| reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| I just laugh at them an d there is no hate |
| honestly i just feel neutral some people just don't want to watch every single show that gets shitted out every season and just want to rewatch the stuff they already know or watch whats being hyped up by their fellow casuals, nothing wrong with that the only peeps i hate from that community are the peeps who constantly put down others for not liking the same stuff like jeez grow up you way too sensitive manchild who has no personality so he uses his interest in these things as his entire being and when someone offends it you get offended |
| Atleast i enjoy they enjoy what i watch they watch :-P Not like those morons who force themselves to watch somethin unpopular and high rated only to brag bout their tastes and look down others. Like seriously?! If this is how they enjoy this medium then the only thing i can do is pity them. But i do agree that screaming bout ur favorite anime everywhere is kind of annoying. If a person asks u bout ur favorites then tell him otherwise shut up. No one wants to know what u like or hate. |
silent_knight98Sep 23, 2018 3:52 AM
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| I am neutral towards strangers. The second they show hostility, ignore is best. |
| Y'all still use the word "normies"... Wow. I see why people dislike some of you. Let's stop with the edginess and let people enjoy what they want, watching certain animes doesn't make you oh so different. |
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| Most of my friends are "normies" some of them look down on anything anime but still after they had their laugh respect what I like. While some of them don't really care about what I like. They even watch some shows with me! But I don't dislike them, unless they are those people who disrespect my love for the medium, those are just dicks. |
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| I don't mind it as much anymore. The only reason I hated them, was because I couldn't talk about all the good shows I had found and watched. If I tried to talk about it, they'd ignore me because they didn't know anything about it. They would then proceed to talk about Black Butler, OHSHC, Fairy Tail, or Dragon Ball. I admit that I like those anime to a certain extent, but having watched a lot of anime, I wanted to talk about more. It doesn't really help that this was/is in Middle school/High school. So do I dislike them? Only sometimes. |
| ˚₊‧꒰ა ♱ ໒꒱ ‧₊˚ |
| i dont really care if they are just ignorant and they know. The thing i absolutely fcking hate is when they think they have seen so much and kbow so much when they literally have seen SAO, SNK, Tokyo ghoul, Naruto and Re Zero |
| About as much as I dislike people in general, I guess? |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
Somali_Strawhat said: AstZero said: Yeah elitists do act the same because that's what defines them as elitists. The attitude not the shows you watch. PS: You're not an elitist. ? Elitists are defined by acting the same as all other elitists who are defined by acting the same as all other elitists who are defined by...thats what a recursive definition is. If all elitists are defined by acting like each other then literally nothing defines them other than being a hive mind of thought. Which is a shit argument with no backing to validate your claim. And I'm not an elitist because ,what, you don't think so? What is in an elitist attitude that isn't informed by the shows they watched? They're elitists because they are willing to point out opinions about what makes one show great, and another show shit and value their method of curation. I do the same, but usually with friends I know have thicker skin and more informed opinions since the internet is filled with crybabies and shit posting human land mines. Friends I know can form a coherent if at times offensive argument that I respect and challenge me to defend why I enjoy a series without resorting to pandering perspectives like, "Why can't I enjoy it just because its fun?" without a clear understanding as to what made it fun in the first place. Because why waste my time with someone who's metrics for judging anime are so incompatible with mine as to cause me a migraine thinking about how they went about giving a series the score that they did?  For the sake of preventing thread derailment this is my last reply on this topic. Elitists are defined by their attitude. And the attitude they usually show is the same or very similar to other people that proclaim themselves or are proclaimed as elitists. I've spelled it out for you. There are no elitist shows there are only elitist people. Do you really know why they're frowned upon? It's not because they have an opinion and are willing to put it out there for others to see and argue about it.