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Mouloxas said: Minami-Nan said: Definition of rehash: a reuse of old ideas or material without significant change or improvement. I disagree with following the exact same path as Yuzuki. One thing we have to agree here, is that there are some requirements to become Hell Girl. You can't expect Yuzuki, Ai and Michiru to have absolutely nothing in common. Must be why you think it's rehash: find a cute anime girl who got persecuted, with amnesia, show her people being sent to hell, make her become Hell Girl. This is not rehash, it's a process. But they are reusing old ideas. The very concept of finding a Hell Girl succesor was the main theme of season 3. And she did follow the same path as Yuzuki. Both of them didn't want to become Hell girl in the beginning, they struggled against it, remembered their past and in the end accepted their new role. It's just that Yuzuki had 26 episodes to get her story fully fleshed out whereas Michiru had a mere 6 episodes. Only the final outcome is different. And different outcome doesn't represent significant change or improvement. It's all about the journey, not the destination. Minami-Nan said: Rehash would be going through countless candidates and never finding someone else as a successor (or colleague) to Ai, which happened once only. I think the fact that it already happened once is enough to call it a rehash. Minami-Nan said: The three of them are different and they act differently: Ai is the cold emotionless one, Yuzuki is emotional and vengeful, Michiru is empathetic and optimistic. So far, Michiru is doing nothing like Yuzuki and that is a significant change. Well, you say so far but most probably we will never see Michiru ever again unless her story is continued in the recaps. Or we get another season after 10 years. Michiru doing her job differently compared to Yuzuki was always going to be the case for obvious reasons. The only purpose that served was having Ai and the gang spout some philosophical bullshit about heaven. I really think you are dead set on the show being rehash. Something that happened only once and never again is not and cannot be rehash. It's everything but rehash. Yuzuki failed, Michiru is still Hell Girl. It's different, no matter what happened before, that's a significant change. Also not rehash. If you care so much about the journey over the destination, then season one was full of rehash with Tsugumi having visions, Hajime trying to convince people not to use Hell correspondence and failing while Ai continuously send people to hell. Takuma from season two would be a rehash of Ai if you only care about the journey: same persecution, same crazy people around. I agree with you that the story is disappointing for this season and I don't think I want to watch the recap episodes after this one. The journey was horrible with Michiru, the first two episodes were terrible and could be used to develop her story, even with Yamawaro. This season is far from great but it is a going in a new direction. |
| so this is the end ha? well this season really didn't feel like hell girl at all and that's sad! i think if they didn't add michiru to the story and made this season just about Ai and her crew would've been so much better, they could've revealed a lot of information that we don't know and developed the story more, because i still think the story of Jigoku Shoujo is nowhere close to its end, i really hope there will be a fifth season. i still don't understand why the next 6 episodes are going to be "remakes" or whatever they're called, of course i'll watch them but i think completing the story would've obviously been better, but maybe this means that there will be a new season sometime soon? judging from the ending of the episode. anyways i'm sad seeing season 4 come to an end, Jigoku Shoujo is one of my all time favorite anime ever and it makes feel nostalgic all the time, let's hope for a fifth season soon!! |
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| If the new material ends here then this season was very weak compared to previous seasons |
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| This was a bit less intense episode! Michiru is doing a good job being the new Hell Girl Jogoku Shoujo! 4/5. |
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FOR STORY 10/10  Yes i don't like new hell girl to.... But we will see what will be next |
Mouloxas said: The reason we can't agree is probably because you think Michiru still being Hell Girl is important and represents massive change whereas i don't really care about her ending. However, we can agree on the fact that this season was really bad. Maybe you're right and it's not rehash but still, i think watching something that has many similarities to the previous season just for a different ending and a different point of view from the MC is not worth it. Just imagine if this season was 26 episodes as well. It would have been torture. Yep, at least we can agree on that. You may think I'm stubborn but I still think it's not rehash despite the similarities. I explained before that there are some requirements to be eligible and Yuzuki Ai and Michiru all fit the criteria of being persecuted unfairly hence the similar journey. The ending was abrupt and I think instead of recap episodes or the first two boring as hell episodes with stupid twist, more time could be spent on Michiru's story, her connection to Yamawaro (Michiru's his type that's for sure) and what happens with two Hell Girls. The concept of heaven is interesting as well for characters that only know hell and has never dealt with that. I would love it if there is Heaven correspondence, you send someone to heaven but you are doomed to go to hell when you die. That would be interesting. If anyone wants to pick up on that idea, feel free to do so. |
