| Modern civilisation is heading for collapse within a matter of decades because of growing economic instability and pressure on the planet’s resources, according to a scientific study funded by Nasa. Using theoretical models to predict what will happen to the industrialised world over the course of the next century or so, mathematicians found that even with conservative estimates things started to go very badly, very quickly. “Collapse can be avoided and population can reach equilibrium if the per capita rate of depletion of nature is reduced to a sustainable level, and if resources are distributed in a reasonably equitable fashion,” the scientists said. more reading - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasafunded-study-warns-of-collapse-of-civilisation-in-coming-decades-9195668.html |
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| Yea. I'd believe it. Civilization has reached a point, where it can totally wreck the planet, to the point of unsustainability. Sadly, the most powerful among us are showing themselves to be completely unable to handle the responsibility for the sake of humanity. Under these people, we're doomed. Using his Handy model to assess a scenario closely resembling the current state of the world, Motesharri found that civilisation “appears to be on a sustainable path for quite a long time, but even using an optimal depletion rate and starting with a very small number of Elites, the Elites eventually consume too much, resulting in a famine among the Masses that eventually causes the collapse of society”. So, can we tax the rich heavily now? |
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| Get your ass to mars. |
KyuuAL said: So, can we tax the rich heavily now? pretty sure you are preaching to the quire |
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KyuuAL said: So, can we tax the rich heavily now? lets do it |
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| We won't live to see it, it'll be somewhere in the late 2090's to early 2100's. |
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Hoppy said: We won't live to see it, it'll be somewhere in the late 2090's to early 2100's. They are just saying that so you don't panic |
Hoppy said: This sounds like a more reasonable estimate to me.We won't live to see it, it'll be somewhere in the late 2090's to early 2100's. RedArmyShogun said: 9/11 was an inside job.Hoppy said: They are just saying that so you don't panicWe won't live to see it, it'll be somewhere in the late 2090's to early 2100's. |
LoneWolf said: @Josh makes me sad to call myself Canadian. |
| Damn Maybe im smart after all, EVEN ME had guess that the world will one day run out of ressources. I should work with NASA if they make more studies like this one. Now please tell me about their study on global warming. Id love to hear it because there has been an iceberg in front of my door for about 6 months now |
Hoppy said: We won't live to see it, it'll be somewhere in the late 2090's to early 2100's. I wouldn't be too sure of that, the western world is now up to it's eyeballs in dept. I can see things going down hill fast in the next decade or 2. |
Hoppy said: lol my grandkids are so fuckedWe won't live to see it, it'll be somewhere in the late 2090's to early 2100's. |
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| None of this is really news. The "masses" already can't sustain themselves and there's no way they can consume as much as the average American. I remember a stat where like for every average American citizen to consume x resources, like x people elsewhere need to live in extreme poverty for the trend to be sustained. |
JD2411 said: Tachii said: Yes, that is trueNone of this is really news. The "masses" already can't sustain themselves and there's no way they can consume as much as the average American. I remember a stat where like for every average American citizen to consume x resources, like x people elsewhere need to live in extreme poverty for the trend to be sustained. Here's a rather sketchy site explaining it http://public.wsu.edu/~mreed/380American%20Consumption.htm So NASA is saying, bomb America? No wonder they don't get funding anymore. Mod Edit: Removed quote of a deleted post. |
LunaMar 22, 2014 2:06 AM
Hoppy said: We won't live to see it, it'll be somewhere in the late 2090's to early 2100's. I don't care. I'd much prefer to imagine a human civilization that reaches beyond this solar system. But alas, humanity might destroy itself before taking that opportunity. Upon reaching outer space - and into the moon - mankind goof'd up and messed up the opportunity by continuing to push forward. Instead, we've been much too complacent within our comfort zone. I am personally guilty of this, indicative of my own lifestyle. The worst treaty to come out of the space race - is the removal of a nation's ability to claim territory in space. This completely wiped out any motivation to divert resources towards space development and expansion outward. Instead, we're stuck on this planet debating lesser important issues -- like that gun thread (**cough cough**) -- among other things. Ultimately, as living organisms on this planet, we are pretty much living a larger scale of the "bacteria in a petrie dish" experiment. How many remember this in grade school? |
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JD2411 said: Nasa needs to stop making this stuff up and take off their tin-foil hats ERR you need to be rather stupid not to see this happening, just be glad you where born when you was because by mid this century thing are going to start getting ugly when resources start running out and we start struggling to produce enough food to feed the population. |
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Heredity said: oh boy, it's the next 2012. it's gonna be a fun couple of decades. Except this one may be more real than Y2K. Who remembers that? |
