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| Shinji was the MVP of this episode nuff said |
astroprogs said: Insertanamehere said: Aniplex and Crunchyroll fixed the Steel is My Body line btw. Good. Gonna wait for UTW still, though. I usually watch from crunchyroll becoz they are legit. |
astroprogs said: They caught up to episode 19. I think we'll get this one subbed by Tuesday at the earliest. Mickdrew said: They've been keeping up very well. I wouldn't be surprised if their subs are release on Monday xcllnt said: So I guess we can expect them to release this episode maybe around Wednesday if they keep their pace. You guys can't agree on anything can you lol. |
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astroprogs said: Zulkir said: By the way, at what minute is the "You are correct, but not right" part? The closest that I found is at 21:47 after Shirou heals himself, but he tells quite a different thing. 21:36 Shirou said: 手も足もまだ動く 負けていたのは俺の心だ お前を正しいだと受け入れていた 俺の心が弱かった お前の正しさはただ正しいだけのものだ そんなもの、俺は要らない 俺は正義の味方になる Literally, Shirou said: My arms and legs are still working The one that lost [to you] was my heart It accepted you as being right My heart was weak Your rightfulness is just a thing of being right I don't need such a thing I will become a champion of justice Is something like that in the subs? |
ZulkirMay 23, 2015 12:35 PM
KamiCity said: astroprogs said: They caught up to episode 19. I think we'll get this one subbed by Tuesday at the earliest. Mickdrew said: They've been keeping up very well. I wouldn't be surprised if their subs are release on Monday xcllnt said: So I guess we can expect them to release this episode maybe around Wednesday if they keep their pace. You guys can't agree on anything can you lol. I guess I'll hedge my bets on Thursday then. |
Mickdrew said: Yes, I know you can find stuff wrong with this episode if you compare each progression in the story compared to the VN - but on its own, this was great. Nothing seriously bad from my point of view, it seemed well executed. dat Archer vs Shirou got intense Same here. I feel like people have become so biased against this show that they start nitpicking every single detail just to feel better. |
Zulkir said: astroprogs said: 21:36 Shirou said: 手も足もまだ動く 負けていたのは俺の心だ お前を正しいだと受け入れていた 俺の心が弱かった お前の正しさはただ正しいだけのものだ そんなもの、俺は要らない 俺は正義の味方になる Literally, Shirou said: My arms and legs are still working The one that lost [to you] was my heart It accepted you as being right My heart was weak Your rightfulness is just a thing of being right I don't need such a thing I will become a champion of justice Is something like that in the subs? wait what does that mean, I'm seriously confused. That line confuses me even more then CR's line. like, is what he trying to say there mean he is jabbing at archer for acting all right specifically because he believes he's right? What is he trying to prove there? X_X |
EmphaticPikachu said: Zulkir said: Literally, Is something like that in the subs? wait what does that mean, I'm seriously confused. That line confuses me even more then CR's line. like, is what he trying to say there mean he is jabbing at archer for acting all right specifically because he believes he's right? What is he trying to prove there? X_X "Your argument may be logically sound, but I cannot agree with the sentiment." is what Shirou means |
EmphaticPikachu said: Zulkir said: Literally, Is something like that in the subs? wait what does that mean, I'm seriously confused. That line confuses me even more then CR's line. like, is what he trying to say there mean he is jabbing at archer for acting all right specifically because he believes he's right? What is he trying to prove there? X_X This, I can only guess, lol. Probably something like "I almost agreed to you, since you are right. But you being right is still not a reason to abandon my ideal, since it does not require rightfulness." or something. |
Caliburn220 said: EmphaticPikachu said: wait what does that mean, I'm seriously confused. That line confuses me even more then CR's line. like, is what he trying to say there mean he is jabbing at archer for acting all right specifically because he believes he's right? What is he trying to prove there? X_X "Your argument may be logically sound, but I cannot agree with the sentiment." is what Shirou means I think he just meant that "i will not become like you in the future" |
