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Aug 25, 2019 10:36 AM

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I'm really digging Vinland Saga's characters, story, and world.
Despite the matter that there are some contents i'm uncomfortable with in this series, the execution and journey of our main character really captivates me.

Thorfinn's struggle reminds me if the perspective of the story in Naruto was shifted to Sasuke, it could possibly have really similar vibes.
Aug 25, 2019 10:42 AM

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Pig_on_the_knee said:
Food for thought. If AskelaDD and his rape laDDs weren't rapists they'd all be incels. Really makes you think.

Not really, they would be more like fighters in out current time out for the blood jus in more legal ways like ufc mma.
Also dont forget in those times nearly everyone was a rapist from a mercenary to a legal soldier, each and every one who fights does at the end of the day for the loot they get when they defeat the enemy including the women.
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Aug 25, 2019 10:42 AM
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This episode dives deeper into thorfinn's character... overall it was a very good episode 5/5
Aug 25, 2019 10:50 AM
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The most pleasant episode I have seen so far. PROPER representation of combat between Thorfinn and Askeladd, remarks on slavery and materialism... If only everyone was so spiritually elevated back in 1000s.
I find it conflicting how Askeladd's crew is depicted slaughtering villages and raiding people, and then they get back home where they are welcomed, they laugh together with other families and even touch children - it appears so surreal. Except that it is how the world is, no matter how malicious and evil, yours is prioritized over theirs and no one questions their brethren. I do not know if there was really such a parallel here, as envisioned by the author, but it just struck me as... conflicting.

Sheragin said:
I'm really digging Vinland Saga's characters, story, and world.
Despite the matter that there are some contents i'm uncomfortable with in this series, the execution and journey of our main character really captivates me.

I could say I am feeling the same. While there are things I would lengthily criticize, I would like to see this series end as something positive. We will see, of course. But my faith is strong here.
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Aug 25, 2019 10:50 AM

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Does anyone know what'll happen to the slave girl? I don't mind being spoiled though.

This anime NEVER disappoints!
Aug 25, 2019 10:51 AM
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HopefulNihilist said:
I really loved the more quiet scenes in this episode. I feel like Vinland Saga really shines with these kind of scenes.


This. I can't stress enough how great it is to finally see anime that utilizes "show, don't tell" so well and thus showcases great characters and writing overall in it's fullest.

We don't go into characters mind, noone mumbles/narrates how he feels or what he sees - it's all in the lines, facial expressions, actions.
Aug 25, 2019 10:52 AM

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Does anyone know what'll happen to the slave girl? I don't mind being spoiled though.

This anime NEVER disappoints!


Aug 25, 2019 10:52 AM

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Great episode

we got to see the duel nicely adapted and the teaching that pure rage can't bring victory,you need to calm your head to gain victory.

Everyone is a slave to something;be it money,slave master or even revenge.


Hordaland was nice,i really liked her,i remember when i first read the manga i instantly shipped her with Thorfinn.


Also Canute made his first appearance


And Thorkell even in his brief appearance showed his feats,get ready for next episode to see more crazy feats of his.
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magictuch said:
HopefulNihilist said:
I really loved the more quiet scenes in this episode. I feel like Vinland Saga really shines with these kind of scenes.


This. I can't stress enough how great it is to finally see anime that utilizes "show, don't tell" so well and thus showcases great characters and writing overall in it's fullest.

We don't go into characters mind, noone mumbles/narrates how he feels or what he sees - it's all in the lines, facial expressions, actions.

That should be credited to the veteran author behind this series. Of course, for now all we can do is speculate why Askeladd does that, why his crew does this, but in general terms I believe it is made rather obvious why they are doing most of these things even though it goes against the logic of the time. One day they should openly go and say it, but for now facial expressions, glances and head tilts symbolize their outlook on life. Just like it usually happens in thought-out art works.

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Great episode

we got to see the duel nicely adapted and the teaching that pure rage can't bring victory,you need to calm your head to gain victory.

Everyone is a slave to something;be it money,slave master or even revenge.


Hordaland was nice,i really liked her,i remember when i first read the manga i instantly shipped her with Thorfinn.


Also Canute amde his first appearance


And Thorkell even in his brief appearance showed his feats,get ready for next episode to see more crazy feats of his.

Daddy daddy is it going to be completely absurd without any attempt to tone it down to real combat?

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Daniel_Naumov said:
Arjuna777 said:
Great episode

we got to see the duel nicely adapted and the teaching that pure rage can't bring victory,you need to calm your head to gain victory.

Everyone is a slave to something;be it money,slave master or even revenge.


Hordaland was nice,i really liked her,i remember when i first read the manga i instantly shipped her with Thorfinn.


