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Jun 16, 2016 8:41 AM
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Comic_Sans said:
Seriously? Why did Miyoshi have to die?

They should've picked someone who was ugly instead


Eh? No-one's ugly in Joker Game. At least not the spies, lol.
Jun 16, 2016 8:56 AM
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Sorry guys *cries*. I rewatched the episode and I still stand on my statement. I don't believe he's dead. I can't, beacuse I think a piece is missing from this whole puzzle that doesn't let me being fully convinced in his death. No matter how much it's true I won't be able to wrap my head around of it to the very end.

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I find it difficult to believe that Miyoshi is dead. He looked way too smug when that metal bar pierced his chest, as if he was expecting it to happen.


Isn't it? The spies so far were overconfidently carrying out their missions; that's why Miyoshi's death is something I can hardly accept it happened.

And, I wanna mention something. I don't feel anything about Miyoshi; I don't like him nor dislike him; but I honestly find his death a cheap move by the author. It's stupid, no? Miyoshi is the star among the elite spies, it's just...argh, untinkable for him to die! This episode literally left me so frustrated.
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yuliyana29 said:
Sorry guys *cries*. I rewatched the episode and I still stand on my statement. I don't believe he's dead. I can't, beacuse I think a piece is missing from this whole puzzle that doesn't let me being fully convinced in his death. No matter how much it's true I won't be able to wrap my head around of it to the very end.

Bibimbapski said:
I find it difficult to believe that Miyoshi is dead. He looked way too smug when that metal bar pierced his chest, as if he was expecting it to happen.


Isn't it? The spies so far were overconfidently carrying out their missions; that's why Miyoshi's death is something I can hardly accept it happened.

And, I wanna mention something. I don't feel anything about Miyoshi; I don't like him nor dislike him; but I honestly find his death a cheap move by the author. It's stupid, no? Miyoshi is the star among the elite spies, it's just...argh, untinkable for him to die! This episode literally left me so frustrated.


someone in reddit (https://www.reddit.com/r/anime/comments/4o2ejq/spoilers_joker_game_episode_11_discussion/d49j8mp) who is reading the novels mentioned something rather interesting:
Hi, I'm still in the middle of reading the novels, but the stories/missions are episodic so they do not really affect each other directly. You wouldn't hear the character of one mission interact with a character in another mission. The only continuous element with each story is Yuuki, so he is essentially the main character of the entire series. Sakuma probably won't return? But I'm still reading...
The novels don't pinpoint which spy from the school is on which mission, that was the anime staff's decision. So, in terms of the anime, Miyoshi is dead.


tbh I think the decision to choose Miyoshi was the best... why? because even though he didn't have much screentime (albeit almost none), he was the one to leave the most impact at the beginning of the series (and the one people wanted to see the most too) which helped create that shock effect (if it was another spy people cared less it wouldn't have such an "devastating" impact)

plus it shows us that even as "overpowered" as they seemed to be, they're still human an they cannot escape death

(plus let's be serious here, you can only fool for a few seconds or a few minutes at most to play dead in the middle of a huge commotion, apart from that it's plain delirious to believe he was faking his death for two day straigh with such wound! I know it's sad and all that, but still)

EDIT: another post worth reading about ep11: http://great-blaster.tumblr.com/post/145986577800/my-spoiler-thoughts-and-maybe-clarifications-for
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yuliyana29 said:
Comic_Sans said:
Seriously? Why did Miyoshi have to die?

They should've picked someone who was ugly instead


Eh? No-one's ugly in Joker Game. At least not the spies, lol.
Odagiri is

He looks fat
Nico- said:
@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Comic_Sans said:
yuliyana29 said:


Eh? No-one's ugly in Joker Game. At least not the spies, lol.
Odagiri is

He looks fat


if I'm not mistaken Odagiri comes from a military background, so his body must be more build and hence why it may seem to you he looks "fatter" in comparison to the others (pretty much like Sakuma or those Wind Agency dudes who clearly seem to have more muscle mass than the average person or the average D-agency spy)

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NemuriNezumi said:
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Odagiri is

He looks fat


if I'm not mistaken Odagiri comes from a military background, so his body must be more build and hence why it may seem to you he looks "fatter" in comparison to the others (pretty much like Sakuma or those Wind Agency dudes who clearly seem to have more muscle mass than the average person or the average D-agency spy)
Okay

That still doesn't change the fact that he's ugly
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Comic_Sans said:
NemuriNezumi said:


if I'm not mistaken Odagiri comes from a military background, so his body must be more build and hence why it may seem to you he looks "fatter" in comparison to the others (pretty much like Sakuma or those Wind Agency dudes who clearly seem to have more muscle mass than the average person or the average D-agency spy)
Okay

That still doesn't change the fact that he's ugly


this supposed "fact" is pretty much only a personal opinion

imo Gamou looks worse(?)

