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May 21, 2015 6:28 PM
#7701
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/28617/Punchline Correct title is "Punch Line". ANN, Crunchyroll & Wikipedia all list it as such. The title logo has a space between the two words. |
May 22, 2015 6:42 AM
#7702
FrodeTheKanin said: Uh, looking at the amount of episodes, airing dates and news about the anime would help you understand why it's ongoing (hint: there's a new episode coming out in the BD box of the anime on the 24th of June.)Paulo27 said: FrodeTheKanin said: Angel beats specials http://myanimelist.net/anime/9062/Angel_Beats!_Specials -Currently set on ongoing -change to completed but the ova series for angel beats is Done ._. but it still says its ongoing.. pretty sure it finished airing |
May 22, 2015 2:30 PM
#7703
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/18465/Genshiken_Nidaime Official english title by NIS America is "Genshiken Second Generation" see http://www.nisamerica.com/genshiken-2nd-gen |
May 23, 2015 4:53 PM
#7704
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=7%20Witches Add synonym "Yamada-kun to Nananin no Majo" http://myanimelist.net/anime/30641/Yankee-kun_na_Yamada-kun_to_Megane-chan_to_Majo synonym with "Nananin" logo from anime: http://i.imgur.com/ASHbhbj.png http://myanimelist.net/anime/19633/ Jap. title: "せいこう! ~幼なじみは照れくさそうに嘘をつく~" Main title: "Seikou! Osananajimi wa Terekusasou ni Uso wo Tsuku" That was already requested a year ago. Leknaat said: >Title should be Seikou!: Osananajimi wa Terekusasou ni Uso wo Tsuku. It appears that the actual official title for it is "せいこう! ~Lose A Virgin For The First Term~" Official title is the Jap. title. Check Jap. official site, Jap. Amazon, or any other source. It also written on DVD cover. |
a8e96d06dMay 24, 2015 6:25 PM
May 24, 2015 3:55 AM
#7705
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?id=7248 add Space genre |
| You all need to watch Nami. |
May 24, 2015 9:05 AM
#7706
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/17205/Cowboy_Bebop:_Ein_no_Natsuyasumi Add Title: "Ein's Summer Holiday" (Title on UK Bluray Set) |
May 25, 2015 2:21 AM
#7707
| Requests between #8021 and #8060: Completed (Updated May 29) DuelGundam2099 (8021) Done with minor tweaks on existing genres. Akarin (8022) Done. Exceptions below. - Fantasy will not be added to Angel Beats!. - Genres of Magic Kaito and Magic Kaito 1412 are matched to that of the manga. - Ecchi will not be added to Top wo Nerae! Gunbuster and Seiken Tsukai no World Break. Just because ecchi elements exist, it does not make them ecchi anime as a genre. - Jewelpet Tinkle☆ changed to Jewelpet Twinkle☆ based on official material. Magic is a more specific genre than Fantasy, thus Fantasy will not be added. Comedy is a present as a story element, not as a genre. - Macross title changes and quality checks will be made in bulk at a later date. Fennoah (8023) Partially done. I will check on the Producers later. lanblade (8024) Done. Jacquelin (8026) When multiple people are credited as a collective, we credit the collective. We do this for seiyuu units as well. Which title is incorrect? zanetu (8027) Done. lanblade (8028) Done. Exceptions below. - I need to check with the team on the yaoi and yuri genres. - See below response to 8032 on High School DxD New OVA. - Yonhyakunijuu Renpai Girl's primary format is that of an advertisement special. The YouTube upload will be treated as an early preview the same way some OVAs are previewed in theatrical screenings. - The YouTube videos of Nekota no Koto ga Ki ni Natte Shikatanai. are from April, not March, which put them after Ribbon Festa. The descriptions indicate they are a "renewal" of the Ribbon Festa special, so they should be different. - More Info on Dallos will remain. - I will need to evaluate Robot Girls Z episode 0 myself at a later time. Zazie122 (8029) Done. abystoma2 (8030) Not done. Psychological is more specific than Dementia. RocketsSnorlax (8031) Done. lanblade & belatkuro (8032) We will reassess when the December 9 OVA is released. Entry will remain as is for the time being. vodall (8033) Done. SuperRed (8034) Done. Yaoi-sensei (8035) Partially done. Romantica Club!! will be added pending a restoration of the Producers database following the previous vandalism. RocketsSnorlax, Akarin, Paulo27 (8036, 8037, 8038) Duration is correct. Rounding down is only for display purposes and does not affect watching time. abystoma2 (8039) Done. RocketsSnorlax (8040) Done. melina_putri (8041) Done. abystoma2 (8042) Not done. Space is only a setting in All That Gundam. Psychological is more specific than Dementia. Mimerio (8043) Not done. Please see the genre explanation for Fantasy. vodall (8044) Done. DuelGundam2099 (8045) Not done. Please see the genre explanation for Space. valoon (8046) Not enough information. Papan ga Panda appears to be a recurring animated character without