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| For people disappointed Yuta's "not trans" He technically is. Just not from a genetic cause. Sci-fi trans. EDIT: Oh, and don't reply if you're just going to hate on the discussion itself. That's just the definition of being a dick. |
| yep, that's what I've tried to explain |
| I like how they incorporated the body switch, characterizing the children in flashbacks back when we were confused now feels very fresh and will make a big impact when the time comes. Each episode just further proves how well written this is. |
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| This episode explained the rest of what was actually going on during the first, which cleared up a few things for me. The body switch was intriguing, although their past still seems somewhat vague. Curious on what will happen next. |
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vivan said: animefan8800 said: Yes, his original body is Pine and Teraoka is most likely Guriko in Pine's body.So Yuuta was originally the blonde boy but swapped into the girl he is now 9 years ago. So was the blonde guy on the bus his original body? Or maybe his original body had white hair now that I look again? Gah! So confusing, but then it's still fun to watch. :D Guriko/ Teraoka called him Pine when they fell in the river in the 1st episode |
AnnickJun 11, 2015 6:20 PM
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 So this confirms the body switch. Makes sense why Mikatan didn't really raise any suspicicions since she acted nice all the time...because she had Chiyoko's spirit. So that means Guriko is actually in Pine's body (who is Teraoka). Wonder what's up with her then, since she's the leader of a group who wants the asteroid to destroy the world. Was she always that fucked up in the head? We also learn that Yuuta's sister is that girl who he woke up next to in the cabin. Now we know he was adopted into that family. Sakonke5 said: Also Chiyoko doesn't seem to recognize her own body .. maybe because it's cross-dressed with short hair now? or maybe she doesn't remember about the swap at all... It seems that the 3 of them got separated after that accident. Then what about Yuuta (Pine)? he doesn't remember that this is Guriko's body because it's been 9 years and they grew up... or he does remember and that's why he acts so awkward and shy around her... Ahh so many questions .. I can't wait for the next episode .. I love this anime so far! :D They probably forgot. They look way different than when they were kids, especially Yuuta. Changed Chiyoko's looks into a boy. He didn't even remember that they were in that facility together. He probably suppressed the trauma once he got adopted. Jorjz said: To sum up this episode, Yuta has only 10 days to stop the asteroid, VR-1 from exterminating humanity and change history, but before that, Yuta must not break Chiranosuke's code without permission, has to bond with the tenants just like the previous timeline so they work together, needs to figure out the mystery about the Qmay Terrorist Group, the NSA, and the superior W, and did I mention that he has failed six billion times and this is his last chance? You took the last chance thing out of context. It's the last chance for that CURRENT Yuuta that's in the body. Because if he fails, he'll be in his body when the asteroid hits and he'll die. But the Yuuta who is currently a spirit will travel back in time again. Hence why Chiranosuke said he was already working on another plan, and then said, the next you. |
| Updated the list: http://imgur.com/a/8bTji#0 Nothing really interesting except Rabura's real name is Ranko. Jonesy974 said: So that means Guriko is actually in Pine's body (who is Teraoka). Wonder what's up with her then, since she's the leader of a group who wants the asteroid to destroy the world. Was she always that fucked up in the head? I believe she had no choice. Pine was found in the river by Iridatsu grandpa. Ishigata saved Chiyoko and been at run with her for almost an year, then Qmei found them. But looks like Guriko was captured by Qmei pursuers from river. I wanted to say something about Uber. Uber is an ability to break limits of body infected with H-virus. So, Uber is in mind and working for spirits, but H-virus is in body. You, as i willing to suppose, can't bring the virus to body through the body. THEN! Rabura is infected... I again tried to find where bus crashed, but to no avail. I wonder how much of truth Chiranosuke said. I still don't believe in "Save Humanity" plan. It's not the only one goal. |
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bastek66 said: I love when speculah is confirmed Bodyswitch of trio of kids confirmed. Yuuta is Pine etc No need for tumblr gender shit anymore. Then I'm confused. Wouldn't that make Pine the actual MC of these series? Albeit, incognito, of course. But being a male conscious knowingly stuck 24/7 for years on a female body... Damn, must be tough. And that cat must be millions of years old to have seen the same week happen that many times... Must be a god or something. |
| what do you think happens when they all return to their body and Yuta and Mikatan ends up to together... Yuta/Pine will be dating his former body which is Chiyoko's body |
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aerolyt said: 8 = infinity. Three 9's = 999. ZERO ESCAPE and INFINITY series sequel confirmed :D6,373,153,741 is factored as 89×8009×8941 which I think is cool because each has an 8 and a 9. YMMS said: After seeing this I've being trying... Followed Tomei expressroad from Nagoya to Tokyo (an even found this place which is basically on every photo of "Tomei expressroad bridge").I again tried to find where bus crashed, but to no avail. This is what I was thinking about: 1) it should be Tomei expressoroad (there're only few tollroads and why would they use others?). 2) There's railroad right next to it, and, obviously, a river. 3) Toll gate might be there. According to wiki there's only one toll gate, near Tokyo. All others are located on entrances to the highway. Plus it's location was way too convinient. |