(everybody has the will to put their opinion out there and not always defend it but sometimes) If you haven't noticed people tend to argue a lot on MAL regarding all types of opinions... The thing with you people(you included since you're so hellbent on it) is your constant portrayal of condescension and outright arrogance thinking that you're above somebody else and in fact trying to lord your opinion over somebody. You believe your opinion is worth more cause it's you who's saying it. Rarely have i seen an elitist present their opinion as nothing less of a fact. Funnily enough most of the time they're not even willing to argue about their show and just resort to the MAL classical ad hominem and dismiss your opinion based on what you watch. It literally boils down to "You watched X anime. You have shit taste, therefore your opinion on my Y anime is invalid." Offensive arguments(though i'm 100% sure can be avoided because i would imagine it comes down to the wording of it) are not part of this problem. Nobody here is asking anybody(me especially) to bend to pandering perspectives of "Shutting your brain off and enjoying it", cause telling people how and what to enjoy is stupid in itself. |
AstZeroSep 23, 2018 8:56 AM
| The beauty of humans is that they say one thing then do another, but at the same time that can also be their ugliest side. |
Parantica said: Y'all still use the word "normies"... Wow. I see why people dislike some of you. Let's stop with the edginess and let people enjoy what they want, watching certain animes doesn't make you oh so different. I see your BTS signature, fam! Also; Guess I'm kinda elitist...? Indifferent towards casuals. And I LIVE for BnHA. Best battle shounen since 2010s. Nobody @ me! |
norei said: I am deeply amused by the way people are legit discussing feeling hatred toward individuals whom choose to not branch out outside the, I suppose, popular/mainstream(?) anime (there are less pathetic ways to waste your time by the way). Personally I am not an anime fan but I do enjoy and love to watch those whom I grew up with and discuss about them, to name them: One Piece, Fullmetal Alchemist, Dragon Ball, Gintama, etc. (might add something else), that's it for now. That said, I refuse to watch anything else, specially that is not similar to those listed above, I lack the will and the time to sit the whole day behind a screen watching anime, I prefer nourishing my active lifestyle as far as i'm concerned. I don't care what someone, either be a casual anime fan, an otaku, a weeb or self proclaimed elitist whos life revolves around anime has to say about it, it is not that deep, they are cartoons, the same is true for anything fandom-related, be it TV series, movies, music, sports and any other possible form of entertainment, people have priorities, not everyone has the time to watch as many anime as possible and actively participate in discussions of said anime, sepcially for the mere reason to brag on how much they know, that is simply laughable. I watch the few, selected anime I grew up with cause nostalgia, but I have other and better things to do than waste time branching out on anime I have no interest nor care in the slightest in the first place and actually more dislike, specially for the otaku/weeb community, there is really nothing to brag about, watch, enjoy and mind your own businesses, fandoms being toxic per se aside, individuals who put so much dedication onto trivial matters to the point of developing toxic behaviors such as hatred and mocking those who are not as dedicated as ignorant, might want to take a step back and actually branch out on their daily activities. Last but least, nobody cares about your dry ass opinion so go moisturise your skin. Sorry to ask but are you color blind? Otherwise not sure how one gets such a black and white view of things. There's a middle ground between never watching anything new and "sitting the whole day behind a screen watching anime" or " watching as many anime as possible". I'd even say 95% of the community fall into this middle ground. But well, this kinda smells like an alt, being just an empty account created today with no other posts. |
| I probably regret this post by now. |
| Don't know what that means , i'm just here to make my first post. |
| I'm kind of repulsed by people *too* strongly adverse to things deemed socially unacceptable or weird or "cringey," honestly, and that's usually the type of thing I associate normie with. Basically living a life of being unable to emancipate themselves from the judgement of others to any degree. Not really cutting free, just living things on the basis of what others would approve of or find satisfactory. It just seems so miserable to me that I'd rather not be around people who live like that. It isn't a matter of whether or not they want to do weird things, I'm sure plenty genuinely don't and that's totally cool with me so long as it's being treated as a matter of self-determination on their part, it only becomes disgusting to me when it becomes defaulting to social acceptance as the construct of their identity and choices. Everything that's right is deemed by other people and how they will respond to it. Part of me finds it incredibly annoying, and part of me just think it seems like a miserable way to live - and being around as much just sends bad vibes to me, man. Slaves to convention in all aspects of their lives and they expect everybody to join them in their pit. There's always times and places to take into consideration - I wouldn't start babbling about how