any specific serial release format. DuelGundam2099 (8047) Not done. I cannot justify this genre for a 9-minute and 5-minute work that is part of a larger story. They should more or less inherit genres from the parent work. Shadow-Chan (8048) Done. Fargoin (8049) Alexander Filchenko is already in the database, but we are unable to denote Russian dubs at the moment. ChiekoHimegawa (8050) Done. FrodeTheKanin & Paulo27 (8051, 8052, 8054, 8055) Angel Beats! Specials will automatically change to Finished Airing on June 24, 2015, when the second special episode is released with the Blu-ray Box. Fighbird (8053) Done. RocketsSnorlax (8056) Done. Akarin (8057) Partially done. I will check Seikou! later. Done. abystoma2 (8058) Done. RocketsSnorlax (8059) Done. offmodel (8060) Student Days synonym removed from Bocchan. It is actually part of the Seishun Anime Zenshuu collection, so there will be no new entry. There was likely a confusion because this collection also has a different version of Bocchan in it. |
arsonalMay 28, 2015 8:07 PM
May 25, 2015 7:56 AM
#7708
| http://myanimelist.net/anime.php?q=prince%20of%20tennis Manga entries are in romaji. (were they renamed recently?) Isn't it about time to rename anime, too? Btw http://myanimelist.net/anime/24457/Houkago_no_Ouji-sama the title is romaji, you don't list it as something like "After School Prince"... I mean, there's no consistency now. Also add synonyms from manga for the Houkago no Ouji-sama: "Prince of After School, Prince of Afterschool, The Prince of Tennis Tribute" |
a8e96d06dMay 25, 2015 8:03 AM
May 25, 2015 8:41 AM
#7709
| Delete http://myanimelist.net/anime/30827/Break_Blade_%28TV%29_Picture_Drama Picture drama of version TV Edition BDBOX are the same in BD of movie version. http://myanimelist.net/anime/8648/Break_Blade_Picture_Drama They have the same titles. Tracklist of BD movie http://i.imgur.com/O5d2z4B.jpg http://arearaw.com/bdrip-%E5%8A%87%E5%A0%B4%E7%89%88-%E3%83%96%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%82%AF-%E3%83%96%E3%83%AC%E3%82%A4%E3%83%89-%E9%AD%94%E6%B3%95%E5%B0%91%E5%A5%B3%E5%BF%97%E6%91%A9%E5%AD%90-13-92g/ Tracklist of BDBOX TV Edition http://i.imgur.com/QOn7Ju0.jpg http://breakblade.jp/blu-ray/ |
rui93May 25, 2015 8:47 AM
May 25, 2015 10:50 AM
#7710
RocketsSnorlax said: http://myanimelist.net/anime/18465/Genshiken_Nidaime Official english title by NIS America is "Genshiken Second Generation" see http://www.nisamerica.com/genshiken-2nd-gen Please re-add "Genshiken Second Season" as synonymous as it is the title on Crunchyroll http://www.crunchyroll.com/genshiken-second-season (Sorry, I'm not a native speaker But US-Bluray is more official than Crunchyroll-Stream) |
May 25, 2015 11:23 PM
#7711
| Akarin (8062) Noted. I will make the changes in bulk in the near future. I normally do this when I have a chunk of spare time so that I can sit down and do major clean-ups altogether instead of just changing the titles. Manga DB requests have their own thread. rui93 (8063) I will escalate to a Database Administrator. Database Moderators cannot delete entries. RocketsSnorlax (8064) No worries. I probably should have checked where Genshiken Second Season was being used. |
May 25, 2015 11:42 PM
#7712
I know. I didn't ask to make any changes to manga, though. I asked to add synonyms to anime from manga entry. |
a8e96d06dMay 25, 2015 11:49 PM
May 26, 2015 12:17 AM
#7713
| Oops, I misread then. I will add them when I do the clean-ups. |
May 26, 2015 6:49 AM
#7714
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/5842 http://myanimelist.net/anime/10354 Move Eng. title to synonyms. I'm pretty sure it wasn't licensed. |
a8e96d06dMay 26, 2015 6:52 AM
May 26, 2015 8:39 PM
#7715
arsonal said: lanblade (8028) Done. Exceptions below. - I need to check with the team on the yaoi and yuri genres. - See below response to 8032 on High School DxD New OVA. - Yonhyakunijuu Renpai Girl's primary format is that of an advertisement special. The YouTube upload will be treated as an early preview the same way some OVAs are previewed in theatrical screenings. - The YouTube videos of Nekota no Koto ga Ki ni Natte Shikatanai. are from April, not March, which put them after Ribbon Festa. The descriptions indicate they are a "renewal" of the Ribbon Festa special, so they should be different. - More Info on Dallos will remain. - I will need to evaluate Robot Girls Z episode 0 myself at a later time. Please at least correct the AniDB link for High School DxD. I'm cool with waitin' on the 2nd ep. The Dallos more info is like a weird truncated version of what it's originally from AniDB Note: The four episodes of Dallos were spliced together to create a two hour movie, they were then cut down to 83 minutes to create this special. In addition to footage from the original OVA series, 50 extra shots were added. As its now, the first OVA is a half hour long, it literally couldn't have be spliced down to 83 min. Essentially