| What on earth was that? Last time we had 26 episodes to get to know the potential Hell Girl, and now after only 6 episodes Michiru just becomes her? That was a terrible development, we should have had an entire season as well. Besides, what is this about 6 "scents"? We're getting recaps or what? Where is the story? Losing Ai will be tough, I can't imagine this show without her being Hell Girl. |
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| I liked this episode but got to agree that Michiru became Hell Girl too fast. At one moment she was totally against it, then she just agreed to do it out of nowhere. Maybe the reasoning will be explained in a later episode, but I have my doubts. The interesting part is that now we have two Hell Girls, so I'm interested in what's going to happen to Ai. Half-way through the season and this is looking a bit disappointing just like the first and third season. Had expectations this could be as good as the second season one but maybe that just wasn't possible. |
Futari wa Milky Holmes was a mistake Yoshii did nothing wrong |
| Welp she changed her mind fast. But she still talk about heaven and said to the "good" people to not take their revenge, that's not really a good job as hell girl |
| Damn! Even the afterlife is unfair as fuck! Michiru does not deserve to be fated as the new Hell Girl. The people in that town got just what they deserved for killing Michiru and her parents!! So, what happens to Ai Enma now that there's a new Hell Girl? |
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| Too rushed, and really turned out badly, this time the story real mess, Michiru becoming Hell Girl against every reason, and now there is 2 hell girl... Nonsense about going heaven etc.. Story the worst of all makes no sense. I pretend this season never happened and a fan fiction. With about 1 good episode, 1-2 okay, the rest are pure trash |
MikazukiRanbu said: Well. If this is the end, I did not enjoy this season at all. The stories felt random with people in the stories being unrealistically cruel No offense meant but you must be really sheltered if you think these were unrealistically cruel. Not upset common, but serious bullying, rape, assault, elderly abuse, ect.,all happen somewhere in the world on a daily basis. Very realistic, if anything. |
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dustyrice said: The Voice Actress for Michiru, Watada Misaki, mentioned in her Youtube channel that Yoi no Togi will be the climax of the Hell Girl series. God I hope that's not true. Was a seriously depressing finale if so. Ai deserves better. I don't know why they keep trying to give us new Hell Girls. Ai is a big reason people like this series. They really need to evaluate what people love about the original show and work off that again. I don't mind Michiru as a character and having two Hell Girls that do things differently honestly wouldn't be bad but they can't get rid of Ai and they can't just end it the way this episode did. |
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| The episode continues when end the 5,a nd was very nice and how the amnesic girl of the first episode is transformed in a new Jigoku Shoujo.... the character havent the strong and the atractive to Ai, but is interesting to create a "spin off"!!!! xD |
Kougeru said: God I hope that's not true. Was a seriously depressing finale if so. Ai deserves better. I don't know why they keep trying to give us new Hell Girls. Ai is a big reason people like this series. They really need to evaluate what people love about the original show and work off that again. I don't mind Michiru as a character and having two Hell Girls that do things differently honestly wouldn't be bad but they can't get rid of Ai and they can't just end it the way this episode did. I think that by 'climax' refers to the important turning point of the series (that is by making Michiru as the Hell Girl successor, showing the existance of two Hell Girls, & the possibility of the Hell's Crew to be redeemed in Heaven). I really don't think that Jigoku Shoujo will end this way as it would be too abrupt, and cliff-hanging. There are many questions left unanswered such if Ai ever get the chance to finally be free from the Hell Spider's contract, etc. I would be disappointed if they leave us with such, short + less appealing final season for us fans. Though I am still thankful that they've created Michiru though XD Honestly, I still want more Jigoku Shoujo. I hope that there is a sequel announcement in the end of the airing session. |
| Peridot is my favorite Crystal Gem. |
| Those 2 guys were really horrible! One of them even raped the sister of the guy the girl were dating...She went to jail coz she turned off her dad's equipment? So, does it mean, we won't see Ai as hell girl anymore? I hope not... |
