Maneki-Mew said: BurningSpirit said: Sentai Filmworks has set up a GoFundMe in support of KyoAni https://www.gofundme.com/help-kyoani-heal Donate if you can deg said: I've seen some GoFundMe's already up by some (major) companies. Do remember that Kyoto Animation (nor anyone from there) has asked for money or donation, they likely had insurance, and Japanese National Healthcare is MANDATORY for everyone. https://twitter.com/DoctorDazza/status/1151728605027680256 just sharing that So.... is this real now or scum? 😅 the follow up tweet about that Wait for Kyoto Animation to make a statement when they can and save your money for then. https://twitter.com/DoctorDazza/status/1151728606571196421 so ye just wait for the official statement of KyoAni before donating anywhere about this just to prevent being scammed |
| Sad news. Rip. I'm curious about the motives |
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| With 100% surety I am saying: Mentally ill jealous people would have done this to KyoAni. |
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Maneki-Mew said: I did mention that it is from Sentai Filmworks, so at the very least it isn't a scam.So.... is this real now or scum? 😅 That said, as @deg said, this isn't an official statement for donations by KyoAni themselves. |
| I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters. If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
| 70 people in the building 23 people dead 36 in hospital ...59 out of 70 people are either injured or dead... that's a bloody lot even for now. The entire building looks burned. |
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| @Maneki-Mew also if you got enough money to buy some legal BluRay of KyoAni anime then that will be better imo since KyoAni is usually among the top of the production committee of the anime they are making so that means they will get a lot of profit (share) from those legal BluRay/DVD sales |
| That headline should read "KyoAni was just targeted by a terrorist" |
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GERXjakobson said: The Japanese police confirmed that he wasn't a former employee. According to posts made on 5ch, it seems like the arsonist might've been motivated by hatred towards the new Hibike Euphonium movie. I don't know what exactly the motivation was but the most realistic one is that it was an Ex-employee with mental problems. I understand that most people here didn't came to that possibility because most of you are unemployed plebs. deg said: Aren't those blu rays just licensed and sold by Sentai anyways? @Maneki-Mew also if you got enough money to buy some legal BluRay of KyoAni anime then that will be better imo since KyoAni is usually among the top of the production committee of the anime they are making so that means they will get a lot of profit (share) from those legal BluRay/DVD sales |
| wtf!!! are we really going to see the beginning of the end for anime industry? injured is one thing but to think some of them die is really heartbroken for me. I just wonder, why arsonist did this??? and some of them missing like what? got kidnapped or what? I heard all database from kyoani is destroyed. so no violet evergarden? no new anime or new season from kyoani anymore after this? |
Air-117 said: Pardon for being skeptical, after all your source is definitely questionable. Hibike Euphonium movie premiered 3 months ago.The Japanese police confirmed that he wasn't a former employee. According to posts made on 5ch, it seems like the arsonist might've been motivated by hatred towards the new Hibike Euphonium movie. |
| I'm not a lolicon, you're just projecting your tendency to lewd 2D characters. If your favourite character is Tsutsukakushi Tsukiko, you are my soul mate. Been a long time since I've been here, I'll continue expressing myself freely and believe everyone should too. My MAL Interview |
Air-117 said: deg said: Aren't those blu rays just licensed and sold by Sentai anyways? @Maneki-Mew also if you got enough money to buy some legal BluRay of KyoAni anime then that will be better imo since KyoAni is usually among the top of the production committee of the anime they are making so that means they will get a lot of profit (share) from those legal BluRay/DVD sales for licensors then KyoAni can still make decent profit if it sold well (they have this sort of royalties stuff and not just the minimum guarantee stuff) source https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-06-11 but i heard over the years that some direct legal japanese discs have english subtitles in them but im not sure about KyoAni works though so just check it out and if it has then ye better buy those more expnesive discs directly from japan |
| Feel sick. Why would anyone do this. Not only did he kill those innocent people, but he has ruined the lives of hundreds more when you consider families and friends of the victims. |
| There are multiple deaths been reported, What a horrible event, Feel sadly...... |
Maneki-Mew said: deg said: for licensors then KyoAni can still make decent profit if it sold well (they have this sort of royalties stuff and not just the minimum guarantee stuff) source https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2012-06-11 but i heard over the years that some direct legal japanese discs have english subtitles in them but im not sure about KyoAni works though so just check it out and if it has then ye better buy those more expnesive discs directly from japan Anyway, if it's from Sentai, I donated 10 $ now. That doesn't hurt. It's over 200.000 $ by now, that's incredible. It's already 23 people, who died, that's so awful. Imagine they were going to art school and had the ambition to work there, then started working for an animation studio day by day and suddenly they won't come home anymore, because they died in a fire. That feels so unrealistic. ok nice that you donated hopefully Sentai will not do anything scammy with that growing donation they are raising |
deg said: Maneki-Mew said: Anyway, if it's from Sentai, I donated 10 $ now. That doesn't hurt. It's over 200.000 $ by now, that's incredible. It's already 23 people, who died, that's so awful. Imagine they were going to art school and had the ambition to work there, then started working for an animation studio day by day and suddenly they won't come home anymore, because they died in a fire. That feels so unrealistic. ok nice that you donated hopefully Sentai will not do anything scammy with that growing donation they are raising I kind of doubt they will do anything scammy. It would ruin their company and they have licensed quite a few KyoAni things too. If they did they would be boycotted by so many people. |