what this More Info is saying was that there was a summary film which anyone would know by visiting the main anime's page and seeing the relation "Dallos Special" and its own entry. That's why I wanted it removed due to its redundancy. The Gakkou no Kaidan Recaps should be 2 eps. It doesn't really need the More Info section either. Can you please remove the duration for Nekota no Koto ga Ki ni Natte Shikatanai. then? Since nobody knows how long it is as it hasn't been uploaded to Ribon's youtube channel like all the other Festa anime after their events if it is two different entries. And a friendly reminder to push these for removal: http://myanimelist.net/anime/24973/Bokura_wa_Minna_Kawaisou_Specials http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=7550#msg38423446 http://myanimelist.net/anime/20557/11eyes_Picture_Drama http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=7700#msg38915981 (or was the decision changed? I don't understand the strike-out.) And waiting a decision for http://myanimelist.net/anime/13429/Sakasama_no_Patema:_Beginning_of_the_Day http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=7750#msg38955590 due to it using footage from the film with no original dialogue nor animation. And what's up with this? http://myanimelist.net/anime/30514/Nisekoimonogatari http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=7800#msg39055391 as it has no new content in respect to both anime it features. http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=30866&show=7200#msg37419727 I just went back to this entry and I saw it as "Finished Airing". Can it be reopened again like I previously asked b/c it's still airing, there are now 24 eps listed on the official site with the most recent being released last week. |
lanbladeMay 26, 2015 9:03 PM
May 26, 2015 11:56 PM
#7716
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/30745/Kyoukai_no_Kanata_Movie:_Ill_Be_Here_Special I think it came with this single too? Please add some info to that. I'm not sure if lanblade asked to change the type because it was released in this single or because it's a music video but I guess I'll ask anyway, a random music video (as in, doesn't feature a song from a CD/album that came along side it) that came bundled with the BD/DVD releases would still be considered a Special, right? Even if did feature a song that had a CD/album release but said CD/album didn't have the video/only way to get this video is buying this BD, it'd still fall under Special, right? Some entries might need their type changes if these aren't the case. And, if these are the case then Kyoukai no Kanata's entry might need its date changed to 22nd of March April alongside a title change? Probably for the best (I misread the date and thought it was March, still, the video that came with the BD, while exactly the same, is more of a PV than an actual release, since the date is a month apart instead of a couple days like I originally thought you could probably keep the current date but renaming the title (remove the Special) might still be for the best). |
Paulo27May 27, 2015 12:08 AM
May 27, 2015 4:12 AM
#7717
| Akarin (8068) Done. DelectaBit (8069) The database relations are correct. Unfortunately, the favorites list picks the anime entry with the oldest ID (223 for Dragon Ball versus 2222 for Dr. Slump: Arale-chan) as its default character relation. We are aware of this issue and would like to correct it, but we currently do not have a timeline for it. lanblade (8070) - I will check with Leknaat on Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou Specials and 11eyes Picture Drama. - I would also support the removal of Sakasama no Patema: Beginning of the Day but am more inclined toward keeping Nisekoimonogatari. Otherwise, done. Paulo27 (8071) You bring up a good point, and I will reverse my judgment. Minori Chihara's "Aitakatta Sora" only includes a music video of that song (in the artist regular edition), not of "Yakusoku no Kizuna", so this animated dance video was not released with a CD. Being a Blu-ray and DVD special content, I will recategorize this as a Special. |
May 27, 2015 8:41 AM
#7718
arsonal said: Just because ecchi elements exist, it does not make them ecchi anime as a genre. In that case I request removing ecchi from http://myanimelist.net/anime/18679/Kill_la_Kill Also I wish the same logic was used when mods accept comedy tags for anime. http://myanimelist.net/anime/24967/Ane_Kyun!:_Joshi_ga_Ie_ni_Kita! Synonym from manga: "A Woman Has Come to the House!" |
a8e96d06dMay 27, 2015 9:26 AM
May 27, 2015 10:00 AM
#7719
