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Mar 17, 2018 9:09 PM
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While the animation and music was good, this "Nakama" power shit feels fake. That's not Goku. When he said "this is OUR power" I felt sick.

What made Goku different from other typical shounen MCs is that while he cares for his friends and family, he is pretty selfish and wants to be the strongest just because he wants to be. Not to protect his nakama and all the other typical stuff shounen MCs spew. For me, this isn't the Goku that Akira wrote and envisioned. I think the writers messed up Goku's character.

Am I the only one that feels this way?
Mar 17, 2018 9:29 PM
One more episode and this cashgrab anime will be over. Jiren edgy. 1/5
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Mar 17, 2018 9:31 PM
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BEST FIGHT in the entirety of Dragonball in terms of action. This was just beautiful, gave me that Boros vs Saitama vibe. Jiren was like fuck Nakama power lmao
Mar 17, 2018 9:34 PM
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Intense! Super intense! I enjoyed seeing Jiren getting beaten up lol and it felt odd listening to Jiren yelling. Jiren has lost his cool. He's not likable anymore as he was when he was first introduced.

I knew Frieza was gonna show up sooner because he hasn't fallen off the broken stage yet, but seeing 17 alive was pretty shocking. That's what I was not expecting. Is Frieza gonna be more of a team player now? xD

It's hard to imagine that DBS is going to end in the next episode. Well, I really can't wait to see how the Tournament of Power will end, tbh. I saw in the preview that the two Zenos are descending down from their seats. And I wonder if there's going to be another twist at the final episode, haha! :D Final episode new character, perhaps? :P
Mar 17, 2018 9:34 PM
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nakama/friendship power is too strong of a power up even Goku uses it now lol
Mar 17, 2018 9:37 PM
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Aoiyasha said:
While the animation and music was good, this "Nakama" power shit feels fake. That's not Goku. When he said "this is OUR power" I felt sick.

What made Goku different from other typical shounen MCs is that while he cares for his friends and family, he is pretty selfish and wants to be the strongest just because he wants to be. Not to protect his nakama and all the other typical stuff shounen MCs spew. For me, this isn't the Goku that Akira wrote and envisioned. I think the writers messed up Goku's character.

Am I the only one that feels this way?


It’s true that Goku only decided to be strong for himself but Goku has always gain some type of power ups when it comes to protecting his friends ever since he was little. Remember with General Tao? Piccolo? Vegeta? Frieza? Beerus? With Cell, he never had the intention to win because his faith was in his son. With Buu, well everyone was already fucking lol. Goku is selfish in his own way but if you mess with his friends/family, he will ger his power up in m
Mar 17, 2018 9:40 PM

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The Shounen bs are too much even for Dragon Ball on this episode OMG its hurt.

17 as expected survive how people surprised by this? just look at how many plot armor on last few episode.

This is me on last few episode od Super
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Mar 17, 2018 9:47 PM

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angry goku
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Mar 17, 2018 9:47 PM
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when Jiren releases her power and when the Kokun supposedly reaches the limit? those shadows .. ?? Are not they the enemy that Jiren fears? Is it inside Goku? , "Jiren's enemy" is the reason why Goku became strong?
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When Goku got hit in the back by that purple shade I was convinced it was Frieza that wanted to finally get revenge for all the times Goku and his gang have humilated him and ruined his plans.

It would have been a colossal twist, but I guess at the end it just was not. Also 17's return comes a tad anticlimactic, it kinda ruined the emotion of his sacrifice moment.

Also I'm worried about the final episode. I thought the fight was going to end now, because I don't know how are they gonna wrap everything up and show every moment lef to be shown (Jiren beat, U11 getting erased, the Super Dragon Balls wish for the winning U, and coming back to Earth, all in just 20 minutes) it's gonna feel definitely rushed =/ that's why I was hoping Jiren was gonna be pushed off now, in order to give the proper time for everything else in the last chapter.

