Gintama merged
Yes. it should be merged
36.2%
105
No, it's unfair
63.8%
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290 votes
| I'm neither Gintama fans nor haters (I'm HxH fans), Gintama is overall great anime (though didn't as good as HxH, FMAB, and S;G) and I don't mind if Gintama being on top spot. But the problem is Gintama have too many spot in the top 10 list, and it's the manga wasn't even finished yet so we can see many Gintamas again in the future. So, do you think Gintama should be merged into single anime because of top 10? |
| No, why should it be done with Gintama and nothing else? Makes no sense. Also who cares about that list anyway? |
| If Gintama get merged then shouldn't all series with sequels get merged? |
| You'd have to make this a standard for all sequels on the entire site in that case, which wouldn't be a bad idea and many listing sites are designed that way (like IMDB for example) It's been suggested countless times before though but it's never become a reality so don't expect anything |
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kaguraa_ said: nope it's only Gintama. If one Gintama didn't take the top 10, it didn't have to merged.If Gintama get merged then shouldn't all series with sequels get merged? |
HiatusXHiatus said: Okay that... doesn't make sense at allkaguraa_ said: nope it's only Gintama. If one Gintama didn't take the top 10, it didn't have to merged.If Gintama get merged then shouldn't all series with sequels get merged? You either do it for all of them or none. You can't just do it for one series alone for no other reason than that you can. That's not how database management works |
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| That doesn't make sense. Gintama should only be merged if all series woth sequels would be metged as well or it isn't fair. Besides, there are lots of anime that'll likely be in the top 10 like Haikyuu S3, Steins;Gate 0, Jojo, etc. |
HaXXspetten said: it's not only for Gintama. Maybe in the future steins gate 0 can take top 10 too. Just give the database parameter if(series = top 10){merged} or whatever the method, lol. So top 10 anime will be cleared from sequel, people like to see top ten in everythingHiatusXHiatus said: Okay that... doesn't make sense at allnope it's only Gintama. If one Gintama didn't take the top 10, it didn't have to merged. You either do it for all of them or none. You can't just do it for one series alone for no other reason than that you can. That's not how database management works |
HiatusXHiatus said: kaguraa_ said: nope it's only Gintama. If one Gintama didn't take the top 10, it didn't have to merged.If Gintama get merged then shouldn't all series with sequels get merged? if gintama gets merged with all the prequels, movies and ovas, the same should be done for the all the entries that have sequels. that way it would fair for all |
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| i would agree if not only apply to gintama. there is fucking tons of sequel in top anime as well. i don't get why only gintama that got such a thing. |
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| I don't want to sound like a broken record, as everyone has already said what I was going to say. People are way too butthurt about the top list anyway. |
| It really doesn't make sense to merge only those in the top ten. I mean talking about wanting to see the top ten, I'd rather be able to see 'clean' top 50 anime and yet there are a lot of other sequels filling up the top anime first page (mushishi, haikyuu, natsume yuujinchou, code geass etc). So yeah, if Gintama has to be merged, then let's be fair and do it with everyone else. Though tbh, oftentimes different seasons of one anime can be produced by different people (or even different studio) so merging them into one can be a bit unfair for the people behind the scenes. |
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| I voted yes assuming this thread was 'Merge all anime'. But to merge only Gintama? That makes no sense. L> for My vote back. That's like saying "Should X be merged because there's X Entries in the Top 100." This is flawed thinking. If one show gets merged, ALL shows should get the same treatment. |
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| The biggest case of "who even cares". Also, don't merge sequels, it doesn't make sense and for obvious archiving purposes. |
| No it shouldn't... Tyrel said: That's like saying "Should X be merged because there's X Entries in the Top 100." This is flawed thinking. If one show gets merged, ALL shows should get the same treatment. My thoughts exactly and that's why it should never happen. |
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| No because... arisa89 said: oftentimes different seasons of one anime can be produced by different people (or even different studio) so merging them into one can be a bit unfair for the people behind the scenes. Yeeaap. It would be unfair for the animes, not just Gintama, with different studios/creators/wtv in their sequels. But I would like if an anime franchise can be merged when it comes to making it a Favorite since you would either have to add all/most of the sequels to your Favorites list or remove the prequel just so you can make the sequel your Favorite (if your Favs list is full). I kinda like it when the Favs list is at least a bit tidy. xD |
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| No, i want to see MAL burn, specially with dat #1 spot. |
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| What needs fixing is peoples anime taste, not Gintama. |