arsonal said: Paulo27 (8071) You bring up a good point, and I will reverse my judgment. Minori Chihara's "Aitakatta Sora" only includes a music video of that song (in the artist regular edition), not of "Yakusoku no Kizuna", so this animated dance video was not released with a CD. Being a Blu-ray and DVD special content, I will recategorize this as a Special. I only requested it be an MV because of a previous example http://myanimelist.net/anime/22539/One_More_Time_One_More_Chance it too was released on the BD of the film as described under its More Info section but was given the Music Video type by y'all mods. Music Videos have been released on BDs (Special), online (ONAs), on TV (Special again), as half-hour-long independent releases (OVA) so I thought that music videos are able to cross all "Type" boundaries and nestle into their unique type, that being "Music Video". Since their release formats widely vary. Otherwise there's no point for the Music Video type since they can literally all be shoved into another Type. Online music vids would be ONAs, music vids shown on MTV Japan would be one-shot Specials like all the other one-shot TV anime, things released on their own DVD solely would be OVA, and OVA as well for things included on a CD release like all those anime bundled with manga as the anime is just bundled with a CD instead in this case. @Nisekoimonogatari, Since it has no new footage of Nisekoi nor of the Monogatari franchise, would it then be proper to allow Okitegami Kyouko no Bibouroku into the DB (it was denied) since its footage is re-used in it too. But it was denied for not having enough new footage but that seems backwards considering Nisekoimonogatari has 0% new footage when all 3 anime are put together. That is if you eliminate all the still frames and Adobe After Effects which are presently in almost every anime PV, hence why PVs of regular anime aren't in the DB I assume even though those still frames are unique to the PV only for all those thousands of regular anime. |
May 27, 2015 12:49 PM
#7720
| I don't think we've to be that picky about it, it's only really this case where the video only came with the BDs of an already exisiting franchise, if it was released in a single or album then I think that one should take priority over the BD release as long as the time difference isn't too big (similar to the pre-air of episodes at the start of a season which are usually changed to match their TV airing date). Aside from that it should take priority as long as it follows the guidelines (complete song, professionally made, etc). As for One More Time, One More Chance, I too think it should be a Special, while the song was released by itself multiple times, unlike the Kyoukai no Kanata song which was part of the main show, the video itself is still exclusive to the BDs. This is just my opinion though, BD Special-type should outweight Music-type which should outweights everything else (meaning LN bonuses and TV specials would still be Music), there are other entries that should be specials following this logic, I'll post later though. I'd like to hear some sort of conclusion about this though, looking at how things have been mostly done so far the Kyoukai no Kanata entry should indeed be Music instead of Special, since it follows the Music guidelines. Either way, there are wrong entries, I think, http://myanimelist.net/anime/4158/Dore_Dore_no_Uta seems like it's a full song music video but is considering a Special because it came as a bonus in a DVD (like the Kyoukai no Kanata entry). |
Paulo27May 27, 2015 1:08 PM
May 27, 2015 12:57 PM
#7721
| Were my genre change requests intentionally ignored or will those be last? |
May 27, 2015 6:51 PM
#7722
| Akarin (8073) Done. lanblade & Paulo27 (8074, 8075) We're being too picky here. The intention of the Music genre is to document standalone music releases that are not already related to a work in the database. Normally, this means animated music videos in single and album releases of artists. This is the same reason used when I added Hana wa Saku into the database as a Special years ago, which is essentially all music but was a recurring TV broadcast. If One More Time, One More Chance is a indeed Blu-ray- and/or DVD-only bonus, then I would categorize that as a special as well. (I will assess this later.) Aside to lanblade: I spoke with Leknaat, and this is more or less in line with what we decided on Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou Specials and 11eyes Picture Drama after discussing with Kineta, and I think this applies to Nisekoimonogatari as well. The guidelines were designed to keep out fringe works that are not related to an existing entry in the database. With Kawaisou and 11eyes, they are really not that much different than many of the other Blu-ray and DVD specials in the database. Special content comes in all forms and sizes, and it's difficult to address them every time Japan gets creative, but we have an easier time keeping content in the database if it's related to something we already have. DuelGundam2099 (8076) Post 8061 will be marked as completed when all previous requests have been assessed. I appreciate your patience. |
May 27, 2015 8:44 PM
#7723
