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Feb 2, 2015 10:33 AM

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-Klad- said:
Evangelion instrumentals, especially Fly me to the moon covers are always life.


So true.
Feb 2, 2015 10:34 AM

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tsudecimo said:
hentai_eucli said:

>Maken-Ki
>Terrible harem
pls

Never watched it. But them big curvy girls mmmmmmm <3

Muh nigga
Feb 2, 2015 10:36 AM

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Mustang_Roy said:
hentai_eucli said:
>Maken-Ki
>Terrible harem
pls


Most generic anime I've ever seen.
It was sooo bad that the MC kept messing around and didn't even get his power until the OVA was released. I thought it would have some action, but it turned out to be cluster mess of cliches.

Who the fuck cared about the MC's power
Maken-Ki was godly. You need to learn how to appreciate the god given "generic" anime full of "cliche"
Feb 2, 2015 10:37 AM

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Isn't Maken-ki the anime where the girls' boobs were bigger than their head?
Feb 2, 2015 10:39 AM

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StrayBotato said:
hentai_eucli said:

But that isn't the point.
I was refering to people complaining that they are bad characters, when in reality they are not.
I still don't get your point.

Are you saying that people complain when characters are NOT morally ambiguous.
Or are you saying that people complain when the villains aren't fleshed out/developed/whatever?

I'm saying that people complain when the character is just an evil person. Even if his morality is hidden from us, it shouldn't be regarded as "not fleshed out/developed/whatever".
The treat it like evil people don't actually exist in reality, and evil actions have to be justified.

I hope I'm getting through
Feb 2, 2015 10:43 AM
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And second season was filler -_-

How can this anime get worse?
Also, I don't appreciate cliches.

Unique is always what I'm searching for.

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I'm gonna remove it at some point. Didn't know it was that bad

Yup, and watch Bakemonogatari.
Also, don't forget FMA; Brotherhood.
Feb 2, 2015 10:45 AM

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hentai_eucli said:
StrayBotato said:
I still don't get your point.

Are you saying that people complain when characters are NOT morally ambiguous.
Or are you saying that people complain when the villains aren't fleshed out/developed/whatever?

I'm saying that people complain when the character is just an evil person. Even if his morality is hidden from us, it shouldn't be regarded as "not fleshed out/developed/whatever".
The treat it like evil people don't actually exist in reality, and evil actions have to be justified.

I hope I'm getting through

I'm on the same page.
Feb 2, 2015 10:47 AM

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Examples would help in this evil characters discussion.

Like Frieza for example?
Feb 2, 2015 10:49 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Examples would help in this evil characters discussion.

Like Frieza for example?

I don't know, never watched DB :/
Feb 2, 2015 10:49 AM

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Again, DIO is probably a really good recent example

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

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tsudecimo said:
Examples would help in this evil characters discussion.

Like Frieza for example?
Kefka.
Feb 2, 2015 10:50 AM

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Light is an example of an evil character
Feb 2, 2015 10:52 AM

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fst said:
Light is an example of an evil character

But he is an anti villain, so he doesn't fit what they are getting at.

JizzyHitler said:
Again, DIO is probably a really good recent example

Part 3 Dio.

Phantom Blood's was awful but that's just me.
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fst said:
Light is an example of an evil character
Nah, he became corrupted, and he wasn't any pure evil in first place. Frieza is a prime example of that
Feb 2, 2015 10:53 AM

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I don't actually know what you guys are talking about, but he does a really good evil laugh in the last episode, so I'm pretty sure he's evil.
Feb 2, 2015 10:54 AM

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hentai_eucli said:
StrayBotato said:
I still don't get your point.

Are you saying that people complain when characters are NOT morally ambiguous.
Or are you saying that people complain when the villains aren't fleshed out/developed/whatever?

I'm saying that people complain when the character is just an evil person. Even if his morality is hidden from us, it shouldn't be regarded as "not fleshed out/developed/whatever".
The treat it like evil people don't actually exist in reality, and evil actions have to be justified.

