Is IMDb and RottenTomatoes worse than MAL?

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Yeah, let's talk about lack of Ozu and Ichikawa in a top about Western mainstream picks.

I'm disappointed as well with the lack of Berlanga, Fernán Gómez and Erice. What the hell.

On topic: at least the community is. The ratings are up to discussion.

Again not being in English means less ratings and a film has to have so many rating to be in the top 250. And how is the community worse than MAL?

I have actually been in the forums. A huge bunch of repetitive threads, lots of listing, very toxic trolls and multiple accounts, annoying attitudes both from fans and haters of stuff, etc. And yes, there are very interesting people out there and legit discussion but the same with MAL and at least in MAL when there are similar negative scenarios you get the impression that people are not serious and just hang around.

Nov 30, 2015 12:03 AM

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They both suck in different ways

I've been here way too long...

Nov 30, 2015 12:04 AM

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The Hunt 8.3/10
Django Unchained 8.5/10

This is a travesty.

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But that Dora rating though...

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Nope. Film elitists are easier to deal with.

They can be pretty savage sometimes, at least from what I've seen occasionally.

Nov 30, 2015 12:11 AM

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jal90 said:

Waifu_Strangler said:

Again not being in English means less ratings and a film has to have so many rating to be in the top 250. And how is the community worse than MAL?

I have actually been in the forums. A huge bunch of repetitive threads, lots of listing, very toxic trolls and multiple accounts, annoying attitudes both from fans and haters of stuff, etc. And yes, there are very interesting people out there and legit discussion but the same with MAL and at least in MAL when there are similar negative scenarios you get the impression that people are not serious and just hang around.

On MAL its impossible to have a good discussion at all. If I go to film general I can easily start up a real discussion and even the idiots generally have more interesting things to say than our idiots here. Most of the threads on MAL anime discussion are beyond idiotic and horrible and its rare to find any worth discussing in. The fact is its much easier to find people worth conversing with on IMDB than on MAL.

Nov 30, 2015 12:15 AM

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The Hunt 8.3/10
Django Unchained 8.5/10

This is a travesty.

Clannad: After Story has a 9.11 rating on MAL.

Nov 30, 2015 12:18 AM

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I have actually been in the forums. A huge bunch of repetitive threads, lots of listing, very toxic trolls and multiple accounts, annoying attitudes both from fans and haters of stuff, etc. And yes, there are very interesting people out there and legit discussion but the same with MAL and at least in MAL when there are similar negative scenarios you get the impression that people are not serious and just hang around.

On MAL its impossible to have a good discussion at all. If I go to film general I can easily start up a real discussion and even the idiots generally have more interesting things to say than our idiots here. Most of the threads on MAL anime discussion are beyond idiotic and horrible and its rare to find any worth discussing in. The fact is its much easier to find people worth conversing with on IMDB than on MAL.

Yeah, well, you don't even try dude, your threads are an example of that <3

And what about the threads on IMDb. "Rate this", "Am I the only one who...?", "See what I rated", "Is Nolan a hero?", "Here's my top", "Share your top10 of whatever", "Whatever film in the top250 is overrated". Yeah, quality stuff that promotes discussion.

On MAL you find interesting people as easily as just hanging around. On IMDb, all you can find is interesting posts because everything is so dispersed and diluted among the pile of shit it's no longer recognizable.

Not to mention that on MAL people actually interact in the threads.

Nov 30, 2015 12:22 AM

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Waifu_Strangler said:

On MAL its impossible to have a good discussion at all. If I go to film general I can easily start up a real discussion and even the idiots generally have more interesting things to say than our idiots here. Most of the threads on MAL anime discussion are beyond idiotic and horrible and its rare to find any worth discussing in. The fact is its much easier to find people worth conversing with on IMDB than on MAL.

Yeah, well, you don't even try dude, your threads are an example of that <3

And what about the threads on IMDb. "Rate this", "Am I the only one who...?", "See what I rated", "Is Nolan a hero?", "Here's my top", "Share your top10 of whatever", "Whatever film in the top250 is overrated". Yeah, quality stuff that promotes discussion.

