| The bad thing about it is that it adds to the stereotype anime fans being Nazis on top of being virgins and shutin weirdos. MAL is a magnet to edgelords. |
Bayek said: Apparently so are Vladmir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao Zedong. What are you blithering on about? Only Nazis and fascists are capable of evil that's worth remembering and getting angry over. You either don't understand, or are pretending not to understand. There are bands of fascists, today, who unite under Nazi references, including the expression of admiration for Hitler. In particular, there is a movement of fascists which calls itself the "alt-right" who push fascism whilst pretending to be joking, because they know they will meet massed opposition if they openly admit to being fascists. If you favourite Hitler, you are either a fascist, or you have been tricked by fascists into helping them conceal themselves by falling for their claims to be joking. There is nothing good about Nazism, there is no good reason for anyone to do it. If you aren't a fascist, but nevertheless you don't care that your unnecessary "jokes" are assisting fascists, then that still makes you a bad person. The only way you can not be a bad person if you have favourited Hitler, is if after reading this post, you (optionally go away and independently confirm what I've written, and then) become horrified at what you've been tricked into helping with and stop doing it. |
| As a fan of Hitler chan, here's what I think: First, I don't care what others feel. Hitler was awesome. Sure he lost a war and all but that was his only mistake. Second, I am pretty sure (Unless they are a special kind of snowflakes in which case I give even less shit) they don't care either. The only ones who find offense in it aren't even Jews, they just want to be the thought police. |
| Hitler did a good job at slowing down overpopulation, that was a great service to humanity. I don't get the fucking hate agaisn't Hitler, the same people who ''hate'' Hitler praise Napoleon bonaparte ,Jules César or Chinggis Khaan and many other dictators and commanders who messed a lot of shit in history. Is it because he is more recent? He isn't even the one who killed the most people... about the over population thing, imagine if all those people lived longer and reproduced. We'd be living in a shithole today. Mongol conquest 5,000,000 dead Napoleonic Wars 6,500,000 dead American Civil War 625,000 dead Spanish Civil War 500,000 dead World War I 9,911,000 dead World War II 61,000,000 dead Korean War 3,500,000 dead Vietnam War 3,900,000 dead logopolis said: You either don't understand, or are pretending not to understand. There are bands of fascists, today, who unite under Nazi references, including the expression of admiration for Hitler. In particular, there is a movement of fascists which calls itself the "alt-right" who push fascism whilst pretending to be joking, because they know they will meet massed opposition if they openly admit to being fascists. If you favourite Hitler, you are either a fascist, or you have been tricked by fascists into helping them conceal themselves by falling for their claims to be joking. There is nothing good about Nazism, there is no good reason for anyone to do it. If you aren't a fascist, but nevertheless you don't care that your unnecessary "jokes" are assisting fascists, then that still makes you a bad person. The only way you can not be a bad person if you have favourited Hitler, is if after reading this post, you (optionally go away and independently confirm what I've written, and then) become horrified at what you've been tricked into helping with and stop doing it. Today fascism has no political power, most countries will arrest you if you show any sign of being a fascist in open public. You are free to be a fascist only on your private or on the internet, which again has no political power. |
EkaenApr 10, 2018 9:40 AM
YayaChibi said: Plus its just people who are into shitty memes who fav him - they ain't serious lol lmao Not quite true since there are plenty of Nazis on MAL. |
Noboru said: ManicMayo said: Hitler didn't go against the allied Balts, Slavs, Hungarians, Romanians, Indians, etc. in that Manner.Why just the Jews? Sure, they were the highest on his 'shit list' but Hitler had a penchant for exterminating many different types of people. I think as far as he was concerned, if you weren't Germanic or Japanese, your immunity from any extermination programme the Third Reich churned out couldn't guaranteed. Well, even Hitler wasn't stupid enough to openly consider the populations of nations allied to him as sub-human. The Nazis would change their position on many different races throughout the war to fall in line with their active foreign policy. Regardless of who the Nazis were allied to, it is fairly clear that only the Germanic peoples (and the French and Italians who had 'sufficient Germanic blood', as well as the 'honorary Aryan' Japanese) were indisputably superior in the eyes of Hitler and his most fanatical supporters. Any other racial group the Nazis claimed to have considered their equals were being used as nothing more than a means to an end in their grand plan to establish their Neuordnung. To be honest, I'm surprised you mentioned the Indians as people Hitler didn't consider inferior. I believe he once referred to the Indian independence movement as a bunch of 'racially inferior Asiatic jugglers' and their activities as the 'rebellion of the lower Indian race against the superior English Nordic race'. |
ManicMayoApr 10, 2018 3:34 PM