I can't imagine how are they gonna properly develop all this remaining moments in such a little time span in a convincing way.

Aoiyasha said:
While the animation and music was good, this "Nakama" power shit feels fake. That's not Goku. When he said "this is OUR power" I felt sick.

What made Goku different from other typical shounen MCs is that while he cares for his friends and family, he is pretty selfish and wants to be the strongest just because he wants to be. Not to protect his nakama and all the other typical stuff shounen MCs spew. For me, this isn't the Goku that Akira wrote and envisioned. I think the writers messed up Goku's character.

Am I the only one that feels this way?


We all know that Goku loves getting stronger and fighting enemies that represent a challenge to him, that he likes beating them to feel he has surpassed himself once again, but that's just ONE of his motivations. Or more precisely, that would be his only motivation in fights that do not involve any type of risk to his family and friends integrity, because it's not like he just doesn't give a shit if his family and friends die or disappear in case he loses to the enemy. Fighting because he feels he has the duty to protect them, or because he want's to avenge them, have always been part of his motivations too, if not, he would not have lost his shit and would have not trained very hard in Dragon Ball when Krilin was killed by Piccolo, would have not got super saiyan for the first time in Z and would have not got pissed off by Frieza when he blew up Krillin in front of him (he had even yelled him "for everyone you have killed, I'm gonna beat you!" when he met him, and clearly wanted to arrive to the fighting zone asap because he knew Krilin and Gohan were in danger), during the Cell battle he knew he was not storng enough to beat him, and if he only cared about fighting for selfish purposes, he would not have trained Gohan and let the whole Earth's population get erased, he does take decisions in order to protect the ones he loves.

In this case, once again, there is the risk that his family and friends may get erased if he loses, so it's natural that they are part of their motivations to beat Jiren.

Mozhd said:
Episode 130 was hands down the greatest episode in Dragon Ball history. Jesus my heart can't take it.


Episodes 95 & 286 of DBZ are still the greatest to me.
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Mar 17, 2018 10:03 PM

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This episode was fantastic in pretty much every way that makes Super fun to watch. Crisp animation, awesome sense of scale, and pure fighting for a huge part of the episode. I give it a 5/5.

Also called the spoilers being bogus. They wouldn't do that on the finale the series has been building up to since the beginning. Some of them were right, but not in the ways it seemed they would be.

As a side note, not sure what people who complain about plot armor are talking about. Dragon Ball as a franchise has had shiny glowing plot armor since day 1. I don't know why someone who doesn't like that would still be watching 500 episodes later.
Mar 17, 2018 10:06 PM

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How are you guys seriously liking this episode? The power of friendship thing is so cliche and boring. How exactly the fuck is Goku still powering up and "keep getting faster"? This arc has the most amount of asspulls in the whole series and that's saying a lot. There are some cool scenes with actual good drawings but generally the art style is inconsistent af. Lots of gifs and ugly explosions. The worst part still has to be 17 coming back for no fucking reason. It completely ruined his sacrifice and makes no sense. I honestly don't know how you guys can still defend this. How much of your brain do you have to turn off while watching to not question dumb shit like that?
Mar 17, 2018 10:15 PM

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How are you guys seriously liking this episode? The power of friendship thing is so cliche and boring. How exactly the fuck is Goku still powering up and "keep getting faster"? This arc has the most amount of asspulls in the whole series and that's saying a lot. There are some cool scenes with actual good drawings but generally the art style is inconsistent af. Lots of gifs and ugly explosions. The worst part still has to be 17 coming back for no fucking reason. It completely ruined his sacrifice and makes no sense. I honestly don't know how you guys can still defend this. How much of your brain do you have to turn off while watching to not question dumb shit like that?


Man, honestly at this point, who cares?

DBS has been dissapointing and given a lot of nonsensical moments since the beginning, even Z had its share, so at this point another questionable moment is just like another wave breaking in the sand. It doesn't have much impact.

