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| THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE. ---------------------------------------- Oh boy, Kale went into her berserk mode again. Freiza's opponent is laughable this episode tbh. I mean, that Power Ranger getup... I have to admit though, Caulifla and Kale working together on the same page is a dangerous duo. Loved the soundtrack for this episode especially when Goku was trying to land his energ attack on Caulifla. |
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| Not a bad episode, but I hate Caulifla/Kale so much. Top 3 of my most hated chars with Ribrianne. |
| So a base form fusion between Caulifla and Kale is enough to completely make a mockery of a Super Saiyan God? This is so stupid. On the bright side the episode looked good at least. Still I'm on the verge of dropping this garbage. Even GT had more consistency. |
| Just rewatched GT and I have to admit, GT actually had a sense of danger to it. We all know Goku isn't full power rn. Kale and Caulifla are annoying af and they're planning on dragging this tournament to march. I love dragon Ball but not a fan if what's happening here so far. In the other hand I love how Vegeta wasn't alarmed of Kales power up in the slightest. Tells me Goku only felt surprised because he's weak rn. Im also really disliking Kale's obsession with Caulifla. It isn't gross or anything but it's as annoying as Rebrianne and her universe Just an afterthought. Caulifla got fucked against God Goku, Kale carried her ass lmao. |
ReguIusNov 4, 2017 6:47 PM
| A great episode over all. I do love Kale and Caulifla, and the idea of them using the potara earrings. The greatest thing about this episode to me though was the animation, it was really good for the most part. They have really out done themselves with animation since the special. Its especially good if you compare it to the start of super. |
| Great animation and art this episode, though some of the events in it are kind of asspull-ish. Probably the weakest episode post Jiren vs Goku, but I'd still give it a 4/5. Next week's ep should be pretty awesome. |
| Thats really not a fair/balance fusion right there because Caulifla still at level SS2 and tired while Broly Mode already more than Blue. And she calling it her power is more laughable because most of the power come from Kale. Another upgrade i can't understand anymore for Dragon Ball. How did Broly Mode + exhaustion SS2 = normal mode of fusion strong enough to toying with Red? Of course Blue + Kaioken will lose because even without Broly Saiyan mode they can beat Goku Red. |
| Into the Internet! |
| o look it's another episode where the power scalers will have a field day. also the inconsistency gotten so bad that i can't help but hate kale & caulifla now even though i never cared about them in the first place but shit is getting annoying tbh. |
| If you look at this episode from an action standpoint, yeah it was good but from a consistency standpoint? This is by far the worst written episode of Super so far. Kale and Caulifla are literally the spawns of random, instantaneous fuckgirl level power ups out of nowhere without any legitimate logic anywhere. Plus, technically the use of the Potara earnings and a Potara fusion should be considered an illegal move given that Kefla is a new warrior entirely despite being made up of two people. Kale's source of power is "Notice me senpai" and Caulifla is just "because I'm an overbearing older sister type" both probably being writer inserts. But hey, can't wait to see all of this shit debunked in the manga. |
| Don't believe the hype. |
| I was happy that Toei finally made the power scale more consistent when they showed SS2 Goku holding his own against Berserk Kale and SS2 Caulifla, and then SSG Goku dominated them. But then the Potara fusion unreal power jump happened... base form Kefla toying with SSG Goku? It would make more sense if Kefla was in her super saiyan form. Gotta love all the Freiza moments in this arc though. Goku and Freiza's interactions are always so interesting to watch. I hope Toei will actually dedicate some episodes to Vegeta vs Toppa. |
| One of the best episodes in super. Just amazing. |
| You guys need to take a chill pill and enter the hype train full on! A FEMALE FUSED SAIYAN! What else do you want?! <333 |
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| Kale and Caulifla are basically the Haxx Saiyans of DBS, next they're gonna go Super Saiyan Blue... Considering that Vados doesn't seem at all concerned with them using the Potara earrings, I don't think it's against the rules to use them after all. PLS TOEI DO THE RIGHT THING AND GIVE US VEGITO!!!! |
"At some point, I stopped hoping." |
| Loved it. Love the two Saiyan girls. Animation has been so good the past few episodes, I'm starting to think Toei is aware of the ridicule its been getting. |
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wow they bring back the muscular character designs/drawings from some of the awesome fights of the old Dragonball Z like this one, too bad its only for some scenes and not the whole episode  i already like this new girl Kefla, what a sexy badass saiyan woman but ye Kefla is just a test for Goku to reach Ultra Instinct again anyway lol |
