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Jul 5, 2008 4:05 PM

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THIS IS AN ANIME ONLY DISCUSSION POST. DO NOT DISCUSS THE MANGA BEYOND THIS EPISODE.
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Ok, first off:

1] I cant believe they killed of Katz!

2] And the blondey captain too!!

3] Kamille opens his helmet visor in outer space, WTF!?
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Jul 28, 2008 3:54 AM

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I really didn't understand Kamille opening his helmet, maybe a sign of him just going crazy? ... no idea.

and yeah, definitely didn't see that coming for Katz. Damn.
 
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Aug 12, 2008 10:49 PM

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I went "wtf?" at Kamille opening his helmet as well. And man, 'Casualties of War' couldn't have been a better title for this episode too.




 
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Sep 3, 2008 11:51 AM
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Wow, so many characters were killed off in this episode. Katz, Captain Henken and the Radish, Jerid, and Reccoa. Definitely cleaning house on characters.

The part with Kamille opening his helmet in space was really weird too. I think Kamille just believes he is a super newtype that can somehow breath and live in space without a helmet. Haha

Plus him being able to use his mind to make a barrier around Zeta was crazy. Didn't know that was possible.
 
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Sep 4, 2008 7:33 PM

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Exactly why I love this series so much, not afraid to kill people. I was really shocked by Katz's death. But he was always really reckless and stupid. He never learned his lesson and paid for it.
 
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Jul 19, 2009 5:10 PM

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My expression during this episode:
 
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Jul 20, 2009 6:08 PM

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Jerid didn't die, did he? =/

Katz was too stupid, he died pathetically, that might be a bit harsh but its true. The boy didn't have any sense in that head of his.

It just made more pissed. Katz were foolish and seem that he never ever though about his recklessness and what it could cause. More than never, I feel the he never had the right to lecture Amuro back then.

And about Zeta, what was that? @_@ Zeta's a "super robot" hiding in a "real robot" show? lol




 
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Oct 20, 2009 8:03 PM

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Katz was really reckless but... somehow I couldn't see him dying like that... it was sad, and he was a really good person, and too young...

Man this episode was pure chaos... I didn´t expect so many deaths, even with this title "casualities of war" I was a bit shocked.

About Kamille opening his helmet I think it was to snapp Emma out of it, she was losing control.

Now Kamille going KAIOKEN 100x!!1! was unexpected and epic seriously.

Scirocco... you are going down!

With this said, this episode was one of the best so far, I don't know how they can make the last episode as epic as what we've seen so far. My only complain about this episode was how fast Jerid went down after all we've seen.
 
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Dec 22, 2009 7:02 PM
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i've just experienced the best 24 minutes of my life while watching this episode...... i just have 3 words to say......
PURE FUCKING EPICNESS!!!!~!!!!!!!!~!!
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Dec 31, 2009 9:28 AM

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well my mind was blown by this episode. So many people died, great episode. Now on to the final episode.
 
Mar 28, 2010 12:30 AM

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so katz died, jarid dies and so does the entire crew of the radish, the only one i don't feel sorry for (besides katz, he was annoying) was whats her face, the traitor
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Apr 22, 2010 7:09 PM

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Katz, Jerid and Reccoa... all dead.

GOD BLESS YOU, TOMINO! ^o^
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May 5, 2010 4:11 PM

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I very like this episode. But my favorite is the last episode. Only Problem. I very want to see when yazzan die. But not! He surviving >-< .

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May 26, 2010 1:28 PM

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What was the barrier that surrounded the Zeta Gundam?

I "Fuck yeah!"'d when Katz epicly failed and crashed into that boulder/meteor/meteoroid/whatever it's called. Of all the ways to die, that's how it happened, lol. Started disliking the guy early when he began disobeying orders. Annoying.

Jerid's last fight with Kamille was very anticlimatic and his mobile armor was freaking ugly.

As for the rest, I didn't really care for them; especially the Radish's crew.
 
Aug 1, 2010 1:09 AM

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Yes, finally... Jerid died... probably the best thing that heppened in the entire series...
 
Aug 24, 2010 11:40 PM

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Katz, Captain H, the Blue Triangle Trio, the crew of the Radish, Reccoa, Jerid, and nearly Emma. Phew. I think they just knocked out a quarter of the remaining cast.
 
Sep 15, 2010 7:46 AM

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Omg they killed almost everyone in this episode on a whim! I still can't believe that Katz died. Why on earth? Also Jerid, Reccoa and Henken.... I was like wtf during the whole ep.
 
