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Sep 24, 2017 10:01 AM
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This isn't a trigger topic. This is a legitimate question.

With many westerners watching anime, do you think studio's should be reviewing how they target their audience, as generally the first hurdle of success for a series is to be watched & enjoyed domestically. and even before then the manga needs to be reasonably well circulated within Japan.

My friend @Samurl made some good points about how the canadian board of tourism is using the studio who did Kimi no na wa to promote tourism in Canada & there was a McDonalds recruitment video using anime.

But yeah, overall, do you think your opinion matters really?

Sep 24, 2017 10:01 AM
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no , japan don't give a shit about us :)
Sep 24, 2017 10:02 AM
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No.

Pretty sure the West is still far from having any relevant effect on what actually gets produced in Japan. This might change if Netflix/Amazon get big enough, though. The only non-Japanese market sizable enough to have a significant impact on where anime will be in 3-5 years is China.
Sep 24, 2017 10:06 AM
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No~ Japan don't care about us... But I think they should since the Western world has a much greater number of anime fans than Japan... Since they have a bigger populous and lower median age... If they want to expand and make more profit... They should cater to all audiences, Japan and Western alike
Sep 24, 2017 10:09 AM
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Overall? I don't think Japan cares much.
Probably more than before with expanding markets, but hardly, or so it feels to me.
Sep 24, 2017 10:49 AM
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Not really because I don't pour nearly enough money into anime compared to the amount I watch.
At least as it stands right now most of what's popular in Japan also tends to click with westerners so they don't really need to do any drastic changes to cater. They can still get pretty solid profits from licensing and distributing stuff that's already popular.
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Sep 24, 2017 11:00 AM
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They dont care much about the westeners unlike they used too.
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Sep 24, 2017 11:47 AM
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not for individual westerners, unless they buy the 10000 yen blu rays, then you have a 1/10000 say in teh anime's future which is quite a lot

there's also the space dandy and trigun movie which need to be remembered in any such thread
Sep 24, 2017 12:29 PM
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Of course they don't care , WHO WOULD EVEN CARE ABOUT DISGUSTING WEEBS RIGHT?
Sep 24, 2017 12:32 PM

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were not most of their income so prob not...
Sep 24, 2017 12:32 PM

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Dude your (us, as a west) opinion doesn't matter even on MAL, then how do you think it will affect Nippon ?

tragedydesu said:
no , japan don't give a shit about us :)

And it should stay that way.
Sep 24, 2017 12:49 PM
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It could, if we were a bigger piece of pie.

But with the current business model... no. I'd say our opinion probably matters between 0 and 1%.
Sep 24, 2017 1:12 PM

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I believe Western opinion, or rather overseas opinion overall, matters significantly to the anime industry. The Association of Japanese Animators published industry estimates for 2015 and 2016. The link below shows this:
http://aja.gr.jp/english/japan-anime-data

In the second page of the "Anime Industry Report 2016 Summary" file on that page, it shows that the industry was valued at 1,826 billion yen in 2015. Of that, 583.3 billion yen are attributed to "Overseas". That's approximately 31.9% of total revenue. While 2015 received a big overseas boost due to China, the overseas revenue has been increasing since 2009 (with dips in 2011 and 2012).

I'm not sure about others, but I imagine that companies do care about 31.9% of their revenue (production committees certainly do). The article also breaks down contracts by individual countries (page 6). In 2015, the two biggest countries were the United States with 289 contracts and China with 286 contracts. After Japan, I would guess that those two countries have the next highest influence on the industry.

Sep 24, 2017 1:22 PM

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yep none japanese fans matters now since anime is going global, and big companies like Netflix and Amazon are investing on anime now too

heck you will hear news saying that legal streaming license fees can already do break-even profit for some anime shows

so money talks
Sep 24, 2017 1:34 PM

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If they gave a shit about us , they would make the tsunderes lose

Isn't that right @tragedydesu ?


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Sep 24, 2017 1:38 PM

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One day will people look back and say "They gave birth to the correctness, and end of the free speech in anime, that is how good anime was before coming of western influence", and we answer did you watch it on Netflix or Funimation ?
Sep 24, 2017 1:40 PM

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S-quare22 said:
If they gave a shit about us , they would make the tsunderes lose

Isn't that right @tragedydesu ?

westerners are also obsessed with tsunderes
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Sep 24, 2017 1:45 PM

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No, and it's fine that way, to be honest.
Sep 24, 2017 1:47 PM

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tragedydesu said:
S-quare22 said:
If they gave a shit about us , they would make the tsunderes lose

Isn't that right @tragedydesu ?

westerners are also obsessed with tsunderes
i'm doomed for life


I dont think so , ppl on MAL are always complaining and its the same case in some other sites like animeplanet , just look at the dislikes in the tsundere characters pages . This is a popular opinion my friend


