Anime Thought of The Day..? V.3 - Circlejerk & Chat

Killaclown said:
how old were you when you realized you would never sit in a mecha?

cupc said:


It's one of the most entertaining anime I have come across, and also one of my favorites. It's very well paced, every episode is just full of fun. The fights look very beautiful, the production values are glorious. The mechanical design is also very unique, and I like the pseudo-scientific aspect of the time going faster while in outer space, it brings a unique element to the story.

The growth of Noriko from your average teenager grill into the hero of the humanity in just 6 episodes is glorious.

tsudecimo said:

It seemed fun, to me, and I really liked the character design and art.

I'm going to download it now!

Mecha world here I come D:

fst said:


Never.

I'm an aerospace engineer, I'll make it happen

JizzyHitler said:
Honestly most of my problems with gunbuster reside more in the first half than the 2nd, i think it squandered alot of time that could had been spent on building things up more and generally wasnt that fun to watch, episode 4-6 were definitely huge improvements for me and the only real gripe i had with it was the black and white final ep was kind of pointless with the arty reveal of why it was like that making it feel kind of forced especially with all the other stuff going on behind this artistic choice(its similar to some "creative" decisions that made me really dislike evangelion's final few episodes). Gunbuster succeeded most when it was being a human drama than when it was trying to put symbolism into itself, and while some of the symbolism worked i dont think all of it did and like EVA alot of it felt forced to me. I think i just have some issues with anno even though hes a good storyteller. I think he knows how to tell a great story from beginning to end but then when he has the perfectly acceptable script he adds alot of unnecessary things ontop of it that do nothing more than weaken what the core story was.

cupc said:
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Zergneedsfood said:
dat OP was so cute

I think Ckan said it was basically an anime that paid a big homage to a tennis shoujo manga whose name was like top wo nerae ace or something like that.

That made me like it even more despite the fact I had never read the manga. Anno has good taste in sports. :P

JizzyHitler said:



Long story short, anno has a bad tendency to screw up being subtle.

-Klad- said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_mrdCI6Rw

Is it wrong to get hyped about an opening of an anime about dogs?

-Klad- said:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4_mrdCI6Rw

Is it wrong to get hyped about an opening of an anime about dogs?

JizzyHitler said:
i deal with alot of pretentious fuckwits around where i live, that and going through multiple AP english classes back in high school and some certain college classes made me really start to hate certain types of symbolism(the kind all the above mentioned like to praise and put on a pedestal), this might be why im particularly harsh on certain parts of gunbuster. I love symbolism when done right, but what i consider right is when you can convey things without cramming it down our throats, we as viewers should be able to decipher it without having some visual cue thrown in. This isnt directed just at gunbnuster cause frankly gunbuster's final ep was the only part that felt phoned in to me the rest was well done. Even some of my favorite shows have their moments of too phoned in like this from one of my all time favorites
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thankfully the rest of it didnt bother me as much with episode 19 actually containing what i more or less consider my favorite scene in anime being supported by some great uses of symbollism among other things, its not super subtle but holy shit is it effective, even people that dislike this show seem to at least say this ep was great

Okashi_sama said:
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tsudecimo said:

Yoooooo

That forum set.

So much better than the previous one.

cupc said:


I don't know, to me it feels you're taking it a big too seriously. Gunbuster has no symbolism as far as I know, the black-and-white was just a simple visual trick to affect the viewers. It's just an extremely fun mecha throughout, and that's why I like it. It's nothing deep, but its production is full of quality - it simply works.

JizzyHitler said:
gunbuster definitely had symbolism, it wasnt as obnoxious (and frankly bad) as evangelions was but it was there, usually it was quite effective and well done and was actually used in moments that matter such as moments where the plot actually was moving foreword (such as the distorted action scene of episode 3, wasnt in your face, didnt disrupt the plot, had actual subtext behind it that was relevant and served a purpose for where the series went). The black and white was definetly not done just to look cool, they intended to have meaning behind it and thats why it bothers me so much cause its way too in your face and distracting, all the things it shouldnt be.

JizzyHitler said:
Though let me just re-iterate this, gunbusters last ep is great, the black and white didnt spoil my enjoyment of it though it does illustrate what i think is anno's weakest points as a storyteller which is to overdo things, my actual issues with gunbuster are more simple such as the pacing and that russian chick as well as a couple other things that arent really worth noting nor distract much.

cupc said:


Can you point me the symbolism then? You claim it definitely had symbolism, but I can't remember any.

I never said the black-and-white was done to look cool, as I said it was meant to have a nostalgic effect on viewers - a visual trick. Why do you think it intended to have a meaning in the first place? Are you sure it's not just your prejudice on Anno being the director making you biased?

ReaperCreeper said:
Now that Ushio to Tora is getting a new adaption I can't read the manga like I was planning without looking like a poser.

cupc said:


I think a part of Gunbuster's theme, so to say, is to overdo things. And in this regard Anno doing all he can to overdo things works in this particular cheesy anime rather well.

JizzyHitler said:
well for starters episode 3


Im not sure why youd want to discredit this aspect of gunbuster, cause its one of the things that made up its best parts, its not shoved in your face, serves a great purpose that exemplifies the already great human emotion and character development as well as explored themes of war very well even if they werent even telling it through a human on human conflict. It can be enjoyed by people who dont want to over-think it as well as those that want to appreciate more complex themes behind it. If anything saying alot of this outloud is making me appreciate the series more in the same way me talking about the original gundam's themes made me like it more.

