New Sunrise Series 'Mobile Suit Gundam: Tekketsu no Orphans' to Premiere for Fall 2015

eraldo-dono said:
Will this series be a stand-alone show or watching the previous Gundams is required?

battosai-01 said:
The best Gundams have always been the OVA's in my opinion. 08th MS team, War in the Pocket and more recently Unicorn and Gundam the Origin. Of course the original Gundam and Zeta are great too. I've yet to see Turn A Gundam yet, but I've heard it's quite good. The Gundam T.V series coming out nowadays are nothing more than over glorified commercials to buy the model kits. I doubt this newest one is going to change this, especially considering Okada is the writer. She is in no way equipped to handle the type of drama and politics that come with the Gundam franchise. These are not cute little high school kids, these are war-hardened soldiers. This is not a mild highschool melodrama with love triangles and touchy-feely-emotions this is war and politics and death and destruction. I doubt she can properly encapsulate any of this and it's just going to turn into a giant mess. Even in the trailer I'm getting hints of this. It looks like fujoshi-bait where all the pilots are half dressed driving around these robots and moaning. At least wear a helmet. There's no way this is going to be at all serious and if it tries it's going to blow up in their face. The only type of value I see myself getting out of it is unintentional comedic value.

ThrashMatto said:
After the gigantic craps that were G no Reconquista (dont care if i spelled that wrong, it means absolutely nothing to me) and Gundam AGE, this looks insanely promising.

Love the darker style its going for, the score in the trailer is amazing, character designs are really good and above all else, that Gundam looks absolutely badass. This is an absolute watch... fall is getting awfully stuffed, anyone else notice the past few seasons getting insanely bloated?

iKoyy said:
Well that's it I'm officially very sad.

I discovered Gundam with Wings when it was aired on french TV. Liked it quite a bit but then I discovered Gundam Seed and I was blown away and led to expect great things of this franchise.

Since then I watched a lot of different Gundam hoping to see something on par with Gundam Seed but I have never found something like that. I absolutely adored Gundam 00 though which was quite serious and had and amazing art style. The drawing and animation was top notch.

But since 2009 every single Gundam that was aired was a total let down, poor stories, atrociously annoying characters (what ? who said reconguista ? oh everyone...). I was so hyped at the announcement of the announcement 2 weeks ago...

Now that we saw the cast I have lost all hope for this one.

Please can someone do a proper mech anime again ? Something like Macross or old Gundams....or even Code Geass who was a lot more character centric than mechs but still had them.

Maor said:
Eww Maria anyway it probably wont suck as much as Origin #1 did

I dont see any girls and I would totally be in for male drama and those designs look a lot better than in the preview

10th_man_down said:

What are you talking about, there was 2 girls in the trailer.

cupc said:
Yeah I don't know what to think. Having a romcom girl write the script and a SoL director direct it just feels wrong. Plus knowing Okada wrote M3... Honestly wondering didn't they get any more fitting people on board the project or something

that said, the trailer looks quite hype. if it's anything to go by there's nothing to worry about

Maor said:
I was talking about the main cast which are http://i.imgur.com/RuDYjDv.jpg

NotJizzyHitler said:
Thats not the main cast, thats just the soldiers, the relena looking girl is probably going to be important as hell

Mechanical Design: Naohiro Washio, Kanetake Ebikawa, Ippei Gyobu, Kenji Teraoka, Tamotsu Shinohara

Maor said:
Eww Maria anyway it probably wont suck as much as Origin #1 did

BatoKusanagi said:
Am I the only one who doesn't Mari Okada here? I think she's fine.
Anyway, the premise sounds good; Ryvius-esque with the kids taking matters into their own hands.