| I don't mind by the fact that Kefla's beating SSG Goku at the moment since they want to show off how strong the fusion is. But, I'm surprised that Potara Earrings are allowed since items are banned in the Tournament? Or are the Zenos going to let it slide since it looks cool? Not going to lie, Kefla's design looks lazy. |
| Mankind knew that they cannot change society. So instead of reflecting on themselves, they blamed the beasts. |
| For the first time in my life, I find myself rooting for Frieza. Freaking Frieza of all people. XD I honestly starting laughing when they said Kefla, I don't know. I think I find the name funny for whatever reason. xD I used to like Caulifla but lately I haven't been able to get behind either her or Kale. Action was quite good this episode and the art was really really good. Pretty surprising for Toei standards. |
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Potara fusion earrings are allowed? well in episode 105 Zeno says its safe to use a bottle for the Mafuba anyway lol |
bailin10 said: I think they are doing it just for the fanservice. And I'm. Totally. OK. With that <3Nostalgik said: I hope they're not going for the feminist route just for the sake of being feminist. It's okay some power ups during fights. But their base forms weren't that powerful and potara = can't sense limits? Come on. They shouldn't be able to toy SSJ GOD.You guys need to take a chill pill and enter the hype train full on! A FEMALE FUSED SAIYAN! What else do you want?! <333 I don't care at this point about power scaling LOL Trying to criticize Dragon Ball Super at this point is like a dead meme |
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chunng said: I was happy that Toei finally made the power scale more consistent when they showed SS2 Goku holding his own against Berserk Kale and SS2 Caulifla, and then SSG Goku dominated them. But then the Potara fusion unreal power jump happened... base form Kefla toying with SSG Goku? It would make more sense if Kefla was in her super saiyan form. Gotta love all the Freiza moments in this arc though. Goku and Freiza's interactions are always so interesting to watch. I hope Toei will actually dedicate some episodes to Vegeta vs Toppa. Totally agree. The strength difference between Caulifla and Kale is pretty big too, I can't see how they can get THAT MUCH of a power up with their fusion tbh. Oh well, at least the animation is amazing, I hope that can keep it like that throughout the tournament. |
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GreenEmu said: So a base form fusion between Caulifla and Kale is enough to completely make a mockery of a Super Saiyan God? This is so stupid. On the bright side the episode looked good at least. Still I'm on the verge of dropping this garbage. Even GT had more consistency. Right. Because Goku WASN’T hurt and tired from Jiren. Uh huh. Sure. /sarcasm. This fanbase is sad. DB is a really simple show. It’s pretty sad that the fanbase is somehow even simpler. |
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| Don't think the power of Kefla is exaggerated, I mean let's go back to the Buu saga,where a Vegeto was able to wipe the floor with a Mystic Gohan Super Buu,who was way too strong for Goku and Vegeta on their own,even in his base form. It seemed like Vegeto wasn't even using half of his power then,sooo..the only thing bothering me is rather that a weakened Goku was able to keep up with Caulifla and a LSSK Kale. Art looked pretty nice imo and the fight was quite entertaining,even tho they wasted to much time for the fusion to happen,could also been done last week. And kinda sad that Frieza couldn't have his fun,poor guy is still waiting for a proper opponent xD |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Blue can't be defeated! Kefla is too OP |
| I can see why some would be displeased with the 'Power scaling' especially when this episode seemed to actually be getting it right... but at the same time as others have said look back to the buu saga and it doesnt seem that outlandish + tired and injured goku im not surprised and I am fairly sure we all see this as the fight to help goku learn to master or at least learn to use at will his 'new instinct' ability. Would appear Goku really wants to train with these two outside of hte tourny as well.. Goku gets Caulifla and Kale and Vegeta gets Cabba lol Also the animation was great this ep. |
| Power Scales are fucked since Android Saga. and here we are. i loved the concept of those saiyan girls that yes will be the ones that helps goku to get the Ultra Instinct again. And Goku is just surprised not that the fussion in base form is stronger that the SSG. |
FMmatron said: the only thing bothering me is rather that a weakened Goku was able to keep up with Caulifla and a LSSK Kale. It makes sense Goku could keep up even in weakened states though. His base form is supposed to be many times stronger than SSG back in battle of gods. He should be able to wipe the floor with Caulifla and Kale when they didn't even know what a super saiyan is hours ago and didn't receive any god level training. |