Mar 17, 2018 10:27 PM

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Amazing episode, the battle was so good. I always love when Goku kick his enemies' ass. Seeing Jiren being beaten is also a bonus.

Also, 17 and Frieza are back. I was expecting Frieza again, but 17 was a surprise. I thought the battle was going to end in this episode, since the next one is the last. I hope the next episode doesn't get rushed.
Mar 17, 2018 10:51 PM

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WHY do I feel like I am watching fckn fairy tail ah right that whole power of friendship thing
Mar 17, 2018 10:54 PM

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Expect the unexpected!! 17 is alive!! <3



Mar 17, 2018 11:00 PM

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What, 17 IS STILL ALIVE!! That was quite weird to be honest but this is DBS, who cares lol

Damn son, Jiren got a lucky plot hax at the end, what a bastard xD
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Mar 17, 2018 11:10 PM

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I love love this episode.The animation was amazing especially Naotoshi Shida part was just mind blowing.
The fight throughout the episode was both stylish and well choreography.
Surprise to see 17 is still not done and Goku pays a big toll using the master Ultra instinct form.
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Man, I'm not even gonna complain about it.

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Mar 17, 2018 11:28 PM
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Frieza has basically become nakama-tier now and he's gonna fade into the background like piccolo and go full tsundere like vegeta
Mar 17, 2018 11:32 PM
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Simply amazing. 👏🏻
I wonder how the people in Mexico reacted given they were hyping this episode big time.

I really loved this episode. Goku having the upper hand at first but then Jiren goes full power. That power up was insane, so much heat given off by Jiren. Goku had Jiren beat but i suppose even UI has its limitations which imo make sense. Goku’s body is worn out and much like irl when you push yourself too hard and risk injury.
Jiren hesitating at the end after he was told to take out Goku who’s UI took a toll on him.
That ending
17 is back. OMG i thought he died given the explosion was huge, and ofc G Frieza.
Next week gonna be lit.

Mar 17, 2018 11:49 PM

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Wow the ending was unexpected, Jiren accepted Goku after that epic fight.
17 is alive after that wtf he should have just died there is always the dragonballs.

One week left but I think DBS will make another comeback after the movie so I don't know but the ending might be a cliffhanger I hope Frieza won't be the last guy standing cause that will cause too much trouble.
Mar 17, 2018 11:53 PM
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I wonder how the people in Mexico reacted given they were hyping this episode big time.


some videos of the mexico crowd about the pirated live showing
https://twitter.com/ssav_alvarez/status/975176658654294016
https://twitter.com/Yabuki_Shingo/status/975163938039107584
Mar 18, 2018 12:12 AM
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How is jiren still in this after hitting the spectators? i swear someone got erased for doing something like that, not only this but no one did any form of reaction to it, it's as if nothing happened, weird..
Mar 18, 2018 12:39 AM

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Even though Naotoshi Shida is a fucking great animator and he does very detailed art on pretty well animated cuts, he sometimes makes his animation to look too fast, half of the time i don't even know what's happening, Naoki Tate for me, is the star of this episode, his impact shots are always awesome, this is his best work on Super, number#2 would be the Goku/#17 fight then #3 would be Gohan and Piccolo's fight against the U6 Namekians(plus the Gohan vs the mirage guy).

This episode is a 3/5

PS: I hate the plasma aura from the God level characters, it makes great looking animation look ugly and hides a lot of detail.

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Edit 1: Oops, forgot Tate's work on episode 110, the first person to do UI Goku, and his animation for the form is being basically copied by the other animators.

Edit 2: I take that back, i watched the Naotoshi Shida cuts from this episode again, but now at .25 speed, yeah, he is amazing, i hadn't even noticed how Goku uses ki balls to evade from Jiren's beams and also to propel him up while dodging(because they can't fly), Shida is the MVP of this episode, sorry Tate.