They're actually pretty average for Gundam. Weird mecha designs was G-reco and Turn A.

windeen-windy said:
I don't like gundam series with mostly male characters too easily...... I hope there's more than the one female character, that I saw, in the series. I love animes with characters I can easily understand or relate with. That being said, I relate better with characters of my own gender...... So, that one female character better really be prominent or there better be a few likable female characters in the story.... And less annoying male characters.
Though, that didn't help me with G Reco....... That was.... Just.... MEH.
Not that I could watch more than one episode (that animation style..... seriously .).....
So, I don't know if it got better.... Judging by what I've heard, though, it might not have been.
So, I'm hoping that they make a new series for Gundam, that I can get into.

ooo333 said:
Every anime that this Okada chick is involved is always about the main characters, who are always 16 and younger, are hating on adults. In the anime that she is involved, adults are the worst things that happen to the universe.

ooo333 said:
Every anime that this Okada chick is involved is always about the main characters, who are always 16 and younger, are hating on adults. In the anime that she is involved, adults are the worst things that happen to the universe.

Asukara

AnoHana


My gosh.

NotJizzyHitler said:
Thats not the main cast, thats just the soldiers, the relena looking girl is probably going to be important as hell

ooo333 said:
who are always 16 and younger, are hating on adults. In the anime that she is involved, adults are the worst things that happen to the universe.

Kaioshin_Sama said:


I've never seen a Gundam series have only 1 female character really, though at times it felt like AGE could come really close. Even the supposedly sausage fest ones like Wing and 00 you had characters like Noin, Hilde, Relena, Dorothy, Une, Sally and Sumeragi, Soma, Marina, Nena, Wang, Katie all playing various and different kinds of roles in the story so I wouldn't worry about just seeing the one girl only in the PV.

Chillingflames said:
Don't forget G Gundam: Really, Sunrise?

NotJizzyHitler said:
Thats literally amuro in a nutshell, calling out how retarded the higher ups and adults were handling the war, pretty sure kammille and judau both complained about this alot too.

ex_necross said:
As stated many times on the other thread, Okada is a horrible choice for Gundam, and Nagai isn't much better, but I will stay foolishly optimistic because that's how I am.

NotJizzyHitler said:
I really have been thinking about nagai and about giving him the benefit of the doubt, he hasnt actually made a show like this in the slightest and for all we know he could be better suited for that, and really even if i disliked toradora and am not too positive on(but dont dislike) anohana i cant really say he was bad at directing them

ex_necross said:


You can't really hire someone who has little-to-no experience and say "well they could be good, we don't know yet" for a high-profile show like Gundam. Plus, the MC looking just like http://myanimelist.net/character/40591/Jinta_Yadomi from Ano Hana really isn't making me feel any better.

Knowing these two, we are going to get a melodrama heavy fujoshi pandering show, but even those 2 things I can forgive as long as the "Gundam" (politics, war, mecha porn) are done right. Unfortunately there is nothing that suggests they will get that part right either.

NotJizzyHitler said:
The guy who did war in the pocket didnt have any war stories under his belt, war in the pocket's director while having experience with action shows had a bunch of duds under his belt and no mecha when he did unicorn, shinji takamatsu is a slapstick comedy director and he still made gundam X.

windeen-windy said:


Funny.... Your the only person that I've heard, that referred to G. Wing and 00 as "sausage fests"...... Generally I keep hearing how "girl ridden" (usually, G Seed as well, is referred to, in this manner), how gay they are and so on and so fourth..... And those are my 3 top favorite gundam series.
You are right, that Gundam age came close.

Kaioshin_Sama said:

Don't take it the wrong way, I'm just saying how people seem to see it. You know the whole 00 is a remake of Wing silliness because there was a team of Male pilots in Gundams, though they were eventually joined by Soma Peries to round things out even if she never got a real Gundam. Sadly unless you count the nigh invincible Aila Jyrkianen in Build Fighters whose never actually been in a real battle cause her series is a sports one she's kind of the last good female mecha pilot in Gundam since Aida and the AGE cast pretty much sucked. Well okay there was that Fram Nara who made to turn one of the girliest looking mobile suit designs into a pretty lethal weapon, but she had kind of a stupid death.