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| hopefully i'll be dead before this happens sweg..... |
JD2411 said: Newhopes said: Nasa didn't give any sources or develop their argumentJD2411 said: Nasa needs to stop making this stuff up and take off their tin-foil hats ERR you need to be rather stupid not to see this happening, just be glad you where born when you was because by mid this century thing are going to start getting ugly when resources start running out and we start struggling to produce enough food to feed the population. Therefore it is made up to try and spook people and when have Nasa ever been right before? You don't need Nasa to figure it out, we have about 25-30 years worth of oil left to maintain what we currently use once thats gone you can kiss civilization as we know it goodbye. |
| Sometimes i feel like some people were raised to be paranoid. Why would it be stupid to not believe them ? Btw why would we panic? We all die one day lol this is one of the funniest thing on earth > Some people when hearing about 2012 : OMG WHAT ARE WE REALLY GONNA DIE Now take the same people and tell'em they could die at any moment from a disease, car accident, heart attack ect,,, : no reaction. Gets drunk and drive, take drugs, smoke, eat fast food everyday, dont do any sports. |
JD2411 said: Newhopes said: The government is lyingJD2411 said: Newhopes said: Nasa didn't give any sources or develop their argumentJD2411 said: Nasa needs to stop making this stuff up and take off their tin-foil hats ERR you need to be rather stupid not to see this happening, just be glad you where born when you was because by mid this century thing are going to start getting ugly when resources start running out and we start struggling to produce enough food to feed the population. Therefore it is made up to try and spook people and when have Nasa ever been right before? You don't need Nasa to figure it out, we have about 25-30 years worth of oil left to maintain what we currently use once thats gone you can kiss civilization as we know it goodbye. And once America is destroyed the oil will last for another century Won't make any difference the emerging markets places like China,India ETC are steadly increasing the amount of oil they consume as they develop their economies. |
Aylaine said: RedArmyShogun said: Get your ass to mars. Women are from Venus so that's where I'll go. But seriously, this doesn't surprise me. The larger the population becomes, the greater need we will have for housing, food, and resources in general. Eventually the planet will simply run out. Unless science comes up with some new way to sustain the growing population, then exhaustion of resources is inevitable. The problem is plenty of resources are out there. ITs just all the Ivory tower sitting mother fuckers know they won't be alive to see these things and they don't want to spend money towards it. Everyone can burn as long as they get to eat all the gravy. Even power would not be a problem. |
JD2411 said: Tachii said: Yes, that is trueNone of this is really news. The "masses" already can't sustain themselves and there's no way they can consume as much as the average American. I remember a stat where like for every average American citizen to consume x resources, like x people elsewhere need to live in extreme poverty for the trend to be sustained. Here's a rather sketchy site explaining it http://public.wsu.edu/~mreed/380American%20Consumption.htm Yeah, yeah, nice article. Who's the babe sitting on the SUV in that picture? |
| Correct me if I am wrong but isn't peak oil predicted to happen in 2030-2040? I mean that can easily cause a market panic. But either way the financial system is screwed. I mean the global m3 (how much total money in the entire world) is about 70 trillion dollars (give or take a couple trillion) but the total amount of money that is invested in things like the stock market is over several hundred trillion dollars. As you can probably tell this is not good not good at all. The global financial system currently is just a bunch of dominoes waiting for a breeze to knock them all down; and when it happens 2008 will look like paradise compared to this recession. It is pretty much inevitable at this point and we are pretty much past the point of no return. |
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| Narrator: With high expectations, human beings leave Earth to begin a new life in space colonies. However, the United Earth Sphere Alliance gains great military powers and soon seizes control of one colony after another in the name of *justice* and *peace.* The year is After Colony 195. That's how I think the future will be like or something similar to it. Oh I think I know how to solve the problem!!!!! Twitch Plays Government!!!!!! I mean a few handful of people in this world have the power, how about everybody that has a means to internet access attempt to try, that or a new religion will be formed xD....now all we need are Gundams made from Gundanium Alloy or at least those cannon fodder Leo mobile suits..... |
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| The funny part is that people actually believe that |
| link to the actual study - http://www.atmos.umd.edu/~ekalnay/pubs/handy-paper-for-submission-2.pdf found it on reddit - http://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/20hafa/nasafunded_study_industrial_civilisation_headed/cg39mzj |
Valaskjalf said: Are you an expert on earth's resources and sustainability over time with regard to current and future demographic growth and activity?The funny part is that people actually believe that |
