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| Definitely one of my faves this season. Soooooo happy for Endo & Kobayashi, and Sieg & Liese |
Why do we have to live in such a cruel world?  |
| Meh. Corny romance with no feeling of actual stakes. The final 2 episodes took a silly premise into being an outright absurd one. 5/10, feeling generous. |
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| The amount of drama in this episode was so unnecessary haha. I didn't think I'd have so much fun watching this anime!!! It was a bit weird sometimes but had the perfect amount of not trying to be too serious and that's why it works? It was a really chill show, the characters were likeable and the whole vbe of the show was wholesome. Despite all the drama, the ending was satisfying and I'm happy that there is more shoujo this season. |
| A great ending to the series, Liese as a plushie is too damn cute. I would have liked a little more explanation as to how Lirenna could just bring Endo and Kobayashi to the wedding but I'm not too bothered, it's probably just a temporary projection sort of thing. |
| Truly the happiest ending to end all happy endings. I am so happy that Endo and Kobayashi actually met Liese-tan and the rest for real. I wish we got something more with Endo and Kobayashi to show their new relationship, but it's alright, just seeing them in Liese's world was already a treat. This was a really nice short, but sweet show and a pretty unique take on the otome genre. Some OVA epilogues would be even nicer though. 7.5/10 |
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| I'm glad I started watching this anime when I was bored, it was a solid show, Kuon was really bad tho |
AkeZZZ said: "The best happy ending beyond the best!" Couldn't agree more!! This is the cutest Lise-tan  Absolutely, I couldn't agree more!! A wonderful happy end |
| [font="Roboto, Arial, Helvetica, Verdana, \"PT Sans Caption\", sans-serif"]THE BEST HAPPY ENDING BEYOND THE BEST!!![/font] it all packet and end nicely... when was it the last time i find one anime series packed this neat and beatifully in 12 episodes. ps. its funny how all Endo and Kobayashi whole confession and f;uf happen right there xD LOL. Kuon stil 3rd wheeling even in another world. he become mosquito. |
| i wish and dream for the Future where everyone i care can Smile happily from their heart. But no matter where i look. how ever i see... there s no me. im not there. Just like that. |
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| And so this situation finally ends. Kuon gets defeated by the power of words lmao 5/10 I think the show would have been better without the melodramatic heavy drama in the final episodes |
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| To think there are still authors who have the guts to write a two volume story and put their heart into it to the point that it became a million times better than all the others with 10+ volumes that were never made with an ending in mind anyways! What can I say this is the perfect otome game anime in my eyes and I am not even a fan of the genre. 10/10 I'll really miss Liese tan's shenanigans ;( |
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| My anime of the season ♥ ♥ ♥ |
| Lots of animation errors in this final episode that I hope they fix in the BD/DVD releases. Like in one shot of them running, Endo-kun has his backpack reversed on his left shoulder instead of his right, or Kobayashi-san in one frame before reaching the greenhouse and another scene after Kuon plants the idea of her being jealous of her sister, where there's a panning shot going up--she's missing her black leggings. Looks like Lirenna's guess of Kobayashi-san having a similar disposition to Liese's personality was right on the money, with their insecurities. Explains a bit why she loves Liese-tan so much, and the parallels of the relationships of the pair of couples. But then again, who doesn't have some darkness in their hearts at one point or another. Liese possessing the keychain doll was so freaking cute! I want one. If they made merch of that, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Looks easy enough to make out of felt sheets, so maybe I'll make one myself, just like Kobayashi-san did. Lirenna honestly deserves better, sine he started all of this. But since they were literally one entity split into two, I guess he's still another half of her, and vice versa, with all their faults. I suppose they deserve each other in that regard. It was fairly predictable and cliche, but that's what made it charming and likeable, because that's exactly what I came for. The most surprising thing about the whole series was the identity of the Witch of Yore though, being the goddess herself. I also would have liked to see more of Liese's short-haired tomboy mother as she barely had any screen time. Nonetheless, I loved this series overall. One final thing I wish they did, was have Liese throw the bouquet...imagine how awesome would it be, if Kobayashi-san caught it, and then looked over to Endo-kun. I lied, one more final thing/nitpick: how did they take a photo? Did one of them bring over an instant camera and pocket printer while they were teleported over? Screw it, it was magic..magic photography. |
| Aww. What a great ending. The way Kobayashi and Endo supported Lieselotte, she returned in the end and reciprocated the gesture! Kuon may have started the events but thankfully they ended in the most happy way they could of. I'm very satisfied and im glad everyone got their happy ending. |
