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| Araragi doesn't catch a break... just as I thought that everything had been solved... |
| Definitely the best episode visually so far both in the gorgeous backgrounds and the house along with the typical monogatari things. One thing that confuses me though is the timeline because I had always thought owari had taken place after neko white but before the end of second season but hanekawa doesn't have the white streaks in her hair in this... |
| Well I'm even more confused. Just when I think the problem is solved. I quickly realize its not. Another great episode. Always loved the fact that this series plays on the words there is two sides to every story. The only thing that bugs me is the fact Ougi can figure it out as if she was there to begin with. But then again Hanekawa also added a little more info to the story. Maybe Araragi really is a fool. Can't wait for next week. |
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| Mystery in this show just keep me getting interested.Can't wait for next week. If Sodachi hate Araragi for that then she is being unreasonable. She can't expect him to read her mind. I wonder if there are other reasons why she hate Araragi. |
ZapredonOct 17, 2015 12:24 PM
But it's important to remember that a movie review is subjective;it only gives you one person's opinion. http://www.classzone.com/books/lnetwork_gr08/page_build.cfm?content=analyz_media&ch=30 It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.If elitist don't exist, casual pleb and shit taste also don't exist. |
| Ooooo, nice visuals. For some reason I like Araragi more after this episode. Had no idea it got leaked early. Cool, I guess. |
| It's time you look inward and begin asking yourself the big question, "Who are you, and what do you want?" - Uncle Iroh |
| I wish all the episodes were available now. I would marathon this series so hard. 5/5 |
Urek said: it really blows my mind how we have just 2 people sitting in the same room for nearly the whole episodes talking to each other and still having me glued to the screen, hitted by several emotions and realizations. monogatari never fails to amaze me. ^Basically this 5/5 episode as always, sasuga SHAFT |
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| Good episode, spending most of the time in one location. Interesting mystery building up |
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Urek said: it really blows my mind how we have just 2 people sitting in the same room for nearly the whole episodes talking to each other and still having me glued to the screen, hitted by several emotions and realizations. monogatari never fails to amaze me. Right? Writer Nisio Isin and director Akiyuki Shinbou are a match made in anime heaven. Great writing and execution can make even the simplest scenes interesting. |
| I love how araragi is good at maths because I'm good at maths. I have finally admitted to myself that I'm self inserting myself into a harem protag. Oikura is probably the most attractive grill so far tbh. |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Very interesting. I had to wait for it to be released in HD. I look forward to next week. |
| Great chapter! again, i love it the visual languages used. I think than Ougi is more than just Oshino's niece Koyomi in Middle School is so cute <3 I hope more of Senjougahara y the next chapter. I love that girl. |
| I am Argentine, so is not very good my English, sorry for the many typing errors. |
| Araragi - "I've come to despise myself a little bit" Ougi - "Then that little bit is how much I love you" Keep it up, Ougi, you're quickly approaching best-girl levels. |
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| Monogatari is always so damn good. 5/5 |
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Thalandor46 said: Well, she also said something like that on previous episode also."I don't know anything. It's what you know, Araragi-senpai." Has Ougi said this before? Because I feel like the contrast between Hanekawa and Gaen just became a triangle. King_of_AMVz said: Well I'm even more confused. Just when I think the problem is solved. I quickly realize its not. Another great episode. Always loved the fact that this series plays on the words there is two sides to every story. The only thing that bugs me is the fact Ougi can figure it out as if she was there to begin with. But then again Hanekawa also added a little more info to the story. Maybe Araragi really is a fool. Can't wait for next week. Supposedly from what she said if it's true, then she must has a hold all about Araragi, be it his memories or knowledge. And from the way the conversation goes, she only "telling the obvious" to Araragi, seems like Araragi has a habit to deconstruct any incident that he not fond of and really lacking in complex thinking, eh. From this episode, i think Oikura mistake was that she were hoping that Araragi was some kind of mind reader or Sherlock Holmes, typical stereotyping of woman i guess, both are a fools actually. |
