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Jan 13, 2010 10:57 AM
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whats up with that sirricco guy? is he just a natural playboy or something?
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May 18, 2010 12:54 PM
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Must be the hair..
Jul 29, 2010 8:41 AM
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His name is Paptimus for fuck's sake... how can someone named that way be anything but a clown...
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Jul 29, 2010 8:45 AM
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Paptimus can manipulate women with his newtype abilities.


Aug 2, 2010 2:17 PM
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Fa was actually usefull this time~
Aug 19, 2010 12:22 AM
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Paptimus must like 'pap' exams....
Dec 18, 2010 9:44 AM
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Where the fuck did Amuro go?



XD
Dec 20, 2010 10:45 AM
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Zepwich said:
Where the fuck did Amuro go?



XD
Insane?
Apr 16, 2011 8:42 PM
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One light touch to the cheek and all Gundam women question their core beliefs. In fact, the Paptimus touch begins to define their very way of life from then on.
Apr 16, 2011 9:10 PM
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i Under Stand Why Lord Paptimus is a master Manipulator But i Hate Sarah wost gundam fimale
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I hope we get to see Paptimus background in the near future
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Why did Quattro decide to bring two kids to the Argama and who are they? What's with Tomino and always having annoying children screwing around on the main ship? It would make more sense to send them to a damn orphanage, where they would be safe, instead of having them on board a ship in the middle of a war.
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Fa was useful for once¿ What the hell¿
Nov 11, 2013 10:04 PM

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Wow, Schirocco is crazy playboy. :O I start to like him and his antics.
Feb 4, 2014 12:51 AM

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stAtic91 said:
Why did Quattro decide to bring two kids to the Argama and who are they?

Daddy Char <3
Instead of battles they should have made this a slice of life in which the only thing that happens is Char babysitting a bunch of kids every episode.
10/10 would watch multiple times.
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stAtic91 said:
Why did Quattro decide to bring two kids to the Argama and who are they? What's with Tomino and always having annoying children screwing around on the main ship? It would make more sense to send them to a damn orphanage, where they would be safe, instead of having them on board a ship in the middle of a war.

So that we get more Newtype kids by raising them on space and then they will get their turn on another Gundam installment?

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Daddy Char <3
Instead of battles they should have made this a slice of life in which the only thing that happens is Char babysitting a bunch of kids every episode.
10/10 would watch multiple times.

Also this^
Mar 6, 2014 2:08 PM

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This Mr. Paptimus sure was a moron for letting his hot enemy spy escape

Paptimus is like the most silly name I've ever heard xD
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stAtic91 said:
Why did Quattro decide to bring two kids to the Argama and who are they? What's with Tomino and always having annoying children screwing around on the main ship? It would make more sense to send them to a damn orphanage, where they would be safe, instead of having them on board a ship in the middle of a war.


Yeh was wondering the same thing, this twisted fetish of having children onboard the Hunted Ship is completely illogical and asinine.

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This Mr. Paptimus sure was a moron for letting his hot enemy spy escape


This is yet another ridiculous norm in Gundam, where enemy spies are allowed to escape or are barely guarded/watched. Baka Bakashi
Jul 6, 2014 8:49 PM

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Amazing episode!!

For those who questions why Char brought the two kids, he already mentioned that this kids are from Blex and i assume their mother is already dead so he at least he could take these two and take care of them. He talks about this to Hayato before boarding the shuttle. Were people even paying attention??

Come on now just as last episode i though Kamille and Fa are okay, this happens. At least Fa and Kamille are okay once again. Let's keep it that way shall we??

Paptimus or Scirocco?? Seriously only Sarah calls him Patimus. It definitely has a funny name to it XD

Char is right about Fa. Even though this is military and gender doesn't matter. It still matters in the end since most of the Men do the frontal attacks while women tend to do the support and sneaking missions.

Paptimus seems to know who Reccoa is. I wonder why they didn't put her in the bridge like what AEUG does when a possible spy tries to defect to them.

Sarah is definitely at a disadvantage here. Seems Paptimus has also Newtype powers. Wonder if he's a Newtype, Oldtype or a Cyber-Newtype :P

Fa being useful!!! Keep it up!!

Don't know why Reccoa is trying to redeem herself. I guess the Jaburo mission back then still gets to her.

I want to see more of this teamwork and less "i'll launch by myself and do everything on my onw"

Glad Katz was out of this. Don't want to see any more of that brat's stupidity.

Can't wait for the next episode!
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Why you so thirsty, Scirocco?

