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May 12, 2018 1:02 PM

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Battle aftermath / team building blah blah. Calm before the storm.

That end though. Zero Two's sister?
May 12, 2018 7:43 PM
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I feel bad for Futoshi. He's basically in love with Kokoro, who friendzones him, and just when it seems like things might be looking up, he's showing all the classic signs of an eating disorder. I wish Zorome would have responded a little differently, since he was the only one who knew about it, but I get it--it's Zorome.

I had a feeling about the developing relationship between Mitsuru and Kokoro. Their relationship might just be a gateway to learning more about the world they live in, especially since it seems like Kokoro is interested in the families of the past.

Also, can they just give Zero Two an actual name already? I've been thinking about what to call her other than that and for some reason I keep calling her Lucy in my head. Give her an actual name!!!
May 12, 2018 9:18 PM
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So much happened, much re-shipping.
Kokoro did the right thing following her kokoro.
Filing her dino-side with a repaired mirror was nice symbolism for 02, and becoming much more cooperative & 'human'.
They're abandoned?
Not sure of Mitsuru's new hair, but he's quite a different man now.
So Miku's hair turning bald/grey? Futoshi has appetite problems. Or they're all aging faster...
May 13, 2018 6:33 AM

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I'm waiting for the manga version of this episode, that bath scene tho.
May 13, 2018 2:47 PM

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But that's just being emotional and such. Your not changing your personality, though I think I may flip a table because I'm sure her personality will change. It's a guarantee, espically with all these flipping death flags.

Ohh, I see, you make an excellent point and I shall take it properly into account. Though I feel like it's just not enough for love, maybe attraction but not love. They have no reason to love each other like love interests. I am sure we will get a reason in the future, but for now, we have none.

My number one problem is the writers. First, with the absolute horrible setup as at least 10 episodes are wasted in drama when the characters and world building could be showcased in much better ways and 10 episodes without a concrete plot besides teen drama with mechas used to only have the action tag on it.
Now we need to somehow stuff the rest of the plot in the remaining and we have no idea if there is a season two. And if there is, who knows when that will start, it could be 10 years later until the first trailer for season two would be released.
One of my biggest problems is Hiro himself. He lacks personality. As he has no outstanding character design, but this isn't bad, it's a strategy. They make them simple so it's easier for the watcher to relate to the character as they are more "us" like. But, we can't relate if they have no personality to relate too. He seems so out of place, sometimes it just feels like he's there to just to be an anchor for ZeroTwo and nothing else, ( I know that isn't true ). All the other characters are static and somewhat shallow, besides Ichigo and (ZeroTwo but I have a few problems against ZeroTwo) though I think characters are half-baked and development between characters, espically in a loving sense, is where a lot of the problems stem from. I can explain in more depth about why each character kinda sucks, so just ask me if you want.
I feel like too much attention is focused on the main two that we get nothing on anyone else, which is why we get no good reason for the love between Kokoro and Misturu. Plus this makes all the rest of the cast shallow and we get to know nothing about Hachi or Nana which just makes them simply info dispensers and nothing more. I'm fine with static and round characters but they have to be in the right setting. In an anime like Darling in the Franxx, having these kinds of charatcers make it a downfall, while in Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou (manga), these kinds of characters add to its appeal.
They need to make it like Eureka Seven (anime) when even when the main two aren't together there is still developing between the two and we some of the best character development between not only the main but a few others! As you can tell, I highly recommend it and it is made from the same studio.
Haha, I just found out, your so much older than I am. Sorry if I have come off disrespectful.


This was quite a enjoyable discussion but the last episode proved me something. We are not ready to discuss all those things cause the show is not finished and the last episode... was clearly a suprise. This might get even more suprising till the end. There is no point in discussing a lot of those points. Not yet.

Thank you very much for a quality discussion. It was respectful all along. I wish more people could discuss things like you did. I do not care how old someone is. As long as the discussion is civil and respectful.
May 13, 2018 2:57 PM
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tearofmankind said:
13rinWinged said:
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But that's just being emotional and such. Your not changing your personality, though I think I may flip a table because I'm sure her personality will change. It's a guarantee, espically with all these flipping death flags.

Ohh, I see, you make an excellent point and I shall take it properly into account. Though I feel like it's just not enough for love, maybe attraction but not love. They have no reason to love each other like love interests. I am sure we will get a reason in the future, but for now, we have none.