On MAL you find interesting people as easily as just hanging around. On IMDb, all you can find is interesting posts because everything is so dispersed and diluted among the pile of shit it's no longer recognizable.

Every time I actually make smart thread on this damn site they don't go anywhere and they die off. I quit putting effort into them when I realized there was no point people prefer stupid threads here so they can complain about how stupid they are.

Saw a thread where someone asked what made Chinatown so great and lets be honest you'll never see a reply this good on MAL.

[Spoiler]

It's complicated, it's probably slightly different for everyone, and on repeat viewings you will see it more. The film is a deconstruction of the noir genre but also of American myths like those of the lone hero, rugged individualism, and the truth behind the construction of the country. It shows how the creation of the self-declared greatest democracy on earth was driven by the wealth and power of the elite with the aim of generating more wealth and power for the elite, all the time posing as a pluralised democracy.

It takes the notion of American self-confidence and projects it onto a seemingly competent hero-figure only to show how misplaced and naive that self-confidence is and how incompetent and impotent a hero can turn out to be when he is taken away from a fantasy setting and confronted with the cold, hard, unforgiving light of day. There are numerous references in the film to distorted vision, from the flaw in Evelyn's eye to the crushed glasses Jake finds in the salt water pond. The character of Gittes, the PI who is paid to look, to watch, to see things, and yet who is blind to his own shortcomings, blind to the consequences of his actions and ultimately blind to what is really going on until it is too late, is a representation of how America is encouraged to see itself, and what remains hidden from itself as a result of that skewed perspective, that distorted vision. Cross tells Gittes "you may think you know what you're dealing with, but believe me, you don't". If Gittes was brighter and less complacent he might have taken heed at the words of the monster sitting across from him, the untouchable one-man conglomerate, but his American-Hero syndrome, his belief in truth and justice and Hollywood endings, prevents him from doing so. The extent of Cross's ambition and the scale of his monstrousness is apparent only in retrospect, but is revealed in part from time to time. When Gittes asks Cross why he is doing what he is doing, what more he could possibly buy that he cannot already afford, his reply is chilling "The future, Mr Gittes, the future." That is what we are dealing with that we never imagined we would be dealing with.

It examines the psychology of a would-be hero, how motivations, like those of Gittes, are not necessarily driven by altruism but also by the promise of personal redemption, an almost selfish need to make amends to himself for something that happened to him previously and how that outlook, far from allowing him to move on, is exposed as another misjudgement leading to more catastrophe for both him and the other people involved. It deals with the idea that you cannot escape your past and how people can become stuck, psychologically, in their previous mistakes just as Gittes is metaphorically stuck in Chinatown, but also with the idea that despite this so many people don't learn from their past mistakes, become complacent about them and doom themselves to repeat them. The fact that the film is set in America's past helps to emphasise this and give it broader meaning. The mistakes of the past and the fallout from the psychological damage they inflict stays with you into the future.

Beyond this it is the sad, haunting story of childhoods destroyed, of flawed individuals struggling against uncontrollable circumstances, of the unconquerable, crushing weight of the machinery of capitalism, and yet it is told with a wit and watchability that are hard to match. The pacing is masterful, the score unforgettable, Nicholson and Dunaway are perfection, the era recreated painstakingly, the mood beautifully sombre, it contains one of the all time great movie villains portrayed by one of the great figures of twentieth century Hollywood and has amongst the finest and most meaningful final lines of any American movie.

For me at least this is probably about as close to perfection as a film can possibly get.

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These sites are full of Chris Nolan worshippers.

"Inception is more difficult than Transformers! BRILLIANT FILM"

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Nov 30, 2015 12:43 AM

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Waifu_Strangler said:
Saw a thread where someone asked what made Chinatown so great and lets be honest you'll never see a reply this good on MAL.

Pff. Check what Shocked does regularly in whatever thread from AD.

Nov 30, 2015 12:50 AM

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These sites are full of Chris Nolan worshippers.

"Inception is more difficult than Transformers! BRILLIANT FILM"

The Nolan Worshippers are IMDB's equivilant of trolls. I mean this place thinks Code Geass and AnoHana are brilliant.