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| I agree that the overall story arc was rushed, though IMO perhaps only 1 more episode was needed; it wasn't *that* rushed... I kinda feel like you guys are missing the trees for the forest though. This is really meant to be an episodic anime and y'all keep whining about the overall direction. The overarching storyline really isn't the meat of the series, it's more just a glue to hold the episodes together and occasionally deliver a couple exceptional episodes for the season finale. The heart of the series is in each individual episode, nearly every one of which is crafted as a stand-alone story to enjoy on its own merits. |
| “Money can't buy dere” |
| IT'S NOT THE SAME!!! But damn pretty impressive episode I must say, especially that ending! Really looking forwards to see what will happen next! |
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| I want Ai to stay as hell girl. I know what I'm saying is cruel but she's the only one for the role. |
If you are going to disagree with me, don't bother talking to me. I will seriously hurt you! |
| Unmarked 6/10 Futakomori 10/10 Mitsuganae 7/10 Yoi no togi 9/10 People are hating coz half of the show is recap when you can just see it as a 6 episodes series like I do |
| i enjoyed the previous three seasons this one was pretty terrible |
| Too bad that this series has only 6 new episodes. At least i really like these 6. My final judge: 6/10. |
| "The future is always blank. Only your willpower can leave footsteps there." "Ruling over death means ruling over life. Death is the climax of life. To have the best death, you must honor life." |
| I can understand people hating on it being just 6 episodes but wish they would reasonably continue this arc perhaps it even gave the feeling that would remind of 3rd season it still was great to watch it is what, 12 years since the beginning? and 8 since mitsuganae it still was nice to get them Ippen Shinde Miru |
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| Michiru disappoints me... The development that led Yuzuki to become a Hell Girl was far better planned out. Sucks that Yuzuki got discarded not long after becoming an interesting character. About Kikuri. Is she just the Spider playing along? I mean it's the Spider that wants to assign a new Hell Girl, but Kikuri is against it. Could she be a 2nd personality to the Spider, or perhaps a vessel that is entirely independent? Also, I remember Ai explaining that pulling the string will cause the contractor to "never go to heaven" was that a figure of speech? or is her ignorance of heaven's existence a plot hole? |
| Enma is the only Hell Girl for me, I feel like Michiru became hell girl too fast, was expecting 2 or more episode before something causes her to decide not this. Anyway, I'm assuming the season's done judging by the post credit scene, if that ends up being true, I can't say I'm a huge fan of this season, it was too short... too damn short |
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| Tetsuya's finally making an effort to make things work out for her so she wouldn't need to damn herself to hell like how he did to himself to avenge her sister for getting raped by one of the drunk delinquents that made ramen man a vegetable but she really didn't hesitate on taking the easy way out which was ironically self-damnation. If she took things legally and signed a waiver to allow the staff to end life support, she wouldn't have been arrested and she would've been married to him for the rest of their doomed but happy lives. Michiru was very conflicted about the being the next Hell Girl thing but did the job exactly how Enma would've done it in her first job anyway. It might be because of the realization that there's no escape from it and the psychological effect of being forced to listen to the wind chime from your haunted past ring above her head whenever she tries to run away. I'm somewhat glad that she's actually making an effort to convince others to not make rash decisions later on but I felt pretty down about how she speaks of heaven like she'll go there when the destiny of hell girls is to be bound to this duty. Enma knows it too well, looking at how empty she's become. Kikuri got dumped too ;-; The art's very iffy at times, reminding me of that one Gurren Lagann episode 4 that was outsourced and very eh looking but the stories about the contracts were as good as ever since I enjoyed myself anyway so this one's pretty good. |
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| I thought all the episodes this season were decent, so I think I liked it more overall than season 3. Michiru becoming Hell Girl for seemingly no reason was rushed, but at least it was better than Yuzuki not even completing a single mission at the end of season 3. I also liked Michiru encouraging the kid not to commit suicide. 6/10 |
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| well, with bad budget, and staffs not even caring anymore, this is what you get, this is definitely the worst of all the Jigoku Shoujo series, if it is even part of it, which I don't believe it is. Anyway, i'll just say that this is just a spin off and not part of the main storyline, Jigoku Shoujo ended in Futakomori or Mitsuganae would be even much better. But Michiru being Hell Girl has a different feel to it, she has a different way of doing some things in comparison with how Ai does things. Anyway, still a 8/10 for me, just because I'm a fan of Ai. |
