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TaisakuSentou said: My hype went down a little when I found out that there was going to be "hypergates" or whatever involved.Hoppy said: The thing is, the Urobutcher can outdo Tomino if he wanted to, but it wouldn't have the same charm (it would be just as good though) since he doesn't have depression and just loves to direct and write stories with super high death counts, the symbolism and reason for it isn't there. What bothered me is that the Vers Empire isn't near comparable to the depth revolving around the Principality of Zeon. The Vers Empire just found advanced technology on Mars and believed that they were superior to the Terrans. Whereas, the Spacenoids didn't want the limitations of Earth and wanted to expand into the vastness of space. Zeon Zum Daikun had a more optimistic goal planned, but a corrupt government led to his assassination and the rise of a totalitarian dictatorship under Degwin Zabi... I could go further into this, but it seems that complexity involving historical allusions and symbolism, are completely ignored by the people actually overhyping this. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: Hoppy said: The thing is, the Urobutcher can outdo Tomino if he wanted to, but it wouldn't have the same charm (it would be just as good though) since he doesn't have depression and just loves to direct and write stories with super high death counts, the symbolism and reason for it isn't there. Tomino actually came out of the post war Japan period so was writing a lot from personal experience and stories he heard from friends and relatives. It's what sort of gave it that visceral human touch and he wanted to tackle themes of war, love, loss, trauma, politics and sorrow with the franchise instead of just letting it become another toy commercial for Bandai. He has to fight for every inch of getting to tell the story and make the show he wanted to and lost just as many battles as he won initially, more wins with the movie version of the original series. Gen Urobuchi is an interesting writer for sure, but he's from a totally different generation than Tomino with different life experiences and upbringings (guaranteed much easier life) and IMO most of his stories lack that human touch feeling and maturity (they are dark and unsettling but not necessarily mature or striving for more realism) that made Gundam such a big deal back when it first aired and had people identifying so strongly with characters like Amuro, Char, Bright, Sayla, Lalah and all those other memorable supporting cast characters. He's not a total sellout or anything but he's also clearly more comfortable and content to just do the bidding of the people that sign his paychecks and cave to their demands compared to Tomino and this shows promotion gives off this sort of "Fuck Gundam! Yeah we're going to stick it to that franchise and do it better than it ever could" commercial feel to it as opposed to trying to tackle the issues that Tomino wanted to tackle with Gundam and to buck the trends of the time entirely. Really no other series had attempted to do what the original Gundam did at the time or to have that level of maturity and complexity to it's storyline since they were all mostly just formulaic super robot shows. It was so different at first people weren't even really sure that they liked it but it quickly became apparent that it had done something no other original anime TV series had done up to that point. Correct, which is why I said if Urobuchi did do a kill em all ending it would lack the charm and reason of how Gundam's endings of that nature were handled, it would just feel like a bloodbath for the sake of presumably good writing (I hope it ends up being as a result of good writing, because you can screw up that type of ending easily and give it no meaning at all if it's written poorly and kill em all for shock factor is not very good either and should be avoided). |
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| Sawano did it again! I'm so in love with his OSTs. |
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Hoppy said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Tomino actually came out of the post war Japan period so was writing a lot from personal experience and stories he heard from friends and relatives. It's what sort of gave it that visceral human touch and he wanted to tackle themes of war, love, loss, trauma, politics and sorrow with the franchise instead of just letting it become another toy commercial for Bandai. He has to fight for every inch of getting to tell the story and make the show he wanted to and lost just as many battles as he won initially, more wins with the movie version of the original series. Gen Urobuchi is an interesting writer for sure, but he's from a totally different generation than Tomino with different life experiences and upbringings (guaranteed much easier life) and IMO most of his stories lack that human touch feeling and maturity (they are dark and unsettling but not necessarily mature or striving for more realism) that made Gundam such a big deal back when it first aired and had people identifying so strongly with characters like Amuro, Char, Bright, Sayla, Lalah and all those other memorable supporting cast characters. He's not a total sellout or anything but he's also clearly more comfortable and content to just do the bidding of the people that sign his paychecks and cave to their demands compared to Tomino and this shows promotion gives off this sort of "Fuck Gundam! Yeah we're going to stick it to that franchise and do it better than it ever could" commercial feel to it as opposed to trying to tackle the issues that Tomino wanted to tackle with Gundam and to buck the trends of the time entirely. Really no other series had attempted to do what the original Gundam did at the time or to have that level of maturity and complexity to it's storyline since they were all mostly just formulaic super robot shows. It was so different at first people weren't even really sure that they