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Jun 9, 2017 12:45 PM
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Im glad that Mamika managed to not get killed in her battle with Altair though. But man to think that Mamika would be the first to be killed in this battle though and that the person that she told what she found out was the one unreliable person on the show Megane of all people. Her sacrifice as a result felt wasted as Megane will never tell the truth. Though Mamika did get to see Alice one last time its too bad Alice was unable to save her though. It was horrible to see Mamika's last words be twisted by Megane to use it as fuel to prolong the battle between the two sides and fan the flames of war once more though. While still being backed into a corner by Magane its nice to see that Souta too is also starting to realize whats happening as well. It was sad seeing Magane lay all the blame for Mamika's death on Souta though that on top of trying to get him to help her spread lies as well. Souta's psych was already fragile as it is and i worry whether can he take any more. The realization that Magane actually has no negative feelings of any kind does explain her personality quite a bit as she see's every event as a means to have fun. This makes her even more dangerous actually. The fight between Yuuya and of the fact that Meteora came to find Souta was both nice as well. Its nice that Souta is finally able to tell someone the past thats bee eating him up over these past weeks and that the person he told was Meteora though the most understanding of his allies and friends. Meteora's words to Souta after hearing the truth about his true worry and Mamika were pretty good and had a strong meaning to them. To atone for the fact that your actions have hurt someone the most important thing you should do is not to not forget them and use that as a reason to fight.

Even in battle Im surprised that Magane is still able to taunt Yuuya though. The fight between Yuuya and Magane was interesting though as though you will expect Yuuya to easily win Magane's abilities are easily negating his attacks which was surprising. Even with Meteora backing him up the fight against Magane looks pretty hard. Hangaku's entrance never cases to amaze me. It was interesting seeing Magane try and strike deals with Meteora though and her ignoring her lol. Loved the insert song that played near the end as well. It was nice seeing Meterora see through Magane's plans though through her past experiences and analyses of her modus operandi. And as expected Alice who's been misdirected by Magane is now here to get revenge for Mamika who she believes Meteora killed. With neither Selestia or Rui here to back them up this will be a hard fight.

Hmm it seems that Mamika barely managed to escape from military princess though. But it looks like she sustained pretty heavy injuries in their battle. Man Magane's casual disregard for casualties and injuries just rubs me the wrong way sometimes. Plus the fact that she also views others with contempt also helps as well. Hmm so in the end Mamika was able to confirm that Altair's plan really was to destroy this world and that Selestia and Meteora were correct in their accessment. Good thing that Alice got there in time to stop Megane Hmm even in the face of death itself Megane still isn't fazed at all. Got to admire her brashness and nature i guess. But man to think that Mamika is the first hero to die in this battle though. Thats pretty sad man. Man way to go to twist Mamika's dying words for your own amusement Magane. But its just like her nature i guess. Now Alice is more determined as ever to fight against Selestia's side. Hmm so Magane is still blackmailing Souta as well then eh. Magane is such a schemer though one that takes advantage of everyone that she meets along the way. It looks like Magane doesn't like her own universe that much as well. Souta should really tell Selestia and the others about the creator of Altair though. I can see why he's reluctant too given the fact that it was he who indirectly caused the death of Altair's creator but not doing so will cause Magane to use you even more. Souta really is stuck in a tough place here though thats for sure.

Hmm to think that Magane wants to prolong this battle by spreading disinformation that will make people distrust each other. How evil of her. Using Mamika's death and trying to pin it on Meteora as well though damm her. Despite that you have to admire the fact that Magane only has one purpose in this series and thats to cause confusion and spread disinformation. The definition trickster is apt term for her. Its nice that Souta is able to deduce who was actually responsible for killing Mamika though. But the realization that he himself was the trigger that ultimately cost Mamika her life must have been quite a blow. Hmm Yuuya managed to appear just in time here actually. Yuuya's words are straight to the point as always but in this case his words are right on the money. Magane's personality means that she will always try to take advantage of people and Souta being too kind is just the type she likes to control. Lol Yuuya's description of Magane was spot on. Hmm so Yuuya didn't come alone as Meteora came to back him up as well eh. I wonder did Meteora manage to perceive that Souta was hiding something when they last talked i wonder. Still its nice to see her again. There really wasn't anyway Meteora could have figured out how she could have helped Souta at least not without asking him directly about it and at that time he was trying hard to hide it as well. In truth both were careless.

