DO NOT discuss the source material beyond this episode. If you want to discuss future events or theories, please use separate threads.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
DO NOT ask where to watch/download this episode or give links to copyrighted, non-fair use material.
DO NOT troll/bait/harass/abuse other users for liking or disliking the series/characters.
DO read the Anime Discussion Rules and Site & Forum Guidelines.
| Well now we understand Beatrice a little better. Being experimented upon by her father must have really traumatized her, but I guess we can thank her father for granting her the ability to mimic voices. That's really going to come in handy for our group of spies. She really saved Ange's hide this episode. Beatrice may have been annoying, but hopefully this experience will get her to behave a little more. That was really good when they were inside the call room. Ange was listening to them all at once, and I noticed the statement about Jennifer. When she brought that up later, I was impressed, very impressed. It seemed like unnecessary information, but that information is what saved their lives. Brilliantly done! It was also nice to see all four main characters participate in the infiltration. Charlotte creates a diversion, Dorothy infiltrates to give Ange an opening, Ange deals with the more dynamic part of the mission, and Beatrice...well...we'll see what her role will be later on now that she seems to be willing to cooperate with the spies. And that Cavorite Ball and its anti-gravity properties making Ange looking like a Ninja in London. That was a lot of bullets she dodged. Maybe it helps her avoid bullets too? We ought to get some exposition on that ball. Oh btw, the soldiers were shooting their own aircraft...AYYYYY! |
TarotistOct 28, 2018 2:51 PM
 |
| "Damn, some of the background storytelling in this series are harsh to watch especially for the younger characters." @Stark700 Couldn't have said better. Finally, Beatrice did something instead of screaming all the time xD Another great episode, keep coming ;) |
"There is no such thing as an Anime elitist. You watch Anime, therefore, you are trash by society's standards." |
Anise_Punter said: me: "none of this episode makes any logical sense, did you bring a cannon aboard a blimp? Did that girl want *salt* in her tea?" People drink tea with salt tho. Even if we ignore traditional mongolian suutei tsai, there are plenty of british tea recipes that use salt too. |
 |
Fai said: Anise_Punter said: me: "none of this episode makes any logical sense, did you bring a cannon aboard a blimp? Did that girl want *salt* in her tea?" People drink tea with salt tho. Even if we ignore traditional mongolian suutei tsai, there are plenty of british tea recipes that use salt too. And then, it wasn't salt but sugar she used there afterall. |
| "There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force." The Jedi Code |
| Beatrice shines in this episode because of how loyal she is to the Princess! 4/5. |
 |
| Let's talk about that heist for a minute. The first half does make some sense. Use the princess' authority to get onto the ship where one of them sneaks away to let the other two in. Wait, wouldn't that have been enough for the first part? Dorothy doesn't appear again until the heist is over, so why couldn't Ange have snuck in and done the rest by herself. But okay, that's a minor thing, let's put it to one side for now. Once Ange and Beatrice are in they find a Comms room to find out where the plates are. That's fine, it makes sense. Next, Ange uses her steampunk magic to walk along the outside of the plane to get to where the plates are. Why the outside of the plane you ask? Maximum badassery of course! So at this point the plan goes wrong, and Ange gets spotted because she was struck by lightning (seriously what did you think would happen walking on the outside of metal plane in a thunderstorm?). She quickly recovers, runs to the front where the bad guy is and beats the shit out of him but has to be saved by Beatrice. This is the part I understood the least. If Ange hadn't been spotted and had made it to the guy's room incognito, what would have happened? Wouldn't she still have gotten into a fight and had to be rescued by Beatrice, who, may I remind you was there by accident. No wonder this pan went wrong, there were so many other ways they could have done this, and none of them involve Ange in any way. One last thing. While all this gunfire and shit was happening, the Princess and Dorothy were still on the plane somewhere. What were they doing that was more important than the heist?! |
ChilliePeppersJul 24, 2017 3:10 AM
TheGreatMizuti said: Let's talk about that heist for a minute. The first half does make some sense. Use the princess' authority to get onto the ship where one of them sneaks away to let the other two in. Wait, wouldn't that have been enough for the first part? Dorothy doesn't appear again until the heist is over, so why couldn't Ange have snuck in and done the rest by herself. But okay, that's a minor thing, let's put it to one side for now. Once Ange and Beatrice are in they find a Comms room to find out where the plates are. That's fine, it makes sense. Next, Ange uses her steampunk magic to walk along the outside of the plane to get to where the plates are. Why the outside of the plane you ask? Maximum badassery of course! So at this point the plan goes wrong, and Ange gets spotted because she was struck by lightning (seriously