Also Canute amde his first appearance


And Thorkell even in his brief appearance showed his feats,get ready for next episode to see more crazy feats of his.

Daddy daddy is it going to be completely absurd without any attempt to tone it down to real combat?


Well historically Vikings had stronger bodies compared to normal people,i read in a book that a strong viking warrior could cut down 3 people in a single sword slash.

So feats you are going to see next episode will be crazy


it's a secret ta-da








Aug 25, 2019 11:01 AM

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Tsarko said:
pastofdraw said:
Does anyone know what'll happen to the slave girl? I don't mind being spoiled though.

This anime NEVER disappoints!




Oh, I see - sucks seeing girls get abused in this anime. Appreciate the reply!
Aug 25, 2019 11:01 AM

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Pretty frustrating that Thorfinn would fall for such an obvious trick tbh.

yea, it was pretty obvious where that was gonna go as soon as Askeladd started talking

but that's what character development is for amirite
Aug 25, 2019 11:01 AM

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AcceleratorAngel said:
Pig_on_the_knee said:
Food for thought. If AskelaDD and his rape laDDs weren't rapists they'd all be incels. Really makes you think.

Not really, they would be more like fighters in out current time out for the blood jus in more legal ways like ufc mma.
Also dont forget in those times nearly everyone was a rapist from a mercenary to a legal soldier, each and every one who fights does at the end of the day for the loot they get when they defeat the enemy including the women.


I imagine they'd just be garden variety gangbangers if they were alive now, but that's not what I meant.
Aug 25, 2019 11:05 AM
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The show moves between action and softer emotional scenes so well. I hate Askeladd for playing mind games with Thorfinn. Seems to be his MO since he did the same with Thors - when he's losing he distracts.
Aug 25, 2019 11:05 AM
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I read this chapter soo long ago that I had completely forgotten about the slave girl. It's an important scene though because it reveals that despite Thorfinn almost becoming feral, he still retains a strong memory of the stories Leif told him.

Thorkell is here!! Love that guy and his over the top ways.
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Aug 25, 2019 11:06 AM

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Everything about this episode—from the duel to the night scene—was absolutely terrific. The fact they dropped one of Askeladd's best quotes from the manga and Thorfinn's Vinland monologue from the trailer made me shiver with delight. We finally get to see a glimpse of Canute and Thorkell at last.

Kudos to WIT for the stellar adaptation so far!
Aug 25, 2019 11:10 AM
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pastofdraw said:
Tsarko said:




Oh, I see - sucks seeing girls get abused in this anime. Appreciate the reply!

But that is literally what slave girls were subject to during the Dark Ages of Vikingship. Chances are your grand-grand-grand-...mother was either abused or an abuser. You can disagree with such treatment, but you can't deny the fact that it was real. Still is, somewhere (looking at you Japan).
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Aug 25, 2019 11:14 AM

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Well saw Thorfin loosing that way from a mile away. He honed his skill but still needs to control his temper.
Aug 25, 2019 11:24 AM
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Really hoping that the new slave girl Hondland is gonna end up being just as kickass cool as Thorfinn! ^_^
Aug 25, 2019 11:28 AM
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Great episode from the homecoming to the questions about slavery. Thorfinn is becoming a person that even his father can't give answers to. Now on the Danish conquest of England
Aug 25, 2019 11:28 AM
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Thorfinn loses to Askeladd by being emotionally provoked

and does Thorfinn got a waifu now? nice one

oh wow that big guy in episode 1 with Thors in a past war showed up again huh

Aug 25, 2019 11:29 AM

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I just can't wait for Thorkell. He is a rather fun character.
Aug 25, 2019 11:32 AM

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The result of the fight of Virginn against Chadskeladd was pretty obvious, but it was a nice battle still. It just shows Thorfinn still has a long way to go and needs to mature.
Scene with the slave girl was good. It is also nice to see Thors again, even if it is only in a dream. It is also shows that Thorfinn still remembers the stories of his childhood despite his current revenge-driven personality.

The viking at the end looks like a pretty dope character. Cannot wait to see more of him.
Aug 25, 2019 11:35 AM
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I guess Thorfinn is still just a child, getting provoked so easily. Expected outcome.

Some things are building up, looking good.
Aug 25, 2019 11:35 AM

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Great stuff.
voice is just too perfect.
Aug 25, 2019 12:06 PM
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I kept screaming at Thorfinn to not get riled up by askeladd but well, nothing could have been done. He has all the right to be pissed. I still don't agree with his father's philosophy. There are very little people, especially in the kind of world they live, that don't have enemies. Why should you not get revenge if it can help you to move on?