My number one problem is the writers. First, with the absolute horrible setup as at least 10 episodes are wasted in drama when the characters and world building could be showcased in much better ways and 10 episodes without a concrete plot besides teen drama with mechas used to only have the action tag on it.
Now we need to somehow stuff the rest of the plot in the remaining and we have no idea if there is a season two. And if there is, who knows when that will start, it could be 10 years later until the first trailer for season two would be released.
One of my biggest problems is Hiro himself. He lacks personality. As he has no outstanding character design, but this isn't bad, it's a strategy. They make them simple so it's easier for the watcher to relate to the character as they are more "us" like. But, we can't relate if they have no personality to relate too. He seems so out of place, sometimes it just feels like he's there to just to be an anchor for ZeroTwo and nothing else, ( I know that isn't true ). All the other characters are static and somewhat shallow, besides Ichigo and (ZeroTwo but I have a few problems against ZeroTwo) though I think characters are half-baked and development between characters, espically in a loving sense, is where a lot of the problems stem from. I can explain in more depth about why each character kinda sucks, so just ask me if you want.
I feel like too much attention is focused on the main two that we get nothing on anyone else, which is why we get no good reason for the love between Kokoro and Misturu. Plus this makes all the rest of the cast shallow and we get to know nothing about Hachi or Nana which just makes them simply info dispensers and nothing more. I'm fine with static and round characters but they have to be in the right setting. In an anime like Darling in the Franxx, having these kinds of charatcers make it a downfall, while in Bokura wa Minna Kawaisou (manga), these kinds of characters add to its appeal.
They need to make it like Eureka Seven (anime) when even when the main two aren't together there is still developing between the two and we some of the best character development between not only the main but a few others! As you can tell, I highly recommend it and it is made from the same studio.
Haha, I just found out, your so much older than I am. Sorry if I have come off disrespectful.


This was quite a enjoyable discussion but the last episode proved me something. We are not ready to discuss all those things cause the show is not finished and the last episode... was clearly a suprise. This might get even more suprising till the end. There is no point in discussing a lot of those points. Not yet.

Thank you very much for a quality discussion. It was respectful all along. I wish more people could discuss things like you did. I do not care how old someone is. As long as the discussion is civil and respectful.


It was definitely enjoyable and I thank you too. Also, I am also in agreement as it is not right to review these things until the final episode and so I hope we can have another debate when Darling in the Franxx ends.
May 15, 2018 2:55 PM
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Lovely episode, the show is back to its good form, even these slower episodes feel really worth watch now.
Hope it can keep it up.
I m also trashing for that kiss, I hope that slut find an horrible death, I wish the studio would stop focusing on her, I actually like Mitsuru, but she can go and die.

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Does no one feel bad for Futoshi?
I mean his partner left him and now she's in love with Mitsuru.

You must not have been reading then, I m have been calling that shit out everyone episode it happens, it still pisses me off alot, I wish I couldnt care, but now I just want to see meet an horrible end, maybe I will be sad about it then, but it is better than feeling disgusted right now to what she did with almost no remorse to fatty.
I believe I m not the only one butthurted about her neither.
May 19, 2018 11:37 AM
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Ohhh, the main villain is a evil twin/clone or wherever of Zero Two. I'm scared -.-. I prefer that the plot go to other route but meh -.-!! SOL episode!! Mitsuru's new hair!! Status-quo again despite that Zero Two attacked everybody two episodes ago!! 2/5
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May 19, 2018 11:02 PM

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I guess Futoshi's problems are solved..
May 25, 2018 4:49 PM

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The girls bathing was the highlight. Boring otherwise.
May 26, 2018 2:18 PM

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You know because of Kokoro's kiss, this scene in particular flew under the radar:
I didn't notice it until I rewatched it.

There are a couple of reasons for this:
- She's aging due to a genetic flaw that shortens the pilot's lifespan and whether she knows about it and hiding it or just finding about it just recently.
- She's not who she claims to be; a spy perhaps or just somebody assuming someone else's identity for whatever reason yet to be revealed.
- She's already an adult; perhaps another experiment hidden in plain sight.
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Aug 8, 2018 9:44 PM

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A nice new OP animation and ED, quite liked this overall episode quite a lot as well as it had some real group character development!