| right rʌɪt/ adjective 1. morally good, justified, or acceptable. "I hope we're doing the right thing" synonyms: just, fair, equitable, good, upright, righteous, virtuous, proper, moral, morally justified, ethical, honourable, honest, principled; More antonyms: wrong, unjust 2. true or correct as a fact. "I'm not sure I know the right answer" synonyms: correct, accurate, without error, unerring, exact, precise; More Look at 1st def |
 Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Good lead up, epic in fact, to what I hope to be one of the anime finest fights. |
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Yuzuryn said: Mickdrew said: Yes, I know you can find stuff wrong with this episode if you compare each progression in the story compared to the VN - but on its own, this was great. Nothing seriously bad from my point of view, it seemed well executed. dat Archer vs Shirou got intense Same here. I feel like people have become so biased against this show that they start nitpicking every single detail just to feel better. It's just that the VN flows better. Simple as that. While the anime does it justice in certain regards with imagery. There are a lot of problems when you get to HUGE transition points like this. Having read the VN multiple times, I can clearly tell you that I felt more emotion reading and looking at a still image then watching an animation. It's not trying to nit pick its simply stating one is better than the other and is the base of comparison. The biggest issue is the build up to this point with Shirou's characterization and arguably most of the other cast. Anime only viewers have experienced what they experience but VN readers know all the stuff glossed over or omitted which built the scene we are currently watching. Personally, while this wasn't a bad episode, it was not a good episode either. There are things I liked and things I had problems. There are a few significant translation issues with this script from Aniplex is prob at the forefront of problems with this episode. At least imo. While the core concept is expressed (I suppose) if an anime only viewer gave this episode as a 5/5 it is not wrong for a passionate VN fan to see this as a 3/5. I'm glad to see people enjoying the universe but VN "nit picking" is well justified in nearly all the cases presented. |
IZEROIIMay 23, 2015 12:49 PM
| the episode was ok, loved Shinji's reaction to being stabbed. PRICELESS! |
 All credit goes to Sacred. |
| Ohhhh, Lancer, why you're so based? Being such a badass must be one of his competence. Not only that, but he manage to say awesome one-liners? Could his death be more badass? At least, he didn't die like a certain someone... Kotomine is really a careless man. Partying with Matou Shinji? Not checking if his zombie servant is actually dead? At that point, he deserved to die. Shinji running like the little bitch he is was awesome too. I've been wondering, the staff from Ufotable and even Nasu were talking about major changes, but the only major change I noticed was Avalon being activated (at least, it wasn't in the VN, from my memories). There may be other things too, it has been a long time since I've read it, but I believe it was pretty similar. The shock between their ideals was really beautifully represented. I loved Shirou inner conflict and Archer confronting his hypocrisy. But Shirou is also a great character (not so much in the Fate route), more particuliarly in Heaven Feels route, but in this route, it is where he define his stuborn character. |
| «Time is passing so quickly. Right now, I feel like complaining to Einstein. Whether time is slow or fast depends on perception. Relativity theory is so romantic. And so sad.» - Kurisu Makise a.k.a. The Zombie |
black1blade said: right rʌɪt/ adjective 1. morally good, justified, or acceptable. "I hope we're doing the right thing" synonyms: just, fair, equitable, good, upright, righteous, virtuous, proper, moral, morally justified, ethical, honourable, honest, principled; More antonyms: wrong, unjust 2. true or correct as a fact. "I'm not sure I know the right answer" synonyms: correct, accurate, without error, unerring, exact, precise; More Look at 1st def Lol....you guys are so funny |
mira-nyan said: Funny how you guys aren't even complaining about this;  Worst part of the episode. Creepy shit. Would have expected Shinji to do something like that. Not Kotomine. ...and I can't believe Kotomine is dead. Really disappointing, overall. But hey, Lancer sure is awesome. I'm glad he was able to do something like that before his actual death. And everything he said about Rin before he died was great. Let's not forget about him beating the crap out of Shinji...again! Too bad he didn't kill that attempted rapist. I really hope Shinji dies before the end of this series. I hate that fucking guy. Is Shirou's "just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right" the new "people die if they are killed"? I wish he'd start making sense... Good episode, though. Nice insert song used throughout the big fight. Ufotable's budget is really something else. |