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Jun 9, 2017 4:02 PM
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Solid episode, as it just setting up conflict for the next episode. Can't wait, sadly got a couple of complaints. I'm getting annoyed with the character of Magane and not for the psychotic murderer who enjoys toying with people reason. That's her character, I'm getting really irritated with her very over the top mannerism. It's just too overly conveyed and it just distracting as hell. It's not the only anime I've seen doe this, but that doesn't reduce it.

I was going to defined Alicetelia, saying she took Magane at her word as she just lost first friend of this word and she emotional. But when I let that sink in. didn't hold up. She an harden warrior, she seen constant death.

She should be as stoic and controlled as Saber from Fate. I can kind of forgive it as we need something to move the plot along. But it sucks hard to see characters acting unnaturally dump for the sake of the plot.
Jun 9, 2017 5:34 PM
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ernst_jp said:
dropped, so boring
way too many conversations
you guys are amazing keep discussing this shit
you have no pateince for anime and manga
Jun 10, 2017 8:47 AM

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RIP Mamika.

I hate it that Mamika was still able to talk and tell Magane to tell Alice the thing about Altair. I mean, come on, "Stop Altair, please" even just these 3 english words would use up very little amount of time in japanese language, and Mamika's last few seconds would be enough to say those words... -____- Forced. Too forced. </3

Uh.. Magane.. That yangire bitch.. She might just become my favorite. D:


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Jun 11, 2017 5:34 PM

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Hate to say it, but I'm glad they let Mamika die.

Megane's twisted dialog made this episode pretty enjoyable.

Alice... dumb as ever.
Jun 12, 2017 3:21 AM
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darklord213 said:
ernst_jp said:
dropped, so boring
way too many conversations
you guys are amazing keep discussing this shit
you have no pateince for anime and manga

yeah? how about spelling patience correctly?
i don't know how to say this in English, but a story needs Jo-ha-kyū, and this anime lacks it even after i watched 9 episodes of it
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Jun 20, 2017 9:28 AM

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Sad that Mamika died, probably my favorite character.

I'm really not into this show... it's kinda a pain to watch. If it doesn't hook my interest by episode 10, I'll probably drop. I just can't stand this Magane person and she's been featuring more and more in recent eps. They're trying so hard to make her 'crazy' and 'manipulative' but at least for me, it comes off as really forced and unoriginal.

I agree that there are too many conversations, as well. Especially since what attracted me to the show in the first place was the animation in fight scenes. Hoping it'll get better -- I really wanted to enjoy it.

FT_anime_fan said:
I'm getting annoyed with the character of Magane and not for the psychotic murderer who enjoys toying with people reason. That's her character, I'm getting really irritated with her very over the top mannerism. It's just too overly conveyed and it just distracting as hell. It's not the only anime I've seen doe this, but that doesn't reduce it.

Totally agree with the over-the-top mannerisms. Getting really tiring.
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Jun 20, 2017 1:15 PM
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Sad that Mamika died, probably my favorite character.

I'm really not into this show... it's kinda a pain to watch. If it doesn't hook my interest by episode 10, I'll probably drop. I just can't stand this Magane person and she's been featuring more and more in recent eps. They're trying so hard to make her 'crazy' and 'manipulative' but at least for me, it comes off as really forced and unoriginal.