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ManicMayo said: Wait, I never said that he regarded them as equal. I just wrote that he didn't went against his Allies in that extreme Form. He wouldn't have gained anything from suddenly killing ethnic, non-Jewish Balts, Slavs, Hungarians, Romanians, Indians and others with whom Germany was allied to.Any other racial group the Nazis claimed to have considered their equals were being used as nothing more than a means to an end in their grand plan to establish their Neuordnung. The Chinese, Finns and few other Individuals (including some Jews) were considered Honorary Aryans, but that doesn't mean that he could not respect another Nation like Hungary because of Budapest and them being the "Descendants of Attila the Hun". |
Lost_Viking said: Meh, Hitler is overrated. Let me know when they add Vlad the Impaler or Pol Pot or the Unabomber to MAL's database. https://myanimelist.net/manga/8434/Odoru_Kremlin_Kyuuden I mean, Stalin, Putin, Gorbachev, Castro, Marx, Trotsky, G.W. Bush. Seems like a good selection. I still say it is funnier to find Gendo in someone's favorites. Or Pen Pen. If I see Shou Tucker in someone's favorites I laugh. |
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YayaChibi said: I doubt any sane person actually has Nazi views lmao lol I never said Nazis were sane. But you are very naive if you deny that there are Nazis on MAL, like the one 2 posts above your first post here. |
| People just think it's cool and edgy to have people like Adolf Hitler and Anne Frank in their favorites. |
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| What Hitler is famous on Mal! I totally didn't know, really. |
| I doubt they'd give a shit about some wannabe edge-lords who probably cackle behind their desktop when they hit the fave button. |
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logopolis said: Bayek said: Apparently so are Vladmir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot and Mao Zedong. What are you blithering on about? Only Nazis and fascists are capable of evil that's worth remembering and getting angry over. You either don't understand, or are pretending not to understand. There are bands of fascists, today, who unite under Nazi references, including the expression of admiration for Hitler. In particular, there is a movement of fascists which calls itself the "alt-right" who push fascism whilst pretending to be joking, because they know they will meet massed opposition if they openly admit to being fascists. If you favourite Hitler, you are either a fascist, or you have been tricked by fascists into helping them conceal themselves by falling for their claims to be joking. There is nothing good about Nazism, there is no good reason for anyone to do it. If you aren't a fascist, but nevertheless you don't care that your unnecessary "jokes" are assisting fascists, then that still makes you a bad person. The only way you can not be a bad person if you have favourited Hitler, is if after reading this post, you (optionally go away and independently confirm what I've written, and then) become horrified at what you've been tricked into helping with and stop doing it. You’re the one blithering, you have no clue what you’re talking about, you’re just parrotting what you heard some fat SJW say. Do you know what Fascism is, do you know who invented it? Hitler was National Socialist, and anyone who alligns themselves with Hitler would have to view it as an ideal state. Fascism is similar, but still distinct. Some hallmarks are control of the media, and control over what people can and can’t say. If you want to get a taste of fascism, go to a liberal college, although I’m sure you do already from the way you spit acid at anyone who thinks differently from you. You want to “smash” fascists? Lol, I dunno if they’d be up for it tbh. |
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BalorsCurse said: logopolis said: What are you blithering on about? You either don't understand, or are pretending not to understand. There are bands of fascists, today, who unite under Nazi references, including the expression of admiration for Hitler. In particular, there is a movement of fascists which calls itself the "alt-right" who push fascism whilst pretending to be joking, because they know they will meet massed opposition if they openly admit to being fascists. If you favourite Hitler, you are either a fascist, or you have been tricked by fascists into helping them conceal themselves by falling for their claims to be joking. There is nothing good about Nazism, there is no good reason for anyone to do it. If you aren't a fascist, but nevertheless you don't care that your unnecessary "jokes" are assisting fascists, then that still makes you a bad person. The only way you can not be a bad person if you have favourited Hitler, is if after reading this post, you (optionally go away and independently confirm what I've written, and then) become horrified at what you've been tricked into helping with and stop doing it. You’re the one blithering, you have no clue what you’re talking about, you’re just parrotting what you heard some fat SJW say. Do you know what Fascism is, do you know who invented it? Hitler was National Socialist, and anyone who alligns themselves with Hitler would have to view it as an ideal state. Fascism is similar, but still distinct. Some hallmarks are control of the media, and control over what people can and can’t say. If you want to get a taste of fascism, go to a liberal college, although I’m sure you do already from the way you spit acid at anyone who thinks differently from you. You want to “smash” fascists? Lol, I dunno if they’d be up for it tbh. So how do you deal with people who don't care about your opinion? By caring about theirs and giving them more freedom to spread their bullshit ideology? Get out of here with that "if you are against fascists then you are also a fascist" bullshit unless you intend to disprove the paradox of tolerance and give arguments on why we should extend our tolerance to people who are openly intolerant. |
