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| I think I'll drop this. The themes and subjects they are exploring are good, but the execution is so damn boring that it simply doesn't appeal to me. Too bad, because I really liked what they wanted to say; it's just the approach that is too unbearable. Maybe I'll give it another chance once it is finished. |
| Shout out to Chicago |
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| i liked this episode's mystery, and that they also explore themes like war. the grandpa perving on chika was really unnecessary though. :p |
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Takuan_Soho said: The US withdrew from Vietnam in 1973, South Vietnam managed to survive until 1975, the writer did not do enough research, he thought that since the War lasted until 1975, he should have his character return in 1976. It should have been 1974. I see now. Thanks for the info. =) |
| that was okay at best |
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| OMG Vietnam part 0___0 |
| That was fun. And by fun I mean dark and heartwarming? Cute new character though! She's definitely going to be making future appearances. Also, these kids are really, really good at their instruments. That oboe line at the beginning as Chika was playing scales!? I wish I could ever sound that good. A lot of people wish that! |
CourtComposerFeb 6, 2016 11:43 PM
| Do people treat the elderly bad in Japan??;; I get that people were hurt/frustrated, but why are they hitting grandpas with pillows and everyone else is hardly raising a finger about it here?;; And then they way they were talking to him sometimes, like what the heck? The only way that would ever pass if I did that would be if they were actually about to cause me harm in some type of way besides only emotional harm. |
| Episode that has some pretty interesting topics, but during the narration that emphasis is missing that makes it interesting vision of the facts, the context of which it was investigating was intriguing, however, lacked the atmosphere that makes the pleasant mysteries to discover. Drawings and animations, of sufficient quality, the characters this time I did not like much. |
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| Another episode, another load of info pulled straight out of Haruta's ass. I'm getting bored of the repetitive formula too. New character introduced to the music club, character must have tragic backstory and terrible life events. How boorish. |
 It's an entirely different kind of flying, altogether! It's an entirely different kind of flying. |
| Haruta enters in the grandfather's room and he already knew he probably has amnesia. Then in the end of the episode Haruta acts like a doctor, telling him that he has a specific disease. The teacher is also a knows it all. Sensei knew about the vietnam war but in any moment the students explained to him about the grandfather's story. |
guddi said: What, so I'm the only who really loved Haruta? Sad. No, you aren't. He's my fave lol |
| New characters kinda cute, but hitting her grandfather in his dying bed wtf |
Comic_Sans said: Consider watching for example Young Black Jack then, it's got Vietnam War and PTSD, too.I do like that they're bringing up political issues and taboo subjects... I don't think I've ever seen an anime where they talked about things such as Chinese Americans, Vietnam war, PTSD etc However I still wish it could have been just a little, little bit less boring This episode Chika just showed how much of a waifu she is :------D Dat cooking and all. Was an intriguing episode, but Haruta y u so lame tho. |
Takuan_Soho said: Kyruga said: "War is ruthless, cruel and stupid." That sort of sums up my distaste for the emotional trolling this episode used. War is not always stupid. I know this is directed at children, but if they want to pretend to be "deep" then they shouldn't resort to platitudes. Was it stupid for the UK to declare war on Nazi Germany when they invaded Poland? Or for the US to fight Imperial Japan? History is complex and if we want to prevent war then we need to acknowledge this instead of relying on cliched pronouncements. I don't see your point, first was the Nazi Germany who invaded Polony, so they STARTED the war right? for what? For a reason cruel AND stupid, the same things happens with the Japan, with invaded american bases first, if you wanna contest this quote please give a example where someone STARTED a war with a resonate and good reason... |
| Wow that was a fantastic episode! I love seeing really quick on the uptake characters, rather than dumb ones that have to slowly step by step figure things out to spoon-feed the audience the reasoning process. This anime is not about depicting the reasoning process, it's about solving emotional problems with the guise of a mystery. Anyone criticizing this episode doesn't understand intelligent deduction. If i knew much about the time period and details relevant, i would have likely deduced a similar hypothesis in as short of time as well. Seeing the elephant trapped within a terrible place, being painted in late 70s, and the sky coloured of the chemical weapons, is a pretty good piece of art and by no means ambiguous. Haruta was delving into a sticky situation of serious emotional burdens, and was exactly why the teacher told them not to dig further into it in attempt to save them of that knowledge. His reasoning that lead him to the answer was spot on. This show gets way too many unjustified whiners. This is one of the best "problem of the week" anime i've seen in ages. It's got a good style of giving vague clues ant getting you to try guess before Haruta solves it (you got 15 or so mins, where bits of info given to you, to solve it... you gotta be sharp). Unless of course you don't think when you watch tv; in which case please go back to reality tv. Anime is for people who at least use their brain a bit. -- To the above