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Apr 3, 2017 1:04 AM

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Here we go, making moves to the end game. This episode builds up to a big reveal. Although it's one we could and should have reasonably inferred by now. Yasaburou's Uncle in a real Claudius move sold out his Dad to be eaten. Kaisei his daughter witnessed this betrayal by accident. And so she's grown withdrawn from her family. She's befriended Yajirou whose pain she understands. And hates Benten who in one of the cool unexpected touches was instrumental in trapping the elder Shimogamo. I little anticipated that's what that anecdote was setting up. But it also felt very obvious once revealed.

Most of this episode feels like place setting. A conflict is established around the Nise-mon election. All of the characters we've met have important parts to play in it. And the main tension of the series has been brought to the forefront. As Yaichirou faces the stew pot as a result of the Ebisugawa's treachery. I'd grown to like the Ebisugawa brothers a little bit. In a comic relief way. But they were so horrible in this episode. Aside from bullying little Yashirou again. I little thought they'd be participating in a plan this evil. Can't wait for their come uppance.

This episode definitely had me clamoring for the next one. I'm excited to see the brothers spring into action. Especially Yajirou who may do nothing. But it seems to me the Ebisugawas underestimating him will probably come back. As will his discussion with Yasaburou. I'm also really excited to see what Benten does when the story heats up.
Apr 23, 2017 8:30 AM
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Going to be pretty hard for Benten to redeem herself, never been a fan, but didn't think she was directly responsible for the death. I'd say she's much worse than Ebisugawa who has had a festering grudge against Souichirou for decades, but couldn't do anything about him because he was too powerful. It's only because of Benten that he was able to succeed.

May 7, 2017 10:34 PM

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At first I kinda liked Benten, but the more I know about her the more I dislike her. I dont mind mysterious femme fatale, I dislike Benten because she eats tanuki even though she knew about them being intelligent being. How can you eat creatures that you interact a lot with and know that they are intelligent beings with feelings not much different than humans? She's so self-absorbed and narcistic that she doesn't seem to care about anything than herself, she's a true psychopath by the book.
And Soun is even worse, he may have a grudge against his brother but it's not a reasonable one imo, first you cannot force someone to love you, and second losing to your brother because he's simply better than you, that's a sore loser. And a very petty reason for killing your own brother.
Sep 3, 2017 6:42 PM

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The Ebisugawa brothers are tricky, manipulative bastards, as we can see from this well-thought out evil plan. The only member of the Ebisugawa family that seems to be good is Kaisei (who is also a cutie in tanuki form).

Benten seemed awful this episode in the flashback. I don't know what Yasaburo sees in her.

However, I think that leaving out Yajiro as just being the frog in the well who can't do anything may be the downfall to their plan.
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Sep 10, 2017 5:16 PM

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Intense D: it's finally starting to add up. No wonder the ex-fiance disliked Benten.





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Dec 7, 2017 1:39 AM

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Awh shit, big reveal after big reveal! Shit's getting real in this episode!
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Dec 21, 2017 3:25 PM

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I love how everyone says "I hate Benten now, how could I have liked her?". I mean come on guys, hasn't it been obvious from the very beginning that she is an evil bitch and/or crazy? >.>
I'm sure there will be some big "revelation" this or next season about how Benten was nice all along, and that we just don't understand her. No, fuck off, no excuses for her.

Same with Ebisugawa. The obviously evil man was evil all along... I hope he gets made into a stew this time. I would hate to see them forgiving him or something like that. The anime would surely lose 1-2 points from me :/

Anyway, I'm sad Kaisei didn't tell them the truth sooner... She could have prevented this all along :( But I guess going against your own father is a bit steep for some people.
May 21, 2018 10:16 PM

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I haven't been the biggest fan of this anime, but I have to admit, this episode got me interested.

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Mar 11, 2020 10:43 AM

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This episode was so infuriating and powerful.

Here's me hoping that Benten can redeem herself in a satisfying way.

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May 5, 2020 1:47 PM
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RazielZero said:
I love how everyone says "I hate Benten now, how could I have liked her?". I mean come on guys, hasn't it been obvious from the very beginning that she is an evil bitch and/or crazy? >.>
I'm sure there will be some big "revelation" this or next season about how Benten was nice all along, and that we just don't understand her. No, fuck off, no excuses for her.

Same with Ebisugawa. The obviously evil man was evil all along... I hope he gets made into a stew this time. I would hate to see them forgiving him or something like that. The anime would surely lose 1-2 points from me :/

Anyway, I'm sad Kaisei didn't tell them the truth sooner... She could have prevented this all along :( But I guess going against your own father is a bit steep for some people.


Yeah I don't understand people who liked Benten to begin with. Are they just that focused on her looks? She was a manipulative bitch from the get go that preyed on idiotic older men. What infuriates me is how every man in the show worships the ground she walks on, like just because she's so hot she can get away with anything. She's the main reason for the suspension of disbelief, especially when the main character has a crush on the psychopath that ate his dad. Like what??? In what world does that make any sense? In what world does it make sense that such a dignified middle aged man who's married would piss his pants at the sight of Benten? So the same guy that transformed into a mountain is written so that he can't transform in the presence of a pretty woman and that's the excuse for his death? You can use that excuse for a comedy gag, you can't use that excuse for a fricking death. And then everyone acts like just because she's lonely and mysterious makes her likable. It's not exactly Benten's character in a vacuum that's bad. It's the way everyone else around her accepts her actions. She can do what she did, and I'll accept that, but to see other characters treat her other than a murderer is stupid.

I'm pretty sure the show is going to insert a twist and explain Benten's actions so all I just said sounds foolish, but up until this point there is no supporting evidence for her likability and it's frustrating to see people like her for essentially being a pair of tits. Take away her good looks, and you'd all hate her to the bone.
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May 27, 2020 10:46 AM

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Guess it explains why Benten cries at times for the guilt she done towards the family.
brothers like that should just die what a jerk.
Sep 11, 2020 6:50 AM

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I've really been enjoying this anime - everything from the music to the visuals to the characters are well-executed, and this episode raising the stakes was definitely a welcome shift. My main complaint, however, is that I wish Yajirou would stop mentioning that he's a 'frog in a well' every other line. It's getting really annoying.
Apr 1, 2021 1:44 PM

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So Uncle Knobhead was behind it all, perhaps if this is revealed to Froggy he might be able to shed his guilt, transform back and save his family, here's hoping.
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Oct 11, 2021 6:05 AM

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pokpokza said:
and then Benten is Evil. I really hate myself for liking her


i agree she is really evil, and i hate myself that i liked her

i thought benten didnt involve in yaraburou father getting caught - -''


Benten is not evil. She is there to eat Tanuki.
Jan 30, 2023 12:57 PM

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I wonder how Yasaburou sees Benten now. Is it still the same? Or is there any grudge even a little bit?

The Ebisugawa family is filled with jerks except Kaisei. I hope all those jerks disappear into thin air.

"I thought it was something like that. I just thought it for so long that I'm actually surprised now" :(

The question is, did Benten know at that time that the tanuki she wanted to bring was Yasaburou's father? Tbh I don't hate her but not a fan of her either.

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