much I'm in love Run or my Amy Rose porn collection at work or anything, it would be both incredibly inconsiderate and stupid, and there's a difference between being shameless and being a thoughtless asshole - but simply doing shit like that on my own accord shouldn't be an issue, and when it becomes the issue is when I'm probably going to start telling them to just fuck off or something. And I feel like a legit normie is the type of person to take it beyond understanding time and place, living and letting live being beyond their grasp. That's pretty much when I start not wanting much to do with a "normie," but if they're capable of as much then hell, man, let them do whatever the fuck they so please. S'all good. Same goes in the inverse, though, I do not like people who get onto others for having the audacity to have "normie" interests, self-determination or not. That isn't any better than the type of normie I dislike immensely, it's still running against same kind of base value. Live and let live, man. It's unfortunate how many people don't just offer that sort base understanding to each other enough. |
ManabanSep 23, 2018 6:26 AM
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| i dislike normies who hate on shounen fag normies and think they ascended even tho they also havent gone beyond shit like SSY and clannad |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
| Not at all If anything they make me feel like a "seasoned" watcher. |
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norei said: Care to enlighten me on any possible rule which state a particular amount of days shall pass once an account is created before an user can post? Created today, I post today any issue? If yes, believe what you want got no will to argue on that, feel free to report. Nah man, we get alts who come in here and act like this to kick up shit all of the time, it makes sense to be a bit distrusting towards another avatarless no-post coming in here and just being like "hurrr I'm not into anime go outside and moisturize your skin." You read like basic alt spam on these forums so much that I'm probably giving you stupid amounts of benefit of the doubt by talking to you as if you're not, because I do kind of have that feeling here as well, honestly. I'll risk biting on it because I just don't mind, honestly, but if you're not then getting defensive like this probably isn't the best way to convince people of anything. norei said: Back to the arguement, I strongly disagree on the 95% of the community falling onto said middle ground but that aside I am not talking about those who fall into such ground, I am clearly speaking of the individuals who are hostile and toxic toward those not as dedicated, thread title and key word: - How Much Do You → Dislike ← Normies -, if such description do not fit you then do move along. I mean, yeah man, that shit isn't cool, but it isn't much better than the type person who comes in here and just begins rattling off about how "normie" they are and how weird and cringey everybody else :P Labels like this, man, they're just not that important. Just do you, if somebody acts like an asshole about stuff then call them an asshole, but it kind of can be a two-way street, and I'd be lying to you if I said I thought that the "dedicated" side was as prominent or vocal as the "normie" side of this sort of needless shiftest. And honestly, I would rather take somebody who's much too assertive at trying to encourage people to look deeper into stuff, than somebody who just runs around putting down people for being too passionate like a lot of the other side tends to do as well. |
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| I take it another way: the problem is not "them", but myself. My friends only see anime from the "mainstream", and talk to each other about them. As I do not see most of the anime they see, I have no one to talk to. But the problem is mine. Sometimes I miss having someone to talk to about an anime I'm seeing ... There are discussion boards there for this too, so fuck it. |
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| You really need to get a life if something trivial like that offended or irritated you. |
| It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person. |
| @norei You're treating it like I'm arguing with you, when the purpose of my response was that I think you're being way too black and white and unbalanced about this. Way too one-sided in your take, and that things involving "why people aren't just getting along" can't be reduced to such a base mechanism. People coming in and shading people for being really passionate and into these things and dedicating a lot of time to it as a hobby is far, far from being better, and yes, I can tell you as somebody into some of the more weird shit that it happens needlessly and pointlessly often. The "problem" doesn't exactly seem so limited in scope, yet you're only acknowledging one half of the problem on this topic and treating people who are discussing the other half as being against you when they bring as much up. But eh, you're just wanting to treat it like a battle where you're being misrepresented, or like disagreement is something so holistically "you're with me or against me and if you're neither than you can say nothing," which I very much feel that vibe after being told stuff like "if these description do not fall into who you are then move along" or "Yes, that is the point and we both agree, end" then, well, that's your problem, I guess. You certainly don't seem capable of actually conversing on this topic to me with any sense of nuance, for whatever that's worth, which was the dice roll that I was taking in the first place. It didn't come up sevens, it seems, so I'll just part way here. |