| People sriously don't understand fusion. Kefla makes total sense. You got to remember that Buu in that time absorbed Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan and he was superior to them but Vegetto was much much more powerful than them (God level for me, just that the concept didn't exist in the time). Goku was SSJ3 in that time with Vegeta SSJ2. Black and Zamasu was the same with them being extremely powerful with Black being the bigger resource of power in this case. Potara augmented the power much more again and he was absolutely powerful. Same with Vegetto, again, in the same arc. Now with this arc we have Caulifla that is a SSJ2 and Kale that is absolutely god level with her transformation in controlled berserk since she was able to fight him while Caulifla was stomped. With her power being the most source, she was absolutely powerful for the third time. So yeah, Potara fusion makes you really stronger if you're a Saiyan. It's not a plothole or a asspull, it's totally coherent with what happened in the past. If Goten and Trunks had a potara, their transformation would be much more powerful than Gotenks, for example. |
caio_ken said: People sriously don't understand fusion. Kefla makes total sense. You got to remember that Buu in that time absorbed Gotenks, Piccolo and Gohan and he was superior to them but Vegetto was much much more powerful than them (God level for me, just that the concept didn't exist in the time). Goku was SSJ3 in that time with Vegeta SSJ2. Black and Zamasu was the same with them being extremely powerful with Black being the bigger resource of power in this case. Potara augmented the power much more again and he was absolutely powerful. Same with Vegetto, again, in the same arc. Now with this arc we have Caulifla that is a SSJ2 and Kale that is absolutely god level with her transformation in controlled berserk since she was able to fight him while Caulifla was stomped. With her power being the most source, she was absolutely powerful for the third time. So yeah, Potara fusion makes you really stronger if you're a Saiyan. It's not a plothole or a asspull, it's totally coherent with what happened in the past. If Goten and Trunks had a potara, their transformation would be much more powerful than Gotenks, for example. Yeah, I think people see the SSJ2 in DBS as DBZ SSJ2 level and that's where the mistake comes from. As absurd as it is, base Cabba was stated to be slightly weaker than base Vegeta in the U6 arc. That base Vegeta who toyed with SSJ3 Gotenks and now imagine in SSJ forms. It's the way DBS went in the anime, this is why I always advice not to focus too much in DBS power levels xD |
THANKS SENPIEX  |
| I wished they stop emphasizing that they are lesbian. Its stupid how Vegeta and Frieza haven't wiped the floor with everyone else in this tournament yet. I mean, we all know only Jiren is an actual threat. |
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KaiserNazrin said: I wished they stop emphasizing that they are lesbian. Its stupid how Vegeta and Frieza haven't wiped the floor with everyone else in this tournament yet. I mean, we all know only Jiren is an actual threat. They're not lesbians lol, they're friends. I don't know what you're saying |
| This episode was great. The animation was FANTASTIC!! Love the fight scenes and fusion. Wished Goku could've used SSJ 3, but w/e. Wanted to see Kale and/or Caulifla fight Frieza. This has been the best episode I've seen in a while. Hope they keep it up, especially the animation. |
| I ship @Cewkie and @DarkZeroCalibur  |
| Just a few days ago, if that, Kale and Caulifa didn't even know what super saiyan was. Now look at this fuckery... Impatentiently waiting for Freiza to knock them off. |
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| Also that Robot guy is a parody off of an anime.. I forgot the name of it though.. It was like a boy in a blue and grey mecha outfight fighting some woman in red and grey.. dang I forgot it..do any one know what I'm referring to? |
| I ship @Cewkie and @DarkZeroCalibur |
| Not even gonna question how this makes sense, but okay cool episode nonetheless! |
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| Felt rather rushed.... I like Kale's base look, but I agree with everyone else who said she and Cali were annoying. |
chunng said: FMmatron said: the only thing bothering me is rather that a weakened Goku was able to keep up with Caulifla and a LSSK Kale. It makes sense Goku could keep up even in weakened states though. His base form is supposed to be many times stronger than SSG back in battle of gods. He should be able to wipe the floor with Caulifla and Kale when they didn't even know what a super saiyan is hours ago and didn't receive any god level training. But not with Kale and her legendary form (even Jiren reacted towards her KI) and especially not with both. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Eh far from being great. It had ugly stills and the sequence of Goku's ki ball following and hitting Califula (spelling) was really mediocre if not bad. |
| Dayum shit bout to go down *__* |
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