Mickdrew said: Pretty much this :D The episode director for this one knew what he was doing. As well executed as anything we've seen so far from ufoFSN The episode director did know what he was doing this episode for sure! I guess some props have to be given to Mirua as well. Kolios said: The imagery was well done. It's a good example of showing and not fully telling. Next episode will probably be the telling since it's title "Answer". Definitely. I wished they used more of those type of scenes before if they were to represent his monologues. Maybe not to the same scale of course, but it helps hearing monologues when you see some type of imagery with it. |
| Utw - unlimited translation works lol i never knew that there was a website like that too |
Mormegil said: mira-nyan said: Funny how you guys aren't even complaining about this; Worst part of the episode. Creepy shit. Would have expected Shinji to do something like that. Not Kotomine. ...and I can't believe Kotomine is dead. Really disappointing, overall. But hey, Lancer sure is awesome. I'm glad he was able to do something like that before his actual death. And everything he said about Rin before he died was great. Let's not forget about him beating the crap out of Shinji...again! Too bad he didn't kill that attempted rapist. I really hope Shinji dies before the end of this series. I hate that fucking guy. Is Shirou's "just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right" the new "people die if they are killed"? I wish he'd start making sense... Good episode, though. Nice insert song used throughout the big fight. Ufotable's budget is really something else. Wait till HF movie(s) ;) |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Next episode : "Answer" Bruh... MAL is going to explode |
black1blade said: Mormegil said: Worst part of the episode. Creepy shit. Would have expected Shinji to do something like that. Not Kotomine. ...and I can't believe Kotomine is dead. Really disappointing, overall. But hey, Lancer sure is awesome. I'm glad he was able to do something like that before his actual death. And everything he said about Rin before he died was great. Let's not forget about him beating the crap out of Shinji...again! Too bad he didn't kill that attempted rapist. I really hope Shinji dies before the end of this series. I hate that fucking guy. Is Shirou's "just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right" the new "people die if they are killed"? I wish he'd start making sense... Good episode, though. Nice insert song used throughout the big fight. Ufotable's budget is really something else. Wait till HF movie(s) ;) Yo,thats not cool man. Dont trust him. I was shocked and very mad when that thing was revealed in HF.Or rather,those things. Also,after rewatching it over and over,this fucking ep owned. That new touch on Emiya's "comeback",and the new "Hey thats hell you're walking into" blew me away. I also loved how the fight was done,Emiya struggling to get a single scratch on archer,failing miserably and getting manhandled easily,what a desperate situation. I fucking love ufotabol. |
Taimanin_IreliaMay 23, 2015 1:10 PM
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Mickdrew said: Real Lancers kill their asshole masters before they die XDD Which is why F/SN Lancer is better than F/Z Lancer! ;) |
LoomyTheBrew said: Mickdrew said: Real Lancers kill their asshole masters before they die XDD Which is why F/SN Lancer is better than F/Z Lancer! ;) true that. |
| I came. To this thread. To tell you all I ejaculated while watching this. |
| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
| Less Spoilers, more about this episode |
TyrelMay 23, 2015 1:11 PM
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| Oh wow. Talk about unexpected Lancer brilliance. Why did he still have to die? Rin could've made a new pact with him goddamit. Kotomine dead. Such a gleeful moment. Rin +1 Die, Archer. Shirou +1 Arguably the best episode of the second cour. |
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| That ANN girl is going to have a fucking field day with this one. inb4 rant about Kotomine despite the fact that he has no interest in such things. |
| Archer should have finished him off by stabbing his heart... surely he wouldn't have been able to revive even with the scabbard >< |