statements on wars: nobody starts the war, they're symptoms of condition. It's nigh impossible to trace the inception of any particular war if you consider all stages, from beliefs to combat to economics. That said, the catalyst to hot warfare is usually found within the one who "snaps" first and lashes out... They're usually a victim of something or have a cause with bad methods (Japanese expansion was a peace through power mentality; shut everyone up so they can be friends - doing it physically was a poor method, now they do it via spreading culture). War is inefficient and terrible cuz everyone goes killing eachother until they finally sit down and do what they could have done in the beginning: talk it out and solve pressing issues. If faction B realized that faction A's problems were desperate enough to go to war over, then faction B should have the wisdom to help faction A to prevent pointless death and waste of time. Every time a faction loses a war, all the deaths add up a large cost for something that could have been bought for much cheaper. However, with obstinate societies, the only way to make them get off their asses and open their eyes is to smack them around until they get it. Just an unfortunate reality of human self-restriction. Ps: war torrents many emotions, and as a result, produces a lot of profound art. |
GenesisAriaFeb 8, 2016 3:05 PM
❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| Rather than the MC being gay to the adviser, I'm more annoyed about his 'know all' setting. Seriously, it wouldn't hurt if they (animation studio, or the author himself) would show Haru gathering data from some source and not just asspulls of 'Ah that's ....'. |
"Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5."  |
Cashdax said: Dude, japanese load their skulls with trivia about everything all the damn time. You clearly have limited knowledge of the culture there. It's not like he had to go and study the crap, all the info is just floating around everywhere; you learn it in school or hear it in passing, or learn it from trivia games or variety quiz shows. If you're interested in facts you'll pay attention to it, or not and you'll be like the other chars and yourself who're oblivious. It's not like this one was even hard to guess. If someone was in the US in the 60's/70's and they went poof and are bothered now, and painted a picture like that, drafted into vietnam is pretty much the only thing you could even guess. That's textbook Occam's Razor.Rather than the MC being gay to the adviser, I'm more annoyed about his 'know all' setting. Seriously, it wouldn't hurt if they (animation studio, or the author himself) would show Haru gathering data from some source and not just asspulls of 'Ah that's ....'. Again, i figure stuff out the same way all the time, because i pay attention to facts (or at least take general concepts from those facts) and remember them even several years later. Not everyone is like that, some people are. Haruta is just one of those people. He's not some magical impossible character with the author's godly research behind him or something. Hence why i like him, as well as that teacher, they're very quick on the uptake. It's so tiresome being around so many slow ignorant people who aren't even fun (dimwitted people in anime are at least fun and lovable, and they don't complain about smart people). If you wanna be clever, use ur brain and put in effort; if you don't wanna be clever, then don't. That's completely okay, just stop getting uptight because you restrict your imagination. There's no reason so many people should be complaining about this. If you want to watch mystery solving by slow people, then don't watch anime. Pretty much every detective anything in anime/manga that i've seen, has had very sharp and knowledgeable characters who figure it out fast with clever or intuitive deduction that IS NOT shown to the viewer until they disclose it, or someone else asks for a summary of how they figured it out. It'll usually be the same style: presented as if you were in the room watching what was going down. It's a habit of western tv to show characters rummaging through data and researching everything as if they knew none of it, instead of having gathered an encyclopedia in their head first. |
GenesisAriaFeb 9, 2016 8:14 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
GenesisAria said: He's a generic know-all brain MC who suddenly says 'I got it!' similar to how movies depict stereotype programmers with 'I'm in'. Japanese studying habits are irrelevant and also the quiz shows, its a setting assigned to him by the author. Detective Conan, Hyouka (specifically how they confirm it before they open their mouths) shows how the MCs solve and how they got those 'trivias that are floating around' and not from ass-pulls. Cashdax said: Dude, japanese load their skulls with trivia about everything all the damn time. You clearly have limited knowledge of the culture there. It's not like he had to go and study the crap, all the info is just floating around everywhere; you learn it in school or hear it in passing, or learn it from trivia games or variety quiz shows. If you're interested in facts you'll pay attention to it, or not and you'll be like the other chars and yourself who're oblivious.Rather than the MC being gay to the adviser, I'm more annoyed about his 'know all' setting. Seriously, it wouldn't hurt if they (animation studio, or the author himself) would show Haru gathering data from some source and not just asspulls of 'Ah that's ....'