Aylaine said: Even then though, eventually they would run out. We just need some new technology where we can transform water into food. Or something. The resources I speak of would not run out even if the human population grew to 100 billion. That is in space. Also in terms of earth nuclear powerd water purrification plants and hydrophonics farms could solve pretty much all of our food and freash water problems. It will just take a few years of scarifice and hard work as well as the investment of the greater part of the economy. But hey whats survival of the human race. |
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RedArmyShogun said: Aylaine said: Even then though, eventually they would run out. We just need some new technology where we can transform water into food. Or something. The resources I speak of would not run out even if the human population grew to 100 billion. That is in space. Also in terms of earth nuclear powerd water purrification plants and hydrophonics farms could solve pretty much all of our food and freash water problems. It will just take a few years of scarifice and hard work as well as the investment of the greater part of the economy. But hey whats survival of the human race. It has not been demonstrated that there is significant biomass in space. All life as we know it comes from pre-existing life and requires the consumption of other life to sustain itself. Thus there is a sort of de facto "conservation of biomass" principle going on here on Earth. Logically, if the human population continues to grow to the point where it takes up a significant percentage of Earth's total biomass, then there will not be enough other biomass to sustain humanity. We're not at that point yet though and won't be for a long, long time. There's what, 100x more bacteria by weight than human beings? We just need to manage Earth's biomass a bit more efficiently. |
Jackrabb1t said: It has not been demonstrated that there is significant biomass in space. All life as we know it comes from pre-existing life and requires the consumption of other life to sustain itself. Thus there is a sort of de facto "conservation of biomass" principle going on here on Earth. Logically, if the human population continues to grow to the point where it takes up a significant percentage of Earth's total biomass, then there will not be enough other biomass to sustain humanity. We're not at that point yet though and won't be for a long, long time. There's what, 100x more bacteria by weight than human beings? We just need to manage Earth's biomass a bit more efficiently. Terraforming and small scale projects on the Javian moons could solve that, but I was mostly speaking of material resources. I forget the number designation but a meteor they landed a probe on not long ago was show to have more metals in it that humans have minded in our whole history combined. I'll give you biomass, however thats why I pointed out hydrophonics and the like. Also new energy and fuel sorces will be a must and it will require scarifices with a standard of living for all mankind more like in the 2nd world or lower class first world. It will be a long push, but one ultimately in the end worth it. |
| “Collapse can be avoided and population can reach equilibrium if the per capita rate of depletion of nature is reduced to asustainable level, and if resources are distributed in a reasonably equitable fashion,” the scientists said. Captain Obvious strikes, again! :-) |
| Eh, I expect it to happen sooner rather than later. And not due to lack of resources. Anyone who just outright shuns the possibility of civil collapse with the old "take off your tin-foil hat" routine needs to take off their blindfold first. We live in a world and time where government officials believe overpopulating an island can tip it over. Calling that an isolated incident is wishful thinking, at best. It may not happen...at least it might not happen yet, but it definitely can. |
Ntad said: Eh, I expect it to happen sooner rather than later. And not due to lack of resources. Anyone who just outright shuns the possibility of civil collapse with the old "take off your tin-foil hat" routine needs to take off their blindfold first. We live in a world and time where government officials believe overpopulating an island can tip it over. Calling that an isolated incident is wishful thinking, at best. It may not happen...at least it might not happen yet, but it definitely can. Most people can't smell the shit till you rub it in their faces. |
| this research might make you realize that the end of anno domini/common era is just around the corner...and universal century is incoming, do "UC" what i see? |
sauteed_roaches said: this research might make you realize that the end of anno domini/common era is just around the corner...and universal century is incoming, do "UC" what i see? HIEL ZEON! Also @ Cabacc Its better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it. Or as I would point out the Story on the Grasshopper and the Ant. Far too many grasshoppers are alive now. |
cabacc2 said: RedArmyShogun said: sauteed_roaches said: this research might make you realize that the end of anno domini/common era is just around the corner...and universal century is incoming, do "UC" what i see? HIEL ZEON! Also @ Cabacc Its better to have a gun and not need it than to need a gun and not have it. Or as I would point out the Story on the Grasshopper and the Ant. Far too many grasshoppers are alive now. owning a gun also means a risk. It can be used against you, you hold responsibility if someone steals it etc. I am better off not owning a gun. If you arn't prepaired to take responsibility then that is so. I'm a very dutiful person so it doesn't bother me. Its also why I don't like demoracy however. Most people will always take the easy way out, its how they get burned so horriblly in the fires. |
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