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| Not a bad finale. I liked how there were multiple main characters and not just one main female mc, and they all essentially got some sort of a good ending. This is much better than the convoluted mess that is the Bakarina series. |
| Hmm. I mean it wasn't terrible, but man I can't say I was fond of this ending. A little too happy of an ending if ya ask me. But like it's more like is this actually what I want to see? It could be, but I guess I'd just have rather it came about another way maybe, because like dang it was just so... everything was as expected. I don't really know what to say... I'm also not really one for tsundere characters because when you deal with this type of person in real life they're just kinda... awful. Like, there's no excuse for them to treat you the way they do besides poor social skills and I don't have time to sit there are figure out their true feelings as they throw my belongings in the dirt because I wouldn't kiss them or whatever. Like that stuff really hurts. However, I was glad that Endou and Kobayashi were there to translate Lisolette's feelings/people started to understand what she really meant or else I probably would have become super annoyed to be honest. As for Endou and Kobayashi themselves, I dunno but their relationship turned out to be kinda blah. Like dang. They were kinda building up to it to where I was fine with it, but then this episode kinda just smashed them together like yo, you were doing so well to take it slow and then you're going to throw this in? Ouch. Overall, it was okay I guess. |
| Decent anime. Loved everything about Lieselotte, especially her interactions with Sieg. Besides that, the anime was kinda meh. The plot was absurd as expected of an otome game story with its only purpose being to create a stage for character interactions. Most characters belong to some typical trope and didn't leave any lasting impressions. Not to mention the ridiculous plot-line towards the end with the so called "gods" of the world being an absolute joke that's more immature than some elementary school brats. Come to think of it, I probably haven't watched an anime that has a good mature god while there are numerous ones glorifying demon lords and monsters. I wonder what sort of entities influence the creators to write these sort of fictional works... Whoops, I got a bit off topic there. What I was trying to say is that, the entire story was absolute garbage but worth watching just coz Liese-tan is cute af. |
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| omfg, i didn't expect Liese to be the one saving them lol that handmade doll sure came in handy it was really hard to watch when the game ended, but thankfully, the goddess had her own trick and brought the 2 inside the game, naisu nice to see all the charas one last time at the wedding my favorite seasonal since episode 1, easy 10/10 |
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winddevil1 said: omfg, i didn't expect Liese to be the one saving them lol that handmade doll sure came in handy it was really hard to watch when the game ended, but thankfully, the goddess had her own trick and brought the 2 inside the game, naisu nice to see all the charas one last time at the wedding my favorite seasonal since episode 1, easy 10/10 It's true, simple things can go a long way. "the best happy ending outweighs the best" |
| I finally finished this wonderful series!!! CONGRATULATIONS!!! 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 |
| It's not that I dislike this genre but... to add unnecessary fan services to/in/for heroines and ultimately destroys her character and personality; their purity tarnished because of it, is the only thing I hope to not happen to them. For that sole purity is my fan service. |
| Very good concept with good execution. I never encounter anything like this one before. 9/10 enjoyement because of fixed ending. They reach their goal from the episode 1 |
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| Holy shit that is one of the best and most satisfying endings to an anime I've ever seen! I've just been tearing up for the last 5 minutes until the end as everything was so beautiful. It just all came together so well. A very conclusive ending so its a shame theres not room for more but as they say, less is more. They told a solid story and ended it beautifully. I'm so glad I came back to this series to finish it. Definitely didnt expect to get so emotional over the ending. Havent happy cried like this in a long while.  |
| Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| Nice happy end. While they should've omitted the whole Kuon part of the story as that was just bad, the rest was quite the enjoyable otome game villainess story with its unique twist of the mc's acting as Wingmen gods instead of being isekaied. |
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| They wrapped it up quite nicely. I had put the series on hold around halfway, as there were other things that felt like more deserving of my spare time, but the ending was good, with some unexpected twists. Liselotte helping them out in the real world was a nice find, and Endo and Kobayashi being able to attend the wedding was a clever idea too, blending the world of the game and reality. In one of the other episode discussion threads, someone called this series "surprisingly good" which seems fitting. Apart from the Kuon plot feeling a bit forced/rough, and the solution for it to have him sealed away, hoping he will become a better man, or in this case, god, didn't resonate that much with me. But overal, glad I didn't drop this series. |