| 3 WATs: 1-UBW... Wtf, really? Where does he even get the mana from? Amost dissapearing and then uses ubw? Even if it isn't a plothole, it goes against the Character of that Asshole to use more mana then needed and not achieve his objective. 2-Emiya theme only for 30 seconds..... WTF UFO??????? 3-Deaths felt a little impactless, again.... Atleast it was better then the other Deaths, and Lancer still came over all Bro-like :) lol @ ''just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right" .... |
fst said: That ANN girl is going to have a fucking field day with this one. inb4 rant about Kotomine despite the fact that he has no interest in such things. Agreed. The review for this episode will be very interesting.... |
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k0k0 said: Oh wow. Talk about unexpected Lancer brilliance. Why did he still have to die? Rin could've made a new pact with him goddamit. Kotomine dead. Such a gleeful moment. Rin +1 Die, Archer. Shirou +1 Arguably the best episode of the second cour. Kotomine dead should have been more epic than this. :( [Spoiler] since he was strong in zero [spoiler] |
| "Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right." >Implying Shirou is morally in the right |
clintonmadara said: Kotomine dead should have been more epic than this. :( What do you expect when it has to follow the VN? Still, a powerful moment. It will live among the saddest anime deaths ever. Mormegil said: ...and I can't believe Kotomine is dead. Wait until HF, good sir. True yuetsu will be acheived |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
clintonmadara said: k0k0 said: Oh wow. Talk about unexpected Lancer brilliance. Why did he still have to die? Rin could've made a new pact with him goddamit. Kotomine dead. Such a gleeful moment. Rin +1 Die, Archer. Shirou +1 Arguably the best episode of the second cour. Kotomine dead should have been more epic than this. :( [Spoiler] since he was strong in zero [spoiler] Patience is a virtue. Do you really think koto,rider ect have fulfilled their complete purpose within the story? |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
| Also, it really wasn't sad unless you have HF and/or zero knowledge. |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Patience is a virtue. Do you really think koto,rider ect have fulfilled their complete purpose within the story? Gods, no. |
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| And I mean that in the most sexually painful way possible. |
JabonHR said: XD |
Anime is good, fucking deal with it. |
black1blade said: Also, it really wasn't sad unless you have HF and/or zero knowledge. k0k0 said: black1blade said: Patience is a virtue. Do you really think koto,rider ect have fulfilled their complete purpose within the story? Gods, no. Just wait for HF my friend |
black1blade said: Wait till HF movie(s) ;) TrueKirei said: Wait until HF, good sir. True yuetsu will be acheived Sweet. I'm hyped now. |
Mormegil said: black1blade said: Wait till HF movie(s) ;) TrueKirei said: Wait until HF, good sir. True yuetsu will be acheived Sweet. I'm hyped now.  |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
clintonmadara said: Just wait for HF my friend Yes, everyone keeps saying that. I hope to read it before the movies come out. I'm pretty sure, though, that Kirei will never be removed from my Most Hated Characters' list. |
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Kokko said: "Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right." >Implying Shirou is morally in the right >Implying Archer is |
Shrimperor said: Kokko said: "Just because you're correct doesn't mean you're right." >Implying Shirou is morally in the right >Implying Archer is >Implying there is right or wrong in this. |
The sun is a deadly laser |
mira-nyan said: > Implying an implication is implicating something wrong.Shrimperor said: >Implying Archer is >Implying there is right or wrong in this. |
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k0k0 said: clintonmadara said: Just wait for HF my friend Yes, everyone keeps saying that. I hope to read it before the movies come out. I'm pretty sure, though, that Kirei will never be removed from my Most Hated Characters' list. Nor do I wish to be. Hate is often more revealing than love |
I am the Priest of my church Yuetsu is my body, and wine is my blood I have trolled over a thousand users Unknown to sympathy, nor known to apathy Withstood Shirou to eat Mapo Tofu Yet, my question will never be answered So as I rejoice, Unlimited Kirei Works! |
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