Also what's up with that "she is a woman before being a pilot" bsnss? Don't you buy into that gender expectations BS, too, Fa. :(

Reccoa would've failed her infiltration again had Scirocco not found her to his taste. To top it off it's been stated before that she's a subpar pilot. What's even her point if she's also lame at the very thing she's specialized in?
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there is a limit to the suspension of disbelief

And it's the fan that did it. Not the smoking porn reading rubik cube genius rape ape with a magic boat.
Feb 1, 2015 6:44 AM

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So if I've learned anything about the Gundam universe is that escaping from an enemy ship is as easy as taking candy from a baby.. I mean seriously what's with the incompetent soldiers?
Feb 15, 2016 7:08 PM

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Paptimus is getting all the pussies for himself, greedy bastard.
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Paptimus or Scirocco?? Seriously only Sarah calls him Patimus. It definitely has a funny name to it XD

Faptimus hehe
Mar 24, 2016 9:19 AM
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My favorite part of this episode was that Katz wasn't in it. Not a bad episode, but not cream of the crop either. The Power of Paptimus is unleashed upon the women of Gundam! Beware his lilac eyes and beehive hairdo!
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Back and forth between maturity and impulsiveness, that's the way to adulthood. Good luck, Kamille, Fa! (I wasn't expecting much of her, nice change even if I think Camille was right)

I feel deceived. Reccoa seemed to be a serious "soldier" (despite her ineffectiveness as a spy) and now she appears as a weak-minded WOMAN with no ideal! The worse is yet to come if she eventually happens to defect for the other man, I mean side. (that would be a very awkwardly prepared event)
I can see what they were trying to do here with Scirocco/Sirocco (why this "c" after the S?): a charisma monster with instant magnetism like some guru/sect patriarches can be and it was believable with a young isolated girl (Sara) but it looked so absurd when they push it to the extrem with Reccoa.

One light touch to the cheek and all Gundam women question their core beliefs. In fact, the Paptimus touch begins to define their very way of life from then on.

The perfect way yo summ it up.

Also, the speeches about women... was very disturbing. I know it was done in the 80s but this is no excuse.


4/5 because I liked it despite how many times I wanted to laugh and shout at the same time.
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@Rei366

What about Fa? We saw an interesting, realistic dialogue between her and Kamille in episode 11 but after that it became clear than when coming up with her character Tomino simply wrote:

Fa Yuiry:

Woman
Sexy legs*
Clueless**
Annoying

*To be shown at all times
**More than the average woman

And I didn't feel anything changing in this episode. She is still naked and wrong.

By the way, did anyone notice that Scirocco's ship is HUGE? As in, fifteen kilometers long and two kilometers thick? As in, so huge the gravitational acceleration is not negligible near its center of mass? So huge that the Titans would have thousands of extra mobile suits if they hadn't built it?

Seriously, if that thing hit the Earth we would be discussing which of them fell on the other. That thing is so huge that if it fell somewhere the local wildlife would have fled the night before.
Lease_of_LifeJun 8, 2016 12:29 AM
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@Lease_of_Life I thought Fa was a try to make a very slightly "more relevant Fraw" (with the piloting but also some brief sparks of intelligence, not sure what word I could use for that). Of course, even if I was right, the attempt is totally cancelled with her reaction about Reccoa (coming later, I think? or maybe I confuse her with Emma).
About her legs, I know this yellow "outfit" of her, but I actually never noticed the focus on her legs, thanks for pointing it out. XD
The annoying part... I don't think I minded it.
Jun 8, 2016 12:34 AM

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Why you so thirsty, Scirocco?

Also what's up with that "she is a woman before being a pilot" bsnss? Don't you buy into that gender expectations BS, too, Fa. :(

Reccoa would've failed her infiltration again had Scirocco not found her to his taste. To top it off it's been stated before that she's a subpar pilot. What's even her point if she's also lame at the very thing she's specialized in?


She is lame at piloting and disguising herself, but she also seems to have photographic memory. If that is not an useful trait for a spy I don't know what is.
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While there is a further evolution and knowledge of the characters and relationships, you have to emphasize the interim nature of the narrative, so in essence there is no update with regard to the plot. Even Kamille has no moments of times the battles; Sarah is a tough cookie, I'm amazed.
I wonder what is the secret of Scirocco, the appearance seems to be good at reading people's minds.
Nov 22, 2016 10:00 PM

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Very good episode in my opinion, at least. And i am FINALLY beginning to like Fa now!
Next episode looks very intense.
Mar 1, 2017 9:06 AM

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Interesting infiltration I must say! Looking forward to see what happens next.
Jan 26, 2018 3:39 PM

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Zeta Gundam has already established that Scirocco has better control of his newtype abilities compared to anyone else, so I imagine his ways with women stems from that. Still a very weird dude.

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Jan 26, 2018 4:52 PM

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The god guys are very lucky that they didn’t have suffered more casualties after all the blunders the AEUG have done so far…
May 6, 2018 9:22 PM
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Paptimus... Very funny name but it's nothing against BAJEENA! Hahah LOL
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Fa is seriously becoming my fave gundam girl the more she's shown the better she becomes and the more i like her as i said before all she needed was to mature a bit

overall great ep
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I sense Reccoa defecting soon because that's too obvious.

Gotta get used to how easily spies can sneak onto ships and escape from them in Gundam. I guess our Paptimus guy expects Reccoa to come back.
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Amazing episode!!

