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Oct 13, 2019 1:21 PM

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All I can say is, the art is amazing. This episode had particularly marvelous directing.

And yet again I was left feeling depressed after watching a Vinland Saga episode. This happens way too much where I find myself staing at the void and questioning life.
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Oct 13, 2019 1:24 PM
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Esquirtit said:

She felt happy (?) that were others who didn't fear God and commited evil acts, unlike her who stole a ring and felt scared and shit
I believe this was a mistranslation, it should have been something like “My heart is racing” or “My heart is beating,” not elated
Oct 13, 2019 1:24 PM
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G O A T Episode.

Vinland Saga can easily become the best anime of all time if it continues like this and they adapt the manga fully.

GOAT/5
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Oct 13, 2019 1:29 PM

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Excellent episode all the way through. Funny and thoughtful bits with the priest at the beginning, then the grim rade and what the peasent girl went through. In any other anime she would have thrown a tantrum.
Oct 13, 2019 1:31 PM
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This episode alone makes me want to rate this anime a 10/10 it's has so much realism and the way they portray gods and devils. STORY TELLING is damn good like I felt bad for all the Chirstian people that got slaughter the dad especially since he tried his best for the family, I hope the daughter survives her prayer really made me feel my heart hurts just thinking about it
Oct 13, 2019 1:31 PM

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Man, i found this episode really hard to watch and i'm not ashamed to say that i cried at the horror of it. That was some A+ directing and animation!

As far as people saying that Askeladd is evil or do i agree with him and such... i feel like i'm not in a position to make a decision on that and this episode displayed the reason for that perfectly; the reality of their world is kill or be killed and some times that means doing evil things but i don't think that necessarily makes you an evil person.
Oct 13, 2019 1:46 PM

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My entertainment from the Vinland Saga was in decline for quite a few episodes, to the point I had lowered the preliminary rating. This episode put an end to this. Somebody please find the episode director and offer him a director job for his/her own show. Excellent cinematography and narrative structure. (5/5)

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I think the point of it was to show that maybe, just maybe Askeladd lied about his Danish blood being weaker than his Welsh blood. He mentioned that pillaging villages was a Danish tradition that they had to carry out, which is odd considering he said he wouldn't let the Danes step one foot on the land, when in fact his own men are on the land, and carrying out their traditions nonetheless. In addition when he spoke in Welsh to the villagers, it was suppose to communicate a sense of relatability yet he showed no mercy to these people, his "real" people. Basically Askeladd really is a piece of shit.
Oct 13, 2019 1:51 PM

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Jaegerbomb_106 said:
Esquirtit said:

She felt happy (?) that were others who didn't fear God and commited evil acts, unlike her who stole a ring and felt scared and shit
I believe this was a mistranslation, it should have been something like “My heart is racing” or “My heart is beating,” not elated


Oh so it's more like she fears those who don't fear God, they're just as frightening as the feeling she got when she stole a ring? I wasn't sure and a lot of translations seemed off, I wonder if it's better on Amazon Prime.

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I think the point of it was to show that maybe, just maybe Askeladd lied about his Danish blood being weaker than his Welsh blood. He mentioned that pillaging villages was a Danish tradition that they had to carry out, which is odd considering he said he wouldn't let the Danes step one foot on the land, when in fact his own men are on the land, and carrying out their traditions nonetheless. In addition when he spoke in Welsh to the villagers, it was suppose to communicate a sense of relatability yet he showed no mercy to these people, his "real" people. Basically Askeladd really is a piece of shit.
⁹ I just want to clarify they were not in Wales when this happened, they were in Mercia( which is a part of England) the manga made them not being in Wales at this point a bit clear. Askeladd can communicate because Welsh and English are very similar languages. Nothing he did he hear contradicted what he said about wanting to protect Wales but it showed us that even he does have a noble goal he is still a monster all the same.
Oct 13, 2019 1:57 PM

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super good ep, pleb filter gonna catch a few big 'uns
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Oct 13, 2019 1:58 PM

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Speechless and goosebumps all around my body, for now this anime is a 10/10
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Oct 13, 2019 2:01 PM