liked it but it quickly became apparent that it had done something no other original anime TV series had done up to that point. Correct, which is why I said if Urobuchi did do a kill em all ending it would lack the charm and reason of how Gundam's endings of that nature were handled, it would just feel like a bloodbath for the sake of presumably good writing (I hope it ends up being as a result of good writing, because you can screw up that type of ending easily and give it no meaning at all if it's written poorly and kill em all for shock factor is not very good either and should be avoided). Well the thing is the original Gundam was the result of Bandai wanting Sunrise to make a business as usual tie in show for their upcoming line of models called Freedom Fighter Gunboy and Yoshiyuki Tomino somehow convining producers and suits to allow him and his team to change the look, feel and design of the show from the ground up pretty much and eventually the result we got was Mobile Suit Gundam. With this being Aniplex's vanity attempt to surpass said Gundam franchise or at the very least make as much money as humanly possible and this being 2014 and not 1979 I just don't see how it could possibly turn out anywhere near the same. I have a feeling it'll have it's moments, but given Aniplex's track record of late and the kinds of things they seem to think are good ideas to include in a shows framework when in reality they are mostly just ideas for trying to hold peoples attention and squeeze more money out of something I wouldn't hold my breath on anything too deep and genre defining. At best it'll probably get some people who otherwise wouldn't pay any attention to a mecha show to give the genre or at least this entry in it a chance because of all the popular staff working on it which could easily work as a double edged sword mind you. |
| I'm ready for all those D flags. |
| Great first episode. I loved it. The animation was stunning and I didn't think the CG was bad at all (if you want to see some bad CG just watch the transformation scene in the first episode of Sailor Moon Crystal) Didn't see the ending coming at all but I thought it was amazing. Really looking forward to the next episode. 5/5 As far as the princess is concerned: |
Kaioshin_Sama said: Hoppy said: The thing is, the Urobutcher can outdo Tomino if he wanted to, but it wouldn't have the same charm (it would be just as good though) since he doesn't have depression and just loves to direct and write stories with super high death counts, the symbolism and reason for it isn't there. Tomino actually came out of the post war Japan period so was writing a lot from personal experience and stories he heard from friends and relatives. It's what sort of gave it that visceral human touch and he wanted to tackle themes of war, love, loss, trauma, politics and sorrow with the franchise instead of just letting it become another toy commercial for Bandai. He has to fight for every inch of getting to tell the story and make the show he wanted to and lost just as many battles as he won initially, more wins with the movie version of the original series. Gen Urobuchi is an interesting writer for sure, but he's from a totally different generation than Tomino with different life experiences and upbringings (guaranteed much easier life) and IMO most of his stories lack that human touch feeling and maturity (they are dark and unsettling but not necessarily mature or striving for more realism) that made Gundam such a big deal back when it first aired and had people identifying so strongly with characters like Amuro, Char, Bright, Sayla, Lalah and all those other memorable supporting cast characters. He's not a total sellout or anything but he's also clearly more comfortable and content to just do the bidding of the people that sign his paychecks and cave to their demands compared to Tomino and this shows promotion gives off this sort of "Fuck Gundam! Yeah we're going to stick it to that franchise and do it better than it ever could" commercial feel to it as opposed to trying to tackle the issues that Tomino wanted to tackle with Gundam and to buck the trends of the time entirely. Really no other series had attempted to do what the original Gundam did at the time or to have that level of maturity and complexity to it's storyline since they were all mostly just formulaic super robot shows. It was so different at first people weren't even really sure that they liked it but it quickly became apparent that it had done something no other original anime TV series had done up to that point. Completely agree, but since the newer generations come by, the need for a truly 'mature' anime isn't really there. Things, like a lot of death and some characters having a few screws loose, seems to be enough for them. All in all, shows like this will sell well because of how relatable it is to the majority of all the viewers. I just don't like how most shows aren't taking that sort of risk to be completely different than what the industry gives, just to cause another revolution of new standards for all anime. |
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| Damn it all went down at the end there one of the soundtracks that played reminded me of the attack on titans ost. |