Kaioshin_Sama said:


Don't take it the wrong way, I'm just saying how people seem to see it. You know the whole 00 is a remake of Wing silliness because there was a team of Male pilots in Gundams, though they were eventually joined by Soma Peries to round things out even if she never got a real Gundam. Sadly unless you count the nigh invincible Aila Jyrkianen in Build Fighters whose never actually been in a real battle cause her series is a sports one she's kind of the last good female mecha pilot in Gundam since Aida and the AGE cast pretty much sucked. Well okay there was that Fram Nara who made to turn one of the girliest looking mobile suit designs into a pretty lethal weapon, but she had kind of a stupid death.

If you ask me this is a play to try to establish Gundam's cred with the new generation fans brought up on Visual Novel type stuff, particularly of the Nakige (crying game) variety since a lot of recent hits with younger anime fans in Japan have featured really melodramatic storylines kind of designed to make you cry. This staff has a pedigree for that sort of thing, this is what that tells me. Fortunately Gundam can be bent in almost any direction to fit just about any sort of theme or motif, doesn't necessarily mean it'll be good though.

NoBleachNoLife said:
Looks good, but i am not digging appearance of the guy with Asemu's hairstyle.

ex_necross said:


What are your thoughts on this series though? How do you feel about the SOL and Rom-com writers working on it?

ex_necross said:


What are your thoughts on this series though? How do you feel about the SOL and Rom-com writers working on it?

lord23 said:
this may seam off topic but http://www.someanithing.com/series-data-quick-view Accel World and Horizon in the Middle of Nowhere still sold more then Gundam reconguista in g or cross ange this proves YET AGAIN adaption sell more then in house works I wonder if sunrise has notice this yet

Kaioshin_Sama said:


Gundam makes the vast majority of it's revenue not through disc media but merchandise and overall multimedia. That's why it's the 70 billion yen a year enterprise that it is and will continue indefinitely regardless of disc sales. If people think that disc sales are the primary concern with series like Gundam Build Fighters I'd say think again. When Bandai itself labels G-Reco a success that also says it all.

Sunrise is also not primarily an adaptation studio, they push originals that can be also be mass marketed by it's parent companies infrastructure. This also isn't going to change anytime soon as there's little benefit to them for adaptations like Accel World and Horizon on The Middle of Nowhere outside of disc sales which are a pretty small piece of the pie. I mean yeah they get included in the Sunrise Crusade TCG and there's the game adaptations but that's about the extent of the benefit since they don't own the licenses and gain nothing from light novel and most of the merchandise sales. This is why you don't see Studio 8 doing those things like that much anymore and instead focusing on stuff they do own the rights too like Love Live.

lord23 said:
that true and I agree with this but then you also have cross ange which sold less then the other two but the creator wants to make more ?

Kaioshin_Sama said:


Threshold for originals is a little different than for adaptations, but yes somehow they magicked that one into a success (hilariously it's done better than Aldnoah's Second Season so far, but then again so has Reconguista even just in terms of disc sales which has done better than that show overall period despite having the director doing everything in his power to tank the series commercially while it was the complete opposite for Aldnoah's team) which I'm honestly not too happy about since I think it sucked and is kind of bad for the mecha genre and that they should be held accountable. Ultimately the ball is actually in King Records court as the production committee head.

Again though disc sales are a secondary concern here. Most likely they looked at the overall multimedia package and decided that that was good enough from a purely commercial standpoint. I mean it did better than most originals these days....somehow. Incidentally speaking of Aldnoah I wonder whatever happened to that merchandise they apparently had planned with the model kits. I guess things just turned out so poorly for it they decided not to even bother since unlike Gundam the model kit brand isn't it's own established industry that can carry itself, but like man.

lord23 said:
wait you mean the first Fate Stay Night anime the animation in that one sucked and Aquarion Evol second off is garbage but gundam is known for its romance and drama I know because a character in build fighters never shut up about that

Mecasonic said:
Btw, I believe the name Iron-Blooded/Tekketsu/鉄血 in the title is likely a reference to the Iron and Blood Volunteer Units/Tekketsu Kinnoutai/鉄血勤皇隊, a corps composed of 14-17-years-old boys who fought in the Battle of Okinawa during WWII.