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God damn Askeladd, ruthless as always!
Oct 13, 2019 2:13 PM
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Damn. That was the level of "evilness" I was expecting when I started watching. Why the Danes were feared. Not only because of how they fought in the battlefield, but because they were mercyless. Anyways, is Vinland still going to be important on the anime? I feel like Vinland has been forgotten.
Oct 13, 2019 2:19 PM
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Well done episode. It’s nice to see the hard winter conditions again, I also enjoy how this show portrays religion. The slaughter of the innocent villagers was very sad. I’m wondering if the sole survivor aka ring stealing girl will make another appearance.
Oct 13, 2019 2:30 PM

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Another great episode. It depressing as hell. Also loved the atmosphere.
Oct 13, 2019 2:31 PM

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On the battlefield you can find only despair and excitement ( I guess).
It is fascinating how this anime shows the real value of human life.
Oct 13, 2019 2:33 PM
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irondark30 said:
I think the point of it was to show that maybe, just maybe Askeladd lied about his Danish blood being weaker than his Welsh blood. He mentioned that pillaging villages was a Danish tradition that they had to carry out, which is odd considering he said he wouldn't let the Danes step one foot on the land, when in fact his own men are on the land, and carrying out their traditions nonetheless. In addition when he spoke in Welsh to the villagers, it was suppose to communicate a sense of relatability yet he showed no mercy to these people, his "real" people. Basically Askeladd really is a piece of shit.


They stopped marching through Wales because it started snowing, and they can't get through the welsh mountains in a snowstorm, so they took a shortcut through England. He's welsh so hates the saxons/anglos, the people who live in England.
Oct 13, 2019 2:36 PM
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Lol at the people who suddenly feel surprised and complain about the brutality. Like what show you were watching until now? Just cause stuff like this wasn't directly depicted, you thought it isn't perfectly normal for these characters? This isn't some shounen action series, it's damn right that it deals with what war is actually like, and what it does to people on all sides.

I like what they did with this episode, puts things back into perspective and should probably do good for the pacing.
Oct 13, 2019 2:53 PM

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Thorfinn looks so used to this kind of things. He's so blinded by revenge that he can't even differentiate right from wrongs. Though, in his time, survival is the priority even if you have to side with the wrongs.

In the end the girl's lips have turned purple, meaning she's about to die in the snow. It's better that way. Her 'good', faithful family have all gone to heaven and her, the 'sinned' one is left to suffer in living hell. It's better that she dies. Her saying that she's excited after seeing her family get massacred is such a surprise. It seems like either she's gone crazy or she has a wild side to her. After all, her stealing and Askeladd's guys killing are both crimes. It's not a surprise that she's excited when introduced to the 'other' side of life.

I'm honestly surprised that Canute wasn't even fazed during this whole ordeal. Is he okay with that?? Or is he just too scared to say anything??
Oct 13, 2019 2:54 PM
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Woah. The anime actually let vikings be vikings. Great idea to put it through the girl's eyes. Dark, depressing but well executed.
Oct 13, 2019 2:57 PM

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Episode of the year right there
Oct 13, 2019 3:04 PM

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Thorfinn looks so used to this kind of things. He's so blinded by revenge that he can't even differentiate right from wrongs. Though, in his time, survival is the priority even if you have to side with the wrongs.

In the end the girl's lips have turned purple, meaning she's about to die in the snow. It's better that way. Her 'good', faithful family have all gone to heaven and her, the 'sinned' one is left to suffer in living hell. It's better that she dies. Her saying that she's excited after seeing her family get massacred is such a surprise. It seems like either she's gone crazy or she has a wild side to her. After all, her stealing and Askeladd's guys killing are both crimes. It's not a surprise that she's excited when introduced to the 'other' side of life.

I'm honestly surprised that Canute wasn't even fazed during this whole ordeal. Is he okay with that?? Or is he just too scared to say anything??


he had seen the slaughter all his life
Oct 13, 2019 3:18 PM
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I was losing faith in the anime but this ep was very interesting. Just want them to give the focus back to the protagonist soon.
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Oct 13, 2019 3:24 PM

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Damn. That was the level of "evilness" I was expecting when I started watching. Why the Danes were feared. Not only because of how they fought in the battlefield, but because they were mercyless. Anyways, is Vinland still going to be important on the anime? I feel like Vinland has been forgotten.