what did you think would happen walking on the outside of metal plane in a thunderstorm?). She quickly recovers, runs to the front where the bad guy is and beats the shit out of him but has to be saved by Beatrice. This is the part I understood the least. If Ange hadn't been spotted and had made it to the guy's room incognito, what would have happened? Wouldn't she still have gotten into a fight and had to be rescued by Beatrice, who, may I remind you was there by accident. No wonder this pan went wrong, there were so many other ways they could have done this, and none of them involve Ange in any way. One last thing. While all this gunfire and shit was happening, the Princess and Dorothy were still on the plane somewhere. What were they doing that was more important than the heist?! the princess and dorothy were NOT on the plane, they are just visit the plane and hangar for sometime to misleaded the guard and dorothy helped ange in to the plane. you can see princess and dorothy stood beside their car and look the plane flied away, around 12:30-12:35 in anime. |
RavenOmegaJul 24, 2017 4:16 AM
RavenOmega said: TheGreatMizuti said: Let's talk about that heist for a minute. The first half does make some sense. Use the princess' authority to get onto the ship where one of them sneaks away to let the other two in. Wait, wouldn't that have been enough for the first part? Dorothy doesn't appear again until the heist is over, so why couldn't Ange have snuck in and done the rest by herself. But okay, that's a minor thing, let's put it to one side for now. Once Ange and Beatrice are in they find a Comms room to find out where the plates are. That's fine, it makes sense. Next, Ange uses her steampunk magic to walk along the outside of the plane to get to where the plates are. Why the outside of the plane you ask? Maximum badassery of course! So at this point the plan goes wrong, and Ange gets spotted because she was struck by lightning (seriously what did you think would happen walking on the outside of metal plane in a thunderstorm?). She quickly recovers, runs to the front where the bad guy is and beats the shit out of him but has to be saved by Beatrice. This is the part I understood the least. If Ange hadn't been spotted and had made it to the guy's room incognito, what would have happened? Wouldn't she still have gotten into a fight and had to be rescued by Beatrice, who, may I remind you was there by accident. No wonder this pan went wrong, there were so many other ways they could have done this, and none of them involve Ange in any way. One last thing. While all this gunfire and shit was happening, the Princess and Dorothy were still on the plane somewhere. What were they doing that was more important than the heist?! the princess and dorothy were NOT on the plane, they are just visit the plane and hangar for sometime to mislead the guard and for dorothy help ange in to the plane. you can see princess and dorothy stand beside their car and look the plane fly away, around 12:30-12:35 in anime. You're right. Okay, that bit was my mistake. |
| So this episode served to establish why Beatrice is involved in the plot and to develop her character a little more. In that aspect, I don't think it was done all that well. We got some of the backstory into how her father was torturing her, which was quite sudden. My guess is they had to include something gritty to suit the aesthetic and so they went for a mad Steampunk professor who tortured his daughter for experimentation purposes. Maybe he'll show up as a bad guy later? What I'm interested in knowing is how she could imitate someone's voice so quickly by covering parts of her neck device. Talk about spies being awful and how you hate lying all you want but that ability can lead to some pretty sweet deceptions, hehehe. Wonder how she figured that one out... Initially, I thought if the focus was on Beatrice, we'd get a bit more than a brief flashback of why she's so loyal to the Princess. Princess: 'Hey wanna b friends?' Beatrice: 'K, I'LL LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR YOU HIME-SAMA.' Anyway, I'm looking forward to the next episode. ᕕ( ᐛ )ᕗ |
| Fuck that dad, poor Beatrice q_q That bullet dodging lol. |
 |
| It keep getting better with every episode |
| So much nitpick. HyperL explained most of it already, but the thing about the salt was clearly a lie. I think the "this is salt from the black lizard planet" had made it obvious. Could at least complain about things that makes sense, like how Beatrice could mimic a voice she never heard. Then again, we don't know how her powers works. And yeah, Ange's mission would fail, probably, if Beatrice wasn't there. I'm not a fan of that kind of development, but that's okay. Spies fail in their missions all the time. Also, Beatrice is a great character. |
| What kind of a father gives his daughter a steampunk treatment...? (Beatrice's obviously.) The infiltration mission was interesting, though. Ange even managed to gain a friend, in addition to avoiding serious economic woes for her employers. Dorothy's seduction techniques are second to none... |
Fai said: Soooo...is it just me or Charlotte and Ange feels like more than friends? First "Ange" talks about how they could run away to live together in Casablanca. Then "Charlotte" talks about how she has to become queen so they can be together and stuff. That sounds more like a romance than anything. Romance? Naah they're most probably sisters that got separated 10 years ago because of the revolution. That similar face is a dead giveaway |