149597871Apr 11, 2018 6:33 AM
| I don't think they need to take the memes about Hitler too serious. Most of the times, it's meant to make others laugh and not to harm or offend others. But still, the things that Hitler did against the Jews was REALLY fucked up. Between five and six million Jews were murdered across Europe during the persecution of the Jews by the Nazis. There are people who surprisingly don't know much about this, so they sometimes go too far with the jokes. Keep in mind that some Jews have been directly affected by this regime, others not. |
nongcomApr 11, 2018 12:42 PM
YayaChibi said: As I said, anyone sane is probably not a nazi Not saying that you didn't agree - just saying it's very likely that those users are fucking around lmao lol Lmao I'm sure those people are just carrying out their shitpost lol if anyone on MAL made their actual Nazi views obvious I'm sure someone reported them and the mods shot them a message to turn it down lmao lol People report for anything - especially new users, I'm sure most of them got a warning/are on a ban lol Wow, that's naive. It's not against the forum rules to be a Nazi. Hate speech might be though, but that's not the same thing... |
Clebardman said: TheConquerer said: Well that depends if they have a sense of humour or not since they're people just like you and I. That depends if they have a cringe sense of humor or a decent one (^% Not that I'm against joking on the subject, but I can't say the edgelords with Hitler in their favs have been very funny so far. I added him cause I thought it was ridiculous to have Adolf Hitler in the anime database to begin with. Of course people can be offended by anything these days. |
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TheConquerer said: Clebardman said: That depends if they have a cringe sense of humor or a decent one (^% Not that I'm against joking on the subject, but I can't say the edgelords with Hitler in their favs have been very funny so far. I added him cause I thought it was ridiculous to have Adolf Hitler in the anime database to begin with. Of course people can be offended by anything these days. Didn't even bother to check your profile, sorry if it came off as a personal attack. I guess you're that one user with Hitler in favs who doesn't make me want to close my tab (^: |
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| I dunno. First of all, I'm not Jewish nor know any Jewish descent here. I think most people would know that, it was a meme even on MAL. I dunno but if you see a CE user with Hitler in his/her fav profile... I would suggest it would be better to ignore that user. Other than that, welp, I don't really stalk that much to the userbase of MAL so I wouldn't know if there's a lot of angry users about. Although, I once read a thread that submitted a request to remove Hitler on the database because she's Jewish. It was on the Database forum anime subforum check it if you like. |
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YayaChibi said: I wasn't saying that BEING a nazi gets you banned but expressing your views most of the time includes hate speech(ugh lol), racial slurs, etc on the forum would get reported quickly lmao lol You can clearly express Nazi views without it being hate speech lmao lol |
ManicMayo said: Why just the Jews? Sure, they were the highest on his 'shit list' but Hitler had a penchant for exterminating many different types of people. I think as far as he was concerned, if you weren't Germanic or Japanese, your immunity from any extermination programme the Third Reich churned out couldn't guaranteed. Because the jews love reminding us MUH 6 GRILLLON! |
otakuloserperson said: https://myanimelist.net/people/8700/Adolf_Hitler?q=hitler For the record I'm not trying to advocate for Hitler's removal from the database. I've taken part in the jokes as well. I'm just genuinely curious about how Jewish members feel about it. He has 4,626 faves and counting. I'm German and I find it annoying. I try to get used to it, but still I can't get the joke. If it is your own "not so far away" history, you don't find anything funny about what happend in these days. |
| Ok so western animations are not added to MAL but this is? I didn't even know this was a thing, pretty stupid honestly. Thankfully it's not like Pingu in the City (when that was added everyone kept giving it a 10 as a meme which messes with the database). |
| People only do it for the memes. I don't think it's funny, but it's not offensive either (for me, I'm not sure how Jewish people would react). We should be allowed to make fun of a painful situation, I think. Freedom and speech and all that, even though it's a stupid form of speech. What has favoriting Hitler to do with western animations? If you want to track them so badly, use Kitsu. |
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BalorsCurse said: You’re the one blithering, you have no clue what you’re talking about, you’re just parrotting what you heard some fat SJW say. If there's anyone in this thread who's undecided, may I draw your attention to the way this guy needs to make utterly irrelevant assumptions about peoples' weights. (The assumption that I got those observations from a single person, instead of seeking out a wide range of opinions and gathering and verifying evidence then working it out for myself is also wrong, of course, but there's no possible way to explain the "fat" part without him being full of fascistic hate.) (BTW, BMI of 21 here, last time I checked.) |