| I swear I read more subtitles in the Monogatari series than I do from my school textbooks. |
| I'm loving the character dynamic between Ougi and Koyomi even if I feel like Ougi is misleading us down a dark path. They're building up for big reveal in the next two episodes. |
64SuperNintendo said: Xenocrisi said: lol. Why are you even watching this? I don't remember a single episode of Monogatari without a lot of dialogue. Nice troll. I know that every episode of Monogatari has talking, that's the point and I even replied that to someone else earlier. In my opinion, it's bad, but it has some redeeming qualities and that is why I keep watching. I like how I can talk shit about any other show in their discussion threads, and no one has any problems with it nor questions me about it, but I say anything negative about Monogatari and I'm a troll. Because you complaining of the monogatari series is parallel to someone complaining that porn has too much nudity. |
ihusmal1234 said: 64SuperNintendo said: I know that every episode of Monogatari has talking, that's the point and I even replied that to someone else earlier. In my opinion, it's bad, but it has some redeeming qualities and that is why I keep watching. I like how I can talk shit about any other show in their discussion threads, and no one has any problems with it nor questions me about it, but I say anything negative about Monogatari and I'm a troll. Because you complaining of the monogatari series is parallel to someone complaining that porn has too much nudity. Fair enough. |
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| I really love Reasoning : the anime |
| good shit my distrust in Ougi grows stronger each week |
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| Ougi is the epitome of a good listener. Lollo36 said: Araragi - "I've come to despise myself a little bit" Ougi - "Then that little bit is how much I love you" Keep it up, Ougi, you're quickly approaching best-girl levels. I was stunned by that line, and she just dropped it so casually. |
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| This arc is really shaping up to be one of my favourite arcs in the monogatari series. I'm loving every minute of this investigation of Araragi's background. |
| Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to give out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. |
| I hated Oikura prior to this episode, but damn, that backstory...it's kind of hard not to feel sorry for her now. Hope she doesn't go back to being a bitch and trash the audience sympathy. |
| Man, time went by so fast while I was watching this episode. I'm really interested in the mystery, especially after Hanekawa's input at the end. |
| this revelation about araragi and oikura past, make me more curious about oikua's story. waiting 1 week for the next monogatari episode is a torture. |
| Monogatari : A show where figuring out child abuse becomes entertaining just by dialogues. |
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| Oh my, this show is incredible! *-* |
| Blacker than a moonless night, hotter and more bitter than hell itself... that is coffee. My anime list My manga list |
| rararagi senpai youre so dumb but is still like you |
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| Great episode and interesting twist. Here I thought Oikura was a selfish little b*tch and it turns out she might have real issues that Araragi in all his amazing thickness didn't pickup on. Or so at least Ougi wants us to believe, huh? I wonder what twist will come next week. |
| "Perhaps there is a universal, absolute truth. Perhaps it justifies every question. But that's beyond the reach of these small hands." Mamoru Oshii There is a cult of ignorance (...) nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that “my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.” Isaac Asimov |
64SuperNintendo said: ihusmal1234 said: Because you complaining of the monogatari series is parallel to someone complaining that porn has too much nudity. Fair enough. you are the definitive prove of a retard. |
| Rance X is A GOAT. |
barthos said: 64SuperNintendo said: Fair enough. you are the definitive prove of a retard. You* proof* |
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| okay so with Ougi constantly claiming to be Meme's niece, where the hell IS Meme? it'd be so easy to confirm whether what Ougi is saying is true or not by asking Meme himself. it just feels like the elephant in the room to me since Araragi has obviously been suspecting something about her for a while now |
