Isekai wa Smartphone to Tomo ni. Episode 1 Discussion

Ukkoclap said:
I like all the critique this anime is getting. People finally realize how badly SAO was written, bad story bad characters, full of ass pulls just like this.

lordzeru said:
This is probably the worst of the current airing isekai shows. Complete lack of creative writing, and the MC just reeks of gary-stu, shallow nonsense. It will be hard to imagine myself watching beyond this first episode.

AnimeFanboy1234 said:
It appears as though the studio wanted to experiment, and create the ultimate basic shitty isekai harem anime:

-Gary Stu MC
-MC with 0 personality
-No conflict
-No plot
-Bland dialogue
-Camera movements to disguise the:
-Non-existent animation
-Fight scenes so shitty, that it's an insult to shitty fight scenes

Bearfax62 said:
Personally, I found it incredibly mediocre.

The first half was downright atrocious: gave me little to no reason to care about this random, self-insert dude who died off screen, the whole "God gave me a second chance at life" thing which is such an overdone cliche at this point, and they just started throwing in "Waifus"™ out of nowhere while not giving them NEARLY enough personality traits beyond their generic behavior to warrant actually caring about them. And when you mess up the women in your harem anime, you're basically doomed from the start.

That's not even going into how blatant of a Gary Stu the protagonist is: I mean, God even says "there's basically no way you can die!" which ruins all the dramatic stakes from the very beginning and throws subtlety straight out the window. At least other anime are either subtle about it, or use the MC's overpoweredness as a running gag. This just feels like "we know that the MC is completely unbeatable, and we don't care about it".

On the other hand, the second half was... better. Not good, but better. The whole "I have future technology and food you've never heard of: let me show you!" thing was actually really endearing, and I hope that this show does more of that as it goes on. Especially seeing as how the first half basically all but ignored his phone: which is basically the only thing separating this anime from every other fantasy harem anime so far.

But I'm getting my hopes up. Chances are, this will just end up being another generic harem show with an overpowered protagonist and a concept that reeks of missed potential. Or maybe TV TOKYO will prove me wrong and actually produce something solid. Who knows?

Ryulightorb said:



read the novel

he isn't a gary stu in it
he has personality a lot of it.
there is conflict
same with plot there is an overarching theme
Dialouge is better then most 8.0 animes on MAL in the novel

Haven't seen the anime but it seems like they did a huge disfavour to the novel smh.

katsu044 said:
might wanna watch it before you go all Defense Brigade on people :P

had zero exceptions going in with yet another Isekai, was truly a highly unimpressive first episode following most of the typical LN tropes which just came off as uninspired and lazy not to say it was out right hot trash but it left a lot to desire, Konosuba this is not.

3 episode rule though i doubt ill keep going with this if it doesn't get any better

Ryulightorb said:


if you read what i said i wasn't defending the anime.
i was saying read the novel if you want the experience is 100x better (Watching it now and whilst it's mostly the same integral bits of info are missing and just feels wrong).

It's meant to be a trope heavy novel / anime (that's a good thing imo) and is very different from Konosuba.

I can't speak for the anime as what im seeing is a terrible adaption so far but the novel is far superior so i more or less thing anyone that wants to see this done right should just read the light novel.

I'm kinda annoyed with the adaption so far but they haven';t skipped over the most important parts yet.

The novel starts slow to be fair i would argue since the pacing of the anime seems alot slower it just feels dragged out and boring then at some parts the pacing sky rockets foward so it's like wtf? i'm gonna keep watching on.

But you probably misunderstood what i was saying i went to watching it right before that comment i paused to do some stuff but more or less i'm recommending the novel if anyone is truly interested in this series.

But i have high hopes they can still turn it around but by the pacing is atrocious.


For reference the start of the episode (5 minutes in) takes 3 minutes to get to at an average reading pace the end of the episode takes 3-4 hours to get to at an average reading pace.

Faster would suit an anime better yes but it's like....how fast do you need to go? god damn.

katsu044 said:
my mistake at the time it read like you were defending it without even watching it due to reading the LN by the time i posted it you had already watched some of it.

Ryulightorb said:


Did they really do that bad of an adaption?
The Novel was written so well the mc was not a gary-stu it was creative and was better then most isekai animes and light novels.

Haven't watched it yet but after seeing the reviews either.

Anime viewers are hopeless - i find this less likely

or

It was a horrible adaption - i believe this will be the case.

lordzeru said:


I don't read light novels, but I would bet money that the adaption is pretty bad. The pacing is quite rushed. They hit the minimum level of detail needed to keep the story afloat and shuffle the main character off to do typical isekai events.