Poor slave girl, the thing is that even if she were to try to escape, what can she to when she is a thing person and she is against burly men? probably not much. It was very insensitive for Thorfinn to just assume anyone can go about it the way he has. He started as a kid yes, but he is still a guy. That girl just by being a girl has way more things to worry about. I really liked this episode and appreciated not seeing as much CG as the last one. I still think the boats look horrendous.
Aug 25, 2019 12:18 PM
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It was a fun duel but Thorfinn needs to learn how to control his emotions.
I feel sorry for the slave girl I wounder if she is going to be Thorfinn love interest in the future. Can't wait for more.
Aug 25, 2019 12:19 PM
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I'm glad they adapted the askeladd analogy well, I like how it is present

scares me that totally empty negative review of the anime have so many helpful
Aug 25, 2019 12:53 PM

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There passed more than one year since Thors' dead right? Kinda sounded like they come back to their village every year but no one seemed to know Thorfinn... But he's been with them for a couple years now right

Thorfinn's skills are really good ngl. His emotions really get in the way tho

And damn Thorkell.. Talkin 'bout badass

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Aug 25, 2019 1:19 PM

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The show moves between action and softer emotional scenes so well. I hate Askeladd for playing mind games with Thorfinn. Seems to be his MO since he did the same with Thors - when he's losing he distracts.

he's teaching him a lesson , Thorfinn is no match for Askeladd obviously .
Aug 25, 2019 1:23 PM

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Best episode so far and beautifully adapted at that. Best girl Thorkell at the end made the finale pure hype!
Aug 25, 2019 2:07 PM

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Thorfinn could've won that duel if he hadn't let Askeladd goad him like that but that's something he's learnt now so next time he'll be even stronger! I can't believe Askeladd actually fucking broke his arm though 😤

I found the scene where Thorfinn was describing Vinland to the slave girl really sad... they're both hurting from their past and i found it sweet that Thorfinn shared that hope with her.

I can't believe how much i'm learning from this series too. Obviously, as a British person i know most of the history but it's always been very patchy and i got confused with the chronology but this anime is teaching me sooooo much
Aug 25, 2019 3:00 PM

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Really enjoyed this episode. The duel between Thorfinn and Askeladd was interesting, and I don't think there's much of a gap in ability anymore between the two. Thorfinn was more than holding his own until his opponent started playing psychological warfare.

Askeladd's clearly the more experienced warrior, capable of thinking on his feet and knowing which buttons to push to expose his enemies weaknesses and take advantage, whilst Thorfinn is still prone to letting his emotions get the better of him.

The OST is the 2nd half of the EP was really good. I see Best Girl has made an appearance too.

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magictuch said:
HopefulNihilist said:
I really loved the more quiet scenes in this episode. I feel like Vinland Saga really shines with these kind of scenes.


This. I can't stress enough how great it is to finally see anime that utilizes "show, don't tell" so well and thus showcases great characters and writing overall in it's fullest.

We don't go into characters mind, noone mumbles/narrates how he feels or what he sees - it's all in the lines, facial expressions, actions.


I don't understand: where in this episode did it display "show don't tell"?

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There passed more than one year since Thors' dead right? Kinda sounded like they come back to their village every year but no one seemed to know Thorfinn... But he's been with them for a couple years now right


Yeah, that is weird. I didn't notice it until you mentioned it. I guess even this series isn't perfect.

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Aug 25, 2019 3:33 PM

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As a non-manga reader, the series has been amazing so far. Also, the opening and ending songs are very good.

But for this episode, I facepalmed when Thorfinn immediately fell for Askeladd's cheap trick. Such a shounen MC thing to do...
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Maybe "hoard the land" knows "hold the door"
Aug 25, 2019 4:13 PM

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that axe throw in the end is fucking crazy! Thorkell sure is a force to be reckoned with! He also looks like Askeladd... :/

Thorfinn definitely needs to work on his control more. The worst thing you can let happen to you is allow your emotions to control your actions. When he's overwhelmed with rage, his swings become unnecessarily big which exposes the rest of his body open to attacks.

Can't wait to see Canute's face animated.

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He started as a kid yes, but he is still a guy. That girl just by being a girl has way more things to worry about.

Like what? I see no difference. She could easily assassinate her master when he's sleeping. Size is no difference when it comes to silent, stealthy attacks. It's her innocence that is in the way. She has to get it through her head that in the time period she lives in it's kill or be killed.
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There passed more than one year since Thors' dead right? Kinda sounded like they come back to their village every year but no one seemed to know Thorfinn... But he's been with them for a couple years now right

Thorfinn's skills are really good ngl. His emotions really get in the way tho

And damn Thorkell.. Talkin 'bout badass


He is one guy out of a crew of 93-100 guys. Most would just think of him as some kid or thrall slave and wouldn't pay attention to him. Even in the manga it's implied this is the first time really Thorfinn showed his abilities to the village.