Do wonder what that ending was all about! Let's find out next.
Oct 3, 2018 4:00 PM
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Alright, the OP's visual has changed while the still amazing song remains. This new OP is very interesting as it has many potentially shocking events hidden into it. Such as where at one point near the end of the OP, Hiro and Zero 2 can't touch each other and Zero 2 eventually disappears... IS THIS A FORESHADOWING That Zero 2 will die or something?!!?!
I can't comment on the ED cuz this show got too much of it for its length.

After a series of long and hard battle, it's finally time for a relaxing slice of life...
I'm really happy to see Zero 2, Hiro and the others joyfully spending their time together and trying as best as they can to survive whilst still having fun.

I see the ship of Mitsuru X Kokoro is sailing strong, especially after episode 11! However, it went even further until the point that Mitsuru's personality goes 180 around Kokoro, treating her kindly whilst smiling and complimenting her. Though this really surprises me... I truly never expected Kokoro out of all to jump in and kissed Mitsuru. Well, Futoshi! Kokoro is better off with Mitsuru as a couple, lol, I wonder how he'll react if he's aware of this.

Despite the fun day they had, there's always something t ruin the mood, such as Futoshi not wanting to eat his foo. But this all boils down to Papa. Even though it's kind of the Doctor's responsibility since he's the one commanding nobody to go near the kids.

That last person is probably the person in the OP, AKA as the adults called it... The Klaxosaurs' Queen!

Dec 25, 2018 9:51 AM

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liking the new animation for the opening, it fits a lot with what's going on now.
kokoro x mitsuru forever
Jul 16, 2019 1:14 PM
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Everyone just forgetting to mention my guy Futoshi, that guy has been fucked sideways
Mar 30, 2020 9:33 PM

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omfg smiling Zero Two is good civilisation best thing to touch this planet.
Not really new OP but new animation is crispppp. Love it but i feel like the ending kinda spoils it :c lmao i legit stood up from my chair and screamed "no" after seeing it xd
honestly great episode, really touches the heart to see that zero two has warmed up so much to the squad and has becoming a lot more positive lately, that going for everyone tbh in this weird crisis. However through the cracks something is obviously wrong, adults seemed to have literally opened the dictionary found the word "expendable" and replaced the definition with "lmao these kids lol" and i've got a weird feeling those 'tests' are more important then we think.
Honestly Mitsuru has to have one of the best character development's i've seen. Really liked his development of hating Hiro to thinking about why he really does and changing from it. To completely contradict this ,not saying i hate this choice necessarily, but Mitsuru and Kokoro? Very weird chemistry i can't really understand how they work but end of the day i aignt an anime company ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
ending scene with Hiro and Zero Two getting all cuddly is cute af, they deserve all the best
also those credit scenes *yurification intensify*
Apr 22, 2020 8:08 AM

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These SoL episodes are the most fun to me somehow, don't care that much about all the fighting.
May 5, 2020 4:26 AM
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New OP, sound like good.

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May 13, 2020 10:15 AM

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Wait ... Miku's getting grey hair?
Is she becoming an "adult" or is she dying soon?

Mitsuru and Kokoro huh, was a long time coming but they finally kissed.

Wonder who the girl in the final scene is, looked a bit like Zero Two
Jun 6, 2020 7:38 PM
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Well, I feel bad for Futoshi cuz prolly he went on diet to prove to Kokoro that he wants to protect her at all costs, but seeing Kokoro together with Mitsuru really just make me feel bad for Futoshi (prolly cuz I have same experience as him??)
Jun 7, 2020 3:24 AM
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Great heartwarming episode. I guess the group will never be under Papa after this, I wonder however what and where they will go.
Jul 6, 2020 6:15 PM

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You know I appreciate Zero Two now being part of the group but I can't get behind this new personality. I would really have prefered she keep her superior attitude and dominance just without going to crazy extents with it. She seems so passive now that its like a completely different character. Tsk.

I suppose with this happy episode of the bonding of the team that things will take a turn now. I wonder if this show is going to take the route of all the pilots having short lives in order to give them the abilities that they have. Its been done in other works so I can see it happening to force in a tragic end. Something happening to Zero Two to threaten either her life or her humanity seems assured as well, whether it can be overcome is the question.