Frost993 said:


I'm not going to spoil it, just saying normally I give an anime 3 ep for me to like it. Then I judge if il watch it or not. Just a suggestion since it airs weekly, just take that one day every week for 3 weeks to see if you like it. If you don't then cool, this anime isn't for everyone (Don't forget its a harem anime and that if you have time, read the light novel. Its had more detail then the anime (in my opinion))

It's just the first ep, their not going to give you the whole fish at once. They'll chop it up once a week and give it to you :P You can't say that fish is shit on the first day if you had a tiny bit, you have to try it a couple times to get the feel of it.

Tokoya said:
Wasn't as bad as I thought it was going to be and it's certainly not the worst first episode I've seen this season

The best part about this was the twins for me because I found them to be pretty fun but other than that, there wasn't anything special about this and the MC is pretty much the a Gary Stu lead which is typical in this genre to begin with

One thing I will say is that I like that he's not really like standard MC's in this genre personality wise but as of right now, he's kinda bland and that could be a bad thing in the long run

Ryulightorb said:


if you read what i said i wasn't defending the anime.
i was saying read the novel if you want the experience is 100x better (Watching it now and whilst it's mostly the same integral bits of info are missing and just feels wrong).

It's meant to be a trope heavy novel / anime (that's a good thing imo) and is very different from Konosuba.

I can't speak for the anime as what im seeing is a terrible adaption so far but the novel is far superior so i more or less thing anyone that wants to see this done right should just read the light novel.

I'm kinda annoyed with the adaption so far but they haven';t skipped over the most important parts yet.

The novel starts slow to be fair i would argue since the pacing of the anime seems alot slower it just feels dragged out and boring then at some parts the pacing sky rockets foward so it's like wtf? i'm gonna keep watching on.

But you probably misunderstood what i was saying i went to watching it right before that comment i paused to do some stuff but more or less i'm recommending the novel if anyone is truly interested in this series.

But i have high hopes they can still turn it around but by the pacing is atrocious.


For reference the start of the episode (5 minutes in) takes 3 minutes to get to at an average reading pace the end of the episode takes 3-4 hours to get to at an average reading pace.

Faster would suit an anime better yes but it's like....how fast do you need to go? god damn.

BurningSpirit said:
The episode doesn't give me much hope of the potential of this show, however the people here seem way too harsh. Chill out guys, it's been 1 episode and it's mostly set-up.

Also neither the main character nor the girls have done anything yet, it is 1 episode after all. Generic seems a little harsh, just because they don't have some dark edgy backstory doesn't immediately make them a boring/generic character. Give them time, geez

That however is not to say I've got no issues with it, it bothers me seeing how much power god gas given the main character and that the show is a harem. It doesn't have an action tag, so there still some hope in me that the show will revolve solely around exploring the possibilities of the mobile phone in the alternate universe (rather than how OP the main character is).

AnimeFanboy1234 said:
"it's been 1 episode and it's mostly set-up."
Your point?

Saito6689 said:
I dont get the hate, i enjoyed it.
The MC seems likeable.

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


I have no problem with the pacing.
Even Monster, criticized for its slow pacing, tells you from the 1st ep that there is a conflict, even if the main one hadn't begun yet.
The only reason I'm watching the anime, is because I'm in the mood for shitty isekai harem garbage, because it's easy to consume, and goddamn it, I want to be in a fantasy world surrounded by hot girls.
So that's why I don't see a reason to read the light novel.

The, "light novel is better" argument is ovesaturated, yet it has no substance.
If you want to convince people to read the light novel, you gotta elaborate more, then just say, "it's got better dialogue, the MC has personality, etc". Like examples.

GD1551 said:


I thought he seemed a lot better than most of the other LN MCs and at least his power doesn't just come out of his ass. Still tho this show goes hard on the LN tropes, the only thing that stood out to me was the MC being normal, like in a bland way as you stated. LNs in particularly need more of these types, not the mahouka dude or the SAO guy who are just good at everything and have a bunch of special stuff "just because". At least in his case a higher power granted him the ability to be OP, which is better than most LN BS and he acts like a normal person (so far at least). Hopefully this show stays lighter and doesn't try to be serious, because that would probably ruin it.

Frost993 said:


I'm not going to spoil it, just saying normally I give an anime 3 ep for me to like it. Then I judge if il watch it or not. Just a suggestion since it airs weekly, just take that one day every week for 3 weeks to see if you like it. If you don't then cool, this anime isn't for everyone (Don't forget its a harem anime and that if you have time, read the light novel. Its had more detail then the anime (in my opinion))

It's just the first ep, their not going to give you the whole fish at once. They'll chop it up once a week and give it to you :P You can't say that fish is shit on the first day if you had a tiny bit, you have to try it a couple times to get the feel of it.

Ryulightorb said:


it has all that you know the scene where he got his sword...the guy out like 10 minutes worth of character development and plot development there.

The problem with the anime in regards to the light novel is merely it cuts out most of the characters development and the lore of the world that it is in that is very important.

half the problems people are complaining about are solved in the novel by stuff the cut out in the anime so it just baffles me to why they did that.