Oct 9, 2010 3:08 PM

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Stupid way to die,katsu lmao
 
Oct 10, 2010 3:22 PM

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What can i say about all these casualties? I don't see anything strange or unnatural here, this is a space battle and naturally these who are in a battlefield and fights, risk being killed too. But i have to admit that death of Katz and Radish crew was totally unexpected, but well, this is what makes series interesting and quite different.
 
Nov 27, 2010 8:04 AM

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Splitter said:
Katz, Jerid and Reccoa... all dead.

GOD BLESS YOU, TOMINO! ^o^


Amen! You're forgiven for making those characters now that you've killed them off so epicly. Katz and Jerid died the pathetic deaths they deserved, and Reccoa, well at least her death improved her character slightly.
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Jan 24, 2011 1:59 PM
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Casualties of War. Never a more aptly named chapter.

Katz's death was unexpected, but on the other hand he has to be one of the most annoying characters ever, so I didn't mourn his loss. Ditto Jarid. And Reccoa just couldn't make it after her treason.

And Kamille is finally showing some of that true Newtype power. Took him long enough

I get the feeling that the last chapter will give us even more death.
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Jan 27, 2011 9:39 AM

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That was a pretty spectacular episodes I must say.

I really hope Amuro shows up to kick some ass in the last ep. Even if its just for five minutes
 
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First and foremost, Jerid. Dead. Nothing else on this episode comes close to this. Too awesome to put into words. This is what happens when you joke about a random teenager's girly name and kick him in the face.

Second, Katz. No tears will be shed for you, except for those of joy.

Third, Reccoa. They try to make her a worthwhile character on her last seconds? Meh, it's just like many other things in Zeta, shiny mecha battles are more important than actually trying to develop stuff.
 
Sep 29, 2011 6:07 PM
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Would have been a perfect episode if not for the magic newtype powers that ruined it. Way to throw skill and mech details out of the window and just cheese your way to a win.
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Would have been a perfect episode if not for the magic newtype powers that ruined it. Way to throw skill and mech details out of the window and just cheese your way to a win.

agreed
 
Nov 10, 2012 9:28 PM
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Yes, finally... Jerid died... probably the best thing that heppened in the entire series...

Yeah, alongside with the deaths of Reccoa and Katz. A very satisfying episode, to say the least

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and Reccoa, well at least her death improved her character slightly.

How so? The only thing I can think of that improved slightly my opinion of her was when she killed Bask last episode. She didn't do anything worthwhile here, just her old traitor mentality, like when she was justifying killing Kamille by giving him a merciful "fast death" or something.
 
Jan 4, 2013 10:38 AM

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Epic episode.
 
Mar 21, 2013 8:14 PM

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TONKATSU!!!! Thank god hes dead. One of the more annoying characters.

Pretty much face palmed at the "Lets sacrifice an entire ship of people to help 1 mobile suit" and yeah Magical newtype shield is pretty bullshit.

LOL when Kamille just opens his visor for no reason, holy shit that was funny.
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Apr 24, 2013 7:45 AM

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Holy crap.

Katz and most of all Reccoa dead (everytime she started talking about her BS my head hurt)! YES! THANK YOU! I expected a better death for Jerid O.o

Man..this series is crazy!

Emma please don't die!! :(
 
May 18, 2013 9:41 AM
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Absolutely dreadful episode. It would have been an amazing episode if not for the ridiculousness of how the story worked itself out.

GodHimselfx100 said:
Would have been a perfect episode if not for the magic newtype powers that ruined it. Way to throw skill and mech details out of the window and just cheese your way to a win.

It's not just the Newtype powers.

There is so much inconsistency: what happened to the logic and good military reasoning that many characters displayed time and time again? What happened to the skill of the pilots? Why is it that some die in one hit with a beam rifle and some survive, or narrowly survive? Why is it that when it comes to the main characters, their MS suddenly has the ability to make the enemy narrowly miss, or survive a beam saber that would have blown up your average mook? What was with the non-existant back-up that existed before? The portrayal of how the Radish "sunk" was particularly awful.

Many times before, characters have escaped danger under even more extreme circumstances, but here they had to die under the most ridiculous circumstances because the plot was already written that they had to die, and Tomino had no idea how to do this effectively, and in effect we see the opposite of plot armour.
 
Jun 23, 2013 5:56 PM
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Wow this episode was insane! loads of characters died and Kamille went super Newtype mode, awesome episode.
 
Aug 27, 2013 11:26 AM
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Tomino at his best!
 