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Jun 22, 2017 12:45 PM

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I still don't understand magane's power, the first time she can manifest a monster then negate other creation's ability? can someone explain how her "lie" mechanism affect reality in detail coz i'm lost whenever she said her catchphrase in both instances (the bookstore owner & yuuya)?
Jun 22, 2017 7:37 PM

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Altair believed in Magane, what a mistake. That scene between Sota and Magane was endless and boring, until the guy with the sword arrived.

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Jul 3, 2017 7:28 PM

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So the best or one of the best characters died :/
R.I.P Mamika.

I hate Magane so much, she is manipulating everything and everyone... And Alice fell into her lie.
But i do hope that she will change sides...
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Jul 13, 2017 8:34 AM

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Poor Mamika's death is going to be in vain since fucking Magane got to her first, FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKK

It's really frustrating to see her sink her effortlessly teeth into people like Sota and Alice especially since they're both so fucking irrational and stupid sometimes and I was gonna rage so hard if he believed that Meteora killed Mamika or if he actually went and instigated shit between Celesia and Meteora

Lord knows how happy I was to see best boy (The real MVP) and Meteora come and stop her from completely making me hate Sota because I was LIVID at that point lol, but finally this guy opened up (Sort of), but my only concern is that I hope that they all make it out alive, especially since Alice is here for revenge on best girl


To be fair to him at least he wasn't stupid enough to just believe her initial bullshit and at first he thought she killed Mamika and now triers to create a situation of blame and then he figured out the truth without ever simply following her initial lies like a certain moron did(looking at you Alice).

Btw am still confused how exactly that power of Magane works.
Aug 1, 2017 2:59 PM

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The problem is that Alice is dumb. And not just dumb, but in a convenient way. She first assumes Magane killed Mamika, but when she denies it, she immediately believes it. Mamika never outright stated that Magana didn't attack her or so. Then, despite somehow believing Magane, she still threatens her to not lie. And believes her when she spins her story.

The fact that Meteora did not really participate in the earlier fight, except for making shields, that Mamika didn't mention Meteora to her, that it would be easy to identify hundreds of stab wounds (i wonder which character likes to show of her sabers..) vs. something like a fireball or anything..

Mamika also was able to push back against all four in that fight, Alice + Blitz vs. Selesia + Meteora. But she died to Meteora alone, without anyone even noticing a fight? And Meteora isn't even there. She was able to leave that fast? Magane also never even said that Meteoraw was ever there, or where the fight happend or anything.

Alice is dumb in a way that makes this story possible. Thats the problem. If she just believed everything you told her she would at least constantly be switching sides, so not doing anything stupid. But no, when Altair or Magane talk to her, her brain switches off. Someone as experienced in fighting as her would have examined the wounds and interrogated Magane about the details.

Best of all: Assume it's all true. That means Meteora is so strong that she can kill Mamika without anyone noticing and without getting hit, and also escape really fast. And she doesn't even sweat while doing so. Now, Mamika held off everyone in that big fight as said above. They might not have gone *all out*, but assuming Mamika did is stupid in that ase. So what makes her believe she could defeat super strong Meteora, when Mamika stood no chance? That ties in with not asking Magane anything about the fight etc.

Aug 7, 2017 2:21 PM

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Sad that Mamika is really dead =/
Megane is a mean bi*ch!!!
Sep 16, 2017 8:05 AM

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So the teeth girl exists mainly to create more mini conflicts and slow down the non-existent progression of the story? Nice one.

2/5
Sep 26, 2017 4:13 PM

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Mamika not telling Alice directly in as few words as possible may have been dumb, but how straight would you be thinking if you had bled out even half that much?

Magane's comment about Mamika being so small but being able to bleed so much seemed to be a comment about how much anime characters can still bleed and stay conscious, much less alive. Given that Mamika was of course an anime character, there is a certain logic to it.
Sep 27, 2017 5:51 PM

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Btw am still confused how exactly that power of Magane works.


It's a little confusing to me too, but it's tied to lies. If she can provoke someone into making a true/false statement at her, she can make the lie "turn in on itself" to reverse cause-and-effect, so the truth becomes a lie.