| That chicken and egg paradox is still left untouched. And this episode wasn't funny when it was trying to be. Everything besides the body switch and Yuuta being adopted was pointless, why should he be worried if his ghost sees pantsu? Everything was fine in the previous timeline without his physical body interfering. Inconsistent, now they're just writing excuses for bad comedy and boob grabs. Back down to a six. |
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| so i guess it's confirmed that yuuta's technically trans !! (even though it's more like sci-fi stuff) at least people should stop using the wrong pronouns now it was pretty obvious that the three kids had switched bodies tbh |
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BlurredVision18 said: That chicken and egg paradox is still left untouched. What do you mean? BlurredVision18 said: why should he be worried if his ghost sees pantsu? Everything was fine in the previous timeline without his physical body interfering. Chiranosuke said that BODY will die, if spirit sees pantsu twice. Even if mentioned body refers to spirit body, then spirit will die and Kenji will lose his comrade in distress. vivan said: After seeing this I've being trying... Followed Tomei expressroad from Nagoya to Tokyo (an even found this place which is basically on every photo of "Tomei expressroad bridge"). Looks like this search may be futile. It's a shame that i haven't seen anything about this on other sites. |
| I know that my English isn't good so, please, bear with me. |
| Heh. So, I guess Yuuta tries to keep Chiyoko's body as masculine as he can, hence the short hair and boyish clothes. That was a clever twist. This show is actually really well-thought out. It's come a long way from the zany, bizarre and otaku-bait first couple of episodes. It's a shame, because it probably turned quite a few people away from it, thinking there was nothing else there. And while all the fanservice and hijinks are still here, at least there's a story, and it's decently written, too. Still doesn't belong on Noitamina, though. |
YMMS said: In one timeline you have Yuta and his spirit from previous timeline. That brings the question - how this loop started?BlurredVision18 said: That chicken and egg paradox is still left untouched. What do you mean? If loop is stable this could be explained... Like this is a loop without start and end - it just exists. |
| Good episode with a bunch of explanations. Interesting to have seen the flash back of switching bodies . |
vivan said: In one timeline you have Yuta and his spirit from previous timeline. That brings the question - how this loop started? If loop is stable this could be explained... Like this is a loop without start and end - it just exists. Chiranosuke could start it and be first Kenji. Chiranosuke is from the future, that's almost undoubtedly so. He wanted fail-proof loop to make sure his plan will be complete, he did research on when Yuuta was in Uber, leaped through time and entered body. He doesn't need to stay in it, just push Pine's spirit out, so if on higher spirit levels is an ability to possess ANYone even on shortest amount of time that will do. Or if Pine has some medium qualities. If Chiranosuke= Pine that would make things much easier. |
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| "You can't change history without my permission." That cat is starting to annoy me, it's bad enough that he kills any initiative Yuuta had to solve the problem himself, because it's more exciting when the MC is told to do something or nothing right? And now you are killing all the fun for me by telling me this is his last chance, which is so vague given the way it's explained I don't know whether I should take this seriously. Please, Uchikoshi, stop telling me how to have fun. "You can't have fun without my permission."  Here, my feeble attempt to get back at this anime. |
| This is getting very interesting! Plot twist: the cat is the real villain of the show, just kidding. |
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YMMS said: THEN! Rabura is infected... Teraoka Stabs her in the first ep |
| The episode can not meet the expectations that I had done, the narrative is highly messy and not very lucid sometimes; during the story I was to think of what I had seen and I could not follow the logic of the story. So yet another mess also seen in previous episodes. Drawings and animations in the media as quality; to better understand the whole, I should review all the episodes come out in full above. |
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| What if Qmay are the good guys and the goverment really lied. And is Guriko's spirit really the one who attack them before the astroid fell and why? Also why did the previous Yuta attack the guy with Rabura who is with the government and also the one who warned them that the astroid is real |
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| and there it is the most obvious thing lots of people guessed. the spirits were swapped. the way some people jumped to conclusions so fast with yu being transgender.. when the spirit swap made the most sense people really gotta stop comparing crazy anime stories with real life circumstances interesting how many yuuta failed before. |
| PLOT TWIST: Guriko, Pine and Chiyoko were being held by Lieblich |
| I'm not getting enough vegetables. I'm just not getting enough vegetables. |
| I have to wonder what on earth drove Guriko to almost killing her own body with Chiyoko inside... Also a bit amusing that Chiyoko is essentially in love with her own body. As for his looking more like a boy than a girl while in Chiyoko's body, I'm sure they could look just as feminine if they intended to. |
| This show keeps getting better every week! :) |
sirflimflam said: I have to wonder what on earth drove Guriko to almost killing her own body with Chiyoko inside... She uberfied too much |