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/1256/Saint_Seiya:_Jashin_Eris Add synonym: "Saint Seiya The Movie: Evil Goddess Eris" http://myanimelist.net/anime/4472/Lucky%E2%98%86Star:_Original_na_Visual_to_Animation Add official site: http://www.lucky-ch.com/info/info_ova080728.html Also is it really necessary to replace OVA with "Original na Visual to Animation"? The correct date is 9/26/2008 (I submitted the change). And remove "Lucky☆Star OVA" from synonyms, according to guidelines. "Lucky Star OVA" is more than enough. http://myanimelist.net/anime/24175/Nozo_x_Kimi Change official site link to: http://www.shogakukan.co.jp/pr/anisun/nozokimi/index.html |
a8e96d06dMay 28, 2015 1:41 PM
May 28, 2015 3:45 AM
#7724
| Request: http://myanimelist.net/anime/356/Fate_stay_night http://myanimelist.net/anime/27821/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29_-_Prologue http://myanimelist.net/anime/22297/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29 http://myanimelist.net/anime/28701/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29_2nd_Season Fate/stay night is based on a VN that was originally an Eroge. The shounen tag is wrong for all those above listed series, since they are not based on source material with the shounen demographic. |
Grey-ZoneMay 28, 2015 4:04 AM
May 28, 2015 10:13 AM
#7725
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/30531/Gakuen_Handsome_The_Animation Add School - as its set in Gakuen (Academy) and either Shounen Ai or Yaoi Thanks! |
May 28, 2015 11:10 AM
#7726
Grey-Zone said: Request: http://myanimelist.net/anime/356/Fate_stay_night http://myanimelist.net/anime/27821/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29_-_Prologue http://myanimelist.net/anime/22297/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29 http://myanimelist.net/anime/28701/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29_2nd_Season Fate/stay night is based on a VN that was originally an Eroge. The shounen tag is wrong for all those above listed series, since they are not based on source material with the shounen demographic. That may be so, but compare them to the likes of Fate/Zero which is geared towards a seinen audience. In contrast they contain characteristics which are synonymous with shows aimed towards the shounen demographic. Besides, they don't contain any x-rated content. I don't think the fact that they are based on an eroge dictates that they aren't meant to appeal primarily to the shounen demographic. |
May 28, 2015 12:51 PM
#7727
| I have question... Diabolik Lovers OVA is from game Diabolik Lovers DARK FATE, so... this is ok to set cover from that game as cover for this OVA? |
May 28, 2015 1:29 PM
#7728
LittleStar said: I have question... Diabolik Lovers OVA is from game Diabolik Lovers DARK FATE, so... this is ok to set cover from that game as cover for this OVA? OVA DVD has a cover with the game Animate set. Kept searching for a higher resolution, this one could make for a default. |
May 28, 2015 3:02 PM
#7729
Amarantos said: That may be so, but compare them to the likes of Fate/Zero which is geared towards a seinen audience. In contrast they contain characteristics which are synonymous with shows aimed towards the shounen demographic. Besides, they don't contain any x-rated content. I don't think the fact that they are based on an eroge dictates that they aren't meant to appeal primarily to the shounen demographic. Not really. Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) are geared toward the same audience. The only difference is just that one is a tragedy and the other is not. Either you label both as "shounen" or you label neither as that. And no, "there are teenagers" and "there is a high-school in the setting" are not "characteristics which are synonymous with shows aimed towards the shounen demographic", if that's what you want to say. Aside from the "tragedy" and "there are teenagers" aspects, what are the aspects that make you think that Fate/Zero is "catered toward a more mature audience"? Aside from that it's also rated as R and airing at a midnight slot in Japanese TV... |
Grey-ZoneMay 28, 2015 3:06 PM
May 28, 2015 3:06 PM
#7730
Grey-Zone said: Fate/stay night is based on a VN that was originally an Eroge. The shounen tag is wrong for all those above listed series, since they are not based on source material with the shounen demographic. Moderator's answer from the previous page: opernlied said: Haven't gone through the requests yet, but I asked for some clarification regarding demographic tags, so I should explain them. Akarin, demographic tags are not exclusively inherited from manga adaptations; the thread you linked even shows this. They do take priority when the adaptation exists, but otherwise, other anime can still have a demographic tag applied to them. Similar to genre tags, there can be some judgment used to apply a tag to a given work. For example, the original anime series Precure, Pretty Rhythm, and the like fit the "Shoujo" tag down to a T, so there's no reason to remove an accurate classification when there's no explicit rule rule that says to. I think how I would word it is this: There's a distinction between genre and demographic tags, but they're still both used to classify a work. With that said, LNs/VNs can sometimes have a target demographic (ex: otome games), and a tag for an adaptation might be decided based on that. |