Gersoncs said: And yeah, Ange's mission would fail, probably, if Beatrice wasn't there. I'm not a fan of that kind of development, but that's okay. Spies fail in their missions all the time. Also, Beatrice is a great character. Actually, Ange would likely be able to beat the Duke's agent without getting badly hurt if Beatrice wasn't there. You see that when Beatrice went through the cable, her weight made Ange suddenly get pushed back, giving a chance to the enemy to hit her. So Beatrice saves Ange from a situation Beatrice caused herself. All in all, I don't blame nor got angry at Beatrice. From her point of view, it's completely understandable her distrust of the spies, even more when she saw that they could easily kill the princess and replace her. Bea don't have the info we viewers have to know Ange would never do that. |
| "There is no emotion, there is peace. There is no ignorance, there is knowledge. There is no passion, there is serenity. There is no chaos, there is harmony. There is no death, there is the Force." The Jedi Code |
| Man, in the first couple of minutes of the episode I was all set to come here and post about Beatrice being so overbearing and annoying...but then they showed her past. Poor fucking girl. No wonder she acts the way she does. Her father is scum. |
MAADCity1 said: Wait i dont understand!!! So the gray haired girl its Charlotte the real daughter thats its supossed to be the first in ascension and the blondie its the real Ange? the thing that i dont understand its if they are twins since bith why in the revolution of London Charlotte is abandoned and Ange takes her position? Or the king only recognized as a legitimate daughter Ange? If a royal daughter is lost she is supposed to be sought throughout all the kingdom :/ so sorry for the bad english im from Chile Nothing so far has been explained. There might've been some switched at birth circumstances, or that one was born in the East and the other in the West on opposite sides of the wall, or issues of lineage regarding their mothers. But so far nothing concrete has been established. It'd be interesting if they were assuming each other's identities, with the illegitimate one being the one wanting the throne and the legitimate one simply wanting to be with her sister. But unless I missed something major, nothing so far has been established. |
| And again lolis are amazing! |
 |
Code_Lies said: Fai said: Soooo...is it just me or Charlotte and Ange feels like more than friends? First "Ange" talks about how they could run away to live together in Casablanca. Then "Charlotte" talks about how she has to become queen so they can be together and stuff. That sounds more like a romance than anything. Romance? Naah they're most probably sisters that got separated 10 years ago because of the revolution. That similar face is a dead giveaway That would create new problems tho: - Why is nobody aware there's another sister. - Why is there only one girl in the photo - Why is "Ange" safe with using Ange identity in commonwealth if it is identity of a princess? Not to mention that would make use of Casablanca reference even weirder as it is associated with star crossed lovers. AvidAnimeViewer said: MAADCity1 said: Wait i dont understand!!! So the gray haired girl its Charlotte the real daughter thats its supossed to be the first in ascension and the blondie its the real Ange? the thing that i dont understand its if they are twins since bith why in the revolution of London Charlotte is abandoned and Ange takes her position? Or the king only recognized as a legitimate daughter Ange? If a royal daughter is lost she is supposed to be sought throughout all the kingdom :/ so sorry for the bad english im from Chile Nothing so far has been explained. There might've been some switched at birth circumstances, or that one was born in the East and the other in the West on opposite sides of the wall, or issues of lineage regarding their mothers. But so far nothing concrete has been established. It'd be interesting if they were assuming each other's identities, with the illegitimate one being the one wanting the throne and the legitimate one simply wanting to be with her sister. But unless I missed something major, nothing so far has been established. The wall is 10 years old |
|
| Holy fucking hell that annoying voice, hope there'll be less screen time for whatever is the name of the Bumblebee girl who just yells for 3 damn episodes. Also, what the heck, firing bullets at your own ship... that is some next level stupidity right there.... |
 |
LordOfCinder said: For the firing their own plane thing, I guess that's because it's buletproof, basic guns won't do much damage to it. Bulletproof! |
|
| Yeah ... the first 2 episodes were better. |
 |
| that last part with ange and beato talking about the tea was quite nice lol only stupid thing beatrice did was jump into the water, other than that i'm ok with her this episode |
favorite "new girls" from summer <3 ... click sig for older seasons and more possible picks (rip all the other choices) |
| So technically Ange is royalty, too, right? Anyway, I wouldn't be surprised if she replaces the Princess in the end. |
 Three things cannot be long hidden.. ...the s u n, the m oo n, and the tr u th. |
Fai said: Soooo...is it just me or Charlotte and Ange feels like more than friends? First "Ange" talks about how they could run away to live together in Casablanca. Then "Charlotte" talks about how she has to become queen so they can be together and stuff. That sounds more like a romance than anything. TWINCEST WINCEST INCEST YURI |