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Mar 18, 2018 12:59 AM

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When Jiren attacks Universe 7 bench, I got goosebumps!!!
The ending scene got me off guard. But where are they resting when there are a lot of explosions.....lol.
Find out in the next episode of Dragon Ball Super!!!
Mar 18, 2018 1:01 AM

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oh damn, the animation sequences are beyond amazing.
If I try and turn a blind eye to all the so prominent asspulls in this episode, I'd say that it was fairly entertaining.
Mar 18, 2018 1:01 AM

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angry goku
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Reminded me of Natsu....
Mar 18, 2018 1:07 AM

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So another episode of mindless sparring and flashy explosions for almost 20 minutes which could have pretty much ended the fight instead of dragging it out even more and on top of that they throw in the "nakama speech" crap. No comment about No. 17 being alive since I saw that coming too and spoilers kinda gave it out as well. Once again 1/5. Cannot wait for this piece of shit to end and get a good DB movie this December.
Mar 18, 2018 1:10 AM
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Greatest episode in Dragon Ball history!
Mar 18, 2018 1:21 AM

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How is jiren still in this after hitting the spectators? i swear someone got erased for doing something like that, not only this but no one did any form of reaction to it, it's as if nothing happened, weird..


Nah, Frost got erased for attacking participants from the spectator seats, but that's it. Even Android 18 attacked Supreme Kai from the field when he called her and Krillin Lovey-Dovey, though she didn't intend to hurt him and it was mostly played off for laughs. But yeah, I get what you're saying. That was my only problem in an otherwise amazing episode.
Mar 18, 2018 1:32 AM
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So totally loved the episode on the edge of my seat the whole time, at first thought that freza had killed goku for a second there at the end, but turns out goku body was messed up from the instinct mode crazy twist but kinda saw it coming

Liked that 17 was alive and knew freza was still alive, luckily goku messed jiren up for them or else they wouldn't stand a chance against him next episode lol

Really would have been nice that 17 sacrificed himself for them but he still did his part luckily he still alive for his little girl and wifey

Really thought freza was gonna pull some sketchy stuff but I'm glad he is pulling his weight and actually helping out. Turns out he is a decent alien haha
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I can’t be the only one who thought this scene was the Frieza betrayal theories coming true
Mar 18, 2018 2:22 AM

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This was undeniably the best Dragon Ball episode to date, ever.

From the brilliant and flawless animation, to the plot twists and the amazing Goku's "I'm no hero of justice or anything" line. That shit gave me goosebumps.

Also the MVP is bacK? This episode is just amazing
Mar 18, 2018 2:25 AM

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I'm quite disappointed. We won't likely see again MUI, ending the fight without MUI is kind of boring
Mar 18, 2018 2:25 AM

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How is 17 alive? The great priest himself said he died and Zeno even marked him out on his tablet. Zeno would certainly know if he was still alive. There was no need for this.

Well its not fair if they reveal the tricks of the participants, for example if 17 wanted to fake his death to hide in the tournament then its not cool if the zenos or grand priest say that hes still there somewhere.
Mar 18, 2018 2:27 AM

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wow I wanted to say what an amazing episode and then they end it like this .. If only Jiren would not be such a shitty character it might actually be cool.

So in the end Ultra Instinct is just a glorified Kaioken? Neat.

17 survived . lmao.

I was honestly expecting that Frieza attacked Goku there at the end.

Next EP will probably be the time running out.

I've said it before and I will say it again - if only DBS would be less shit, it might actually be awesome. This surely had the potential to be good sequel for DBZ, with all the throwbacks to the original DB and stuff.

PS: This is basically the end of the Boo saga all over again, Vegeta already learned the power of friendship/fighting for someone else. Kinda useless to waste this developement on Jiren.