For the anime? Nop, theres a reason why this is called ''prologue arc'', vinland wont be very important until the story moves to the mid/end of the second arc, but it will be very important to the story.
Oct 13, 2019 3:25 PM
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I was losing faith in the anime but this ep was very interesting. Just want them to give the focus back to the protagonist soon.

But Askeladd had a decent amount of screen time this episode and the last few as well.
Oct 13, 2019 3:34 PM

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Cruelest episode by far a mile, my hate for them starts to get stronger than ever.
Oct 13, 2019 3:35 PM
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DupeusT31 said:
I was losing faith in the anime but this ep was very interesting. Just want them to give the focus back to the protagonist soon.

But Askeladd had a decent amount of screen time this episode and the last few as well.
Ik, but I was talking about Thorfinn screentime. I want to see how he'll develop into a pacifist cuz that's why I started watching the anime.
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Oct 13, 2019 3:48 PM

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The episode was brutal in a sense and very reminiscent of what life was worth at those times but at the same time it brought nothing new to the table - as we were already shown many times before they are heartless bunch of killers. Sadly the girl was just another throwaway character.

The only thing I can think of is this was meant as catalyst for upcoming Askeladd's death but it was still just more of the same as always. It almost felt like episodic filler if not for that priest (who is really weird character plot-wise if you ask me).

I'm not saying the atmosphere is bad or something and I thought they improved a bit with last three great episodes. But the pacing issues are obviously still there. I'm no longer sure there would be any good payoff in the end to balance this dragging crawl from the start (in fact this is the same problem Wit had with first Attack on Titan).
Oct 13, 2019 3:56 PM

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Damn... This episode was priceless... Sad, beautiful, well-polished, well composited, really great BGM, amazing directing... And the storyboard, that fucking storyboard was fucking nuts, i'm speechless... It really left me with a hollowed feeling but not in a bad way, it really holds a sense of realism and harshness which another reason I love this series so far, but this episode visually delivered more than what I expected, from polished art, backgrounds and character acting animation...

Definitely a 10/10 for me.
Oct 13, 2019 4:07 PM

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adaptation of this part was very good
Oct 13, 2019 4:11 PM
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I don't really get the purpose of this episode. We all know that vikings do bad stuff, we've seen it the show plenty of times already. Did they really need to do a whole episode about this?


There are a lot of things will happen because of this episode. Remember when Askeladd said "if there's someone survive, we will be surrounded by enemies" or something like that (I'm sorry, I don't really remember but you get the point. This is from the scene where the villagers got murdered). And then, guess what? Anne survive in this event. So you can guess what will happen...

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Lawren222 said:
irondark30 said:
I think the point of it was to show that maybe, just maybe Askeladd lied about his Danish blood being weaker than his Welsh blood. He mentioned that pillaging villages was a Danish tradition that they had to carry out, which is odd considering he said he wouldn't let the Danes step one foot on the land, when in fact his own men are on the land, and carrying out their traditions nonetheless. In addition when he spoke in Welsh to the villagers, it was suppose to communicate a sense of relatability yet he showed no mercy to these people, his "real" people. Basically Askeladd really is a piece of shit.
⁹ I just want to clarify they were not in Wales when this happened, they were in Mercia( which is a part of England) the manga made them not being in Wales at this point a bit clear. Askeladd can communicate because Welsh and English are very similar languages. Nothing he did he hear contradicted what he said about wanting to protect Wales but it showed us that even he does have a noble goal he is still a monster all the same.


You're right to clarify that this episode is set in England which apparently a few people missed, but Welsh is not similar to English as a language, Old Norse is actually much closer to English, especially the Old English they'd have been speaking here.
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⁹ I just want to clarify they were not in Wales when this happened, they were in Mercia( which is a part of England) the manga made them not being in Wales at this point a bit clear. Askeladd can communicate because Welsh and English are very similar languages. Nothing he did he hear contradicted what he said about wanting to protect Wales but it showed us that even he does have a noble goal he is still a monster all the same.