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Calal-Chan said: deg said: ok nice that you donated hopefully Sentai will not do anything scammy with that growing donation they are raising I kind of doubt they will do anything scammy. It would ruin their company and they have licensed quite a few KyoAni things too. If they did they would be boycotted by so many people. ye thats true i just base that on some scammy ways like even bigger capitalists like Facebook for example |
| The pyromaniac probably was one of those guys who send threats to tha authors just because they don't like something.I hope this horrible event doesn't develop in something as the disgusting school shooters "trend" there is in USA |
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avdx101 said: Waifu was probably defiled by interacting with another male character.StufedAnmalQueen said: The person behind this is probably looking for attention, maybe as a joke. I hope the staff stay safe. Pray for their safety. So attention whores are now spraying people with an inflammable liquid and set them on fire. We're fucked. There's gotta be more to this. Edit: Didn't know about the death toll until now. I wasn't trying to make light of it. |
ZekkenshinJul 18, 2019 6:03 AM
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| Just read that at least 25 suspected dead, that's terrible. I hope they find it was accidental and not a targeted arson attack. Just read that it looks like it was an arson attack, someone used gasoline, what sick fucker would so something like this! Condolences to the family & friends of the victims. |
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| The death toll has gone up to 33. I feel terribly sad about that. They were all passionate animators who bring joy to millions of people in the world. How could that have happened? I'm speechless. |
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| Nearly 30 confirmed or presumed dead......this is sickening. I hope that the studio can recover from this loss and the families get the support they deserve |
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| RIP This is pretty insane... I wonder what the motivation was. I remember I used to like a lot of their older shows like the Key adaptations, Haruhi and FMP: Fumoffu? is still one of my all time fave comedies. I'm not really too big on their newer works but A Silent Voice was an amazing adaptation. Anyway I hope the studio pulls through and none of their projects are majorly impacted. |
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| i keep trying to convince myself that this isn't real not just being an anime fan, especially a moe fag but, this generally isn't what you expect to hear from japan |
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| This is very sad.. Hope their families get support and can pull through this tragedy. |
| 20 people died on the staircase leading up to the roof. This is what the explosion would've been like inside, from 20 liters of gasoline. He brought 40, plus there's a ton of flammable material like paper inside There was a card key system to get in but the studio was expecting visitors that day so it was disabled. resniperowl said: My one request to all communities that are vested in the continued development of this tragedy: Don't use the perpetrator's name. Do not spread it. Infamy is still recognition. And widespread infamy is still widespread recognition. Do not give him the satisfaction that his name is out there as the one who did this. Even if his name was reported he'd be hardly remembered by anyone off of the top of their head. Can you recall who shot JFK? Who shot John Lennon? Who shot up Virginia Tech? The person who shot up the theater when Dark Knight released? No? People remember the victims, not the killers. |
| I was heartbroken when I heard the news. I hope everyone who passed away rests in peace. What an absolutely cruel and shitty world we live in where we have people lighting buildings filled with people on fire. |
| Off of the top of my head: Valyrian1124 said: Can you recall who shot JFK? Lee Harvey Oswald Who shot John Lennon? Mark David Chapman Who shot up Virginia Tech? Korean guy, not even going to try to guess at the name because it's too foreign and out there compared to what I'm generally able to internalize The person who shot up the theater when Dark Knight released? (something) Holmes I know for a fact I'm at least two for four because the first two aren't especially difficult to answer if you're familiar with both of the victims, who are both incredibly famous individuals. The first two are a given considered we're talking about one of the most famous musicians of all time and an American president. These are very easy to remember, and more importantly, of course the victims are given elevation. They are famous and had many accomplishments in their lives and many admirers prior to their deaths. The latter two are (decently) recent examples of large scale shootings. Tell me, when are we going to start remembering stuff like the Texas Tower Shooting and commemorating that outside of extremely localized instances? Who gets more attention in most Columbine Documentaries? Hell, the Edmond Post Office Shooting is remembered primarily for the phrase it spawned and the event that spawned said phrase, both the shooter and the victim, has fallen into relatively obscurity in comparison, especially since the subtext is more in reference to the shooter's actions than the victims through the way it uses the verb "Going." Iunno what it is with Americans and their love of mass shootings, but meh, hard to dig up other examples from various countries that date back and didn't involve famous or easily remembered victims. Oh, the one school shooting in late '70s San Diego is primarily remembered for the killer's reason of "I Don't Like Mondays" which was turned into a hit song. Most people don't even know where the school was from and I only remembered it was even an American shooting after