mugi said: They don't know, this is prior to Koimonogatari. Hanekawa went traveling to look for Meme but couldn't find him at the end of Koi. Also you might remember that at one point, Gain wasn't able to contact Kagenui and Kaiki got attacked at the end of Koi as well. So something is up. oh that's right. it came back to me now. this way of storytelling plus the long wait in-between sequels doesn't help people with bad memory like me :) |
| Ougi still super suspicious. |
| Looks like the News guy already mentioned the 007 reference, but it looks like no one so far caught that right after the gun barrel sequence it went into a bunch of multicolored dots, which is a reference to the opening credits of Dr. No, the first James Bond film. Great episode. EDIT: Also, my respect for Araragi has gone WAYY up with these episodes. I can really relate to him now. I remember how much fun math was for me when I was a kid. I miss those days. |
| Omne Solum Forti Patria |
| Really curious to see what the whole truth is. Since every time we get some stunning revelation, it just turns out to be another small layer of the big picture. Don't trust Ougi at all. I have a feeling like Ougi is an apparition created by Araragi. It explains why she knows everything about him and why her phrase is "I don't know anything. It's what you know"...even though she does know. Perhaps he manifested her after Oshino left and he had the strong desire to keep helping with the apparitions. So he created an entity who is portrayed as a relative of Oshino, yet has all of his memories/thought processes, so she can basically bounce his own ideas back at him, like he's talking to himself. This also means that getting rid of her will be difficult, since she knows how he thinks, and can avoid it. 64SuperNintendo said: Xenocrisi said: lol. Why are you even watching this? I don't remember a single episode of Monogatari without a lot of dialogue. Nice troll. I know that every episode of Monogatari has talking, that's the point and I even replied that to someone else earlier. In my opinion, it's bad, but it has some redeeming qualities and that is why I keep watching. I like how I can talk shit about any other show in their discussion threads, and no one has any problems with it nor questions me about it, but I say anything negative about Monogatari and I'm a troll. First of all, you sound like an asshole. Saying you "shit talk" shows rather than discussing them pretty much sums up your maturity level. And with that asshole attitude, I doubt that the other threads you do this in go unnoticed by other posters. Second, your "shit talking" has no logic behind it, which is why people are bashing you. It's one thing to say "oh I don't like this character, this arc, this relationship, this plot device, etc." But when you say "oh I don't like this show because it has too much talking...when the entire premise of the show is character monolgues/conversations...you sound like a fucking clown. That's legit the equivalent of saying: "I don't like this anime because it has animation in it!" |
Jonesy974Oct 19, 2015 12:40 AM
| The thing is... this anime is so much more than "just talking" or "just characters giving monologues". These last three episodes have been anything but monologues or just talking. They've been discussions between Ougi and Araragi about Araragi's past. Not only that, it's been a matter of flashbacks into his past, revealing bit by bit the mystery of why this girl Oikura hates him so much. At first we think it's just that he's better in math, then we think it's because of that classroom incident, then because she was the one responsible for making him so good at math, then because he did nothing about her domestic abuse situation, and now we're led to believe that there's even more to it than that, that Araragi has connections to her even further back. That's far more than just talking. And the art, the surreal art of this series, in my opinion, is as much an element as the large amount of dialogue. But even then there's more to it. Everybody knows how violent this series can get. And the fact that it doesn't happen all that often means that it's a shock when it does. It's like, damn, did that just happen? If every single episode was as bloody as some of Araragi's fights are, then those fights would lose their meaning. In general, we get a sense that Araragi is comfortable and happy with his life, but then things happen that will not allow him to keep living like that, and he has to get involved. Or Senjougahara has to get involved. But yeah, all this dialogue and all these actions... they all make up a little thing called PLOT, and develop another little thing called CHARACTERS. Two things that are, I don't know... essential to a good story? People who dislike this anime for its dialogue should probably give up on even trying to watch high quality anime and go watch DBZ or Bleach or something. |
| Omne Solum Forti Patria |
| I'm going to be an ASS and will reveal that BTW, |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