I suppose after declaring their love for each other Zero Two and her darling are in a platonic or maybe sibling relationship? Not that type of anime so I guess no adult activities but I find it so unrealistic that there seems no progress here after a month. Kokoro still has that baby book right? She not thinking about it anymore? Finally up and kisses whatshisface but haven't seen the fat one cry over her anymore so I suppose the drama there is done? Ichigo is no longer pining over Hiro? Goro over Ichigo? Suppose these adolescent crushes fade. Though maybe the plot is going to have them pop back up to cause useless drama when it will interfere with a battle? Shall find out.

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Jul 26, 2020 10:23 AM

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the new OP visuals were so stunning

kokoro giving mitsuru his haircut was cute! love them ♡ also don’t see why people can’t give that whole fake NTR shit a rest & kokoro getting so much hate why would one get so worked up over futoshi & kokoro unless one identifies with him lol

she doesn’t have to reciprocate his feelings? she’s not obligated to. they are clearly all in some sort of test to see how they would rise up to the occasion/react differently it has been mentioned multiple times throughout that this group of Children are different they are meant to rebel/react differently & anyway futoshi is clearly over it so


glad to see zero two back to her normal self and working on herself & bonding with the girls. miku washing her hair for her omg so cuteeeeee

loved that whole cooking scene & them skipping the papa prayer, it was very symbolic of their independence

them breaking down & being vulnerable was so hard to watch

loved the new ED! the music of DITF is always amazing







but i’ll probably remember over and over again
you were there and everyone else was there
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Oct 10, 2020 8:29 AM

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Im really enjoying this anime lmao

Nov 20, 2020 6:09 PM

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Pretty good, relaxing ep, but the Zoroman drama came out of nowhere and was really abrupt. Good to see Zero Two back to her cute ways.

Pretty sure the no contact from Nana, basic food and enforced self sufficiency the kids are being subjected to is an attempt to prepare them for recolonizing the surface. They're being tested to see if they can band together and survive alone.
Feb 2, 2021 10:59 AM
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I liked this episode and it shows how the team are more than just fighting tools and that they have a future outside of fighting. It's too calm though I suspect that something bad will happen soon. There are too many open threads with the mystery of why they have been left by themselves for a month to the human like creature inside the cores.
I also really liked the kiss. Their dynamic will work I think but I still feel bad for Futoshi. Although nobody has been taught about mental health it was still slightly strange that they confronted him about throwing up food and then still called him 'fatso'.
Feb 18, 2021 4:06 AM

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okay but can we talk about the ed song??? Ikuno??? does she likes Ichigo???? omggggg all this thinking it was Mitsuru that liked Hiro
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Apr 8, 2021 7:39 AM
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why Mitsuru, why? Am I the only one who does not like his new hairstyle?
Jun 15, 2021 9:56 PM

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A beautiful episode tbh. Loved how 02 has been fully accepted by the group and is contented with what she has now. Also Mitsuru has changed a lot and I guess his new haircut symbolises changes in him. Also I didn't expect Kokoro to kiss Mitsuru all of a sudden. Futoshi was most likely dieting to win Kokoro-chan's attention. Also great to see the squad exchange their feeling and share their thoughts. Never saw all of them this happy in a while :')

Also looks like the Klaxosaur queen or 'princess' as Papa and gang says was somewhat shown to us. What if she's like 02 but more Klaxosaur?
Jun 25, 2021 8:46 AM

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So they're like abandoned in their home but they keep in touch like giving out rations, Zero Two is in a good mood her personality became so positive I like that side of her, The OP looks so sick it's visually pleasing and it sounds like the same as the first one

Mitsuru's cut was noticeable and oh a kiss coming from Kokoro damn Mitsuru, I think Zero Two's new personality will change a lot of things positively I mean just look at her being gleeful now with the group a very nice change of pace

They cooked their own food and the three went fishing although Hiro didn't catch any, And what's happening to Futoshi he's probably hiding something for himself and it does not look good.
Jun 26, 2021 5:21 AM

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Zero Two is so good with this personality of hers...Now the Gangs learned a lot of real life stuff like fishing and cooking by themselves...the new songs were gr8
Aug 29, 2021 11:15 PM

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After that whole drama and fight this episode felt good and much needed . Everyone is getting along with other

Zero two's personality is nice. It's so nice to see everyone happy and personally I didn't like the mitsuru's hair and man! I didn't expect the kiss between mitsuru and kokoro

The new songs are good and I am getting a bad vibe from that new character

And why is miku hair turned into grey is it due to stress or the squad 13 parasites age too fast ?
Mar 20, 2022 6:55 AM

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Well that was a quite settling episode.