JizzyHitler said:
if you mean overdo things as in be over the top as hell, then yeah no shit gunbuster does that. I mean overdo things as in he doesnt know when too much is too much, dont fix what isnt broken, he'd alreayd have a great product but then he'll throw too much onto it even though it was already ideal. This has nothing to do with over the topness or insanity which gunbuster really wasn't much of in the first place other than its goofy robots doing push ups and rocky stair runs, and those things were funny as hell/awesome. EVa is the one i have beefs with not gunbuster

Paulo27 said:
Forever a filthy secondary.

cupc said:
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JizzyHitler said:
too much, like shoving religious symbols and even terminology down our throats throughout the entire show even to the point where the final scene which already illustrated its reference to adam and eve and have a bunch of crucified angels in the background just to really nail in the religious subtext. That or the real obvious one of having the enemies called angels(which is fine) blow up into literal crosses(which is where its overdoing it). Its the case of the point was already made, but they keep at it. Thats what i mean by overdoing it.

Overdoing it in this regard doesnt spoil the core experience especially when its as good as gunbuster and eva(well with eva i kind of ignore the last few episodes existence then replace it with end of eva cause that was so good plus the last bits of evba had the excuse of literally no budget). Anno's a good storyteller and director but im still critical on stuff he does, i love naoki urasawa to death but i can list alot of things that hes not too good at doing especially cause all his stories have issues with how they conclude, wattannabe soemtimes lacking in portraying purpouse which zankyou was the biggest showcase of this fault and sorachi.....well he is kind of self explanatory with what he does wrong.

fst said:
"AP English"

I resent how that was the only AP class my high school offered, since once I got to university I got raped on all the math courses by all the kids who did AP calc.

But fo' real, AP english sounds like the kind of thing that would be an entry on urban dictionary with the definition "A complete waste of time for pretentious fuckwits"

Feaor said:
I came in with enough AP credits to skip my freshman year (I had 4's or 5's in Calc, Physics B and both E&M and Mechanics, Chemistry, Biology, Macro Econ and US Gov) I was taking Sophomore EE classes from the get go and I felt I was in way over my head pretty quickly. It wasn't worth it I don't think especially since I ended up hating the EE stuff minus like Signals.

fst said:
"AP English"

I resent how that was the only AP class my high school offered, since once I got to university I got raped on all the math courses by all the kids who did AP calc.

But fo' real, AP english sounds like the kind of thing that would be an entry on urban dictionary with the definition "A complete waste of time for pretentious fuckwits"

JizzyHitler said:
it was, i hated that class so damn much. It was just a pretentious circlejerk of who can pull more stuff out of their ass when reading literature from dead authors so they cant confirm or deny if any of this symbollism or meanings we were making up were actually intentional. Ironically i sat next to the dumbest and most close minded gi- no bitch she was a bitch im not sugar coating that, she was like a super racist and nationalistic(for russia not america where we live) chick who openly voiced her dislike for black people, gay people, and non catholics people, like it was almost unbelievable how bad a person she was and she just complimented a already painful class, and she wrote a nice note in my yearbook :)

Hell im a dumb as shit kid so the fact that they even put me in the class is a great example at how stupid that class was.

Zergneedsfood said:
Did you take AP English? o_O

fst said:
What kind of EE stuff did you hate ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

I had to do a shitload of EE stuff in my second year, for reasons I still don't entirely understand.

Zergneedsfood said:
Did you take AP English? o_O

Uhhhh, I actually had a good AP Lit class.

Feaor said:
Mostly Analog circuit design since its black fucking magic, I don't really understand it to this day. Electromagnetics also kinda sucked, especially the transmission line stuff since Smith charts were a mind fuck at first. Then I guess also Controls but that may have been because my professor was not great and his English was so-so despite having a son my age who was born here :|

fst said:
But that's not important. Why do you know so much about the dude's personal life? Reminds me of that time my digital logic prof brought his dog into the lecture.

fst said:
"AP English"

I resent how that was the only AP class my high school offered, since once I got to university I got raped on all the math courses by all the kids who did AP calc.

But fo' real, AP english sounds like the kind of thing that would be an entry on urban dictionary with the definition "A complete waste of time for pretentious fuckwits"

silverwalls said:

something about those proportions is not right

JizzyHitler said:
speaking of high schools......did anyone have to dissect a dead cat in advanced biology classes? I sure as fuck didnt (i went into environmental science instead and to dissect owl throw up pellets instead) but one of my friends said she had to.

JizzyHitler said:
speaking of high schools......did anyone have to dissect a dead cat in advanced biology classes? I sure as fuck didnt (i went into environmental science instead and to dissect owl throw up pellets instead) but one of my friends said she had to.

JizzyHitler said:
speaking of high schools......did anyone have to dissect a dead cat in advanced biology classes? I sure as fuck didnt (i went into environmental science instead and to dissect owl throw up pellets instead) but one of my friends said she had to.

Feaor said:
Cause my department was 60 students total and my major my year was 18 so we knew the professors quite well. We went to the bar occasionally with them and after we submitted our design project senior year, our adviser bought us all a round at the bar. Oh and I also had a class with him senior year that was 4 or 5 people so that probably helps as well.