Nov 30, 2015 1:14 AM

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one biggest isuues is no 6 how could people rate apiece of zionst propaganda so high

and lack of Ichikawa abd ozu to repsent japan is joke if i ever saw one IMDB know nothing its wrse than mal

Most of the classic Japanese films from the 50s, and 60s have an above 8 score the issue is being a foriegn film in subtitles equals less ratings but most of them get really get reviespws and again good scores. Harakiri for example has an 8.7 rating and The Human Condition films have 85 and 8.8 ratings but not enough people voted for them to be eligible in the top 250.

for critrion colletros in the us they just did a set f all of ozu's films

jal90 said:

DateYutaka said:
and lack of Ichikawa abd ozu to repsent japan is joke if i ever saw one IMDB know nothing its wrse than mal

Yeah, let's talk about lack of Ozu and Ichikawa in a top about Western mainstream picks.

I'm disappointed as well with the lack of Berlanga, Fernán Gómez and Erice. What the hell.

On topic: at least the community is. The ratings are up to discussion.

while i like kurosawa on critcal level ozu was was better film maker by far

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Nov 30, 2015 1:17 AM

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Nope. Film elitists are easier to deal with.

lol no were not im a cinematic elitist and i for one hate the imbd top 250 im compre to the top 100 on mal to a ,uch larger extent

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Nov 30, 2015 1:19 AM

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DateYutaka said:

Waifu_Strangler said:

Most of the classic Japanese films from the 50s, and 60s have an above 8 score the issue is being a foriegn film in subtitles equals less ratings but most of them get really get reviespws and again good scores. Harakiri for example has an 8.7 rating and The Human Condition films have 85 and 8.8 ratings but not enough people voted for them to be eligible in the top 250.

for critrion colletros in the us they just did a set f all of ozu's films

jal90 said:

Yeah, let's talk about lack of Ozu and Ichikawa in a top about Western mainstream picks.

I'm disappointed as well with the lack of Berlanga, Fernán Gómez and Erice. What the hell.

On topic: at least the community is. The ratings are up to discussion.

while i like kurosawa on critcal level ozu was was better film maker by far

It's still not going to reach too wide an audience because its old and not in English. Only real film buffs will watch an Ozu film the casuals likely have no clue what Criterion even is.

Nov 30, 2015 1:22 AM

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jal90 said:

Waifu_Strangler said:
Saw a thread where someone asked what made Chinatown so great and lets be honest you'll never see a reply this good on MAL.

Pff. Check what Shocked does regularly in whatever thread from AD.

He is kinda an exception though.

Nov 30, 2015 1:30 AM

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Waifu_Strangler said:

DateYutaka said:

for critrion colletros in the us they just did a set f all of ozu's films

while i like kurosawa on critcal level ozu was was better film maker by far

It's still not going to reach too wide an audience because its old and not in English. Only real film buffs will watch an Ozu film the casuals likely have no clue what Criterion even is.

hey if you wish to know my ratungs g =f the 103 movies from the top 250 iv seen just ask since over all i think we wu;d agree on most of them

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Nov 30, 2015 1:35 AM

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DateYutaka said:

Waifu_Strangler said:

DateYutaka said:

Waifu_Strangler said:

DateYutaka said:

Waifu_Strangler said:

DateYutaka said:

Waifu_Strangler said:

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DrGeroCreation said:
WOW the artistic and unique Tales of the Night rated a MEASELY 6.8 the same score as that boring piece of shit the Sky Crawlers. They must be insane.

On MAL Clannad After Story has a higher score than DBZ.

That's bad but not as bad.

I've never seen Tales of the night or Sky Crawlers but at least with IMDB classics such as The Godfather, One Flew over the Cuckoos nest, and Apocalypse now are among the highest rated movies on there while nothing that old would ever make in on MALs top 30.

link me to the top 30 and i will cast my eyes over it

Assuming you mean the IMDB top 30. Here the top 250. It's not perfect I mean you have shit like The Dark Knight and Fight Club up there but there's far more good stuff up there than can be said for MAL. Greatest movie of all time is number 20 which is much higher than Ashita no Joe is on MAL.

http://www.imdb.com/chart/top

one biggest isuues is no 6 how could people rate apiece of zionst propaganda so high

and lack of Ichikawa abd ozu to repsent japan is joke if i ever saw one IMDB know nothing its wrse than mal