Jan 5, 2014 1:56 AM

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So many important characters died in this episode: Katz, Reccoa, Jerid, Yazan, Henken and his entire crew, DAMN!

Definitely the best episode of the series so far, off to the last!
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Jan 18, 2014 10:12 AM

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Oh, Katz died. Finally. I though he was going to have plot armour to the end.

What is wrong with Kamille? He opens his visor in space and then he starts to talk about how people while being in middle of huge space battle? Well, people die in war you know. Kamille has huge killcount and now he starts to talk how people die in war? It was boumd to happen sometimes to your side too. You cannot be only one killing people...

How did Radish even get destroyed? Haven't they survived from worse bombing runs before just ok and now the whole ship explodes?

What was that power shell around Zeta in the end?
 
Feb 6, 2014 10:55 PM

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Yess Reccoa's dead! All we need is for that pig Scirocco to die.
I still don't know what her problem was. She kept saying that people were looking down on her but all I saw was that she was a hypocrite.

Oh god at the way Katz went out.
He was annoying but I still felt kind of bad. He really was kind of a fail all the way to the end.

Also that part where Kamille opened his helmet, even if he was doing it out of insanity, it was still rather odd.
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Mar 10, 2014 9:55 AM

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Good that Reccoa died. Yeah I didn't see either her problem. Made me not care about her at all.

OH almost forgot the moment I've been waiting for. JERID HAS BEEN SENT TO HELL VALHALLA.

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Mar 21, 2014 8:35 PM

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My expression during this episode:


Okay, I lol'd.

This episode was pretty ridiculous overall. The many wonderful deaths in this episode helped, but I'm disappointed with Jerid's death. I was hoping for him to die slowly and with realization that he can't ever win.

Katz dying was unexpected, but honestly, his character was basically Kamille 2.0 by the end so I can't feel bad. I just feel bad for Hayato and Fraw when they learned how much fail he was, even with dying.

Reccoa dying was great. I never got how she can complain about men ignoring her when she continually joins military endeavors when there's no place for that kind of thing. What a selfish, egoistical woman. I wish Emma called her out on that.
 
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shocking episode. I was really in disbelief that katz died, unlike the first series i really liked alot of the characters that died(well fuck jerid his death was a long time coming

I cant wait to see thje final episode, just please for the love of god let emma kamille and fa live

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May 7, 2014 8:30 AM

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So many deaths this episode and some were unexpected. I'm glad that piece of shit Jerid finally died.
 
Jun 4, 2014 12:44 AM
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This episode...wow. I just dont know what to think of it. First, this is clearly rushed. There were too many characters and there just wasnt time to deal with them properly since there is just one episode left. Tomino just went super sonic and killed a lot of them. This is a clear problem, these characters like Jerid and Yazan that we dealed for EPISODES!! trying to kill them and they ran away countless times, now all those episodes feel worthless as they just taken out fairly easy.

That said, I gotta say that I was hyped, excited, satisfied, jumping,etc. as these deaths were happening XD Specially Katz and RECCOA! FVCK YEA i wanted reccoa to die so badly T-T finally!!! Her death wasnt very good but at least she's gone. I didnt like Jerid's death, I liked him as a character, thought his characterization was very well done, but he was often forgotten because of the bunch of other villains that existed. I thought his dead was just a spit in the face to all the work he put in. Either way, Reccoa .l. you were pathetic, Katz shame on you, you still acted like a brat, I feel bad for your parents and brothers.
 
Jun 19, 2014 12:54 AM

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YES,YES,YEEEEESSSSS.....!!!!!!!!.........FINALLY KATZ IS DEAD,AND RECOA TOO

The simple fact that katz died makes this the best zeta episode ever,i can even forgive the super gayan gundam
 
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Amazing and tragic episode!!

Lots of things happened so let's start off with this.

FUCKING FINALLY!!!! I have never been happy all this time!! They did it!

They finally fucking killed that stupid brat Katz. It's been a long journey and i'm glad you piece of shit died in that way. blown up in a wrecked ship where you belong.

Funny Kamille was giving him advice that attitude will kill him someday. Looks like he hit the lottery right now!

Glad you died Katz. No more hijacking Mobile Suit and your shitty piloting skills. Thank You Yazan for saving us the trouble with this brat.

Now you can spend eternity with Sarah in your dreams.

I do feel bad for Emma for not being able to do anything, but at least he died! Though i don't know what they did with her face when someone dies.

I do feel bad also for Char, Bright and Kamille if they were to tell this news to Amuro and Frau. It definitely is a mistake to send him into space in the first place.