Moniisek said: ougi is acting only on the things that araragi says thus making him recall only certain parts of the past. it's kinda like araragi is having a conversation with himself, lol. Vindstot said: I like how Araragi was staring at Hanekawa's legs while she was going up the stairs. I don't really blame him though.. :3 To Date: Hitagi To Love: Hanekawa To Marry: Hachikuji Or so Araragi once said. peeyaj said: I'm going to be an ASS and will reveal that BTW, Mayoi Hell |
DariamusOct 19, 2015 6:10 AM
| Wait so there's more to Araragi's relationship to Oikura other than this one since the way Oikura knows Araragi's family occupation tells something, man I need to see the next episode quick :3 LMAO at Araragi for trying to peek on Hanekawa, man that legs though and also LMAO on Mathemathical Fairy Yotsugi |
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| Of course buncha kids are using spoiler tags to brag about "me red LN me kno stori". Have some decency. |
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Jonesy974 said: Really curious to see what the whole truth is. Since every time we get some stunning revelation, it just turns out to be another small layer of the big picture. Don't trust Ougi at all. I have a feeling like Ougi is an apparition created by Araragi. It explains why she knows everything about him and why her phrase is "I don't know anything. It's what you know"...even though she does know. Perhaps he manifested her after Oshino left and he had the strong desire to keep helping with the apparitions. So he created an entity who is portrayed as a relative of Oshino, yet has all of his memories/thought processes, so she can basically bounce his own ideas back at him, like he's talking to himself. This also means that getting rid of her will be difficult, since she knows how he thinks, and can avoid it. 64SuperNintendo said: I know that every episode of Monogatari has talking, that's the point and I even replied that to someone else earlier. In my opinion, it's bad, but it has some redeeming qualities and that is why I keep watching. I like how I can talk shit about any other show in their discussion threads, and no one has any problems with it nor questions me about it, but I say anything negative about Monogatari and I'm a troll. First of all, you sound like an asshole. Saying you "shit talk" shows rather than discussing them pretty much sums up your maturity level. And with that asshole attitude, I doubt that the other threads you do this in go unnoticed by other posters. Second, your "shit talking" has no logic behind it, which is why people are bashing you. It's one thing to say "oh I don't like this character, this arc, this relationship, this plot device, etc." But when you say "oh I don't like this show because it has too much talking...when the entire premise of the show is character monolgues/conversations...you sound like a fucking clown. That's legit the equivalent of saying: "I don't like this anime because it has animation in it!" Alright, whatever. I used "shit-talking" as shorthand to saying what I don't like about shows, however, I do discuss them and sometimes mention their merits. No one replied to me in the threads for those other shows, except for a fan of one of the shows I was commenting negatively on, who congratulated me for being so impressively dedicated, so there's that. The conversations and monologues aren't the problem that I have with the show (because I liked other shows with talking and monologues), it's the way the show goes about it because the conversations are too repetitive (IMO) and I just mentioned the conversations because that's a much quicker way to phrase it. Guess I'll just comment on something else then. When I was just commenting the ratings that I am assigning each episode, someone marked them as spam, so I pretty much have to write my thoughts on every episode that I comment on before giving a rating. Also, some other guys replying to me called me a retard, told me to just watch shonen shows because Monogatari isn't for idiots, so I fail to see how that is much more mature. DawnJ said: Of course buncha kids are using spoiler tags to brag about "me red LN me kno stori". Have some decency. To be fair, at least they're spoiler tagging those. But yeah, it is kind of dumb that they are just randomly saying spoilers even though no one asked for an explanation or clarification on what's happening. |
D-ohnutsOct 20, 2015 2:25 PM
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peeyaj said: I'm going to be an ASS and will reveal that BTW, Mayoi Hell[/quote] I know that, but when do you think will SHAFT adapt that book? |
| F0XFIRE said: OP 4 most butthurt bitch on MAL. |
Urek said: it really blows my mind how we have just 2 people sitting in the same room for nearly the whole episodes talking to each other and still having me glued to the screen, hitted by several emotions and realizations. monogatari never fails to amaze me. |
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