Most of the classic Japanese films from the 50s, and 60s have an above 8 score the issue is being a foriegn film in subtitles equals less ratings but most of them get really get reviespws and again good scores. Harakiri for example has an 8.7 rating and The Human Condition films have 85 and 8.8 ratings but not enough people voted for them to be eligible in the top 250.

for critrion colletros in the us they just did a set f all of ozu's films

jal90 said:

DateYutaka said:
and lack of Ichikawa abd ozu to repsent japan is joke if i ever saw one IMDB know nothing its wrse than mal

Yeah, let's talk about lack of Ozu and Ichikawa in a top about Western mainstream picks.

I'm disappointed as well with the lack of Berlanga, Fernán Gómez and Erice. What the hell.

On topic: at least the community is. The ratings are up to discussion.

while i like kurosawa on critcal level ozu was was better film maker by far

It's still not going to reach too wide an audience because its old and not in English. Only real film buffs will watch an Ozu film the casuals likely have no clue what Criterion even is.

hey if you wish to know my ratungs g =f the 103 movies from the top 250 iv seen just ask since over all i think we wu;d agree on most of them

Probably would though tbh there are a lot of movies on there I'm ashamed to say I haven't seen :/

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But that Dora rating though...

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Nope. Film elitists are easier to deal with.

They can be pretty savage sometimes, at least from what I've seen occasionally.

Only if you talk shit about Forrest Gump or Toy Story.

If anything, I think the Academy Volunteers are the worst in the film community.

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Waifu_Strangler said:

Eminem said:
The Hunt 8.3/10
Django Unchained 8.5/10

This is a travesty.

Clannad: After Story has a 9.11 rating on MAL.

That's the worst thing I've ever seen.

Nov 30, 2015 5:36 AM

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IMDB has without a shred of doubt some of the worst reviews I've ever read (and that says a lot as I've read a number of MAL reviews). Take this little gem for example (it's for The Maze Runner):

Reviews aside it's not a horrible site as I like the layout and the sheer size of the DB (if a film isn't there, there's a likelihood that it doesn't exist).

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Nov 30, 2015 5:54 AM

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In my opinion Rotten Tomatoes is worse because they never seem satisfied with any kind of movie.

Nov 30, 2015 5:59 AM

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only been on imdb.

i still cant post in imdb because apparently my cellphone number is not getting picked up by it

toxicity is pretty much in every movie/celebrity's page but you can kind of argue that in every subforum on MAL too.

imdb is much bigger though, and thus its easier to see toxicity.

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Not much worse than MAL. I tend to agree with the overall ratings for IMDB, but RottenTomatos is too try hard at being elitist.

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Nov 30, 2015 7:45 AM

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RedRoseFring said:
Not much worse than MAL. I tend to agree with the overall ratings for IMDB, but RottenTomatos is too try hard at being elitist.

expain how rt is eletist

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Nov 30, 2015 9:15 AM

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Are you serious? Nothing is worse than MAL, lol.

Nov 30, 2015 9:21 AM

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I don't know of any good active reviewers on MAL, so I would assume they're a bit better.

Nov 30, 2015 9:26 AM

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Are you serious? Nothing is worse than MAL, lol.

toxicity on the internet is universal pretty much on any large sized forum

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Nov 30, 2015 9:27 AM

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Can't believe Ni Hao Kai Lan is lower than Dora the Explorer on IMDb

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Nov 30, 2015 9:50 AM

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If being a cinema elitist means sitting down and watching a lot of boring French art house films, I'd rather be a filthy casual.

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CaimTheJoyful said:
If being a cinema elitist means sitting down and watching a lot of boring French art house films, I'd rather be a filthy casual.

yea that shit is boring fam. Transformers 4 lyfe

Nov 30, 2015 9:53 AM

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PoeticJustice said:

CaimTheJoyful said:
If being a cinema elitist means sitting down and watching a lot of boring French art house films, I'd rather be a filthy casual.

yea that shit is boring fam. Transformers 4 lyfe

I only got interested in Transformers for Megan Fox

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Nov 30, 2015 9:56 AM

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I don't know of any good active reviewers on MAL, so I would assume they're a bit better.