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NemuriNezumi said:
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Okay

That still doesn't change the fact that he's ugly


this supposed "fact" is pretty much only a personal opinion

imo Gamou looks worse(?)
Oh yeah I had completely forgotten about him
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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@NemuriNezumi Thank you very much for all of the informations. By the way, the last post just hit me in the feels. The PS in the end is even worse. *sniff*
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Man couldn't they kill any of the other members D: Miyoshi was the most interesting of them. Loved his actions in the first and second episode. The other guys were fine but they couldn't reach him and I doubt the final episode will change my mind on that.
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I like the way the show is going except...

I want more of Yuki in the episodes, not just when he shows up at the end of something! Like more into this backstory!!
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NemuriNezumi said:
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You read the novels? In english or japanese? I was thinking if I should pick them up since I really like this series...


As far as I know there is no english version, only a japanese and chinese one


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You read the novels? In english or japanese? I was thinking if I should pick them up since I really like this series...
In Chinese. I'm not sure if there are English translations.


Thank you for answering my question! Will it be okay to share with me where I may be able to read the Chinese version as well?
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Moron said:
NemuriNezumi said:


As far as I know there is no english version, only a japanese and chinese one


rayeine said:
In Chinese. I'm not sure if there are English translations.


Thank you for answering my question! Will it be okay to share with me where I may be able to read the Chinese version as well?


the easier way to read them would be to buy them:

Joker Game (JG 1): http://www.yesasia.com/global/d-ji-guan1-joker-game/1030277063-0-0-0-en/info.html
Double Joker (JG 2): http://www.yesasia.com/global/d-ji-guan2-double-joker/1030892484-0-0-0-en/info.html
Paradise Lost (JG 3): http://www.yesasia.com/global/d-ji-guan3-paradise-lost/1035984762-0-0-0-en/info.html

PD: couldn't find the last one (Last waltz)

EDIT: or this shop may be a better option for you: Joker Game (https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789866043079), Double Joker (https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789866043239) and Paradise Lost (https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789866043918)
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Underwhelming episode. I hoped it would turn out that Miyoshi had faked his death or something
Jun 17, 2016 5:03 PM

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turns out that the spy whos episodde i had been looking forward to the most died. Its not even like he died at the end of the episode after we see him actually doing stuff, hes been dead the whole episode with brief scenes before he died.
"My name is Yoshikage Kira. I'm 33 years old. My house is in the northeast section of Morioh, where the villas are, and i am not married. I work as an employee for the Kame Yu department stores, and i get home every day by 8 PM at the latest. I don't smoke, but i occasionally drink. I'm in bed by 11 PM, and make sure I get 8 hours of sleep, no matter what. After having a glass of warm milk and doing about twenty minutes of stretches before going to bed, I usually have no problems sleeping until morning. Just like a baby, I wake up without any fatigue or stress in the morning. I was told there were no issues at my last checkup."
Jun 17, 2016 8:18 PM

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Sad that Miyoshi died, he was a good spy, and this episode was particularly interesting.
Damn i am speechless, even though that he knew that he will die he never failed to be a spy, even in his last moments, that amazing and sad at the same time.
At first, i thought that he faked his death but i was wrong :/
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Lelouch0202 said:
Sad that Miyoshi had to die, But man even in his dyring moments he knew that Yuuki would come after him and marked the list with his blood. Props to him.

I'll say it again Yuuki is OP XD

I really liked what the German general said at the end, "Even though the man called Maki will remain buried without anyone knowing his identity, The Information he left behind will live on" . Spies are the true martyrs.

I must say the show has gotten really good in this last quarter.


