Kamisama Hajimemashita: Kako-hen Episode 4 Discussion

Sep 21, 2016 11:57 AM

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I've just watched the 4th episode of the Kako Hen. I haven't read the manga so I have some questions! How did Nanami found the hair pin in the future? We saw Kuromaro eating in the past. Also how did Tomoe buy it in the first place to give it back to Nanami? All this time travelling got me dizzy! Overall it was an awesome episode and my feels are scattered everywhere!

Sep 24, 2016 5:43 PM

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It was worth the wait!!
(Heart eyes)
I didn't read the manga and I bet both the falling in love with Nanami-Yukiji and the reconciliation in the future were more clearly and largely developed.
But I have a wide imagination and I can see it all from this last episode!!
LOVED IT!! *-*

Oct 9, 2016 2:36 PM

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Must say I dislike Nanami and the way her mind works.
"We met again after 500 years with our memories lost." Now she's talking like she really was Yukiji. That's just stupid. Sometimes I feel she thinks too high of herself.

But the episode itself was otherwise good. Tomoe is very cute when he's in love. <3
Great 4 episodes.

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Oct 10, 2016 4:32 PM

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yoite- said:
Must say I dislike Nanami and the way her mind works.
"We met again after 500 years with our memories lost." Now she's talking like she really was Yukiji. That's just stupid. Sometimes I feel she thinks too high of herself.

Nanami didn't say that. She said, "Five centuries have gone by and you may not recall. We met through very different circumstances."

It was only Tomoe who forgot because it's he who was under Mikage's forgetting spell and it's been hundreds of years. While for Nanami, everything is still fresh to her regarding the past due to her time skips.

Nevertheless, Nanami is the "Yukiji" Tomoe fell in love with. Time travel is in a loop in this story, not that of parallel worlds. Nanami got to live pretending as Yukiji just recently.

Overall, I think they should have made the whole Past Arc a third season. There are too many connections and character developments that would have been explored deeper. We should have gotten more background on Akura-ou, Furball, Mizuki's former goddess, and Yukiji's story with Tomoe...

(P.S. I translated and subbed the 4 KH Past Arc OADs with my fellow KH Addicts team, but most of you have read different subs for this last episode. If you have any other questions, feel free to message me. ^^)

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Oct 12, 2016 5:06 PM

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witchhuntress said:

yoite- said:
Must say I dislike Nanami and the way her mind works.
"We met again after 500 years with our memories lost." Now she's talking like she really was Yukiji. That's just stupid. Sometimes I feel she thinks too high of herself.

Nanami didn't say that. She said, "Five centuries have gone by and you may not recall. We met through very different circumstances."

Okay, then there was very bad translation. I was wondering it didn't make any sense. Thanks for correcting. :)

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Oct 13, 2016 4:44 AM

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So Nanami is really related to Yukiji, she tried her best to bring Tomoe back, it was nice to see them kissing. 7/10

Oct 13, 2016 6:04 PM

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Was it only me that started crying tears of joy at the end?
I mean I've been wishing for this to happen but just, wow.
Anyway, that's another anime to add onto the list of animes that have made me cry:
-Inu Yasha
-Hybrid Child
-Cory in The House
-Kamisama Hajimemashita

Nov 8, 2016 12:50 PM

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yoite- said:

witchhuntress said:

Nanami didn't say that. She said, "Five centuries have gone by and you may not recall. We met through very different circumstances."

Okay, then there was very bad translation. I was wondering it didn't make any sense. Thanks for correcting. :)

I wouldn't say that they were that horrible. they met without knowing that they had already met previously (timewise - for Tomoe it had already and Nanami didn't know that it has happened before she did it in her future).

Apr 2, 2017 1:13 PM

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Now everything's getting clear!
But there wasn't revealed if Akura-ou recovered his body...

I liked this shoujo, because it wasn't as brainless as the others xD And, what is strange, I liked the main female character. But actually there was anyone who distinguished himself among other characters... In terms of humor, the anime is also weak. But I liked spending time watching it xD

I'll give it like... 7/10 or 6,5/10

Apr 3, 2017 3:56 AM

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I adore Nanami. And I support Tomoe x Nanami now, this arc was too good. Gah. 9/10

Apr 17, 2017 5:24 PM

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MidnightSentinal said:
I've been waiting so long to see this and I am so glad the subs finally came out, but I was a little disappointed by what was left out from the manga.

Still, happy this ship has finally sailed.

BRUUUUH, SHARE THE SCANS. NOW.
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this was pretty much a waste of time. i don't get how nanami didn't completely wreck up time, and tomoe fell in love with his lover's technical daughter. how on earth is that romantic in even the slightest of sense? not only that, i'm doubting tomoe loves her at all and isn't instead using her as yukiji 2.0.

i can't believe i once praised this story to be on par with the utter masterpiece tonari no kaibutsu kun. this slightly pedophilic story gives me so much creeps. if another season is announced i may just drop it unless there is something more interesting than this message.

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Jul 2, 2017 7:20 PM

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IT'S SO GOOOOOOOOOODDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

/SOBSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

TT^TT

THEY'RE SO FUCKING CUTE TOGETHER.

I love how Nanami shoved Mikage-sama aside LMFAO. Poor Mikage xD

Aug 27, 2017 7:16 PM

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Really lovely ending of this OVA season, still find it sad that this series end, from the start I already liked it and I still love it! Really impressive I must say and I'm glad I've watched this after awhile.

Aug 29, 2017 7:14 AM

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What happened to Akura-ou?

Sep 1, 2017 11:30 PM

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So in this episode, does Tomoe realize the truth about the whole situation? Because at the end, it seemed kind of rushed and a bit unclear (that could just be me though) whether he was happy to see Nanami because she was Yukiji's descendant, or because he understands what happened.

