How Much Do You Dislike Normies?

Somali_Strawhat said:


I don't know about that. Generalizing elitists into one group as if they all act the same is weird. I'm an elitist and I like normies. And I don't even mean that in a condascending way as to imply I like looking down on them.

Rather, I like listening to what they enjoy in other fiction mediums so I can recommend them something they enjoy. One of my closest friends who is a normie had never seen Bebop becausd people kept praising it as this masterpiece (which it is) and treating him like he's an idiot for never seeing it. Mind you that's an opinion even normies had towards non Bebop fans.

So I explained to him why I enjoyed it, compared it to films he enjoyed. Showed him Asimov fight scene with Spike with the music swelling in the background, and then we spent the next week binging about 4_5 episodes a day. And it was awesome. He welled up in tears at the parts most people do and we both had something to talk about at the end of every episode.

By the end of the series he wanted me to recommend him so more I thought he'd enjoy and its that I get to share my favorites with him.

Now he's seen Megazone 23, Hajime no Ippo, Baki, One Outs and much more.


I think popular anime are the ones that end up having such a wide target audience and plays onto to already established story telling norms, tropes, themes and ideas.

If you want a normie to get into more obscure anime, its an elitist's job to properly argue why it's worth their time. Some do it by belittling others (reverse psychology is effective for some people) and some elitists are just good at understanding what others want and recommend base shows that they enjoy that they also believe normies would enjoy.

But being an elitist isn't bad. Being steadfast in your tastes and opinions is actually admirable. And most elitists start out as normies who had to rely on a combination of fishing around torrents or the recommendations of others...some of whom were elitists.

Somali_Strawhat said:


I'm self aware since I know how much fun finding new anime that I enjoy and I would be arrogant to think that made me a better person or something.

That said, I DO think I'm more informed as a result. I have pride in my tastes. I love debating with other elitists with thicker skin over why their show ain't shit. And I also love shooting down recommmendations of friends who I know have shit taste in anime for fun.

Why? Because I'm confident that my opinions are valid and I like to believe that I curate anime of the highest quality. Is that actually true? Hardly. Since quality is subjective.

But I like to think my criteria for good quality is not even when it is.

And most of my normie friends are only Ghibli fans. Again, not a bad thing. Anime isn't for everyone. Some normie friends are only into popular shounen. Cool. Thats how I was when I first got in. I rewatched the first vhs of Steet Fighter II V until it messed up and I had to pay the rental store full price for it. And since it was damaged my Mom tossed it out. So I ended paying full price for something that ended up in the trash. But I don't regret seeing the same 3 episodes over a 100 times since thats one of the reasons I got into anime in the first place lmao

Somali_Strawhat said:
I feel you on that. Lmfao, the master of breasts hahahsha

And yeah, I think we're on the same page but with different definitions on what makes an elitist. Pride comes before the fall but self respect is worth more than sitting through 3 seasons of Overlord. In my humble opinion. Not that people who watched and like Overlord have no self respect. I just felt I lost some after trying to understand what people like about the series by catching up on it from the very beginning and gaining nothing out of it.

GlennMagusHarvey said:
Well, fundamentally, the term "normie" is used to refer to someone else who is more "normal".

Ever heard that old joke about the term "yankee"? "To a foreigner, a Yankee is an American; to a southerner, a Yankee is a northerner; to a northerner, a Yankee is a person from New England; to a New Englander, a Yankee is from Vermont; to a Vermonter, a Yankee is someone who has apple pie for breakfast."

Basically the same thing is happening.

To the anime fandom as a whole, a "normie" is someone who doesn't like anime. To a longtime fan, a "normie" is someone who only knows SAO/MHA/Naruto. To a sub fan, a "normie" is someone who likes dubs. To someone who unironically talks about enjoying ecchi, a "normie" is someone who doesn't like anime fanservice. To an elitist, a "normie" is someone who hasn't seen enough of a very limited list of "true classics". And so on.

Somali_Strawhat said:


I don't know what its like dealing with addiction, but if you've gotten through the worst of it than more power to you. If not, I hope you find the strength to do since you seem pretty cool.

But I get distracting yourself via anime to escape depression. And just because I don't understand Overlord's appeal doesn't mean I think people who like it are lesser than me ir something. I totally understand watching something for pure entertainment.

One of my favorite movies is the Transporter. Pure action, thin story, no change in the MC beyond the superficial. Yet its well shot and well choreographed which is more than what I can say for a ton of action films. Plus the soundtrack sounds dated in a good way to reflect the movie's cheesiness and adds to the feeling of how different tje world was like at the time of the film's recording.

But I don't think you should be ashamed of being an otaku. If you found an creative outlet that could allow you to utilize your experience and knowledge on accumulated various anime viewings I'm sure you'd find that accomplishing something you could've only done as an otaku is worthy of respect.

Again, me personally, I love being called an elitist. It means I'm someone who's tailored a criteria through experience and information through various sources, as well observations through interacting with other fans and non fans alike, all to curate the most quality taste in anime.

And since quality is subjective, and tastes change over time, its a futile endeavor in the end. But I wouldn't say its meaningless.

Somali_Strawhat said:


Shit man, at least you're trying. East coast opiate epidemic is ridiculous. Some of the people I grew up with are dead and buried as a result. If you can fight heroin addiction with a sense of humor you've got more than enough confidence to state your opinions supplemented by audio and visuals.

And the russian lady is sexy. But not nearly as sexy as the Milf from the second movie lmao

Somali_Strawhat said:


Well how about this? Send me a script of something you think has value to you, and want to share with others. I'll read it. And share my opinions so we can discuss the topic together. I won't judge or criticize you either. So the level of anxiety might be considerably less than a competitive online video game with a clear distinction for winners and losers.

In this scenario its a win win. You get to distract yourself in a way that sharpens your creative writing. Its also 0 pressure since I won't share it with anyone. And regardless of whether or not I agree, you still have someone to talk to about something you were passionate about to write your opinion on it, and I get to discuss your opinion with a full understanding of why you felt that way.

No pressure, your choice either way. But I just don't think being an Otaku is something to be ashamed about. Tarantino is a movie otaku and look where not going tp film school got him.

And the fact that you are capable of understanding you have a long way to go to get to where you want to be is humbling. Seriously, you seem more interesting than most anitubers I watch.


And I get you about the redheaded freckle aesthetic on a russian. But the MILF is about much more than the MILF. You end up cucking her husband, while scarring tje kid for life without any responsibility. That's why being a motherfucker is a compliment. It means you're unstoppable tornado wrecking homes without a care in the world.

Whats more badass than that...LMFAO