ManabanSep 23, 2018 7:59 AM
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| I am pretty sure the hollywood movies only watchers hate me for only watching retarded dumb comedies and Winona Ryder movies, so I don't hate them and I don't care about their tastes. |
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AstZero said: Somali_Strawhat said: ? Elitists are defined by acting the same as all other elitists who are defined by acting the same as all other elitists who are defined by...thats what a recursive definition is. If all elitists are defined by acting like each other then literally nothing defines them other than being a hive mind of thought. Which is a shit argument with no backing to validate your claim. And I'm not an elitist because ,what, you don't think so? What is in an elitist attitude that isn't informed by the shows they watched? They're elitists because they are willing to point out opinions about what makes one show great, and another show shit and value their method of curation. I do the same, but usually with friends I know have thicker skin and more informed opinions since the internet is filled with crybabies and shit posting human land mines. Friends I know can form a coherent if at times offensive argument that I respect and challenge me to defend why I enjoy a series without resorting to pandering perspectives like, "Why can't I enjoy it just because its fun?" without a clear understanding as to what made it fun in the first place. Because why waste my time with someone who's metrics for judging anime are so incompatible with mine as to cause me a migraine thinking about how they went about giving a series the score that they did? For the sake of preventing thread derailment this is my last reply on this topic. Elitists are defined by their attitude. And the attitude they usually show is the same or very similar to other people that proclaim themselves or are proclaimed as elitists. I've spelled it out for you. There are no elitist shows there are only elitist people. Do you really know why they're frowned upon? It's not because they have an opinion and are willing to put it out there for others to see and argue about it.(everybody has the will to put their opinion out there and not always defend it but sometimes) If you haven't noticed people tend to argue a lot on MAL regarding all types of opinions... The thing with you people(you included since you're so hellbent on it) is your constant portrayal of condescension and outright arrogance thinking that you're above somebody else and in fact trying to lord your opinion over somebody. You believe your opinion is worth more cause it's you who's saying it. Rarely have i seen an elitist present their opinion as nothing less of a fact. Funnily enough most of the time they're not even willing to argue about their show and just resort to the MAL classical ad hominem and dismiss your opinion based on what you watch. It literally boils down to "You watched X anime. You have shit taste, therefore your opinion on my Y anime is invalid." Offensive arguments(though i'm 100% sure can be avoided because i would imagine it comes down to the wording of it) are not part of this problem. Nobody here is asking anybody(me especially) to bend to pandering perspectives of "Shutting your brain off and enjoying it", cause telling people how and what to enjoy is stupid in itself. Why wouldn't I value my opinion more than someone if my opinion was informed on research what elements made it enjoyable and someone tries to make an X is better than Y argument over just instinct and general enjoyment? And just because perceived quality is subjective, that doesn't mean I can't differentiate between shows that were lazy commercials for their source material and ones who were able to utilize every advantage of what animation has over other mediums to the fullest. Some people talk shit about what shows I like with no solid backing as to why they hate it. That's not just being an elitist, that's also being a shitposting dumbass with too much time on their hands. The fact that you said there's RARELY any elitist who doesn't present their opinion as fact means that there are those who do and you're just generalizing all based off anectdotal evidence of the majority YOU'VE encountered who couldn't present an argument. The elitists I know are stubborn with their opinions, myself included. Sure there is no such thing as a series being objectively bad, but aggregate scoring is just the conceit of finding an alternative form of comprimise to that notion. Shows aren't objectively bad but generally agreed to be shit. Shows aren't good but generally agreed to