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Tyrel said: I voted yes assuming this thread was 'Merge all anime'. But to merge only Gintama? That makes no sense. L> for My vote back. That's like saying "Should X be merged because there's X Entries in the Top 100." This is flawed thinking. If one show gets merged, ALL shows should get the same treatment. Second the motion. Also, Tyrel explained it in the other thread in length why the merging of all the Gintama series is impossible. |
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| That will never happen because we don't group different entries together only because some users would like to see it. There's something called DB guidelines and there won't be any exceptions. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| I don't care if it's merged at all. All I know is Gintama is the only anime that ranked #1 at one point during its run of all four seasons, three of which had been #1 after it completed airing. Happy tears. |
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| Why only gintama ? If gintama merge every anime should merge with their sequels |
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kaguraa_ said: If Gintama get merged then shouldn't all series with sequels get merged? yeah, it's best for all if it can be done |
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| I would say definetely yes to merging the series, but only if it happened with every title of course. |
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| It would only make sense if every anime title with sequels and(or) with side stories would be merged into one in 'Top Anime' section.. And average score would be counted from all of those sequels and none sequels.. Seems legit. |
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| Nope, that doesn't make much sense. Gintama has sequels like any other anime, why not merge them all then? |
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| If Gintama gets merged, every other anime should get the same treatment, and I know a lot won't want to see that. For example, no one wants to see DBZ being combined with DB GT. |
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Sterben0022 said: HiatusXHiatus said: I'm neither Gintama fans nor haters (I'm HxH fans), Gintama is overall great anime (though didn't as good as HxH, FMAB, and S;G) and I don't mind if Gintama being on top spot. But the problem is Gintama have too many spot in the top 10 list, and it's the manga wasn't even finished yet so we can see many Gintamas again in the future. So, do you think Gintama should be merged into single anime because of top 10? Grow up kid. Who gives a shit if Gintama populates the entire top 10. MAL rankings literally count for NOTHING. They mean NOTHING. So stop worrying about it and just enjoy watching anime. I give that shit, why not both? We can enjoy watching while enjoy the series we watch rated high. |
| People still take the top list and rankings seriously? I don't even recall the last time I looked at it lol People staying salty as always on this site |
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| Goddamn the upset is real. I swear it is like a rebellion army overthrew the government. |
GoldenDevilGamer said: If a merge did happen it would be something like this: Highest ranking show get shown on the list while the others get put into a dropdown menu where you click an arrow of all the other shows.If Gintama gets merged, every other anime should get the same treatment, and I know a lot won't want to see that. For example, no one wants to see DBZ being combined with DB GT. |
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Tyrel said: That's actually not too bad I guess. But I doubt we'll see that happen though :/GoldenDevilGamer said: If a merge did happen it would be something like this: Highest ranking show get shown on the list while the others get put into a dropdown menu where you click an arrow of all the other shows.If Gintama gets merged, every other anime should get the same treatment, and I know a lot won't want to see that. For example, no one wants to see DBZ being combined with DB GT. |
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| I'm all up for the sequel merging but is it fair to do it for one series only? Hell No. I believe the main problem in merging lies in different staff members and on what criteria should the score be divided. You know there are series like Durarara which even have a studio change so that could be a negative while merging.There are some series where the sequels are much better than the prequels and vice versa. Surely, averaging won't help in this case. I can understand this would be a long feet to achieve if I was a mod. What you're suggesting would lead to major changes in the DB and that'll be a lot of work for moderators/admin. As for the ranking I don't mind if it drops from the first place to the last place. I decide my favourites based on my tastes, not what others think. Although I do believe being a part of Gintama fandom is more fun compared to other series, everyone has the same passion for the series as you and everyone generally is not obnoxious. |
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Tyrel said: GoldenDevilGamer said: If a merge did happen it would be something like this: Highest ranking show get shown on the list while the others get put into a dropdown menu where you click an arrow of all the other shows.If Gintama gets merged, every other anime should get the same treatment, and I know a lot won't want to see that. For example, no one wants to see DBZ being combined with DB GT. oooh that's nice. That way the low ratings of the specials won't affect the main series. |