| No flood, huh? It's still a fun twist over the "original" creation story, tho. Tsundere kinda loses its cuteness if you just outright spells out its feeling, but the overall work of script, animation, voice kinda makes up for it to me. Some parts I watched clearly a quick-work to avoid lack of time to animate. But in overall it's still clean enough to be a presentable watch. They also keep a nice note that there's still cheap otome games element (such as "ret-conn based on routes chose") as a reminder that VN is a premise. Also ironically Lieselotte is cuter as a doll lol |
| Feels so good! The buildup is so great the character development for MC great! The ending is so great one of the best endings! So glad I decided to watch this not disappointed! |
| C6R5 Raiden |
| um... Endo: "Kuon, why did he take Chiyo?" ... I think Endo's brain broke... the Goddess literally just told them the reason like a couple of minutes ago right after big sis got kidnapped... LOL . LOL... this Lirenna goddess is kinda useless huh... (another useless Goddess added to the list of useless Goddess) Liese is literally stronger than the Goddess... she broke through the barrier that the Goddess couldn't. Also... while Kobayashi's dark heart is like Kuon and bad. But technically if Kobayashi wasn't dark, they wouldn't have been able to connect to Liese's world. So I guess it was good being dark? huh... lol . BTW, that walking talking Liese keychain doll is so cute. Watching Liese-doll scolding at everyone was so funny. LOL @ the Angy face. . But I guess the Goddess wasn't purely useless, as she conjured a spell that brought Endo and Kobayashi into Liese's world for Liese and Sieg's wedding. LOL @ Bel "maybe we could also..." and Fiene "lets wait a bit" HAHAHA, Dude got rejected. . BTW... assuming from the Goddess's story... if Liese's world was the original that Lirenna and Kuon created and they made Human. But Kuon reincarnated into the other world (our Earth) that he created... And Kuon is grabbed back into Liese's world... doesn't that mean Earth... doesn't have a God anymore? huh... or is Lirenna the Goddess of both worlds now? hmm... . The series started out as Isekai, but if both world belongs to the same Goddess... does it still count as Isekai? Cause now it's going into "Bleach" territory where Earth and Soul Society is technically on the same world (like 2 sides of the same coin). Where 50% of fans consider it Isekai, while the other 50% says it's not Isekai (such as the "coin") . Since a"Full Isekai" would be like 2 different coins. |
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| Nothing Written Here But Us Anime Bunnies *boing boing boing* |
| I just love the concept of this show... Would love to see more of Kobayashi and Endo moments. |
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| The best happy ending beyond the best! I'm glad that I gave a chance to watch this anime. I thought it would be some boring isekai, but it goes way beyond my expectations. I guess this anime is underrated. The plot, characters, all of it, are good. 8/10 from me <3 |
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| That was a pretty happy ending. Glad everything was resolved and they even got to meet face to face with everyone. Overall, didn't enjoy it at all, the commentary killed it completely for me. They build up a mood for something and then out of nowhere we get a "Wow! What a development! blah blah blah" from Endou and Kobayashi which completely ruins it. And then they kept explaining every little thing to the characters and telling them what to do on top of that, really made the game characters look dumb. |
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| Ahhh i'm a simple man and my soul is healed. I can endure more 1 day or 2. |
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| I came for Endou and Kobayashi and even after all that has happened, I think they're still my favorite couple. Mutual pining is adorable and solving that tension hits even harder!! A very interesting show that ended up running a lot deeper than its initial premise! It's always a risk to be holding so many strings in one hand, but even though the execution visibly faltered in many places, I enjoyed this show simply for the sheer ambitiousness it had the courage to showcase by exploring a complex concept in its climax. And even though it was kind of a cherry on top of all the deus ex machina moments in this episode, I'm still glad Endou and Kobayashi got to reunite with everybody. Seeing isekai characters physically meet their fictional favorites always resonates with me. ｡ﾟ(TヮT)ﾟ｡ |
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| this was so stupid :DD the final fight consisted of a love confession and then they verbally bullied the villain until he lost :D and i love how kuon was just cast aside for like 10 minutes as the two mc's talked and liese took control of that doll of all things :D kobayashi even forgot about her own sister |
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| damn sweeeeeeeet |
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