says otherwise. They're not "cute," because they're not from CGDCT slice of life anime. Also, I'm not attracted to the young characters in my favorite characters list. i am aware, but they still count as cute. |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Feb 20, 2020 4:20 PM
#44
hazarddex said: Seiya said: hazarddex said: the vast majority of anime characters are underage to begin with even your big titty waifu is probably in the 15-17 range. also your poll is clearly bait. considering your basically equating being okay with them existing to finding it sexy. both are drastically different thing. Seiya said: I hate cute things altogether your favorite character list says otherwise. They're not "cute," because they're not from CGDCT slice of life anime. Also, I'm not attracted to the young characters in my favorite characters list. i am aware, but they still count as cute. No, they don't. You must be confusing them for other characters. |
Feb 20, 2020 4:21 PM
#45
YossaRedMage said: Define loli. You can't do it with any consistency, so the discussion is meaningless. Is it just age? Just body type? A mixture of both? Are we talking under 18 or pre-pubescent? Or is there some point in between like pre-high school? Is the problem merely that it's "gross"? Or we going the "normalization" route? Guys finding girls under 18 attractive is pretty normal already. Are we trying to change the way guys think? Is social engineering the goal? If we mess with male sexuality what will that do to men psychologically? Are we not already seeing the result of shaming men for their natural urges in the increasing number of guys removing themselves from the dating game? Cue discussion about feminism and gender roles. Maybe we took an unnecessary detour earlier and we're only talking about pre-pubescent (in appearance / age) girls? Then it becomes more a freedom of expression argument. Bare in mind there are many people that think lolis are cute with a slight sexual element to it but aren't full blown lolicons. They can enjoy a character like Shinobu in Monogatari but they don't see her as in anyway synonymous with a child. Are we saying that people who perceive things differently and enjoy loli with ZERO crossover to real girls, people that pose no threat to real girls, people who could be the nicest, friendliest people in the world... they should have their creative expression limited and not be able to enjoy a wide range of artistic expression? Just on the off-chance that somewhere, someone will see a cute sexy loli and THAT will be the impetus that makes them go out and abuse a real child? What really is the chances of that? Are we trying to make the safest, most sanitized world possible? What even is a "child"? Many people think 18 is a quite a high bar for the age of consent. Many countries have it at 16. Can a 16 year old consent? If you're not prepared to address and think and talk about all these nuances to this debate in great detail, please shut the fuck up. While I agree that it can go in more detail and probably should, I don’t think it’s worth getting that upset for aka telling him to stfu. |
Feb 20, 2020 4:25 PM
#46
Seiya said: hazarddex said: Seiya said: hazarddex said: the vast majority of anime characters are underage to begin with even your big titty waifu is probably in the 15-17 range. also your poll is clearly bait. considering your basically equating being okay with them existing to finding it sexy. both are drastically different thing. Seiya said: I hate cute things altogether your favorite character list says otherwise. They're not "cute," because they're not from CGDCT slice of life anime. Also, I'm not attracted to the young characters in my favorite characters list. i am aware, but they still count as cute. No, they don't. You must be confusing them for other characters. from your favorite character list are you sure about that? |
"among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus |
Feb 20, 2020 4:32 PM
#47
hazarddex said: Seiya said: hazarddex said: Seiya said: hazarddex said: the vast majority of anime characters are underage to begin with even your big titty waifu is probably in the 15-17 range. also your poll is clearly bait. considering your basically equating being okay with them existing to finding it sexy. both are drastically different thing. Seiya said: I hate cute things altogether your favorite character list says otherwise. They're not "cute," because they're not from CGDCT slice of life anime. Also, I'm not attracted to the young characters in my favorite characters list. i am aware, but they still count as cute. No, they don't. You must be confusing them for other characters. from your favorite character list are you sure about that? Seriously, you're gonna drag my waifu, Katsura Tenjouin into this too? She's 18 years old! She's pretty, not cute: |
Feb 20, 2020 4:55 PM
#48
Seiya said: hazarddex said: Seiya said: hazarddex said: Seiya said: hazarddex said: the vast majority of anime characters are underage to begin with even your big titty waifu is probably in the 15-17 range. also your poll is clearly bait. considering your basically equating being okay with them existing to finding it sexy. both are drastically different thing. Seiya said: I hate cute things altogether your favorite character list says otherwise. They're not "cute," because they're not from CGDCT slice of life anime. Also, I'm not attracted to the young characters in my favorite characters list. i am aware, but they still count as cute. No, they don't. You must be confusing them for other characters. from your favorite character list are you sure about that? Seriously, you're gonna drag my waifu, Katsura Tenjouin into this too? She's 18 years old! She's pretty, not cute: How about she’s “pretty cute”? |
Feb 20, 2020 4:59 PM
#49
Are you a "moral guardian"? Seems like these people have been popping up in large numbers lately with their projecting. |
Feb 20, 2020 5:00 PM
#50
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