| “What do you do when there is an evil you cannot defeat by just means? Do you stain your hands with evil to destroy evil? Or do you remain steadfastly just and righteous even if it means surrendering to evil?” ― Lelouch Vi Britannia |
| Michiru saying ippe shindemiru sounded so wrong and bad 😂 mostly cause her voice |
Niveen_Sleem said: I want Ai to stay as hell girl. I know what I'm saying is cruel but she's the only one for the role. well it ended with 2hell girls so ai also stays |
| Welllll, this was the end? Only 6 episodes for this with the remaining 6 being just episodes from the last 3 seasons. Where do I even start? First of all I want to get this out. I did not like this season in any way, shape or form. Second of all: how do I put this --- WHERE DID THE PLOT FROM LITERALLY ALL 3 SEASONS GO? This did not make sense at all. I wonder if this actually is in the manga. As you know, at the end of Mitsuganae, Ai saved Yuzuki for a solid reason, she didn't do it just for the sake of doing it. And that's what I liked about Mitsuganae, hence I gaveit 7/10 (there were still problems with it though, but the ending raised the score to 7). Now, Yoi no Togi, this 4th season made no sense. After saving Yuzuki and taking her punishment, the spider told Ai that she will always be Hell Girl until the resentment in this world will have disappeared. But uh, did this season forget that? I mean yes, 8-9 years have passed but you shouldn't forget THE BIGGEST THING that we got out of Mitsuganae. Michiru as a character also didn't make sense. Even if we overlook the fact that Ai should still be hell girl, Michiru went from "Get away from me, I'll never be hell girl" to "Oh yea sure, I never said did but I'm hell girl now". Why? There wasn't a single reason. Even this case wasn't related to Michiru at all because there wasn't a single kid in the equation. What I'm getting out of this is that the 4th season is basically a compensation for the ones that hated Mitsuganae because "Yuzuki didn't become hell girl in the end" and I love the fact that it happened. Ai is hell girl and should be for the rest of this series. Also, these cases were extremely weird. Everything was too brutal, even for that world and Tsugumi didn't make any sense in this season. If you've watched the last 3 seasons, you should know who she is and why she appears in the story. But she didn't help with anything in this case so it's weird. And I still don't really like how Yamawaro went with Michiru but at least she won't be alone. I'll miss Kikuri a lot, same with Wanyuudou, Ren, Ai and Tsuyu (her original name). Also I don't understand what happened to Ai after and why is Wanyuudou the only one with her when clearly in the last season when Yuzuki became Hell Girl for only one case, everyone left with Wanyuudou leaving after when he realized that Yuzuki wasn't doing the right job as hell girl. They should all be together. I still don't know what score to give this season. It will probably be around 5/10. |
Come on man,where is that Noragami season 3 masterpiece.We want it, Bones! |
Sargon_Torchrise said: No. Ai will go to heaven. Ai's crew disbanded so that's it. It will only be Michiru and Yamawaro. We're really out here trying to start discourse over comments that are like 4-6 years old? About a 'mediocre at best fourth season of an anime'? As much as I loved most of this series, I genuinely forgot about this season's existence until you replied to a 5 year old forum post. So you want discourse? Here's your discourse. Sargon_Torchrise said: MomoSinX said: My guess is that there 2 hell girls now since Ai's eyes are still red which implies she didn't become human again. Enma Ai's eyes has always been red from the time she was born. Watch her backstory. As a human, her red eyes were normal. This is just easily debunked and untrue. You can literally check the wiki and see images of her human eyes being brown. Sargon_Torchrise said: Well here's the truth. Gangsters, gold diggers, sexual perverts, control freaks, thuggish physical bullies, cruel emotional verbal bullies, and murderous school bullies do exist. No one said they didn't. There's a difference between being realistic and being overblown. Many seasons of Hell Girl are very good at potraying realistic cruelty without being overly unbelievable. As I said I don't remember this season that well at all because it's not worth remembering, but I do remember that not all potrayals of these situations felt in any way realistic or viable like you're pretending they do. They're not saying these things aren't real, they're saying they aren't potrayed realistically. A lot of Hell Girl is top tier anime, but this season was mediocre. That's okay. Ultimately, no one seems to be quite clear about whether or not Ai has passed on or continues to work side by side with the new Hell Girl. It's debated on just about every forum I can find about the ending. Chill out, man. |
| I like Michiru's dimension. The Taisho era looks awesome! I wonder why she had to kill her father in the end. She ended up going to prison for it as well. Since those couples are going to hell someday, they should make things count and spend their remaining time with each other. 7/10 |
| And in the end, we never got to see Ai's grandmother This season was just them milking the series to death |
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