Have been lurking a lot on Imdb and I can confirm the forums are worse than MAL, probably due to it attracting more ''normal'' people. On the upside I think they are more people who know their shit on imdb, since some of them actually study film making.

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i still cant post in imdb because apparently my cellphone number is not getting picked up by it

Lol same.

Nov 30, 2015 10:46 AM

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The ratings don't really bother me, if people have hive mentality taste well fuck em it doesn't matter I'll still give my rating based on an honest opinion whether it counts or not. I've had nothing to do with rotten tomatoes, but I left the IMDB because of the fuckheads in the discussion forums. Rateyourmusic (soon to be sonemic for some inexplicable reason) is being developed into an all purpose music / film / games rating and reviewing site (a bit like listal but not a total failure) so they might end up being just as awful given the caliber of elitist faggotry that place enjoys.

Nov 30, 2015 10:52 AM

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Waifu_Strangler said:
Clannad: After Story has a 9.11 rating on MAL.

>9:11

IS THIS A CONSPIRACY?????

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Nov 30, 2015 10:57 AM

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Waifu_Strangler said:
Clannad: After Story has a 9.11 rating on MAL.

>9:11

IS THIS A CONSPIRACY?????

I always thought Nagisa was an allegory for Nagasaki. Maybe I'm full of shit though.

Nov 30, 2015 11:01 AM

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CaimTheJoyful said:
If being a cinema elitist means sitting down and watching a lot of boring French art house films, I'd rather be a filthy casual.

Nah, not watching that mainstream shit. I prefer silent black comedy films from Uzbekistan, now that's quality cinema.

Nov 30, 2015 11:02 AM

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Yeah. There are lots of idiots who will make threads complaining about some comedy film being just that. No different from MAL or GameFAQs really.

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RedRoseFring said:
Not much worse than MAL. I tend to agree with the overall ratings for IMDB, but RottenTomatos is too try hard at being elitist.

expain how rt is eletist

no one has yet explain how RT is eletist

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CaimTheJoyful said:
If being a cinema elitist means sitting down and watching a lot of boring French art house films, I'd rather be a filthy casual.

i hate the term art house so much thats like saying all cinema is not art

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Nov 30, 2015 11:08 AM

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the 4chan, liveleak, and bestgore communies are worse.

bestgore...gee who knew. Old 4chan (rip) used to be paradise. Or the worst place ever invented depending on your outlook.

Nov 30, 2015 12:42 PM

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Waifu_Strangler said:

TheBrainintheJar said:
These sites are full of Chris Nolan worshippers.

"Inception is more difficult than Transformers! BRILLIANT FILM"

The Nolan Worshippers are IMDB's equivilant of trolls. I mean this place thinks Code Geass and AnoHana are brilliant.

They're serious. They're impressed by how everyone had suits in Inception.

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Rotten Tomatoes tells me that most of my favorite movies are bad. :(
They only like my favorite cartoon movies like Mulan, The Little Mermaid, Finding Nemo, etc.

Nov 30, 2015 2:49 PM

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MAL is in denial of how truly bad it is.

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Waifu_Strangler said:
MAL is in denial of how truly bad it is.

well its equal as bad as IMDb it seems

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Waifu_Strangler said:
MAL is in denial of how truly bad it is.

I see tons of posts about how bad it is and y'know...I've seen a lot worse

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Waifu_Strangler said:
MAL is in denial of how truly bad it is.

I see tons of posts about how bad it is and y'know...I've seen a lot worse

http://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1456976

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Animestic said:

jal90 said:

Pff. Check what Shocked does regularly in whatever thread from AD.

He is kinda an exception though.

So is the example Waifu_Strangler quoted. And in MAL there's plenty of people perfectly capable of writing a reply as good as that one. Shocked just happens to be the most constant one.

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jal90 said:

Animestic said:

He is kinda an exception though.

So is the example Waifu_Strangler quoted. And in MAL there's plenty of people perfectly capable of writing a reply as good as that one. Shocked just happens to be the most constant one.

I've seen plenty of different people on IMDB write posts like that.

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