looking it up just now and all of this time had thought it to be a European one for some reason. Anyway, also remember Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer, so on and so forth. It's not a matter of victim or killer, it's relative prominence of either. Charles Manson and his cronies killed a celebrity in Sharon Tate, and Manson himself is far more remembered and thought of than Tate. Because Manson himself became more prominent than Tate, let alone the rest of his victims, and Bundy and Dahmer gained prominence through their victim count and being serial killers. Prominence matters more to the populace's memory than whether or not they were a victim or killer. A better question to try to get somebody to answer off of the top of their head with extreme difficulty would be "Who was one of Bundy's victims?" instead of "Who shot JFK?" Or hell, even "Who was the actress that the Manson family killed?" would be extremely difficult. I didn't remember the name at all and had to Google it. Anyway, this post of mine is kind of pedantic, but to say that the killers don't tend to be remembered more than the victims and citing JFK and John Lennon to back yourself up seemed kind of silly to me. In the case of Japan specifically, I know that people like the Otaku Killer are greatly remembered instead of their victims, albeit in a way comparable to Bundy and Dahmer, and that's played a much bigger role in propagating social stigma against otaku over there than simply digging 2D chicks has ever contributed. Considering the comparative rarity of this level of violence over there, I wouldn't be surprised that the guy gets remembered more than you're willing to ascribe him given incidents like these are going to be more shocking than they are in America, or hell, even here in Europe, albeit considering who he attacked it's very likely they'll still take the spotlight this time, 'specially in the West. That'd be my prediction, at least, KyoAni still wins because KyoAni is not some small anime studio in any location. If it were Asread or .feel, I would be saying something different, just like the strength of the reactions and the coverage this received would also very likely be different had it been a studio like that and not KyoAni. Although I highly doubt the guy is going to be forgotten suddenly and quickly considering the long-term impact that previous mass killers have had in that society and the comparative rarity of these things in Japan compared to, iunno, pretty much literally the rest of the world. That society is not as desensitized to these things as Europe, or especially America, and will very likely have a more fear-induced reaction because of as much. |
ManabanJul 18, 2019 12:01 PM
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| Police report From the first floor window and debris spread, it is concluded that the first floor had an explosion occur, and the extensive damage to the outer wall of the 2nd and 3rd floor, show that it was very high temperture, so it is likely that an liquid like gasoline or other was used to start and make the fire bigger" Normal fire inside a building don't reach temperature over 1000 degree, but gasoline fire can reach over 1500 degree, able to melt metal at that temperture it is impossible to breath, people on the first floor was perished quickly, 2nd and 3rd floor heard the explosion, but before had time to reach, the fire and smoke came, and they didn't had time to run/react. Due to the unatural speed and spread of the fire, likely rising a few meter after igniting so spreading very fast, there wasn't time for the fire alarm and fire door to activate, making escape impossible, the only secure way now is to increase checking of personal item and coming in and out of building. Fire can spread exponentially fast. It can utterly consume a room in mere seconds. |
| I want to express my sympathies for the victims of his morbid incident but words fail me at the moment. Just remember that every death is a tragedy no matter the person's level of involvement at KyoAni. I see a lot of focus on the directors but just remember that no auteur, no matter how ingenious can stand on their own. |
| update as of now: 33 dead, many injured. |
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| I've little else but disgust for the perpetrator of this tragedy. If he dies of the injuries he sustained himself, he will have gotten off easy. |
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| We need to have a clear statement of motive, either from the perpetrator himself or something should be disclosed to the news from police sources. Apparently there was a plagiarism dispute, but I would like to hear it in his own words or something close to it in a lot more detail. |
| I honestly don't give a damn about the suspects motivation. No matter what his reasons are it will still be pathetic and inexcusable. I'd much rather have a list of victims, as they are far more worth remembering than the sick fuck who did this. |
| ok there is a legit news article now about the supposed motive was The arson killed and hurt so many innocent people because he believed kyoani stole an idea for his novel?? https://twitter.com/tiffako/status/1152002010629062657 |
deg said: ok there is a legit news article now about the supposed motive was The arson killed and hurt so many innocent people because he believed kyoani stole an idea for his novel?? https://twitter.com/tiffako/status/1152002010629062657 That rumor has been circulating since this morning, one among many. Apparently there was a regular poster on 2 chan who had a signature saying, and then thought KyoAni plagiarized him when they used a similar phrase in Hibike Euphonium. Then, the day before the fire, he posted a rant and disappeared. He hasn't posted since.  Really best to just wait for the official report. |
| to those that want to donate do this instead (if you have not yet) One immediate way to give directly to the studio (through buying digital artwork) is through their online digital store. @gokunobaka has helped make a picture guide of how to order these and give some money directly. (link in the tweet they're replying to) more info here https://twitter.com/ultimatemegax/status/1151839664891944960 @Valyrian1124 ye better wait for the official police report |
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