Exactly, i can't even imagine how thy were trained to become like this...
Even thought that he was dying he managed to hide the information of all spies and he knew that his boss would be there to recover it.
It's actually very impressing but it's still sad.
Great episode.
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NemuriNezumi said:
Moron said:




Thank you for answering my question! Will it be okay to share with me where I may be able to read the Chinese version as well?


the easier way to read them would be to buy them:

Joker Game (JG 1): http://www.yesasia.com/global/d-ji-guan1-joker-game/1030277063-0-0-0-en/info.html
Double Joker (JG 2): http://www.yesasia.com/global/d-ji-guan2-double-joker/1030892484-0-0-0-en/info.html
Paradise Lost (JG 3): http://www.yesasia.com/global/d-ji-guan3-paradise-lost/1035984762-0-0-0-en/info.html

PD: couldn't find the last one (Last waltz)

EDIT: or this shop may be a better option for you: Joker Game (https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789866043079), Double Joker (https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789866043239) and Paradise Lost (https://singapore.kinokuniya.com/bw/9789866043918)


Thank you for the links!
Jun 18, 2016 12:26 AM

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Wow I didn't expect that a spy will really die. Miyoshi did his job until the end, R.I.P.
Jun 18, 2016 11:45 AM

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Mormegil said:
Everyone is crying about Miyoshi and I don't even remember who he was...


Mainly only girls are crying lol. For obvious reasons.

Thank God they still haven't lost the direction.
Jun 18, 2016 2:56 PM

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Please, Colonel Wolff, contain your excitement.



Another fragment of Yuuki's background is revealed. Delightful.
Jun 19, 2016 3:07 AM

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Man, Miyoshi was the last person I expected to die, and he waved a hand first. Truly a sad episode.


Shuhan said:
I cant differentiate any of the spies in D agency, the same face and lack of characterization made it hard to feel anything for Maki's death.
That means that they are pretty good spies. The are very few parts you can try figuring bits about them and mostly it's by their expressions in said moments.
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I mean, it's not like I was waiting for the Miyoshi episode or anything... T﹏T


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Late watch, good episode
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yuliyana29 said:
@NemuriNezumi Thank you very much for all of the informations. By the way, the last post just hit me in the feels. The PS in the end is even worse. *sniff*


here new stuff about ep 11! (I was waiting for someone to translate the whole thing, but it was already posted on the official website a couple of days ago)

http://sekinosemimaru.tumblr.com/post/146158001083/chief-researcher-shirato-seiichis-column-ep-11

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Jun 19, 2016 10:31 AM

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10/10 episode. Loved the back-story with the older characters and how it tied into the present episode.
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So, I literally just caught up and I thought the episode was pretty interesting with the whole premise of German tactics and off mentions of war alliances. I think it was really intriguing how Yuuki was literally several steps ahead of the whole situation, and how
Ha, the Colonel's face was priceless to me. D-Agency is best Agency! -u-

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Yuuki is just ahead of them all. And rip Miyoshi

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Fresh_Mint said:
Miyoshi's dead just like that huh? He died smiling. That's pretty amazing considering there was a steel beam piercing his chest.

Once again Yuuki proves he is best girl of the show. Simple execution and a quick reaction. He was probably aware of that paranoid general's intentions the entire time as well.

*claps*
was paia see someone from the agency dies soon the Miyoshi ...
Jun 20, 2016 9:07 AM
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whoa just need only one more episode tou sad ... how will! !!!!!!
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I CANT BELIEVE!!!!!!
Why they need kill the best character............. arghhhhhhh........


Nope. Yuuki is.

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Honestly. I am very, very baffled to see all of the posts here say that Miyoshi is dead for real. I wonder if also, at least anyone actually thought of this other possibility. Here I ago: D-Agency motto is "Dont' die, don't kill." This motto is basically a law for the spies; they are bound/obligated to carry it out with any flaws. Thus said, I doubt that a spy who belongs to an agency with such motto and leader as Yuuki, will chose death as final. Wasn't it constantly repeated over the series that for a spy, the worst decision one can make is to kill or die.
If Miyoshi didn't look convincing enough that he is dead, the germans would still think that he is alive and they wouldnn't stop with what they have started, so of course he has to act dead and fool them to accomplish his mission perfectly, according to keikaku. He is a spy after all, being obvious/suspicious isn't his trait. I might be wrong, he may be really dead, but I don't want to jump to conclusions at some point, considering I've seen this show manged to troll the viewers quite good sometimes - Altough I haven't comment none about that here, still I've been observing while this series are in broadcast. So, I don't want to see people getting mad on this anime ends up trolling you if it turns out that Miyoshi isn't dead.
By the way, don't mourn over Miyoshi way to seriously because


Most likely, the preview for the final episode:




WOW I want to believe THIS
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anohimenome said:
yuliyana29 said:


Nope. Yuuki is.