aliquae said: What has favoriting Hitler to do with western animations? If you want to track them so badly, use Kitsu. I actually don't want to see western animations on MAL. I was just stating that western animations aren't (even though some have some valid points for bringing them up) but Nazi propaganda is able to be added to the database which I find pretty dumb. They say that "western animations" are not belonging here but some DB moderator thought it was ok to add Hitler's journal to the database. It's pretty sour. Mein Kampf is Nazi propaganda through and through. It's literally Hitler's journal and how he wanted to bring in Nazism to Germany. While I typically don't care about such things I have to question the audacity of whoever thought it was a good idea to approve such an addition. It was very likely that the person suggesting the addition wanted to add it as a meme and I find it pretty silly that it was approved and those wanting to bring in western animations were told no (even though they had some "fair" reasons behind why it should be here). |
DarkShadowBlade said: I actually don't want to see western animations on MAL. I was just stating that western animations aren't (even though some have some valid points for bringing them up) but Nazi propaganda is able to be added to the database which I find pretty dumb. They say that "western animations" are not belonging here but some DB moderator thought it was ok to add Hitler's journal to the database. It's pretty sour. Mein Kampf is Nazi propaganda through and through. It's literally Hitler's journal and how he wanted to bring in Nazism to Germany. While I typically don't care about such things I have to question the audacity of whoever thought it was a good idea to approve such an addition. It was very likely that the person suggesting the addition wanted to add it as a meme and I find it pretty silly that it was approved and those wanting to bring in western animations were told no (even though they had some "fair" reasons behind why it should be here). Ah well. I just thought the change of topic was a bit strange :P Well, in the end it's because Hitler is a reoccuring character in anime, and thus he's allowed to stay in the website. Western animation isn't Japanese. So I guess that's MAL's logic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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changelog_ said: Don't remove him from MAL. The sole reason being is that his book, Mein Kampf, was the basis of a Japanese manga publication. Therefore, he has every right to be on MAL. I don't think any reason related to racism or the holocaust is a valid reason to remove a person from a database. Whether it's bad or not, a database should include as much accurate data as possible. It wouldn't make sence to remove him because you would find him as character as well, if its in anime or manga, it doesn't make any difference. Billy bat, Drifters, Mangas from Shigeru-sensei or Tezuka-sensei. So if someone wants, for what reason ever, have him in it's favorites they could do it anyway. |
YayaChibi said: deadprez said: You can clearly express Nazi views without it being hate speech lmao lol You can, but ita likely a slip up is gonna happen somewhere lol I don't even know what this disscussion is about anymore lmao lol No, you can't. People usually don't know the definitions of the terms they are using. "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." @deadprez |
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149597871 said: No, you can't. People usually don't know the definitions of the terms they are using. "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." Hate speech is a crime. Why haven't the likes of Nyu been banned yet then? By the way, to say something like "I love Hitler and his politics" is not hate speech. |
149597871 said: YayaChibi said: You can, but ita likely a slip up is gonna happen somewhere lol I don't even know what this disscussion is about anymore lmao lol No, you can't. People usually don't know the definitions of the terms they are using. "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." @deadprez So when we talk bad about Nazis, ISIS or paedophiles we are practising hate speech. Glad to know. |
deadprez said: 149597871 said: No, you can't. People usually don't know the definitions of the terms they are using. "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." Hate speech is a crime. Why haven't the likes of Nyu been banned yet then? By the way, to say something like "I love Hitler and his politics" is not hate speech. Monad said: 149597871 said: No, you can't. People usually don't know the definitions of the terms they are using. "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." @deadprez So when we talk bad about Nazis, ISIS or paedophiles we are practising hate speech. Glad to know. Oh you two... good to see Monad's protection reflex of throwing straw mans is still working. But it clearly says "writing that expresses prejudice", I think a native speaker won't have much problem with that sentence. Nyu was banned for 5 days actually, I don't know the reason, but in every other normal forum he would be most likely permanently banned after the first few posts, the way it should be. MAL team doesn't really care about CD or CE and believes in "absolute freedom of speech" bs. Don't use someone's incompetence to excuse hate speech please. "I love Hitler and his politics" is not hate speech. Since we know what his "politics" are about one can argue on that considering the definition of hate speech. |