I hope I'm getting through
Eh that sounds to me like the first one.

Evil actions don't necessarily HAVE to be justified. For example, someone had a fucked up past and became a psychopath, explaining his situation doesn't 'justify' what he does, but it makes his motivations and thought process or whatever clearer.
Feb 2, 2015 10:57 AM

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tsudecimo said:
fst said:
Light is an example of an evil character

But he is an anti villain, so he doesn't fit what they are getting at.
What's the difference between an anti-villain and an anti-hero?

Also the way I see it Light starts out as an anti-hero, but somewhere along the line he becomes a full fledged villain.
Feb 2, 2015 10:59 AM

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StrayBotato said:
tsudecimo said:

But he is an anti villain, so he doesn't fit what they are getting at.
What's the difference between an anti-villain and an anti-hero?

Also the way I see it Light starts out as an anti-hero, but somewhere along the line he becomes a full fledged villain.

In basic understanding one is a hero and one is a villain.

An anti villain is ''a villain with heroic goals, personality traits, and/or virtues. Their desired ends are mostly good, but their means of getting there are evil. Alternatively, their desired ends are evil''

Light started with heroic goals, but went with the ends justifies the means mentality when he started killing cops and what not. And at the end of it, he becomes an all around villain with a serious god complex, through power corruption. And L is an obvious anti hero.

I'm more interested in where exactly Kiritsgu lies, I think he would be an anti hero, with a justice complex. Hmmm.
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tsudecimo said:
I'm more interested in where exactly Kiritsgu lies, I think he would be an anti hero, with a justice complex. Hmmm.


Kiritsugu's an anti-hero, to be more precise a Pragmatic Hero (one who uses any means to win)
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StrayBotato said:
hentai_eucli said:

I'm saying that people complain when the character is just an evil person. Even if his morality is hidden from us, it shouldn't be regarded as "not fleshed out/developed/whatever".
The treat it like evil people don't actually exist in reality, and evil actions have to be justified.

I hope I'm getting through
Eh that sounds to me like the first one.

Evil actions don't necessarily HAVE to be justified. For example, someone had a fucked up past and became a psychopath, explaining his situation doesn't 'justify' what he does, but it makes his motivations and thought process or whatever clearer.

You don't have to have a screwed up past to be an evil person, at least not in the way I think you're saying.

Maybe the villain in question thought cutting up animals was fun when they were a child and decided cutting up people would be fun too. There doesn't need to be abuse, loss of a loved one, or something like that to "justify" the character's evil traits.
Feb 2, 2015 11:12 AM
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Isn't kyubey(Madoka) a character of pure evil?

Or just some grey situation?
Feb 2, 2015 11:13 AM

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Mustang_Roy said:
Isn't kyubey(Madoka) a character of pure evil?

Or just some grey situation?

idk if you can call him evil when he is not aware that his actions are considered evil.
Feb 2, 2015 11:15 AM

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I like pure evil villains. Some characters are good/pure by nature therefore villains could be naturally evil.
Feb 2, 2015 11:16 AM

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babymimi said:
I like pure evil villains. Some characters are good/pure by nature therefore villains could be naturally evil.

Exactly. Thank you.
Feb 2, 2015 11:16 AM
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silverwalls said:
Mustang_Roy said:
Isn't kyubey(Madoka) a character of pure evil?

Or just some grey situation?

idk if you can call him evil when he is not aware that his actions are considered evil.


Eh.... Haven't watched it in years.
Anyway, if that's what he is, then it's probably some grey zone or situation.
Feb 2, 2015 11:17 AM

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Some people from here are gonna get banned :o
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Mustang_Roy said:
Isn't kyubey(Madoka) a character of pure evil?

Or just some grey situation?


Feb 2, 2015 11:20 AM

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tsudecimo said:
Some people from here are gonna get banned :o
Who? Where? Why?
Feb 2, 2015 11:21 AM

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derailment in some tsundere thread
Feb 2, 2015 11:22 AM

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i-its not like i was trying t-to derail it!
Feb 2, 2015 11:22 AM

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tsudecimo said:
derailment in some tsundere thread
and im barely a part of it lol shocker
Feb 2, 2015 11:22 AM

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Oh!