In this case, the conversation was:

"This is no match for me. What do you think?"

"I've never met a girl who was fine after getting hit with this!"

Thus, she turned his statement into a lie by making it so that that attack would never hit her. Although I'm still not sure what the deal was with that demonic dog in the manga store.
Oct 13, 2017 9:29 AM

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This show is pretty enjoyable but yeah this was a bit of a stretch, im ok with a misunderstanding causing a conflict like this but i dont like how fucking stupid alice is. Like she just believed magane too fast and mamika totally could of said something to her even if she was delirious.

The scene of magana trying to manipulate souta was way better cause souta at least was not retarded enough to realize she gets off on lying.

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Jizzy, I know you have no idea how to argue for shit,

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Jizzy as you would call yourself because youre a dick The most butthurt award goes to you And clearly you havent watched that many shows thats why you cant determine if a show is unique or not Or maybe you're just a child who likes common stuffs where hero saves the day and guys gets all the girls. Sad taste you have there kid you came up to me in the first place making you look more like a kid who got slapped without me even knowing it and start crying about it to me

Jan 28, 2018 10:22 AM

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God Magane is such a conniving cunt!!!
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Feb 22, 2018 10:12 AM

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Damn, can't believe that Magane is actually becoming more of a villain character than the actual villain, Altair.

And I actually thought Mamika was gonna survive, considering she was still able to fly and stuff. Shame that she still died.

Feb 26, 2018 9:46 PM

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Alice is just a gullible idiot

Amazing how a character like that is the MC of her own story. Her world is doomed.
Mar 6, 2018 5:10 AM

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Wow Magane is one manipulative bitch! Looking forward to seeing how they'll bring her down. Somehow.
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Mar 30, 2018 5:11 PM

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Damn everything is really getting crazy! But it's quite interesting to see that they get dematerialised when they die tbh... I do wonder how the fight will turn out though! Let's see what's next.
Apr 27, 2018 2:39 AM
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Why does Magane turn me on so much?
Sep 29, 2018 2:18 AM
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I don't care what people said this anime is super meta and vey dramatic with twist of psychological value i love this anime. And i don;t care they use same battle music theme i still enjoy it. I love this anime and fuck the haters
Sep 30, 2018 12:00 PM

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I loved Mamika's voice when she shouted her last 'Magical Splash Flare'

Jan 24, 2019 7:32 PM

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Damn, Mamika died. They didn't even showed how she escaped against Altair.

Still, I guess she turns into virtual blocks once someone dies.

Magane is awesome!! That stupid Sota deserve all the mistakes he gets. Fucking fucking stupid kid. I seriously wanted to punch the monitor when he started crying like a little bitch.

I'm also disappointed that they still put a dark shadow under Magane's Pantsu. Even in the BD version. Like seriously, WTF. They should have shown her pantsu. This is BD for fucks sake.

Also Mirokuji and Magane's VA are real life husband and wife (Kenichi Suzumura and Maaya Sakamoto). It's funny to see the wife tease and taunt the husband throughout the match XD

Still, Her lies are truly a deadly weapon. She's also quick and agile. I want to see more of her summon monsters.

Next episode should be fun! Sit the fuck down Sota this time around.
Jul 15, 2020 1:39 AM
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You're just a laughing piece of skin hanging over a bunch of lies. that.
Sep 21, 2020 10:22 PM

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This episode was interesting I guess.

I just saw a large hole that really bothered me ever since. When Mamika was dying in Alice's arms, she used all her words to ask Magane to tell Alice what Mamika had said earlier. When she said this, I thought that she didn't have much time left, so telling Magane to tell Alice would be more efficient than getting cut off mid-story; however, after asking Magane, Mamika goes on to say "please" over and over again. She could've used all that time to just say, "Help Meteora defeat Altair," could she not? I was so irked by this.