aliquae said: DarkShadowBlade said: I actually don't want to see western animations on MAL. I was just stating that western animations aren't (even though some have some valid points for bringing them up) but Nazi propaganda is able to be added to the database which I find pretty dumb. They say that "western animations" are not belonging here but some DB moderator thought it was ok to add Hitler's journal to the database. It's pretty sour. Mein Kampf is Nazi propaganda through and through. It's literally Hitler's journal and how he wanted to bring in Nazism to Germany. While I typically don't care about such things I have to question the audacity of whoever thought it was a good idea to approve such an addition. It was very likely that the person suggesting the addition wanted to add it as a meme and I find it pretty silly that it was approved and those wanting to bring in western animations were told no (even though they had some "fair" reasons behind why it should be here). Ah well. I just thought the change of topic was a bit strange :P Well, in the end it's because Hitler is a reoccuring character in anime, and thus he's allowed to stay in the website. Western animation isn't Japanese. So I guess that's MAL's logic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Fair point but there's a difference when you have Hitler appearing in an anime versus literal Nazi propaganda being in the database... 149597871 said: "I love Hitler and his politics" is not hate speech. Since we know what his "politics" are about one can argue on that considering the definition of hate speech. The only speech that is hate speech is speech that openly defends or promotes violence. Mine Kampf literally talks about the purging of "inferior elements", he even writes about "doing the lord's work by fighting off the Jews". It is hate speech. That book is one of the key elements that led to Nazi Germany which in turn resulted in the most destructive war in humanity. It has no place being mentioned on this site because of what it's about and what it promotes (the purging of Jews and promotion of Nazism (which is fascism but with extra steps)), the only place that book should be mentioned/found is in libraries, history books, and museums (not to promote such ideologies but so rather people can be educated about how the Nazi movement got started in Germany). Edit: Added in a couple more words. |
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DarkShadowBlade said: aliquae said: Ah well. I just thought the change of topic was a bit strange :P Well, in the end it's because Hitler is a reoccuring character in anime, and thus he's allowed to stay in the website. Western animation isn't Japanese. So I guess that's MAL's logic. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Fair point but there's a difference when you have Hitler appearing in an anime versus literal Nazi propaganda being in the database... 149597871 said: Since we know what his "politics" are about one can argue on that considering the definition of hate speech. The only speech that is hate speech is speech that openly defends or promotes violence. Mine Kampf literally talks about the purging of "inferior elements", he even writes about "doing the lord's work by fighting off the Jews". It is hate speech. That book is one of the key elements that led to Nazi Germany which in turn resulted in the most destructive war in humanity. It has no place being mentioned on this site because of what it's about and what it promotes (the purging of Jews), the only place that book should be mentioned/found is in libraries, history books, and museums (not to promote such ideologies but so rather people can be educated about how the Nazi movement got started in Germany). Well... unfortunately I don't think the database works this way. I mean I won't miss it if they delete it but I don't they will as long as it is from a Japanese author. There are also plenty of works with 7-year-olds getting raped or worse and one can argue whether they promote pedophilia but nobody cares about that either. It's "database" after all, all kinds of fucked up shit are accepted. Except femdom hentai - they are evil so nobody will ever bother adding those. (sarcasm btw) Hate speech: (should've read the definition I used) "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." |
149597871 said: DarkShadowBlade said: Fair point but there's a difference when you have Hitler appearing in an anime versus literal Nazi propaganda being in the database... The only speech that is hate speech is speech that openly defends or promotes violence. Mine Kampf literally talks about the purging of "inferior elements", he even writes about "doing the lord's work by fighting off the Jews". It is hate speech. That book is one of the key elements that led to Nazi Germany which in turn resulted in the most destructive war in humanity. It has no place being mentioned on this site because of what it's about and what it promotes (the purging of Jews), the only place that book should be mentioned/found is in libraries, history books, and museums (not to promote such ideologies but so rather people can be educated about how the Nazi movement got started in Germany). Well... unfortunately I don't think the database works this way. I mean I won't miss it if they delete it but I don't they will as long as it is from a Japanese author. There are also plenty of works with 7-year-olds getting raped and worse and one can argue whether they promote pedophilia but nobody cares about that either. It's "database" after all, all kinds of fucked up shit are accepted. Except femdom hentai - they are evil so nobody will ever bother adding those. (sarcasm btw) Hate speech: (should've read the definition I used) "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." While that does sound like some f'd up stuff but it