| he's back to his body and holy shit there were so many ones before him and does his sister know the future or what? |
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AaaaaaKun said: that or the cat i incredibly suspicious and might not have the bets intentions by leaving yuuta in the dark"You can't change history without my permission." That cat is starting to annoy me, it's bad enough that he kills any initiative Yuuta had to solve the problem himself, because it's more exciting when the MC is told to do something or nothing right? |
Immahnoob said: Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit, tokiyashiro said: Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me |
| Pine is changing events little by little |
| This episode actually justified how Yuta was acting, despite being female. After all, he originally was male, but forced into a female's body. That's why he still gets aroused with panties. |
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| Very confusing but still a good episode. Yuuta is actually Pine but in Chiyoko's body (female) and the other 2 also changed places 9 years ago. Changing history is a big deal for that cat! 4/5. |
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YMMS said: BlurredVision18 said: why should he be worried if his ghost sees pantsu? Everything was fine in the previous timeline without his physical body interfering. Chiranosuke said that BODY will die, if spirit sees pantsu twice. Even if mentioned body refers to spirit body, then spirit will die and Kenji will lose his comrade in distress. But then the spirit will go back in time like Yuuta did in the first couple episodes and avoid pantsu himself. Yuuta's interference with his physical body wasn't needed before nor again this time. Why didn't his physical form freak out before and barge into the room? Also, why doesn't Yuuta just explain this all to his spirit self and say, "Hey, you're gonna get a chance to take my place and fix the timeline, so pay close attention to details of the intruders, follow them to know where they are at, and try to raise your spirit energy as much as possible, cause you retain your S.E. when you come back to this body." Because the cat says not to? That's fishy as fuck. The cat has an angle, he's the bad guy trying to push his agenda. Hmmm.... |
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BlurredVision18 said: Our view is fixed to the only one Yuuta. See:But then the spirit will go back in time like Yuuta did in the first couple episodes and avoid pantsu himself. Yuuta's interference with his physical body wasn't needed before nor again this time. Why didn't his physical form freak out before and barge into the room? Spirit sees pantsu twice Body dies (current Yuuta) Chiranosuke sends spirit back Body isn't dead yet, but it is not the same one in some way. And even if Yuuta understands that there will be more of him if he fail, but nevertheless, does he want to die? Well, that's shitty explanation. How about to go back to VN mode? You now playing Yuuta in body, spirit sees pantsu twice and you die, thus a bad end. You can't continue until you reload savegame and find a way to avoid bad end. How? Spirit should not see pantsu twice. Well, that's better. BlurredVision18 said: Of course, cat is fishy from very first episode. Yes, because he says it's a wrong way. If you do not comply he'll just kick you in the guts. Chiranosuke has some plan, it's unknown to us, though.Also, why doesn't Yuuta just explain this all to his spirit self and say, "Hey, you're gonna get a chance to take my place and fix the timeline, so pay close attention to details of the intruders, follow them to know where they are at, and try to raise your spirit energy as much as possible, cause you retain your S.E. when you come back to this body." Because the cat says not to? That's fishy as fuck. The cat has an angle, he's the bad guy trying to push his agenda. Hmmm.... What's one of most common things in Nakazawa's and Uchikoshi's works? That's why it's hard to decide who is reliable narrator, if any. But i can't think that way, because i'll just go full paranoid and start to wonder if YUUTA existed in the first place. |
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| A bigger question, is how Yuuta got through any school with his condition lol. Any time he changes his clothes, like for PE, he would be surrounded by girls changing as well. With how he seems to get off on any girls underwear, including little girls, seems like he himself doesn't wear girls underwear, otherwise he would set himself off, or at the very least, start desensitizing to it. It seems that there is no way in society that he would be able to properly function given his body and his condition; he must of been uberifying all the time against his will. If/when he solves the loop, whats going to happen then? Two of his spirit will exist, and only one body. He will have to somehow explain to his pissed off spirit, that the person in his body is himself; assuming he believes, there is no way he will accept that. Since what is assumed to by the Pine physical body is dead, technically they could work at patching that up, and giving that body to the second him, but that seems foolish. Fusing the spirits would be best, but is too simple and lackluster. |
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Mormegil said: This show is actually really well-thought out. It's come a long way from the zany, bizarre and otaku-bait first couple of episodes. It's a shame, because it probably turned quite a few people away from it, thinking there was nothing else there. And while all the fanservice and hijinks are still here, at least there's a story, and it's decently written, too. After shows like Haruhi, Ga-Rei Zero, Higurashi and many more, I've learned never to judge an anime based on its first episode. I can understand why people do it, but I feel that it's unfair to the show. While some anime are episodic, there are many shows that work with an overarching narrative and the first episode is usually nothing more than an introduction. Giving something up after the first episode would be tantamount to watching the first few minutes of a movie to determine if it is worth watching. Similarly I don't like the idea of rating and reviewing shows on an episode by episode basis, but that's another topic for another time. I'd also challenge you on the matter of hijinks and fan-service as markers of bad quality shows and otaku as people with no taste, but I'll just take that as personal taste. (^.^;) |