contain some artistic merit. Elitists are just another alternative comprimise. They're thinking is usually along the line of "Yes Ok there is no such thing as objectively shit, but can someone please explain to me what is the appeal of X show? Because I can't find even a drop of it and I think its shit" Elitists are people who believe their metrics on what constitutes good is better than another person's. But if they can reasonably present their opinions in a way as to convey how they got to that conclusion, using sources from actual writers and story , pinpointing which of the staff played a key role to their enjoyment with detailed observations, why shouldn't the value their own opinion than someone who can't? Everyone likes anime in different ways. But in like every artistic field of expression where percieved quality is always going to be objectively subjective, there are people who are going to study what makes something of high quality with the vain hopes that their subjectivity can get as close as possible to objective clarity. And I just tend to respect those people more for their efforts even if its futile. |
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Golden_Scarlett said: i dislike normies who hate on shounen fag normies and think they ascended even tho they also havent gone beyond shit like SSY and clannad 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆🖕👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| My weeb insticts make me hate every single normie in the world. |
 Ｓｗｅｅｔ♥I guess, as long as I have life, all I can do is fight with all my might. |
| wait wait wait hold up when did shounen fans become classified as normies normes dont even watch anime like how my boss said he couldn't finish Death Note because it was animated |
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Deknijff said: wait wait wait hold up when did shounen fans become classified as normies normes dont even watch anime like how my boss said he couldn't finish Death Note because it was animated The term "normie" has become way too loose in the anime community. Just like the terms loli, tsundere, yandere, etc. |
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GlennMagusHarvey said: bondtux said: Whoops, somehow I missed this post when I posted earlier.i dont know what is the meaning of normies... so i dont know Basically, yeah, it doesn't really have a definition, other than "people who are more mainstream than me". Like, it's the opposite of "hipster", in a way. Thanks, I saw that term a couple of times but never knew what it actually meant. I have no idea what I am since I don't like to categorise people, concepts and also terms. In other words I cannot dislike them because to each his own. If they like Naruto and One Pice. Fine. I never watched either show. I like what I like. I do not even know (in most cases at least) whether the show is popular or not. I watch for enjoyment. Period. |
| What are you talking about Op? You havent even fished over 200 and making a fuss about normies. You' still are pretty much normie. |
| I think the reason why people might think 'normies' are being disliked is because a lot of them tend to be rather... over-zealous about their fandom. As long as you respect the fact that other people might not like the show as much as they do, I don't think people are going to mind no matter how mainstream you are. (I'm saying this as a person whose tastes lean more to the generic elitistic side. I can't help it, they're just good shows...) |
| My favorite series are Hunter x Hunter, Fate/Zero, and Code Geass. So I'm probably quite a normie compared to some so meet me out back and we can fight. |
| i dont hate them unless they get annoying af or say their favorite shit is better than anything else. Another thing that makes them annoying is that when you say x popular series is bad, they say you hate it cause its popular. Like no, a series is shit when its shit and not if its a market success |
| Yeah right there is no way a doujin about vomit exists. Good song https://soundcloud.com/yeungkakit33/op4-hekireki-last-alliance Tsumino account is BigMaraIppo Another Good Song Listen to テスト by mukami #np on #SoundCloud https://soundcloud.com/mukami/77a Ashita no Joe and Megalo box are disappointing anime. My reviews:https://myanimelist.net/profile/Botan-Chan45/reviews Best Naruto Op: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByCNZxOBVWM&list=RDByCNZxOBVWM&index=1 discord name: Chitoge Kirisaki#9564 https://discord.gg/nGKu6zx my discord server for plebs |
| Why do you get frustrated at people watching what they enjoy? Isn't the point of watching anime enjoying it? But maybe I just feel addressed, because I mainly watch shounen. |
FMmatron said: Golden_Scarlett said: i dislike normies who hate on shounen fag normies and think they ascended even tho they also havent gone beyond shit like SSY and clannad 👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆🖕👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆👆 U know i remenbered those 2 are your fav animes too so i thought you were quoting me to diss me 🤣 |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
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