I realized that getting banned is not kool, not kool at all. i'll be good boi from now on.
Feb 2, 2015 11:22 AM

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it turned from a free! thread to a vegeta thread, boooooring.
Feb 2, 2015 11:23 AM

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TripleSRank said:
StrayBotato said:
Eh that sounds to me like the first one.

Evil actions don't necessarily HAVE to be justified. For example, someone had a fucked up past and became a psychopath, explaining his situation doesn't 'justify' what he does, but it makes his motivations and thought process or whatever clearer.

You don't have to have a screwed up past to be an evil person, at least not in the way I think you're saying.

Maybe the villain in question thought cutting up animals was fun when they were a child and decided cutting up people would be fun too. There doesn't need to be abuse, loss of a loved one, or something like that to "justify" the character's evil traits.
Again with my bad examples <.<

What you said works as well. That doesn't 'justify' the evil, but it makes the character more interesting. However, what I thought eucli was saying all this time was that people complain when the villain is just evil. As in, he kills people, but the viewers never get to know why he does it. He doesn't find it fun, he's not after revenge, he's not after money, he just does it for no reason.
Feb 2, 2015 11:24 AM

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dbz x free crossover when? kyoani, make it happen. goku needs a real manky voice actor
Feb 2, 2015 11:24 AM

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Is discussing Male Tsundere's really derailment? I guess spamming GIFs is sorta derailment, but it was a listing thread in the first place :|
Feb 2, 2015 11:25 AM

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silverwalls said:
it turned from a free! thread to a vegeta thread, boooooring.
Vageta >Rin
Feb 2, 2015 11:25 AM

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Feaor said:
Is discussing Male Tsundere's really derailment? I guess spamming GIFs is sorta derailment, but it was a listing thread in the first place :|

What do people expect from these sort of threads in the first place? >.>
Feb 2, 2015 11:26 AM

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Killaclown said:
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it turned from a free! thread to a vegeta thread, boooooring.
Vageta >Rin

Makoto > All
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Killaclown said:
silverwalls said:
it turned from a free! thread to a vegeta thread, boooooring.
Vageta >Rin
gasp

you take that back
☕ Truth be told, I'm quite proud of my house blend. To attain my flavor and fragrance, I use five different types of coffee beans. ☕
Feb 2, 2015 11:27 AM

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mayukachan said:
Killaclown said:
Vageta >Rin

Rin > All

+1
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robis798 said:
Feaor said:
Is discussing Male Tsundere's really derailment? I guess spamming GIFs is sorta derailment, but it was a listing thread in the first place :|

What do people expect from these sort of threads in the first place? >.>
that's what im always saying, some of us tend to turn threads that are against the rules or just bait/horrible into spam threads (until its locked)
Feb 2, 2015 11:29 AM

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Time for Yuri Kuma.
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That's because mods are incompetent.

How hard is it and how much time does it actually take, to click a few buttons, honestly..

But they are real good on banning people over trivial shit.
Feb 2, 2015 11:29 AM

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i might like rin more if his teeth were normal. but hey, ponytail rin is gr8
Feb 2, 2015 11:30 AM

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I should give Free! a 10 just because MAL seems to hate it for having bishounen and apparently being 'gay' when its not.
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Feaor said:
I should give Free! a 10 just because MAL seems to hate it for having bishounen and apparently being 'gay' when its not.
that's some weird logic you got
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mayukachan said:
i might like rin more if his teeth were normal. but hey, ponytail rin is gr8

the shark teeth are part of the charm
but of course, he always looks great :^)
Feb 2, 2015 11:33 AM

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If you're going to give anything a 10, it should be aldnoah

Which, I'm starting to wonder if that's a biblical reference
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Feaor said:
I should give Free! a 10 just because MAL seems to hate it for having bishounen and apparently being 'gay' when its not.

You've just earned some respect from a large fandom. lol
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