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Sep 24, 2017 1:53 PM
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yes they do. because they read all the bad reviews about their SoL anime and punish them selves for wasting animes' potential in making these SoL anime
and also because japan is doomed and are dumber than the americans and russians

its just a matter of days b4 N.Korea drops nukes on them. cant wait
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Sep 24, 2017 1:55 PM

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Im pretty sure if you have money your opinion would slightly matter
also if you could spread influence to a great enough effect it could matter but I wouldn't know what it would take to reach those lengths
Sep 24, 2017 2:04 PM

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@S-quare22
we are in the minority
by Mal you can see that they are extremely popular and have so much fav
the most popular female character is a tsundere after all
Sep 24, 2017 2:07 PM

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it matters because i'm not a westerner
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Sep 24, 2017 2:15 PM

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agilityredfox said:
This isn't a trigger topic. This is a legitimate question.

With many westerners watching anime, do you think studio's should be reviewing how they target their audience, as generally the first hurdle of success for a series is to be watched & enjoyed domestically. and even before then the manga needs to be reasonably well circulated within Japan.

My friend @Samurl made some good points about how the canadian board of tourism is using the studio who did Kimi no na wa to promote tourism in Canada & there was a McDonalds recruitment video using anime.

But yeah, overall, do you think your opinion matters really?


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Sep 24, 2017 7:05 PM

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No singular person's taste matter. That's just how entertainment work.

The western market as a whole matters a little but not much. The sway of the buying power of Western markets have clearly influenced a few season 2 to be produced, but it will never be the main target of animation studios as a whole.

That said, the importance of western markets will only wane, giving way to the growing number of anime viewers from China and South East Asian regions.
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Sep 26, 2017 1:34 PM

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I don't care if the studios care about my opinions or reviews. I write them to arrange my thoughts, and so to use as a jumping-off point to start discussions about art and life. So no, your question doesn't matter at all.

Just because the producer of the art doesn't care about my opinion doesn't mean I don't need to have one.
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Sep 26, 2017 1:36 PM

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No, I don't think so. They made anime intended for their audience originally, so...





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Sep 26, 2017 2:58 PM

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My opinion on anime is about as valid as a Non-American's opinion on Hollywood movies.
Sep 26, 2017 3:57 PM

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I'm glad that Japan doesn't care about western interests, the whole reason I watch anime is to get away from the stifling and sanitized political correctness in western entertainment.
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Sep 26, 2017 4:13 PM

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90% sure it don't matter what so ever to them but what do i know?
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Sep 26, 2017 4:16 PM
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Part of me finds solace in the idea that Japan doesn't really listen to the west, because I'm pretty heavily convinced by the type of ideas expressed on AD so often that it'd only be a net loss for me, but at the same time I feel that it'd be stupid not to try discuss things or attempt to form a halfway decent opinion on something solely because of the impression that Japan views the west as entirely irrelevant.

So I guess, based on what I know at least, yeah, as a westerner my opinion is pretty irrelevant in terms of being able to change things about the industry, but I'm fine with that by and large so meh. I'll still try to at least try t to not be full of shit whenever I want to say something, though.

Sep 26, 2017 5:16 PM

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Well, it matters to local anime distributors in my own country so they know what we want to see and what to license, but Japan would only care if a US company here decided to throw money at an animation studio to animate more of something.
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Sep 26, 2017 5:23 PM

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can't really group all of anime like that

some shows were really helped by western audiences
most weren't

but grouping it all together is pointless

Sep 26, 2017 5:46 PM

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If they cared, Digibro would've been skyrocketed in popularity at niconico just to rip a new one lul
Sep 26, 2017 5:51 PM

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Money talks... and westerner doesn't really give much money yet... if you want your voice heard, then start investing...
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Sep 26, 2017 6:14 PM
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Swagernator said:
One day will people look back and say "They gave birth to the correctness, and end of the free speech in anime, that is how good anime was before coming of western influence", and we answer did you watch it on Netflix or Funimation ?


Japan shouldn't care about western opinions. Anime is Japanese! I know, it's so hard to believe there's another country.
Goodbye weebs.

I hope the anime industry continues to tell western opinion to piss off.

If anime was done like what the west wanted, there wouldn't be any women in it.. well expect Miley Cyrus. Because well, the feminists like contradicting themselves.
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Sep 26, 2017 6:20 PM

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Fuck no, no one's opinion matters, even if your asian.
Sep 26, 2017 7:39 PM
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short answer, no
long answer, not at all
Sep 26, 2017 7:45 PM

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Whether anything “matters” (is of importance/relevance) depends on the context. If I attend an anime club meeting in Canada, then the opinions of Westerners matter a great deal, as the club would not exist without them.
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