Henken!!!! I can't believe Radish is going down, but at least you were able to protect Emma till the end. It's a good thing she didn't board Radish or she would have perish along them.

And yes the fight with Jerid was very anticlimatic and ended too quickly. Even their first fight lasted much longer than this. I understand they wanted to show when Kamille get's angry as hell, he would kill you in an instant. Still wish they extended this till the end of the episode.

Jerid dies with Radish and Henken. Damn he'll never get his revenge for sure. I do wonder what he was trying to say at the end. "You're my?" Brother, Father or what O__O

Damn Emma went crazy for a second, but Kamille even get's crazier for removing that helmet on space. I don't know what's the point of that Kamille :P

Guess he wants to show that he's strong?? :P

Oh Reccoa. I actually thought Char would finish her life, but Emma is definitely a perfect person to end her reign.

I actually thought Emma died as well, glad she was safe!!

I don't know what Reccoa is saying about how men use and defile women. Were she raped back then?? Did Char did something bad to her? What the hell are you trying to say!?! Instead of asking for help you refuse till the end and instead acknowledge a nobody like Paptimus who you only saw in one mission and fell for him.

Oh well RIP Reccoa. Even though your a hypocrite, at least your not worst as that punk Katz.

And yeah Zeta emitting a purple like aura that bounces off beam and all O___O

WTF INDEED!! I do wonder this is where a lot of future Gundam's get their near invincible armor. Especially Gundam 00 and it's Trans-AM system.

Yazan supposedly died?? I saw his cockpit manage to escape in the last second.

Char vs Hamon vs Paptimus!! I hope Char destroys both with just his Hyaku Shiki! Come on Red Comet Char Aznable! Prove why you are the best pilot on the planet along with Amuro and Kamile!!!

hank You once again Tomino for killing Katz!! That scene alone made this episode one of the best for sure!!

Last episode!! Can't believe we're at the finale! T____T

Let's Go Zeta Gundam!!!!!!
 
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Hand_of_the_King said:
YES,YES,YEEEEESSSSS.....!!!!!!!!.........FINALLY KATZ IS DEAD,AND RECOA TOO

The simple fact that katz died makes this the best zeta episode ever,i can even forgive the super gayan gundam

IKR, I had like the biggest smile when I watched this episode, 10/10.
 
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Kamille going pink and destroying Yazan's MS is my all time favorite Gundam scene.
 
Jan 27, 2015 3:43 AM

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I love you Emma!
you finally did what I wanted for the past 10 episodes.
 
Feb 13, 2015 4:14 PM

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This episode was all over the fucking place, in fact the series has been in a frenzy to try and tie itself up in the remaining episodes since like episode 45. They spent the entire show doing those dumb "pew pew oh shit I'm damaged better retreat I'll get you next time kisama!" cop outs to end fights and suddenly they realised they have to start tragically killing people off.

Jerid didn't get the final rival showdown he deserved, the way they offed him was downright criminal. Reccoa and Emma were talking to each other and the next fucking second they're stabbing each other. Fuck pacing, we gotta make time to have Camille hulk the fuck out.
 
Apr 20, 2015 2:27 AM

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This is getting pretty stupid and obnoxious.
EVERYONE IS DYING
 
Jun 10, 2015 11:50 AM

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Splitter said:
Katz, Jerid and Reccoa... all dead.

GOD BLESS YOU, TOMINO! ^o^

This

I don't have anything else to say.
 
Nov 17, 2015 2:17 PM
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So this is the infamous Kill 'em All episode.

Katz being reckless,slamming into an asteroid and getting himself killed (couldn't help but laugh,an idiot till the very end).

Henken really sacrificed the entire Radish crew for Emma!!!

After 49 episodes of plot armor Jerid finally died (his death was so fucking anticlimactic).

Reccoa died,thank you Tomino you did good.

Kamille opening his helmet in space,this nigga is insane.

 
Dec 16, 2015 9:28 PM

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Basically me when Reccoa died

Bye, Felicia !

I was getting tired of Jerid's hypocrisy so good riddance as well.
But I admit that I felt a bit sad for Katz: can't believe I would ever say that one day but, even though he was a complete failure as a soldier he was still essentially a kid. He simply wasn't cut out for this and he paid the highest price for his recklessness.
The entire Radish white-knighting Emma was some major facepalm material though: we know you'd had a crush on her for a long time already, but how could you just sacrifice hundreds of people for the sake of a single person you like, Henken?

It was a pretty great episode but that Newtype raging powerup asspull was just... eh.
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