May 28, 2015 3:40 PM
#7731
Grey-Zone said: Not really. Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) are geared toward the same audience. The only difference is just that one is a tragedy and the other is not. Either you label both as "shounen" or you label neither as that. And no, "there are teenagers" and "there is a high-school in the setting" are not "characteristics which are synonymous with shows aimed towards the shounen demographic", if that's what you want to say. Aside from the "tragedy" and "there are teenagers" aspects, what are the aspects that make you think that Fate/Zero is "catered toward a more mature audience"? The fact that "there are teenagers" or that "there is a high-school in the setting" has nothing to do with it. It's the atmosphere of the show that does in my opinion, and the characters' personalities. Look at Taiga's personality for example. Or how Rin is just a complete tsundere. Also there's Shirou, running into battles he's no chance of winning, getting his ass kicked then ending up fine. It's different in tone to Fate/Zero, it's more immature. |
removed-userMay 28, 2015 3:49 PM
May 28, 2015 3:55 PM
#7732
Grey-Zone said: We've a lot of anime to fix then! Aside from that it's also rated as R and airing at a midnight slot in Japanese TV... Basically all of them. |
May 28, 2015 4:57 PM
#7733
Amarantos said: Grey-Zone said: Not really. Fate/Zero and Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works (TV) are geared toward the same audience. The only difference is just that one is a tragedy and the other is not. Either you label both as "shounen" or you label neither as that. And no, "there are teenagers" and "there is a high-school in the setting" are not "characteristics which are synonymous with shows aimed towards the shounen demographic", if that's what you want to say. Aside from the "tragedy" and "there are teenagers" aspects, what are the aspects that make you think that Fate/Zero is "catered toward a more mature audience"? The fact that "there are teenagers" or that "there is a high-school in the setting" has nothing to do with it. It's the atmosphere of the show that does in my opinion, and the characters' personalities. Look at Taiga's personality for example. Or how Rin is just a complete tsundere. Also there's Shirou, running into battles he's no chance of winning, getting his ass kicked then ending up fine. It's different in tone to Fate/Zero, it's more immature. FZ is about children wearing adult masks. Umm, yeah, she's a tsundere. A tsundere with character, a good backstory, a glorious sadistic side, and who doesn't start abusing the MC and calling him an idiot. By using Taiga's personality as an excuse, you've just implied that real, clueless people would not have a fun cheery personality. Have you even watched episode 1? He wants to be a hero of justice. It's all he needs to jump into battes. And he only jumped into one battle in UBW. Personalities have nothing to do with a mature show. Pls bring a better argument. ~.~ |
The sun is a deadly laser |
May 28, 2015 5:03 PM
#7734
Amarantos said: The fact that "there are teenagers" or that "there is a high-school in the setting" has nothing to do with it. It's the atmosphere of the show that does in my opinion, and the characters' personalities. Look at Taiga's personality for example. Or how Rin is just a complete tsundere. Also there's Shirou, running into battles he's no chance of winning, getting his ass kicked then ending up fine. It's different in tone to Fate/Zero, it's more immature. Please go ahead then and enlighten me what aspects of F/Z require maturity, which F/sn supposedly doesn't have? |
May 28, 2015 5:15 PM
#7735
| F/Z has a main character using guns, FSN has one using brooms. Who are we kidding here? Fate/Stay Night is as shounen as you can get. All it needs is a swimsuit episode. |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
May 28, 2015 5:21 PM
#7736