PS: Happy to see Squad 13 getting along and quickly adapting to their new condition.
Sep 4, 2022 10:13 PM

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Another shit episode trying to develop the characters and their forced dramas.
Feb 1, 2023 1:09 PM
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Looks like Kokoro has joined the bitch train with Ichigo. I never shipped her with the fat dude but it pisses me off that she can break a promise so easily. First she switches pilots and now kisses mitsuru. What the fuck. Do promises really mean nothing to them. 

Good ed song

There’s a lot of death flags popping up especially with mikus white hair. I do want ichigo and kokoro to die but please just don’t kill off zero two and hiro. Seeing zero two so happy and cheerful really made me happy. 

Also looks like Goro will be rejected again. That ending with Bichigo and Ikuno. Smfh don’t fuck with Goro even more, he’s had enough. 

The romance is so forced.

Zero two is the only character carrying this anime. All the other characters are ass
May 4, 2023 4:06 PM

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Did that last scene show the Klaxosaur princess that was being talked about earlier in the episode? Maybe the klaxosaurs were the sympathetic group all along. I'm starting to see some similarities with Qualidea Code's plot, especially if that suspicion turns out to be correct (no guarantees, of course).

The Futoshi dieting drama also came out of absolutely nowhere. Makes me wonder if it'll actually amount to anything, or if it will be dropped without fanfare.


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Sep 29, 2023 12:14 PM
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The "new" OP looks sweet!
Too bad for Futoshi. It looks like Mitsuru and Kokoro will end up together. Their kissing scene is a nice start.
What's up with Miku's hair turning white?

This feels like the calm before the storm. I wonder what kind of experiment the geezers are running. And who's that chick that kind of looks like 02 in the end? Intriguing.
Oct 30, 2023 6:29 PM

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Nice episode but why do I have a feeling that’s a huge and dark storm is waiting for them like something bad is gonna happen and I don’t wanna watch it?!

Nov 30, 2023 7:47 PM
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Finally she's back to her regular self
Dec 17, 2023 9:53 PM
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So now that 02 got Hiro in the way she finds acceptable, Ichigo surrenders him to her and Hiro remembers their past together, 02 finally starts to interact and integrate with squad 13? Like WTF, why didn't she just try to do that sooner?!? People saying 02 is "back to normal" is wrong, she's better than normal which is not her usual self. She's coming off like some entitled brat who finally got their way after putting up a tantrum for so long, and is only now more than happy to cooperate because she's content she got what she wanted. Whereas all she had to do is to try to be like this from the start, and things would have worked out way sooner without the drama. What a cunt, and this anime is such a drama queen.
Dec 29, 2023 1:31 PM
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A decent episode that moves rather slowly, and does not display anything necessarily meaningful or important, but serves to strengthen the bond between the characters for the viewer. It's an okay episode.
Dec 30, 2023 2:44 PM
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Ikuno Smash! ÒwÓ I had a similar reaction to Miku. I liked this slice of life portion very much qwp
Feb 15, 2024 9:07 PM

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wonderful episode, love the new OP and 02's attitude to match, Springtime love and nothing but good vibes with the kids growing up so fast, and of course the necessary subtle reminders that the shit can only hit the fan completely from this point forward lol
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The whole gang's got the Old Snake syndrome!
Jun 5, 2024 4:39 AM
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This is the episode that shows the squad finally comes together as a team. Moving forward this is the best point of their lives and the future is uncertain.
Jul 29, 2024 2:50 AM
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I like the development of Zero-two, she become part of girls group is dear to see. However Papa abandoned them and it clear, the adult have bad plan for them. It would be interesting to see what kind of storm will storm off after this.

The op is beautiful
Sep 30, 2024 8:21 AM
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The episode in it‘s entirety is a mixture of happi- and sadness. The point where the two of them reunite was my absolute favourite in the anime so far
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I like the development of Zero-two, she become part of girls group is dear to see. However Papa abandoned them and it clear, the adult have bad plan for them. It would be interesting to see what kind of storm will storm off after this.

The op is beautiful
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This episode just made me mad at Kokoro again.
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nice change of pace
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I'm so glad they didn't change the opening song. I'm so fond of it.
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