is still considered "free speech" because the writings themselves are not promoting or defending child rapists. If they are then this another issue. Also it doesn't make sense that a "Japanese author" put it up. Mine Kampf (which is what this whole thing is about) was written by Adolf Hitler himself. Just because someone drew a manga doesn't make them the author, they're the illustrator. Now if they were making a satire out of his original book then that is a different story but it's not... It's a damn manga adaption of one of the most heinous books in human history. As for your definition of hate speech, that is the more "commonly accepted" definition of hate speech. However I have come to disagree with that definition because I found that if I were to, for example, write an essay on why I don't think women should be serving in a combat position in the military I will be accused of hate speech because I am "expressing prejudice towards a group based on their sex". I was not promoting violence against said group but merely stating my viewpoint however by your definition I am guilty of hate speech. I don't think that's right hence why I was using a different definition (which is more commonly used in the US) to get my point across. However, that is just my opinion on the definition and I'm sure everyone will have their own variation of what they believe hate speech is but we can all agree that defending or promoting violence is hate speech. |
DarkShadowBlade said: 149597871 said: Well... unfortunately I don't think the database works this way. I mean I won't miss it if they delete it but I don't they will as long as it is from a Japanese author. There are also plenty of works with 7-year-olds getting raped and worse and one can argue whether they promote pedophilia but nobody cares about that either. It's "database" after all, all kinds of fucked up shit are accepted. Except femdom hentai - they are evil so nobody will ever bother adding those. (sarcasm btw) Hate speech: (should've read the definition I used) "Abusive or threatening speech or writing that expresses prejudice against a particular group, especially on the basis of race, religion, or sexual orientation." While that does sound like some f'd up stuff but it is still considered "free speech" because the writings themselves are not promoting or defending child rapists. If they are then this another issue. Also it doesn't make sense that a "Japanese author" put it up. Mine Kampf (which is what this whole thing is about) was written by Adolf Hitler himself. Just because someone drew a manga doesn't make them the author, they're the illustrator. Now if they were making a satire out of his original book then that is a different story but it's not... It's a damn manga adaption of one of the most heinous books in human history. As for your definition of hate speech, that is the more "commonly accepted" definition of hate speech. However I have come to disagree with that definition because I found that if I were to, for example, write an essay on why I don't think women should be serving in a combat position in the military I will be accused of hate speech because I am "expressing prejudice towards a group based on their sex". I was not promoting violence against said group but merely stating my viewpoint however by your definition I am guilty of hate speech. I don't think that's right hence why I was using a different definition (which is more commonly used in the US) to get my point across. However, that is just my opinion on the definition and I'm sure everyone will have their own variation of what they believe hate speech is but we can all agree that defending or promoting violence is hate speech. Hmm... you can argue whether or not they are defending the rapist, most of them don't but some of them have very fucked up endings and can lead to different conclusions. Besides I can do without all the child porn no matter the "moral of the story". Well... I agree about the second point. Well no... the third one I have to disagree. I've said it multiple times, just because you are not being rude doesn't mean it is not hate speech. "My neighbor is a n*gger" - hate speech "I don't think black people should be allowed to vote because they have lower IQ" - perfectly okay. Sorry but no I would even argue that the second is far worse than the first. And yes, writing an essay on why women should not be allowed to serve in the military is pretty sexist and misogynistic. But since you are already here you can tell me your "key points" of your essay and I will tell you whether or not it's hate speech or how much bullshit there is in them. I don't tolerate such behavior. |
149597871Apr 12, 2018 6:37 AM
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Voki said: I think most people on MAL (Jewish or not) don't give a serious fuck about him. Agreed, heck even my cousin (who is Jewish) and I talk about war (alot of it being around WW2) mostly about how certain things could have played out differently if certain things changed and even alot of brutal executions like how William Wallace and other Scotsmen executed British soldiers. Sorry for going off topic I guess, just an example on what we talk about but yeah we do that with WW2 as well like with a Scottish Solider named Mad Jack Churchill (which if I remember correctly is where the beer was named Mad Jack comes from.) went in and was both feared and even Hitler knew about him. Yeah I guess I went off topic sorry about that, I strongly agree with you at this point most of the soldiers and even the people who were born during that time have passed away and it's all water under the bridge for the most part. (imo) |
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