HyperL said: Well, overall I agree with that Nexx guy/ I understand his point. Here's my thinking.@furuuru Due to the above, I object to your "seconded". Except for the part that you excepts XD imo Beatice could even follow Ange in the first place is a bit weird. Interupting them during mission is really dangerous, better interrupting them when they about to go in the first place, here's go "What Beatrice even thinking?". Okay maybe she tried before and failed to stop them, but the next question is "Why would they think it's a good decision to bring Beatrice in this mission?" or maybe I can worded it "Why Ange LET Beatrice to follow them?". I'm 100% sure at least Ange knows that Beatrice is following her. But this is a real mission, and there's some kid who possibly ruins your mission. And you let her go to do as she please. Note that the staffs only know Princess visit with Dorothy only, not with Beatrice. Additionally, when Ange wants to enter the Grouceter she only have one breathing tool, it proves that Beatrice is not even included in their plan/ not supposed to follow Ange. Staffs finding Beatrice wandering around afterwards could be a bad scenario. tl;dr for a clever girl like Ange, letting Beatrice is a bit weird and really risky. I think its just technical flaw tho, like I said it didnt really affect my enjoyment, but yup I thought "uh weird, but whatever" and thats it. Overall this episode's point is to show how Beatrice accept Ange and vice versa, and that point is accomplished nicely imo, so I can forgive technical flaws in this episode. |
 |
anirudhsuki said: Can he replace sho Tucker? Nobody can replace a legend like Shou Tucker. Nobody. |
| Salmon is delicious. |
| Logic aside this episode was fun again. Beatrices Dad did something horrible to her, but on the bright side of things his preference to remodel his daughter kinda saved the day in the end. So my highest regards are going to him, the misunderstood MVP of this episode :D Ange and Beatrice became friends and Ange likes her tea salty. |
One Piece episode 914 & 915 & 1027 were a mistake and 957 brought the salvation - FMmatron |
| Immediately remembered the Sean Connery self-shooting scene from Indiana Jones too. Its getting pretty regular to shoot your plane down. |
 |
Lelouch_Darsi said: Aren't Ange and the princess sisters? They even look alike. Probably. Or related. Ange even said as much. |
| My old Japan blog which I'm never going to finish: https://ramenshojo.wordpress.com/2016/08/07/day-6-nakano-broadway-harmonica-street-zauo-restaurant/ |
| That dodge bullet, Neo (Matrix) approves. Salt on tea? And poor Beatrice. |
| In a way, I almost feel bad for Dorothy. She's the only true spy here, at least from what we've seen so far, the rest of the "club" is there just for the Princess. :D |
 |
| A father experimenting on her daughter ?! now were have I seen that before... :^) |
| Beatrice back story is messed up but holy fuck is she annoying |
 |
| Didn't expect Beatrice's past will be that tragic and hard to watch. But It's nice to see Ange and Beatrice get along in the end though. That action scene when Ange board the ship and run "defying the gravity and bullets" is impressive too. Good Episode overall. |
 ~ | Profile | Anime List | Manga List | ♪ | ~ |
| Ange Bond 000000007 So... are those plates part of the main plot... or are we just team building? |
  |
HaXXspetten said: You forgot the most important thing: who the hell pours salt into their tea? I interpreted this as "Ange always lies" and in that way meant the opposite by liking "salt in her tea" and Bea got that and thus served sugar. Thus the remark of the "salt" being quite sweet. |
| I'd love to meet the writer of this series, they got some pretty special brains to come up with all this shit in such immaculate detail and intent. This show is not ceasing to impress me. raytsh said: Yeah that's exactly it - this anime does a very good job of filtering out the people who pay attention from those who don't.HaXXspetten said: I interpreted this as "Ange always lies" and in that way meant the opposite by liking "salt in her tea" and Bea got that and thus served sugar. Thus the remark of the "salt" being quite sweet.You forgot the most important thing: who the hell pours salt into their tea? Or in my less flattering lexicon: it separates the dim people from the keen ones. It does not pander the slow. |
GenesisAriaAug 3, 2017 11:06 AM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| the anime is great but I didn't like this episode that much. Opening doors with cannons? How does that even make sense? |
 |
More topics from this board
Poll: » Princess Principal Episode 12 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )Thatonebadbro - Sep 24, 2017 |
185 |
by bekam11
»»
Nov 22, 4:49 PM |
|
Poll: » Princess Principal Episode 6 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Aug 13, 2017 |
136 |
by little_raven
»»
Nov 7, 7:00 PM |
|
Poll: » Princess Principal Episode 7 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Aug 20, 2017 |
102 |
by rainbowScarlet
»»
Apr 17, 7:26 PM |
|
Poll: » Princess Principal Episode 2 Discussion ( 1 2 3 )Stark700 - Jul 16, 2017 |
132 |
by Bing_101010
»»
Sep 10, 2023 5:11 PM |
|
Poll: » Princess Principal Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 5 )Stark700 - Jul 9, 2017 |
205 |
by Bing_101010
»»
Sep 7, 2023 8:04 PM |