Forgetfulness said: Amarantos said: You know Fate/Zero was made for people who are supposed to have already went through Fate/stay night, right? That basically means they have the same audience / demographicGrey-Zone said: Request: http://myanimelist.net/anime/356/Fate_stay_night http://myanimelist.net/anime/27821/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29_-_Prologue http://myanimelist.net/anime/22297/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29 http://myanimelist.net/anime/28701/Fate_stay_night:_Unlimited_Blade_Works_%28TV%29_2nd_Season Fate/stay night is based on a VN that was originally an Eroge. The shounen tag is wrong for all those above listed series, since they are not based on source material with the shounen demographic. That may be so, but compare them to the likes of Fate/Zero which is geared towards a seinen audience. In contrast they contain characteristics which are synonymous with shows aimed towards the shounen demographic. Besides, they don't contain any x-rated content. I don't think the fact that they are based on an eroge dictates that they aren't meant to appeal primarily to the shounen demographic. Also, the content isn't really that important for a show's demographic. You know what demographic a show about cute girls doing cute things like in K-On is for? It's a seinen. So wrap your mind around that FZ was made for the same people who read the VN in 2004 - when all the fans were awkward teenagers looking for fap material. The FZ anime was made in 2012 when fans grew up. It's aimed at the same people, but is actually for adults. |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
May 28, 2015 5:30 PM
#7737
Akarin said: Moderator's answer from the previous page: opernlied said: Haven't gone through the requests yet, but I asked for some clarification regarding demographic tags, so I should explain them. Akarin, demographic tags are not exclusively inherited from manga adaptations; the thread you linked even shows this. They do take priority when the adaptation exists, but otherwise, other anime can still have a demographic tag applied to them. Similar to genre tags, there can be some judgment used to apply a tag to a given work. For example, the original anime series Precure, Pretty Rhythm, and the like fit the "Shoujo" tag down to a T, so there's no reason to remove an accurate classification when there's no explicit rule rule that says to. I think how I would word it is this: There's a distinction between genre and demographic tags, but they're still both used to classify a work. With that said, LNs/VNs can sometimes have a target demographic (ex: otome games), and a tag for an adaptation might be decided based on that. I am quite sure though, that the original F/sn VN is not targeted at a "shounen audience". |
May 28, 2015 8:26 PM
#7738
| Akarin (8078) Original na Visual to Animation is the furigana reading of OVA. We prefer to have the full title. Other changes are done with some adjustments. Grey-Zone, Amarantos, Akarin, Paulo27, mira-nyan, TrueKirei, Forgetfulness (8079, 8081, 8084, 8085-94) Each viewer is entitled to his or her own opinion, but please remain on topic. Fate/stay night has precedence in being in the shounen demographic because the manga adaptation is serialized in Shounen Ace. On the other hand, Fate/Zero's manga adaptation is serialized in Young Ace, which is a seinen magazine. However, the Fate/Zero novels preceded the manga, and as novels are not assigned demographics, the anime is also not assigned the seinen demographic. Mimerio (8080) Not done. You are welcome to make another request after the work is released so that we can reassess. LittleStar & Shadow-Chan (8082, 8083) Done. We prefer the key visual of the OVA over the game. |
arsonalMay 28, 2015 8:30 PM
May 28, 2015 8:32 PM
#7739
arsonal said: Grey-Zone, Amarantos, Akarin, Paulo27, mira-nyan, TrueKirei, Forgetfulness (8079, 8081, 8084, 8085-94) Each viewer is entitled to his or her own opinion, but please remain on topic. Fate/stay night has precedence in being in the shounen demographic because the manga adaptation is serialized in Shounen Ace. On the other hand, Fate/Zero's manga adaptation is serialized in Young Ace, which is a seinen magazine. However, the Fate/Zero novels preceded the manga, and as novels are not assigned demographics, the anime is also not assigned the seinen demographic. But now there is a F/sn manga that is being published in a seinen magazine... http://myanimelist.net/manga/88110/Fate_stay_night:_Heavens_Feel Both mangas have the same source material, which is the VN. Same for every single Fate/stay night anime, so just making a seperate case for Heaven's Feel wouldn't make much sense, since it would mean to seperate anime adaptions from the same source material into seperate demographics just due to the manga adaptions that have no real direct relation to the animes (aside from the new Heaven's Feel manga, which uses aspects first introduced by the currently airing Fate/stay night Unlimited Blade Works, like the new clothes of the characters). Due to this wouldn't it be best to remove the demographic tags completely for the F/sn animes to prevent confusion from this? |
Grey-ZoneMay 28, 2015 8:49 PM
May 28, 2015 8:38 PM
#7740
| This might seem as a big or shocking request because the Dementia tag never gets changed but wouldnt it make sense for http://myanimelist.net/anime/323/Mousou_Dairinin to be labeled as such? |
May 28, 2015 9:16 PM
#7741