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NotJizzyHitler said: Sakonke5 said: please stop with this schlock already, we dont need this SJW agenda pushing bullshit brought up every punchline episodeFor those happy or disappointed that ''Yuuta is not a transgender character'' He actually is .. a boy's soul in a girl's body. The definition of transgender may actually be more complicated than this but still... He has a woman's body but he can't act ''feminine'' or have a ''feminine gender'' and he feels more comfortable with male clothing. that makes him transgender until he returns to his real body. The difference from a real life transgender person is that he is actually lucky enough to have a real male body to return to, as it appears that his gender identity is more ''masculine'' than ''feminine'' so it is more comfortable for him to have a male's body (well the male one is the original body anyways xD ). Then again there are some people who don't mind their biological sex and act ''feminine'' or ''masculine'' or both and they don't have the need to change their assigned sex to match it with their gender identity. I'm using quotation marks for femininity and masculinity because what is considered feminine and masculine may be different depending the culture or society or even the individual we are talking about. So talking about trans people and gender is "the SJW Agenda" now? Y'all get so upset whenever people even try to discuss it that it's hilarious. Are you 10? I personally don't even see any reason to believe that Yuuta being trans is even up for debate anymore but you guys are even more pathetic lol. Just ignore discussion about "sjw shit" and focus on the shit that interests you. No need to announce to the world how edgy you are about gender-related issues because "tumblr iz bad." |
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| Well lucky for him Chiyoko is flat chested. |
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| Over 6 billion failures? That's one heck of a time-loop. As expected, time travel immediately makes things extremely complicated and confusing. Also, while I'm hoping that those 3 kids will get swapped back to their original bodies, they actually grew up with those bodies and made a life with them (like Chiyoko fulfilling her dream to be an idol using Guriko's body...). |
YMMS said: BlurredVision18 said: Our view is fixed to the only one Yuuta. See:But then the spirit will go back in time like Yuuta did in the first couple episodes and avoid pantsu himself. Yuuta's interference with his physical body wasn't needed before nor again this time. Why didn't his physical form freak out before and barge into the room? Spirit sees pantsu twice Body dies (current Yuuta) Chiranosuke sends spirit back Body isn't dead yet, but it is not the same one in some way. And even if Yuuta understands that there will be more of him if he fail, but nevertheless, does he want to die? You missed my point, "And even if Yuuta understands that there will be more of him if he fail, but nevertheless, does he want to die?" that's exactly what I'm saying. His physical body should have interfered in the first time we saw him pass out after seeing Ito's pantsu in Ep 1, and again after he split from Ito's room the second time and saw Mikatan's pantsu, but instead he went back and avoided it himself as a spirit without interference from his own physical self. If everytime he goes back in time he starts anew memory from the bus incident, he would interfere everytime. Not just for the sake of narrative. |
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| A lot makes more sense now especially why he gets excited by viewing underwear, really interesting development with some great backstory so let's see what's next! |
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vivan said: YMMS said: In one timeline you have Yuta and his spirit from previous timeline. That brings the question - how this loop started?What do you mean? If loop is stable this could be explained... Like this is a loop without start and end - it just exists. THat's what I was thinking aswell, it's already happened before (6 billion times apparently) So I guess the blonde boy is the Yuuta (female body), (reason why it's a male look) that we've been observing the entire time, the current blonde guy is Chiyo (male body) ... hence the female appearance and the original Yuuta is now stuck in Chiyo's body (still female body). So actually Guriko (original blonde boy) is the male protagonist ... I hope I've got this right, can someone confirm? (I might be thinking completely wrong about this) But dang ... 6 billion tries already, surprised the cat hasn't gotten bored already (flashbacks towards Haruhi's Endless Eight episodes) |
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| Jesus! 6 billion restarts. lol So my original thought that Yuta is a boy is actually correct and last episode just fucked with me. It was weird that Guriko and Chiyoko were shown in water helping Yuta(Pine). Funny how Mikatan(Chiyoko) has been looking at her own body this whole time. With that said...Mikatan has nice oppai and she was touching herself. lol |
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| If this whole thing has failed several billion times, you'd think they'd go ahead and let him change the past however so that everything can work out right... |
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