TaisakuSentou said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Tomino actually came out of the post war Japan period so was writing a lot from personal experience and stories he heard from friends and relatives. It's what sort of gave it that visceral human touch and he wanted to tackle themes of war, love, loss, trauma, politics and sorrow with the franchise instead of just letting it become another toy commercial for Bandai. He has to fight for every inch of getting to tell the story and make the show he wanted to and lost just as many battles as he won initially, more wins with the movie version of the original series. Gen Urobuchi is an interesting writer for sure, but he's from a totally different generation than Tomino with different life experiences and upbringings (guaranteed much easier life) and IMO most of his stories lack that human touch feeling and maturity (they are dark and unsettling but not necessarily mature or striving for more realism) that made Gundam such a big deal back when it first aired and had people identifying so strongly with characters like Amuro, Char, Bright, Sayla, Lalah and all those other memorable supporting cast characters. He's not a total sellout or anything but he's also clearly more comfortable and content to just do the bidding of the people that sign his paychecks and cave to their demands compared to Tomino and this shows promotion gives off this sort of "Fuck Gundam! Yeah we're going to stick it to that franchise and do it better than it ever could" commercial feel to it as opposed to trying to tackle the issues that Tomino wanted to tackle with Gundam and to buck the trends of the time entirely. Really no other series had attempted to do what the original Gundam did at the time or to have that level of maturity and complexity to it's storyline since they were all mostly just formulaic super robot shows. It was so different at first people weren't even really sure that they liked it but it quickly became apparent that it had done something no other original anime TV series had done up to that point. Completely agree, but since the newer generations come by, the need for a truly 'mature' anime isn't really there. Things, like a lot of death and some characters having a few screws loose, seems to be enough for them. All in all, shows like this will sell well because of how relatable it is to the majority of all the viewers. I just don't like how most shows aren't taking that sort of risk to be completely different than what the industry gives, just to cause another revolution of new standards for all anime. I think shows like this will sell well just based on the popularity of the staff alone. I mean Aniplex is definitely smart commercially at the very least. When you're trying to do an original franchise with no huge pre-installed fanbase coming in from a source material (their other favorite tactic for big sales) one of the best ways to go nowadays is to just get as many popular staffers with their own individual fanbases into the show. It has nothing to do with whether they necessarily will work well together or are the absolute best fit for the job, what matters is getting the maximum possible number of fans they can bring on board from the get go to at least try a new IP out. Of course the show could still be solid in it's own right as things go along, but it's pretty clear that that's where everything starts from when it comes to Aldnoah Zero. I think Aldnoah Zero's measure of success for me will be how much it can overcome all the hyping bullshit and unchecked commercial intent behind it to just become a good show in it's own right ala the original Gundam. |
TaisakuSentou said: Kaioshin_Sama said: Tomino actually came out of the post war Japan period so was writing a lot from personal experience and stories he heard from friends and relatives. It's what sort of gave it that visceral human touch and he wanted to tackle themes of war, love, loss, trauma, politics and sorrow with the franchise instead of just letting it become another toy commercial for Bandai. He has to fight for every inch of getting to tell the story and make the show he wanted to and lost just as many battles as he won initially, more wins with the movie version of the original series. Gen Urobuchi is an interesting writer for sure, but he's from a totally different generation than Tomino with different life experiences and upbringings (guaranteed much easier life) and IMO most of his stories lack that human touch feeling and maturity (they are dark and unsettling but not necessarily mature or striving for more realism) that made Gundam such a big deal back when it first aired and had people identifying so strongly with characters like Amuro, Char, Bright, Sayla, Lalah and all those other memorable supporting cast characters. He's not a total sellout or anything but he's also clearly more comfortable and content to just do the bidding of the people that sign his paychecks and cave to their demands compared to Tomino and this shows promotion gives off this sort of "Fuck Gundam! Yeah we're going to stick it to that franchise and do it better than it ever could" commercial feel to it as opposed to trying to tackle the issues that Tomino wanted to tackle with Gundam and to buck the trends of the time entirely. Really no other series had attempted to do what the original Gundam did at the time or to have that level of maturity and complexity to it's storyline since they were all mostly just formulaic super robot shows. It was so different at first people weren't even really sure that they liked it but it quickly became apparent that it had done something no other original anime TV series had done up to that point. Completely agree, but since the newer generations come by, the need for a truly 'mature' anime isn't really there. Things, like a lot of death and some characters having a few screws loose, seems to be enough for them. All in all, shows like this will sell well because of how relatable it is to the majority of all the viewers. I just don't like how most shows aren't taking that sort of risk to be completely different than what the industry gives, just to cause another revolution of new standards for all anime. Speaking of sales, besides BDs, how are they going to ensure that this anime is successful, being a mecha anime this should had model kits or figures in the works by now at the very least, granted I seen nothing from Sidonia or Captain Earth yet so maybe that type of merchandising strategy is an outdated concept and reliance on BDs almost exclusively if not exclusively is the standard for late night mecha as well. |
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| This was awesome and the music gave me the chills.... <33 I'm glad I got hyped for this. |
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| The hype!!! |