You're right to clarify that this episode is set in England which apparently a few people missed, but Welsh is not similar to English as a language, Old Norse is actually much closer to English, especially the Old English they'd have been speaking here.
Hmm for some reason I thought I heard they were similar.So Askeladd can speak three languages then I guess? He is smart and has being raiding England for 10 years so it does makes sense.
Oct 13, 2019 4:28 PM

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That was a good and emotional episode, the end was sad.
The only thing I don't like is that the girl at the end managed to stay alive after sleeping the whole night in the snow.
Oct 13, 2019 4:48 PM

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These guys are brutal as vikings are supposed to be.
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Lawren222 said:
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You're right to clarify that this episode is set in England which apparently a few people missed, but Welsh is not similar to English as a language, Old Norse is actually much closer to English, especially the Old English they'd have been speaking here.
Hmm for some reason I thought I heard they were similar.So Askeladd can speak three languages then I guess? He is smart and has being raiding England for 10 years so it does makes sense.


Welsh is a language of the Celts native to Britain more similar to Irish and Scottish gaelic, whilst Old English was brought over more recently by the Anglo-Saxons (English) and shares a common root with Norse.

Askeladd is well travelled and definitely speaks Norse, Welsh and English (when he asked the fisherman a couple of episodes ago to deliver his message he did so in English and the fisherman commented that his English was good but it sounded like he had a Welsh accent).

From Askeladd's point of view the English already invaded his country and England is just the part of old Britannia that they're currently squatting in, so he likely doesn't think much better of them than he does the Danes.

That allows him to do the things he did in this episode with few qualms while he probably wouldn't have done the same in Wales (although they really would be screwed if they hadn't done this).
Oct 13, 2019 5:21 PM
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That was so so mentally tough.
Oct 13, 2019 6:09 PM
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Arguably the weakest episode in the series thus far. The gratuitous violence and empty monologues did nothing for the show. We already knew that this is a grim, cruel, and violent world and that Askeladd and his crew and the worst of the worst. This episode was wholly unnecessary.

On a personal level, I found it to be both disturbing and morbid. Seeing an innocent, God-fearing family, and village for that matter, cut down for no reason felt both wrong and like it was used for cheap shock value. I see that they were trying to establish empathy with this family by showing innocent children and how their hands have been beaten and battered by both the intense cold and the hard work that comes with living in that environment. But honestly, it all felt empty as we didn't know these people, nor do they have any impact on the story whatsoever. Same with the girl's monologue. I assume it was used to show that Askeladd and his men are beyond redemption and do not care about any consequences that may follow.

The priest's rambling continues to make zero sense, but his interest with Thorfinn's father is somewhat interesting. But I would hardly call it development for his character.

Other than that, this felt like a waste of time. Everything it established and put on display here are things we've known the first episodes.
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This episode was dark, brutal and yet really good, I'm loving the animation and art style for this show
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Askeladd is increasingly dark. I think he's gradually losing himself mentally and getting bigger and bigger with his ego. Or maybe he's planning something attacking the village like that, there's no way to know. I like him for being a totally unpredictable character.
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I don't get people saying this episode was useless or nothing happened in it when it was so obvious that Askeladd said if one of them survived they might tell those who are following them, and the plan might fail if they get surrounded by enemies. I don't think Anne role is done yet. Askeladd's fears came to fruition and one from the village saw everything and escaped after all.
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Askeladd is increasingly dark. I think he's gradually losing himself mentally and getting bigger and bigger with his ego. Or maybe he's planning something attacking the village like that, there's no way to know. I like him for being a totally unpredictable character.


He attached the village for his men and the prince to have a place to stay at and not freeze to death outside, there`s no further reason than that. Remember he said to Ragnar that they need a place and food for his men and it so happened that that village is right infront of them.

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I don't get people saying this episode was useless or nothing happened in it when it was so obvious that Askeladd said if one of them survived they might tell whose who are following them, and the plan might fail if they get surrounded by enemies. I don't think Anne role is done yet. Askeladd's fears came to fruition and one of the village saw everything and escaped after all.


Agree with you, it seems some viewers are not paying attention of what they are watching. And yes, her role is not done yet.

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Kira70 said:
Askeladd is increasingly dark. I think he's gradually losing himself mentally and getting bigger and bigger with his ego. Or maybe he's planning something attacking the village like that, there's no way to know. I like him for being a totally unpredictable character.


He atacked the village because his men needed the food to make through the winter, he killed everyone because he didnt want any survivors alerting the english that they where there.
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mainavi said:
Kira70 said:
Askeladd is increasingly dark. I think he's gradually losing himself mentally and getting bigger and bigger with his ego. Or maybe he's planning something attacking the village like that, there's no way to know. I like him for being a totally unpredictable character.