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Kiri_Meow said: Yeah, that's just my opinion on how it should be done. It makes it fair for every show.Tyrel said: If a merge did happen it would be something like this: Highest ranking show get shown on the list while the others get put into a dropdown menu where you click an arrow of all the other shows. oooh that's nice. That way the low ratings of the specials won't affect the main series. |
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| Along with some shows having much worse sequels-- Psycho Pass, Darker than Black, ect-- if we wanted to merge entries we'd also need to determine what counts as a sequel and what a spin off. For example, we wouldn't combine all of Gundam, or all of the Fate franchise, into one entry, right? Build Fighters and 00 are night and day, same with Fate/zero and Prillya. So where would we draw the line? Have each JJBA part count as a different anime or the same? Do movie sequels get merged into the television portion of the anime? How are the movies counted? What about remakes? OVA specials? I dunno, seems like way to much work. It's fine as is. |
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Kezone said: This is actually a really good example of why merging can't work.Along with some shows having much worse sequels-- Psycho Pass, Darker than Black, ect-- if we wanted to merge entries we'd also need to determine what counts as a sequel and what a spin off. For example, we wouldn't combine all of Gundam, or all of the Fate franchise, into one entry, right? Build Fighters and 00 are night and day, same with Fate/zero and Prillya. So where would we draw the line? Have each JJBA part count as a different anime or the same? Do movie sequels get merged into the television portion of the anime? How are the movies counted? What about remakes? OVA specials? I dunno, seems like way to much work. It's fine as is. |
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Gator said: No, why should it be done with Gintama and nothing else? Makes no sense. Also who cares about that list anyway? holy shit this man speaks the truth |
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Kuma said: the big thing that should be merged are split cours, judging them as multiple seasons is illogical since they are just single 2 cour or 4 cour shows that took a brief absence to keep production to finish things, whats even more baffling is how mal has merged many older split cour shows such as cowboy bebop which had a half year break mid way.i would agree if not only apply to gintama. there is fucking tons of sequel in top anime as well. i don't get why only gintama that got such a thing. I can understand the notion that it'd be there so watching lists dont get crowded, but since ovas such as the currently airing thunderbolt already do that and can takes years to even finish and the use of the onhold list is completely viable i see no reason that the solution is just make seperate entries |
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Sterben0022 said: Grow up kid. Who gives a shit if Gintama populates the entire top 10. MAL rankings literally count for NOTHING. They mean NOTHING. So stop worrying about it and just enjoy watching anime. if rankings mean nothin then y do u rate ur anime list? y not just enjoy anime for sake of enjoyment ? |
a_silly_bear said: personal score =/= cumulative score. personal score is from you and for you, when mal ratings is just those personal score cumulated. so it does doesn't have any effect teoricaly. especialy MAL which don't have any power in anime industries.Sterben0022 said: Grow up kid. Who gives a shit if Gintama populates the entire top 10. MAL rankings literally count for NOTHING. They mean NOTHING. So stop worrying about it and just enjoy watching anime. if rankings mean nothin then y do u rate ur anime list? y not just enjoy anime for sake of enjoyment ? |
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Tyrel said: If a merge did happen it would be something like this: Highest ranking show get shown on the list while the others get put into a dropdown menu where you click an arrow of all the other shows. this is good but i think people wil still complain. what bout just removin top rankings altogether from the site? but still allow users to rate their anime and manga in their list? |
a_silly_bear said: People would complain about that too since a lot of users look up the top X list to see what's popular among the people watching it.Tyrel said: If a merge did happen it would be something like this: Highest ranking show get shown on the list while the others get put into a dropdown menu where you click an arrow of all the other shows. this is good but i think people wil still complain. what bout just removin top rankings altogether from the site? but still allow users to rate their anime and manga in their list? |
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| Nope, because it would remove a static source of salt from the site |
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Tyrel said: People would complain about that too since a lot of users look up the top X list to see what's popular among the people watching it. ya but i mean just get rid of the top anime list by ranking (the cumulative All anime tab). if people want to see whats popular then keep the other tabs and restructure their ranking formula by popularity (# of members with the anime on their list). i think the "Seasonal anime" feature (under Top anime) already does this. or just add the sorting feature in Seasonal Anime to the Top Anime by popularity List, so they could see most popular anime by season/year/etcc |
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