BurningSpirit said:


My point? That there's a need to properly introduce how the world works? There's also a need to slowly trickle in the characters in a harem. It's 1 episode out of 12 or 24. I don't know what you're expecting out of a harem anime where the character is sent to another universe.

I'm not saying the show is good. I'm saying it's not even possible to judge at this point for certain, though an overpowered mc is a bad sign. I'd be even more pessimistic if the show is confirmed to be 1 cour, because it will definitely mean undeveloped generic characters, since there'd be too many characters for 12 episodes. But we don't even know that for certain.

Your point?

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


I can't find my original comment (damn internet connection), but I don't recall mentioning anything about my issue with this ep being "world building".
Problems that arise early on from anime (non-existent animation, boring dialogue, 0 hints of conflict, gary stu protagonist, etc) may reduce, but still are very prevelant later on.

hotradremixlx said:
I mean its the first episode, i understand all the "bashing" but in reality its kinda pathetic that everyone is willing to bash anime as soon as it comes out without giving it a chance to progress, not all anime has to be some super serious writing with unbelievable character development and a immensely heart wrenching story. some anime can just be for fun and entertainment. also iv always believed this but i think opinions are so unbelievably influenced by herd mentality, if a few people commented how they love the show already or a famous internet personality did then everyone would say they love it, works the same for hating it. understand while you may have an opinion. saying "its garbage" is not a opinion in reality its just boring and annoying, why not leave something constructive or well structured so people can understand your point of view... or are you following a trend.

Disclaimer: Not defending this show, i am just saying its getting pathetic that the same thing is happening on all new shows with this mentality and mind set that will ruin the anime community more so than it already has.

Ryulightorb said:



Well as i said in the novel the mc is not a Gary stu he has alot of personality has his likes and dislikes and is emotional when he needs to be and complacent when he needs to be.

The dialouge isn't boring also infact imo alot of the good dialouge was either trimmed and made boring or just removed in the adaption which does the anime no favours.

Conflict doesn't come in the novel till what should be next episode no conflict early on isn't a bad thing especially when you spend the other time on personality development/character development etc but i saw little of that in the adaption.

The animation is awful also it didn't show any of the awesome attack scenes describe in the battles infact the battles went on much faster in the anime making them feel insignificant.

I hope it does reduce or they fix it but the novel really whilst it has problems doesn't have as many personally i would put the novel up there with re:zero this anime adaption though? it's like they took out it's soul.

But first episode is the first episode things can change for the better and we can only hope.

i brought up world building because the novel started focusing around Character personality , relations and world building and then opened up to questing and conflict.

There is a lot of slice of life moments in the novel and will most likely go to the anime which many people dislike this series is less about conflict but more about the experience of the new world and the adventure atleast from what i have read but things will get heated up more once he gets his coat (from the picture of the anime)

AnimeFanboy1234 said:


Your first sentence is so badly structured I can barley make out what you're saying. I'm guessing that you're saying there's a scene in the light novel that is as lengthy as 10 min, and in that scene, there's character/plot development there?

Also, you gotta give more examples.

Ryulightorb said:


yes that was what i was saying and well for example in the scene i talk about it goes into how its an Eashen sword and how Eashen is a society much like Japan.

The mc is asked if he is from Eashen and he says yes trying to fit in and they discuss what type of weapons their are and how they suit eachother needs.

He develops a newfound interest in Eashen and says he will have to go there someday to himself.

There is a few more bits of speech that are well insignificant but they shows the mc's interests which develop on him as a living breathing character.


Everything else is more or less the same it's the little things they removed.

"A Mary Sue (if female) or Marty Stu (if male) is an idealized and seemingly perfect fictional character. Often this character is recognized as an author insert or wish fulfillment."

The character is no where near perfect he is a normal person who is kind and puts others before himself and strives to help others (that is normal if that's perfect i know alot of perfect people) he isn't even perfect in the novel infact he has a lot wrong with him.

He is naive and too kind not to mention has no respect for other cultures (this could be just because he has no understanding).
He lets people push him around and is awkward as hell.

The good things he has is his immense strength and magical prowess but those were only gifts and are logical and such a thing does not make a character a mary/gary stu.

In the anime he did come off as a Gary Stu but the novel version of him was just not an ideal / perfect person unless you count a normal person as perfect and idealised.

Heck i think half the problem with him being a Gary Stu in the anime is mostly because he does seem perfect right now they haven't shown his negatives and the ones they should they cut out.

Also a character being a Gary Stu doesn't ruin an anime in the least unless they were the only good thing behind it but that's going off topic.

If they start adapting the little bits he will become well not a Gary stu in most peoples eye at least not objectively.

Question is will they adapt those things i don't know i'm not part of the adaption team \o/