For those who questions why Char brought the two kids, he already mentioned that this kids are from Blex and i assume their mother is already dead so he at least he could take these two and take care of them. He talks about this to Hayato before boarding the shuttle. Were people even paying attention??

Come on now just as last episode i though Kamille and Fa are okay, this happens. At least Fa and Kamille are okay once again. Let's keep it that way shall we??

Paptimus or Scirocco?? Seriously only Sarah calls him Patimus. It definitely has a funny name to it XD

Char is right about Fa. Even though this is military and gender doesn't matter. It still matters in the end since most of the Men do the frontal attacks while women tend to do the support and sneaking missions.

Paptimus seems to know who Reccoa is. I wonder why they didn't put her in the bridge like what AEUG does when a possible spy tries to defect to them.

Sarah is definitely at a disadvantage here. Seems Paptimus has also Newtype powers. Wonder if he's a Newtype, Oldtype or a Cyber-Newtype :P

Fa being useful!!! Keep it up!!

Don't know why Reccoa is trying to redeem herself. I guess the Jaburo mission back then still gets to her.

I want to see more of this teamwork and less "i'll launch by myself and do everything on my onw"

Glad Katz was out of this. Don't want to see any more of that brat's stupidity.

Can't wait for the next episode!


And of course the best way to protect the children of a dead persecuted politician is hide them in a ship under constant attack in the middle of a war.

I mean, I've been enjoying this series a lot, but Tomino loves to insert some silly things like haros, nonsense children, slaps on military hierarchally above and things like that...
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SomaHeir said:
Amazing episode!!

For those who questions why Char brought the two kids, he already mentioned that this kids are from Blex and i assume their mother is already dead so he at least he could take these two and take care of them. He talks about this to Hayato before boarding the shuttle. Were people even paying attention??

Come on now just as last episode i though Kamille and Fa are okay, this happens. At least Fa and Kamille are okay once again. Let's keep it that way shall we??

Paptimus or Scirocco?? Seriously only Sarah calls him Patimus. It definitely has a funny name to it XD

Char is right about Fa. Even though this is military and gender doesn't matter. It still matters in the end since most of the Men do the frontal attacks while women tend to do the support and sneaking missions.

Paptimus seems to know who Reccoa is. I wonder why they didn't put her in the bridge like what AEUG does when a possible spy tries to defect to them.

Sarah is definitely at a disadvantage here. Seems Paptimus has also Newtype powers. Wonder if he's a Newtype, Oldtype or a Cyber-Newtype :P

Fa being useful!!! Keep it up!!

Don't know why Reccoa is trying to redeem herself. I guess the Jaburo mission back then still gets to her.

I want to see more of this teamwork and less "i'll launch by myself and do everything on my onw"

Glad Katz was out of this. Don't want to see any more of that brat's stupidity.

Can't wait for the next episode!


And of course the best way to protect the children of a dead persecuted politician is hide them in a ship under constant attack in the middle of a war.

I mean, I've been enjoying this series a lot, but Tomino loves to insert some silly things like haros, nonsense children, slaps on military hierarchally above and things like that...


I don't think it's a big deal. It's one of the charms of the Gundam series to have a bunch of kids running around. Plus Char probably thinks that its better to take them since they will be in danger at Earth either way.
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Nice to see Kamille and Fa not fight for one episode. In fact, they worked together quite well! Fa seems to become a decent pilot even, neat.

Reccoa trying to prove herself because of her past failures can only lead to disaster tbh. I'm surprised she even made it out of there. I assume Paptimus (I agree, that name is super dumb) did something to her... Maybe a brainwash thing?
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Some damn fine greenery in Reccoa's room.


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stAtic91 said:
Why did Quattro decide to bring two kids to the Argama and who are they? What's with Tomino and always having annoying children screwing around on the main ship? It would make more sense to send them to a damn orphanage, where they would be safe, instead of having them on board a ship in the middle of a war.
Tomino's anime always have that, so I'm used to it, just like in Ideon. In Ideon the children are more useful to the plot itself, it's not just a relaxed relief like in Gundam. I don't see a problem with that, honestly.

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I think I saw in a review a complaint that many things happen in a single episode, and this episode was an example of that. I think I could have had more screen time on the infiltration, as Reccoa just infiltrated the ship and then left. I don't know if that was really the idea either.
Aug 26, 2023 7:34 AM

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i'm starting to get bored, i don't understand the hype that zeta gundam gets
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Oct 27, 2023 2:27 AM
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Oh boy, Gundam talking about the nature of women again.

If Reccoa truly actually falls in love with Scirocco after he slapped her (Which was their only interaction) then i will have to drop the score of this show by 2 at least. One for writing something so fucking stupid again, and another for something this stupid being highly plot relevant, because seeing who both involved parties are there is no way it wont be.

This is awful.
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Scirocco is such a creep! Damn! Those scenes between Sarah and him reminded me of Sport in Taxi Driver. Eww! Also Reccoa kinda scares me in a different way; she always seems so cold. And now Scirocco might have her too? I liked the old Gelgoog.
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God he really gave me the creep. This episode seems to be focused more on women

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