Magane's character is really interesting. She's got the whole Gae Bolg-thing going on with her words, and, since there's no limits on magic, it seems limitless as long as she can speak. This seems super overpowered, and I love seeing how her twisted character can play with those around her. I was also pleasantly surprised by Magane's detective reasoning-- how she had put together that Souta had pushed Shimazaki to suicide felt almost Sherlock Holmes-like.

Alice seems to me to be a poorly written character (by her creator, not by the writer of Re:Creators). She feels completely one-note: honor and fighting for the protection of those she values is really the whole of her character. It really saddened to see how Alice was so easily led on by Magane, since she lacked the depth of character to look past Magane's words and at her potential intentions.

Souta's crying and is finally coming out with the story he had withheld for so many episodes. Took long enough.
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AAAHHH she still ate the hot dog pogo stick whatever even after it got an extra dose of ketchup AAAHHH who is this psychopath!!!!


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Dec 12, 2022 4:39 AM

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Damn how dense is Alicetaria? I don't think you have many main characters of shows that have character descriptions that are this deliberately gullible. They really need to clear up this nonsense quickly, it's starting to feel like forced drama.
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The dialogues with Magane was incredibly well thought. You might think she's just saying nonsense with all her blabbering but that's how her character goes and the direction of the show really puts emphasis on it. In effect, this puts a resounding effect on the other characters that creates an dynamic change with them. With all this current conflict, we see a standing of the characters that sets the pace of the battle. As we see the result of Meteora-and-Alice rivalry, then surely another conflict arises that would bring closer to the big picture if it's already revealed or not. Who knows what the next episodes bring!

P.S. Love the banter between Mirokuji & Magane <3
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Sota is so fucking annoying like yeah your friend offed themslves because of you being insecure over their talent but it's not like YOU pushed her in front of the train,,,

plus you gotta to be so fuckin mentally weak to off yourself over people not liking a bootleg character from a mobile game 💀
 

Sep 22, 2023 10:22 PM

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"Congratulations! Your hit count has went up to two!" Holy shit i actually spat my coffee out at that scene. Magane is crazy, like actually sick and i love her lmao. Wild card villains are always some of my favourite characters, not necessary having a side and kinda third partying and creating new issues for both sides, but at the end the problems create some sort of plot or character development.
She has genuinely managed to hook me some what back into the plot since she decided to cook with fire and spice shit up, also her high energy personality and voice acting is amazing to watch.

Lmao is it bad that i'm more interested and attached to the villains of the show then anyone else.

In total, what Magane did was fucked from how she's her own mastermind and created unnecessary strife and turmoil, and also give Souta a reality slap. BUT she did some-what honour Mamika's wish, just changed the wordings about and still mentioned the words "destroy the world" and "Altair" in the same sentence, just Alice prioritised Mamika's revenge. She might of put the blame on Meteora and cause Souta to doubt her alliance, but from it we get a killa Meteora v Alice fight scene, and Souta kinda needed the character development through the reality slap and the breakdown so he can let go and become stronger as an individual (hopefully).
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I kinda like that magane-chan, she just look annoying and complicated like- "is she lying? or not?" 😆

damn, that ms. knight's stupidity is just ruining everything bruh, what's with her low-iq? XD come on
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At this point I honestly just want the psychopath girl to win. She's pretty much carrying the show right now, while everyone else bar maybe Meteora act like complete imbeciles. Sota especially deserves the worst possible outcome, cause he's done pretty much everything in his power to steer things in that direction.

Obviously she won't win, but I'll root for her until it inevitably goes wrong anyway.
May 27, 2024 3:31 PM

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This has to be the most gullible knight out there
you could say she killed mamika and she would actually believe it and attack herself

Mc despite being from modern age he has the same intelligence as a medieval peasant just like the knight
Being able to read and write is his greatest achievement in life unlike a peasant

Magane's psychology is something only toddlers would fall for. Except majority of characters have a toddler level intelligence
shes hot so its fine
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