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Honestly. I am very, very baffled to see all of the posts here say that Miyoshi is dead for real. I wonder if also, at least anyone actually thought of this other possibility. Here I ago: D-Agency motto is "Dont' die, don't kill." This motto is basically a law for the spies; they are bound/obligated to carry it out with any flaws. Thus said, I doubt that a spy who belongs to an agency with such motto and leader as Yuuki, will chose death as final. Wasn't it constantly repeated over the series that for a spy, the worst decision one can make is to kill or die.
If Miyoshi didn't look convincing enough that he is dead, the germans would still think that he is alive and they wouldnn't stop with what they have started, so of course he has to act dead and fool them to accomplish his mission perfectly, according to keikaku. He is a spy after all, being obvious/suspicious isn't his trait. I might be wrong, he may be really dead, but I don't want to jump to conclusions at some point, considering I've seen this show manged to troll the viewers quite good sometimes - Altough I haven't comment none about that here, still I've been observing while this series are in broadcast. So, I don't want to see people getting mad on this anime ends up trolling you if it turns out that Miyoshi isn't dead.
By the way, don't mourn over Miyoshi way to seriously because


Most likely, the preview for the final episode:




WOW I want to believe THIS
VC thinks he may be alive
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xEmptiness said:
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Everyone is crying about Miyoshi and I don't even remember who he was...


Mainly only girls are crying lol. For obvious reasons.

Thank God they still haven't lost the direction.


What direction are you talking about?
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More about Yûki, this time with no lie ! After all those episodes, I was sure nothing would be directly tied to an historical event, it was a good surprise.

Even spies are subjected to random and unpredictable events.

5/5


Why are some people unhappy to have no sentimental connection to the "heroes"? All those spies are only vectors of the stories/missions they are in. The goal is clearly to show how important spying is and how good Yûki's mastery of his art is. Not to relate/connect with those spies (who are way too high above any of us anyway)


Question I ask every week: is anyone able to tell me how far the novel series has been adapted here? Are those short stories only from the first novel? Or are we already seeing the second anthology novel? Maybe only a few handpicked stories of each book has been animated?
Jun 22, 2016 5:21 PM

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Shit why did Miyoshi have to die he was my fav. Why couldn't it be some other spy, but noo.
Jun 23, 2016 4:55 AM

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Another guy is after Yuki, and know we now a bit about Yuki's past.
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Less exciting and eventful narrative, but it proved however the episode quite interesting. But I did not understand if the spy in the pay of Yuuki is really dead, although the final image appears to endorse my hypothesis, they also do not escape the imponderable. Excellent atmosphere this time too.
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Idk anymore, this episode had me screaming internally (not in the fangirl way ofc) for about half an hour... Yuuki is so OP omg he's the best.
From all the people in the D Agency I didn't expect Miyoshi to die... I really liked him since the first chapter :'D
Jul 1, 2016 11:38 AM

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Yet again Yuuki is 1 step ahead XD.


Rip Miyoshi =''(
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Noooooo Miyoshiii :(((

But at least we got to see how Yuuki lost his left!

Final episode here we go!
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I'm so mad that Miyoshi died... I thought that there was this underlying "Miyoshi is the cool one" vibe that they gave off since the beginning of the show, but then they only show him dying????? I just don't want to accept this :(
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I don't understand as to how Yuuki escaped from them in the first place. They didn't explain what the thing was in his hand that triggered the explosion.
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I don't understand as to how Yuuki escaped from them in the first place. They didn't explain what the thing was in his hand that triggered the explosion.

I believe that was a grenade that he had taken.
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I feel seriously down because of Miyoshi. I thought there will be a plot twist in the end but
I got seriously sad :(



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Younger Yuuki's smile completely badass. Nice backstory of his escape & arm injury. Rip Miyoshi, even tho it's episodic, him appearing in earliest episodes, then dying here feels like a full journey into spy work.
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I didn't think any of Yuuki's spies would die.... such a sudden and lonely death too T^T Miyoshiiiiiii </3
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Nice episode, looking forward to see what the last episode will offer!
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It was really sad for him to die.. Until the very end I was hoping for a twist to prevent his death ahh.


Same, I kept thinking they would suddenly reveal that it was a stand-in or there was some big twist... :(
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Cool episode yet again.
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Maaan, I didn't expect Miyoshi to die. Really wish we got to see more from him.
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