He attached the village for his men and the prince to have a place to stay at and not freeze to death outside, there`s no further reason than that. Remember he said to Ragnar that they need a place and food for his men and it so happened that that village is right infront of them.
Eu sei disso porra, and even though I think his ego is rising. It was a very futile reason for him to need to eradicate an entire village. Comparing with Askeladd since the beginning of the anime, he's getting more cruel. Even from the start, he looks like a villain, sometimes he doesn't look as bad as he was in this last episode.
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The violence was, once again, necessary in this episode; if the massacre was taken out from this episode, then Askeladd and his band would've died (unless the writer wrote around this from happening).

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He attached the village for his men and the prince to have a place to stay at and not freeze to death outside, there`s no further reason than that. Remember he said to Ragnar that they need a place and food for his men and it so happened that that village is right infront of them.
Eu sei disso porra, and even though I think his ego is rising. It was a very futile reason for him to need to eradicate an entire village. Comparing with Askeladd since the beginning of the anime, he's getting more cruel. Even from the start, he looks like a villain, sometimes he doesn't look as bad as he was in this last episode.


I don't understand: how is Askeladd any different from how he was in the beginning? He's been massacring and pillaging villages for years.

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Arguably the weakest episode in the series thus far.


I disagree for 3 reasons:

1) Without the violence in this episode, Askeladd and his band would've died from the cold.
2) This time, there's more intimate detail on the massacre: the perspective is shifted towards the villagers to build, even a little empathy for them.
3) As others have pointed out, Anne's survival is very crucial for the later episodes (that is, if they adapt the manga as they are now, which they most likely will)

Although I kind of agree with the monologing in this episode being pointless.

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The priest's rambling continues to make zero sense, but his interest with Thorfinn's father is somewhat interesting. But I would hardly call it development for his character.


I thought that what the writer was trying to communicate with the priest's rambling was very clear: the priest's idea of love, is caring for everybody's life; not willing to kill anyone.

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This episode is perfect in every way possible.
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He attached the village for his men and the prince to have a place to stay at and not freeze to death outside, there`s no further reason than that. Remember he said to Ragnar that they need a place and food for his men and it so happened that that village is right infront of them.
Eu sei disso porra, and even though I think his ego is rising. It was a very futile reason for him to need to eradicate an entire village. Comparing with Askeladd since the beginning of the anime, he's getting more cruel. Even from the start, he looks like a villain, sometimes he doesn't look as bad as he was in this last episode.


This is actually the most justified massacre he's ever ordered, and he's ordered plenty.

Usually it's plunder for plunder's sake, this time it's the only way to keep his band provisioned and moving and avoid alerting his pursuers or local forces.
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That was a really cold episode.

Now I really hate Askeladd and his band of evil fucks more than anything right now. When is Thorfinn going to slay the bastard, this is getting way out of hand. This was truly evil, I'm hating on Thorfinn for helping and letting happen in front of him.

This episode was a true form of evil.
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The violence was, once again, necessary in this episode; if the massacre was taken out from this episode, then Askeladd and his band would've died (unless the writer wrote around this from happening).

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Eu sei disso porra, and even though I think his ego is rising. It was a very futile reason for him to need to eradicate an entire village. Comparing with Askeladd since the beginning of the anime, he's getting more cruel. Even from the start, he looks like a villain, sometimes he doesn't look as bad as he was in this last episode.


I don't understand: how is Askeladd any different from how he was in the beginning? He's been massacring and pillaging villages for years.

Todd_ said:
Arguably the weakest episode in the series thus far.


I disagree for 3 reasons:

1) Without the violence in this episode, Askeladd and his band would've died from the cold.
2) This time, there's more intimate detail on the massacre: the perspective is shifted towards the villagers to build, even a little empathy for them.
3) As others have pointed out, Anne's survival is very crucial for the later episodes (that is, if they adapt the manga as they are now, which they most likely will)

Although I kind of agree with the monologing in this episode being pointless.

Todd_ said:
The priest's rambling continues to make zero sense, but his interest with Thorfinn's father is somewhat interesting. But I would hardly call it development for his character.


I thought that what the writer was trying to communicate with the priest's rambling was very clear: the priest's idea of love, is caring for everybody's life; not willing to kill anyone.
Not in cold blood like that

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