| Interesting world and story and omg the soundtrack is godlike... it looks really good so far |
| Epic episode NO got fucked up after the 4th of July. Dat soundtrack was sugoi especially the song at the end. |
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Hoppy said: TaisakuSentou said: Completely agree, but since the newer generations come by, the need for a truly 'mature' anime isn't really there. Things, like a lot of death and some characters having a few screws loose, seems to be enough for them. All in all, shows like this will sell well because of how relatable it is to the majority of all the viewers. I just don't like how most shows aren't taking that sort of risk to be completely different than what the industry gives, just to cause another revolution of new standards for all anime. Speaking of sales, besides BDs, how are they going to ensure that this anime is successful, being a mecha anime this should had model kits or figures in the works by now at the very least, granted I seen nothing from Sidonia or Captain Earth yet so maybe that type of merchandising strategy is an outdated concept and reliance on BDs almost exclusively if not exclusively is the standard for late night mecha as well. If they want model kits they'll probably have to go through their direct competitor Bandai which would be kind of ironic since they basically started the promotion of this series by saying they wanted it to compete with Gundam. I don't think there's going to be though, maybe we'll get some figurines, but this show doesn't exactly seem aimed at the model kit building crowd with it's CGI designs at least initially. This seems more aimed at the Attack on Titan big epic visuals and blaring soundtrack HYPE HYPE crowd and the thing is while Gundam could have the big bombastic scenes that keep people at the edge of their seats just fine it could also have scenes like this. I'm wondering if the people behind this show have the ability or even the desire and time to fit in any sort of scenes like that one in what is probably going to be a mad rush to maintain maximum levels of hype at all times. |
PeacingOutJul 5, 2014 1:18 PM
| Loved it. The OST at the end when all the castles were landing and the cities were being annihilated was epic! It's so obvious who is responsible for the music XD Liking the mecha designs and the setting. The animation is nice and The Maritan's look BA!! Stupid terrorists -.- What the hell did they do that for <_< I don't know if I should face palm or LMAO at the MC (Inaho?)..."Let's get out of here, there are missile's coming" in monotone XD |
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| Nice episode. She isn't dead, of course. |
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| First episode great and all, but why the hell more mecha? Getting sick of BIG "COOL" ROBOTS! They could invest this huge amount of money they are using on this series for something else. But oh well, every japanese kid dreams of riding a BIG "COOL" ROBOT! -.- |
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| I'm really excited for this it seems interesting . I just hope this doesn't get rushed out. Overall: 4/5 for this episode. |
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| Seeing all these people being dematerialized in the end was quite shocking. Gen's writing gave me a "Barefoot Gen" feeling. CaptainKatsuura said: As far as the princess is concerned: I had the same thought. Maybe that charm Slaine gave her, protected her. |
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| I actually enjoyed this first episode quite a bit. Definitely a Gundam clone, down to the space royalty and dropping of large planetary scale objects on unsupecting cities, but with pretty decent production values. I don't rate Urobuchi as much as other people here, but I reckon he can make a pretty good story out of this. I hope that what seems to be the young MC doesn't end up being some all knowing OP characters. |
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Kaioshin_Sama said: Hoppy said: Speaking of sales, besides BDs, how are they going to ensure that this anime is successful, being a mecha anime this should had model kits or figures in the works by now at the very least, granted I seen nothing from Sidonia or Captain Earth yet so maybe that type of merchandising strategy is an outdated concept and reliance on BDs almost exclusively if not exclusively is the standard for late night mecha as well. If they want model kits they'll probably have to go through their direct competitor Bandai which would be kind of ironic since they basically started the promotion of this series by saying they wanted it to compete with Gundam. I don't think there's going to be though, maybe we'll get some figurines, but this show doesn't exactly seem aimed at the model kit building crowd with it's CGI designs at least initially. This seems more aimed at the Attack on Titan big epic visuals and blaring soundtrack HYPE HYPE crowd and the thing is while Gundam could have the big bombastic scenes that keep people at the edge of their seats just fine it could also have scenes like this. I'm wondering if the people behind this show have the ability or even the desire and time to fit in any sort of scenes like that one in what is probably going to be a mad rush to maintain maximum levels of hype at all times. It doesn't seem like something that can pull in the premium merchandise but other mecha such as Rinne no Lagrange got figures of each of Vox units and the characters, so the chance is there albeit a much lower chance. I also highly doubt that Aldnoah.Zero will have many meaningful encounter or love scenes, and since this is a Urobuchi series, I might as well have some doubt on many crowning moments of heartwarmth either. The series just seems designed more for fans want as much action out of this every episode or almost every episode as possible. |
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| damn i expect that princess will die someday but not in eps 1 though.. what the.... i wonder what kind of plot twist in the next eps |