. Again, i figure stuff out the same way all the time, because i pay attention to facts (or at least take general concepts from those facts) and remember them even several years later. Not everyone is like that, some people are. Haruta is just one of those people. He's not some magical impossible character with the author's godly research behind him or something. Hence why i like him, as well as that teacher, they're very quick on the uptake. It's so tiresome being around so many slow ignorant people who aren't even fun (dumb people are at least fun and lovable in anime, and they don't complain about smart people). If you wanna watch mystery solving by dumb people, do't watch anime. Pretty much every detective anything in anime or manga that i've seen, has had very sharp and knowledgeable characters who figure it out fast with clever or intuitive deduction that IS NOT shown to the viewer until they disclose it, or someone else asks for a summary of how they figured it out. It's a habit of western tv to show characters rummaging through data and researching everything as if they knew none of it, instead of having gathered an encyclopedia in their head first. An example of the cringe-worthy part on the character that you like was when they were discussing about the rebellion in the US. Maren's explanation could have carried a lot more weight until Haruta suddenly activated his MC power. If you wanna watch mystery solving by dumb people, do't watch anime Thanks for making me laugh btw |
CashdaxFeb 9, 2016 8:30 PM
| "Your taste is shit cause you like what I hate. Believe me I have 1000 cartoons that I rated with less than 5." |
Takuan_Soho said: Hey, japan has a fetish for fetishes.The Japanese fetish for such things is one of the major charm points of Japan. I'm glad you laughed for no reason. I've seen loads of anime with detective characters, and they usually behave this way without confirming, especially the prideful ones. Just because a few famous ones do it a bit different, doesn't mean that the majority do it that way. And again, culturally speaking, the trivia is mainstay, a lot of watchers may already know what they were talking about, or maybe not and they can go look it up. Point is, in this particular case, the characters involved WERE familiar with it. Who are you to question whether people (characters) are allowed to know things? Maybe the character is just very presumptuous and doesn't check first, but just belts it out without realizing how people might react *cough*. Uhm you know that the "I'm in" for hackers is very similar to why they don't show hotwiring cars or bomb making on tv, because it's illegal and showing people how to do it. So no, that's not even the same thing. And besides, this is a show about people and emotional stuff, not detective work, that's just a container, and i've also mentioned that many times on more that one episode. It's like saying Star Trek is about space, no it ain't, it just happens to be in space. Back to the trivia thing, it also means that this anime serves as another source for trivia. There's loads of anime with trivia inserted. POINT IS, IT'S NOT LAZY WRITING, it was done that way intentionally. Ps: i like many characters in most anime, especially the cute or smug ones, but smart/wise ones too. It's not very often there's an anime where i dislike some or most chars (i don't watch those anime); I'm not embittered to people. |
GenesisAriaFeb 9, 2016 10:55 PM
| ❀桜舞う空〜 Cute is Power. 🔗CosmoGenesis Project “Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.” “A truth seeker has no patience for BS.” I seek only to improve myself and others. |
| huh!...a bit good episode with a lot of values, tragic history experiences and PTSD again. It's getting really annoying to see how Haruto almost knows everything, if not everything it the ability to easily grasp in learning and solving. LOL its fun to see Chika not being able to easily relate to someone who knows what they're talking.... new chick Gotou Akari is cute. 4/5. |
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| 3 people couldn't catch a loli on the run, this just shows the powah of the lolis, Frickin grandpa looking up Chika-chan's legs Then our MC as always knows everything (bs), seems like Maren has joined him as well Sensei telling them to stop investigating those elephant pictures Narushima looking nice as usual Akari is kawaii and quite LEWD, the studio tried to make her legs look nice. Overall it was average, I didn't really like this ep, 2/5 |
AhoNoGinFeb 10, 2016 6:57 AM
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| The episode was okay. The story was intriguing and sad. I hope the next episode will be an arc, for this kind of show I prefer when the story are longer. |
| what a boring episode... When do we actually get to music & stuff? |
| Godammit is Haruta a walking encyclopedia or what. He freaking knows the names of Chicago parks, let alone their artists. I honestly don't like that part of him, seems unrealistic as hell. Maren being knowledgeable still makes sense 'cause he actually stayed in America. Well, I don't like the grandpa. He's openly perverted, and seems pedo. Poor Akari and her grandma.. Chika high level waifu confirmed! Dat food looked delicious! Okay. Haruto somehow managed to investigate about Vietnam war, too. I guess, this is not as bad as him knowing the name of some local zoo, so I'll let this one slide. Chika's one speech at end > Haruto's research. I love her way of doing things. Good episode. |
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| Nice episode with quite a hard backstory :| |
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| Again. They mystery, history, and thought into the problem is more interesting then the entire series. This series can't pick a route and it's annoying. |
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| actually not a bad episode |
| probably the worst episode so far. genuinely can't stand how everyone in this show seems to be geniuses except Chika; the way the sensei was able to know what the meaning of those pictures could possibly be in mere seconds baffled me. for example. hyouka is fun because the knowledge of the characters are believable and it's not too far-fetched, while this show is the complete opposite. |
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