Was honestly expecting it to end here and next ep to be like the BBQ episode after the boo fight.
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Mar 18, 2018 2:32 AM

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I'm quite disappointed. We won't likely see again MUI, ending the fight without MUI is kind of boring


Yeah I have the same feeling. It's anticlimactic. I don't want another form that ends up wasted, like when Gohan fought Bu with Mystic Gohan form. Everything for nothing.

But I guess that's how things are gonna be....
Mar 18, 2018 2:36 AM

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Was honestly expecting it to end here and next ep to be like the BBQ episode after the boo fight.


This! Every DB installment before concluded the last battle in an episode that is not the very last one, leaving room for a proper deneouement and/or a final chapter reserved for celebrating or saying goodbye... I really wanted this to be the way again...
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That animation was awesome.
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Mar 18, 2018 2:44 AM
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One of the best episodes of any anime i've ever seen. Just incredible
Mar 18, 2018 2:48 AM
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Aside from the Nakama power I really enjoyed this episode especially with all those amazing art scenes along with those neat animations.
I was expecting Frieza to go one-on-one against a heavily injured Jiren but looks like Andriod 17 was able to survive... somehow.
Anyway the title of the next episode in the preview made me rather sad, but on the bright side, the manga is looking pretty good.
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Mar 18, 2018 2:52 AM

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Comander-07 said:


Was honestly expecting it to end here and next ep to be like the BBQ episode after the boo fight.


This! Every DB installment before concluded the last battle in an episode that is not the very last one, leaving room for a proper deneouement and/or a final chapter reserved for celebrating or saying goodbye... I really wanted this to be the way again...
maybe that is what the movie will start with.
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Mar 18, 2018 2:55 AM

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Vongalaxy said:
How are you guys seriously liking this episode? The power of friendship thing is so cliche and boring. How exactly the fuck is Goku still powering up and "keep getting faster"? This arc has the most amount of asspulls in the whole series and that's saying a lot. There are some cool scenes with actual good drawings but generally the art style is inconsistent af. Lots of gifs and ugly explosions. The worst part still has to be 17 coming back for no fucking reason. It completely ruined his sacrifice and makes no sense. I honestly don't know how you guys can still defend this. How much of your brain do you have to turn off while watching to not question dumb shit like that?


If you want explanations then I can only tell you that back in ep 110 it was stated that as the fight progresses UI Goku was getting faster and stronger with each attack.
The episode was really good, you can also just say that 17 thought he was going to die but he didnt, I dont know if he tried to use the bomb he had inside which was removed in Z to explode, failed to explode and was pushed far away with jiren energy and since he didnt die he just hid until the right moment so they can have the secret number advantage.
Mar 18, 2018 3:04 AM

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Somehow 17 and Frieza survived all of that clashing, but nevermind, since I like them. I really enjoyed Jiren getting the shit kicked out of him. Also watch the fight in 1.5x speed, it looks incredible.
Mar 18, 2018 3:11 AM

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One more episode to go, I wonder what kind of crap they're gonna pull next.
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Mar 18, 2018 3:19 AM

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Wow impressive episode the first 2 minutes or so were absolutely nuts.
So many great scenes in this episode.

My father naotoshi shida back in action not with the best cut hes ever made but god damn those 2 stills are absolutely mindblowing



Mar 18, 2018 3:41 AM

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Shida is a god for that last animated action piece
Mar 18, 2018 3:41 AM
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Ok, so how the fucking hell doesn't Jiren get disqualified from attacking the audience? Come on that pissed me off so much. I mean I def. wouldn't want goku to win that way but still. Also, I agree there dragging it out even though this was one of my fav. episodes. Like jiren is done, goku spanked his mom up and down the block in the end.. I understand surpassing god forms takes a toll on mortal bodies but jiren should of got that last ka blast to his face and fell off. I would love for goku to talk shit to him too afterwards but thats just not goku. Anyways I love this show and I love you all
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One more episode to go, I wonder what kind of crap they're gonna pull next.

Lmao, waiting for the same thing xD
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