Finally get to see Canute and his bodyguard plus Thorkell excited for what is to come.
Aug 25, 2019 4:43 PM

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I like Askeladd more and more each episode.
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god dang feel bad for the slave girl and thorfinn with that flashback can't wait for next week episode
Aug 25, 2019 4:51 PM
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Probably Thorfinn will fight again against Askeladd

Because I refuse to believe that this was their main fight.

because if it was it was very disappointing 😐
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Aug 25, 2019 4:51 PM

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So the pirate boys have finally made it home.
Well well, never expected Askeladd's village to be one war-loving country. Plus that harem...(though I swear they snug a male VA in that midst for gender equality).

Finally the fuel between Askeladd and Thorfinn gets underway. Master manipulator if I could call one, on top with his cunning psychological talk that defeated Thorfinn mentally.

The moment where the slave girl Hordaland and Thorfinn really clicked was one of admonishment about their own future. Everyone is a slave to something.

Some important people are on the way...Canute and Thorkell the Tall. The moment the axe came in, it was brutal.

Another filler episode(?), but as is with the past, it was done exceptionally well and adds to characterization.
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that axe throw in the end is fucking crazy! Thorkell sure is a force to be reckoned with! He also looks like Askeladd... :/

Thorfinn definitely needs to work on his control more. The worst thing you can let happen to you is allow your emotions to control your actions. When he's overwhelmed with rage, his swings become unnecessarily big which exposes the rest of his body open to attacks.

Can't wait to see Canute's face animated.

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He started as a kid yes, but he is still a guy. That girl just by being a girl has way more things to worry about.

Like what? I see no difference. She could easily assassinate her master when he's sleeping. Size is no difference when it comes to silent, stealthy attacks. It's her innocence that is in the way. She has to get it through her head that in the time period she lives in it's kill or be killed.
like she could get raped? just look at the environment.
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K1ngOfSloth said:
There passed more than one year since Thors' dead right? Kinda sounded like they come back to their village every year but no one seemed to know Thorfinn... But he's been with them for a couple years now right

Thorfinn's skills are really good ngl. His emotions really get in the way tho

And damn Thorkell.. Talkin 'bout badass


Thorfinn dosent realy stand out, he is just a kid for most, no one realised he was from Askellad's crew until the duel.
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Good episode! At last we could see the duel between Thorfinn and Askeladd, Thorfinn was fighting very well, but Askeladd is a cunning old man and with his words he opened Thorfinn's wound, which made Thorfinn lose control and get carried away with rage. True, he is not ready yet, it is painful, but he must learn to control his emotions. The slightest mistake in a fight could mean death.

It was a sad and moving scene when Thorfinn talks to his father, Thors, in a dream. My heart broke instantly. And also when he spoke to the slave girl, Hordaland, about Vinland.

On the other hand, the war between the Danes and the English has resumed its course. Now there is much more action. That damn Floki is still alive, although he looks much older than Askeladd.

Ps: I know this is not that kind of anime, but I already matched Thorfinn with Hordaland, although I better completely forget about that.

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Thorfinn saying he has no idea how being a slave feels like to Hordaland but ironically he doesn't realise that he's technically a slave to Askeladd. I guess he'll figure that out someday...

Good episode.
Aug 25, 2019 6:27 PM

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great episode! things are getting better and better.
Aug 25, 2019 6:38 PM
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I can't wait 1 more week for 1 more episode T_T
Great character development, great fight, cool emotions when Thors come back in Thorfinn's dream. 5/5 episode.
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beminim said:
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that axe throw in the end is fucking crazy! Thorkell sure is a force to be reckoned with! He also looks like Askeladd... :/

Thorfinn definitely needs to work on his control more. The worst thing you can let happen to you is allow your emotions to control your actions. When he's overwhelmed with rage, his swings become unnecessarily big which exposes the rest of his body open to attacks.

Can't wait to see Canute's face animated.


Like what? I see no difference. She could easily assassinate her master when he's sleeping. Size is no difference when it comes to silent, stealthy attacks. It's her innocence that is in the way. She has to get it through her head that in the time period she lives in it's kill or be killed.
like she could get raped? just look at the environment.
1. anyone can get raped 2. all she gotta do is kill him in his sleep and escape during the night.
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like she could get raped? just look at the environment.
1. anyone can get raped 2. all she gotta do is kill him in his sleep and escape during the night.
1. women are more prone to rape than men. 2. not really, there are many things that can happen while she escapes.Even if she didn't have the mentality of not killing, which is stupid of her in the conditions she's in anyway, it is a very low chance of her actually escaping without any problems.
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