| Grey-Zone (8096) We can definitely re-evaluate again when Heaven's Feel airs. That is also the reason the anime entry is not assigned a demographic, as we don't want to speculate on genres we don't know it will have yet. Moodie (8097) Please see the genre explanation for Dementia. It should in no way describe the state of mind that is the subject of the anime. |
May 28, 2015 11:22 PM
#7742
a8e96d06dMay 30, 2015 11:21 PM
May 29, 2015 4:30 AM
#7743
arsonal said: Grey-Zone, Amarantos, Akarin, Paulo27, mira-nyan, TrueKirei, Forgetfulness (8079, 8081, 8084, 8085-94) Each viewer is entitled to his or her own opinion, but please remain on topic. Fate/stay night has precedence in being in the shounen demographic because the manga adaptation is serialized in Shounen Ace. On the other hand, Fate/Zero's manga adaptation is serialized in Young Ace, which is a seinen magazine. However, the Fate/Zero novels preceded the manga, and as novels are not assigned demographics, the anime is also not assigned the seinen demographic. The last sentence doesn't make any sense. Fate/stay night, long before the manga was serialized, was a Visual Novel, so its anime adaptations shouldn't get assigned to any demographic, either. |
May 29, 2015 4:32 AM
#7744
arsonal said: Grey-Zone, Amarantos, Akarin, Paulo27, mira-nyan, TrueKirei, Forgetfulness (8079, 8081, 8084, 8085-94) Each viewer is entitled to his or her own opinion, but please remain on topic. Fate/stay night has precedence in being in the shounen demographic because the manga adaptation is serialized in Shounen Ace. On the other hand, Fate/Zero's smanga adaptation is serialized in Young Ace, which is a seinen magazine. However, the Fate/Zero novels preceded the manga, and as novels are not assigned demographics, the anime is also not assigned the seinen demographic. Isn't that something of a self defeating argument since the manga for F/SN wasn't its first iteration either and the anime aren't adapting the manga anyway? |
InsertanamehereMay 29, 2015 4:43 AM
May 29, 2015 4:38 PM
#7745
Grey-Zone said: arsonal said: Grey-Zone, Amarantos, Akarin, Paulo27, mira-nyan, TrueKirei, Forgetfulness (8079, 8081, 8084, 8085-94) Each viewer is entitled to his or her own opinion, but please remain on topic. Fate/stay night has precedence in being in the shounen demographic because the manga adaptation is serialized in Shounen Ace. On the other hand, Fate/Zero's manga adaptation is serialized in Young Ace, which is a seinen magazine. However, the Fate/Zero novels preceded the manga, and as novels are not assigned demographics, the anime is also not assigned the seinen demographic. The manga adaptation was made after the anime, which was preceded by the -Visual Novel. Meaning you are basing this on an adaptation of an adaptation. Also the FSN manga is based on the fate route, not the UBW route iirc. That means you are using an incorrect manga adaptation to begin with. As of now there is now there is no Unlimited Blade Works manga adaptation, meaning the only thing preceding it is the Visual Novel. Adaptations so far Fate Route: Visual Novel - 2006 Anime - Fate Manga UBW Route: Visual Novel - 2014 UBW Anime Heaven's Feel: Visual Novel - 2015 Manga - Unreleased Movies. Also the Heaven's Feel Manga has already been released and it has a seinen tag. Given that all three routes are aimed at the same demographic, and the original VN is aimed at people 18 and over, there is no reason why this should be considered Shounen. Either it doesn't get tagged, or it get's the seinen tag with the rest of the series. Although I believe not assigning it a demographic would be best. Leaving the tag will only confuse people. |
May 29, 2015 8:38 PM
#7746
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/29589/Denpa_Kyoushi_(TV) Looks like it'll be 24 episodes since the BDs are 3 episodes each, and there are 8 of them: http://www.aniplex.co.jp/denpa/bd-dvd/ |
May 30, 2015 3:16 AM
#7747
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/7304 this is a recap of the main searies http://myanimelist.net/anime/235 (including some scenes of movies too), relation to Movie 8 could be changed to "others" (intended as promo for movie 8 it also includes some scenes from the first part of movie 8) |
May 30, 2015 9:46 AM
#7748
arsonal said: When multiple people are credited as a collective, we credit the collective. We do this for seiyuu units as well. Which title is incorrect? The main title? It's called Ana. just transcribe the Japanese title to use as main title. http://myanimelist.net/anime/30407/ http://myanimelist.net/anime/23059/ I don't think the hyphen belongs there, should just be a space. Shinsatsu Shitsu. |
JacquelinMay 30, 2015 1:46 PM
May 30, 2015 10:24 AM
#7749
May 30, 2015 11:08 AM
#7750
| http://myanimelist.net/anime/27787/Nisekoi: Add Magic Genre due to episode 8 being based on the magical girl spin-off. |
| added the fourth most popular anime onto this site |
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