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| New Orleans got rekt, fast. Those OSTs though. Really good animation. |
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| Best start this season yet. The story definitely got huge potential. Though using children as protagonists wasn't the best choice for this kinda story, as long as they can execute the story well I'll gladly overlook it. Also, since we didn't get to see the princess' face when the attack happened it was most certainly a double. In the first place, the "terrorists" were probably Martians (or however they are called in this story), so as to finally start war up again. Edit: And the soundtrack is epic |
DarkDooM2Jul 5, 2014 1:39 PM
| Fairly predictable but godly in execution so far. Amazing OST, clean and colorful visuals and an interesting world. My favorite this season so far. |
| Was a decent first episode doesn't seem to be following the typical modern day mecha tropes of a random high school kid suddenly becoming a skilled mech pilot, hell correct me if im wrong but I don't think I have seen any sort of overpowered mech for the mc in any of the promotional stuff so I wonder how they will combat this coming threat. |
| Very very predictable. But considering Urobutcher gen , this might go down to as anime of the season. |
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| Very interesting anime. Good studio and good stuff can make something unusual. In this episode soundtrack was really amazing! I can't wait for next episode! For this ep 5/5 |
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NaughtyNoddy said: Seeing all these people being dematerialized in the end was quite shocking. Gen's writing gave me a "Barefoot Gen" feeling. CaptainKatsuura said: As far as the princess is concerned: I had the same thought. Maybe that charm Slaine gave her, protected her. Although this is Urobutcher we're talking about so she might be... but she also might not be :-P |
| The first half of the episode was really bad. It was poorly explained as to what was going on, and subsequently fairly difficult to follow. The second half of the episode was better, I think I'll wait for the next episode till I make my decision about continuing watching it. Though the second half did show immense potential, there's still a chance for it to fall flat on its face because the plot does seem rather thin. |
| That wasnt bad at all. Hopefully the Princess somehow survived all of that since it seems our MC is just too uninterested to fight those Knights. Sent with Mal Updater |
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| Good episode. Likely Princess is alive and is going to give Earth that ancient tech to fight with. |
| I predicted about 80% of this episode so far and the MC lol,an incoming missile and he looked so bored.... Still New Orleans destruction was the best scene... |
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| Amazing first episode.Was ''a little bit'' generic, but i still loved it - amazing OST (sasuga SawaHiro) and animation + arstyle, interesting characters so far and great choice of seiyuus.Seems like it's going to be a great ride. |
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| omgsh, loved it! didn't had any expectation for this but it was awesome! |
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| Those people burned to crisp due to the shockwave.... that was brutal... too brutal for my heart. That's a promising start! |
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| The fact that the Princess's face wasn't shown at all from when the car appeared makes me think that it wasn't her. Maybe they had a decoy or something to see if there was any hostility or dangers present. Who knows. Good first episode though. The soundtrack that kicked in towards the end was pretty epic too. |
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| Wow I liked it. I wasn't even expecting anything because I'm no mecha fan, and only wanted to watch this because of Sawano (I didn't even really care about the other big names, nor some of my favorite VAs). But what can I say, it was better than I expected. I like how we don't see any real mecha action in the first episode, which is quite refreshing from all the other ones I've seen with the MC being able to pilot a new mech skillfully (or not skillfully like Shirogane no Ishi lol). Even the opening scene was quite nice because it didn't rely on anything spectacular. I liked Hanae Natsuki's "my pace" type of character, or more like he seems pretty apathetic atm. He's just like, hey guys we should leave because there's a missile coming. There's also a lot of history and politics going on too already. Also liking Kalafina's song at the end. Let's see where this goes since it's only 12 episodes. |
| Second anime doing reference to my country. I don't remember the first one. But this time Urobutcher went too far, he bombed my land. WTF |
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Stark700 said: Amarrez said: AMERICA GOT REKT AFTER INDEPENDENCE DAY Lol, I'm glad I wasn't the only one thinking that. The firestorm scene or whatever it was looked like it from the movie too. Wow, this wont be another Gargantia, all right. Pretty fast start. But me being careful now, went with just 7/10 and high hopes :D |
| kinda generic. Death of the princess... saw that coming from the very first minute. Character seem kinda generic as well but it is still early. Awesome soundtrack though. Yuki Kajiura all the way. Even if this turns out to be shit i will atleast listen to it xD |
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Uncanny said: The first half of the episode was really bad. It was poorly explained as to what was going on, and subsequently fairly difficult to follow. No. Just no. It was very easy to follow. |
| It was pretty cool I suppose. Had a nice soundtrack. Pretty obvious that the Mars clan set the whole thing up just to take Earth. That's how I see it anyway. |
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