Sep 25, 2017 7:23 PM

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TomDay said:

MidnightSentinal said:
I've been waiting so long to see this and I am so glad the subs finally came out, but I was a little disappointed by what was left out from the manga.

Still, happy this ship has finally sailed.

BRUUUUH, SHARE THE SCANS. NOW.
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this was pretty much a waste of time. i don't get how nanami didn't completely wreck up time, and tomoe fell in love with his lover's technical daughter. how on earth is that romantic in even the slightest of sense? not only that, i'm doubting tomoe loves her at all and isn't instead using her as yukiji 2.0.

i can't believe i once praised this story to be on par with the utter masterpiece tonari no kaibutsu kun. this slightly pedophilic story gives me so much creeps if another season is announced i may just drop it unless there is something more interesting than this message.

This reply probably is not needed, but I wanna make it clear anyway.

As an explanation for the time travel, think of it this way: there are three types of time travel (that I know of), one where you travel to the past and effectively change the future, one where you travel to the past and create a whole new parallel universe with a different future, and well... this- one where you travel to the past and end up not changing anything because it is what happened. For example, you are attacked by a monster, but is miraculously saved by a mysterious person. Later on, you travel to the past to learn who saved you, but no one was coming, so you end up fighting the monster to save your past self- as it turns out, you were the mysterious person all along, and you were saved because your future self time traveled.

That's the explanation for the time travel in this series. This also means that Tomoe never fell in love in Yukiji. Yukiji hated youkai, so she never would have saved him- and she made that clear. The one Tomoe fell in love with all along was "Yukiji"- Nanami who pretended to be Yukiji.

That time when Nanami saw him trying to give Yukiji the Dragon Eye was Tomoe thinking that Yukiji was "Yukiji".

The reason why he liked those rice cakes (sasamochi)? -Because Nanami thought he did, and gave it to him in the past which made him like them in the future.

So yeah, he was never in love with Yukiji; the one he fell in love with all along was "Yukiji".

I hope that makes sense now?

Oct 28, 2017 7:48 AM

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"I'm already all yours, Tomoe" ♥

10/5

Feb 24, 2018 1:49 PM

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I hope they marry for real, I really love these two. Nanami not giving up on Tomoe was commendable and she deserves all the happiness. I didn't like the farfetched twist of the story, that Tomoe originally fell in love with Nanami not Yuiji. I wasn't impressed because I thought they sensationalised the story for hopeless romantics. Only reason I gave my rating was because I really love Tomoe being with Nanami so bad, that i planned to watch the second season( watched), the ova( this one) and the special( haven't but will) at the same time after watching the first season.

I hope to watch season 3 if it will come out soon in the future, I just love the theme ( fox and human fall in love).

8/10.

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Mar 23, 2018 11:49 AM

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Good episode. I totally got it right when I predicted that Nanami is Yukiji's relative. I would want to see what happens when they marry each other.

At least everything fits now. Nice series.

Without change,we end up becoming the very person we hate.

I was dead until the moment I met you. I was a powerless corpse pretending to be alive. Living without power, without the ability to change my course, was bound to lead me to a slow death.

Sep 14, 2018 5:27 AM

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This OVA represents everything that's wrong with the series, and shoujo in general. There are good things about it but throughout the whole OVA I couldn't stop thinking about the bad parts.

So basically Nanami is the original Yukiji that Tomoe fell in love with.. I don't like that because the timeline is basically a loop where future person goes back to the past and when past becomes future, it will continue the loop. Not only that, it seems like this show is trying to make it everything Nanami-related. Can't stand Tomoe having a past lover? Make the past lover Nanami, problem solved. The way he fell in love with her doesn't make any sort of sense. So basically she's literally the only person who've ever treated Tomoe the way she did.. yea that's totally not the base plot point for every popular girl shoujo romance ever, "this guy doesn't lewd me the same as all the other guys out there, omg do i love him????"

Another problem is that Nanami tries to do everything, even if she has to do it herself. That stubbornness is annoying because she's not strong enough to do so, and often had to be bailed out by her cries of "Tomoe.. Tomoe, tasukete!!!", and in a cliche fashion, Tomoe arrives like a white knight riding a horse. I like that she's headstrong, I do like her type of character, but as I previously mentioned in season 2, the portrayal of her character in this series is so bad it makes her really annoying.

I appreciate the pretty interesting story writing here but the contrast of evil Tomoe vs in-love Tomoe is so huge, I could only conclude that the reason Tomoe even kept up with Nanami in the past is because she is the heroine of this story. I see no other reason if you ask me. The current timeline fits better because it would make more sense if Tomoe mellowed out after a thousand years and not as murderous as in the past.

I probably would've liked this a lot if I was 10 years younger.

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Dec 20, 2018 7:13 AM

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Shinsuke_Sama said:

Nanami is one of the better Shoujo protagonists.

Nanami is fantastic

Jul 20, 2019 4:11 PM

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As if the first time paradox wasn't enough (the Namami-Yukiji misunderstanding), let's stack two others (the hairpin and Mikage's choosing of Nanami) and add a useless filiation too for good measure. Terrible writing, only merit it has is it's a quick conclusion, which is a shame because everything before this arc was pretty good and I hoped the story would go on longer.

Aug 4, 2019 3:14 AM

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god, i loved it !! :')

Sep 19, 2019 7:28 AM

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I just finished watching S2 and Kako-hen and have some doubts still. So Yukiji gave birth to a child with a human daimyou she married, right? And Nanami is her descendant. But does this mean that Tomoe never lived with Yukiji? Or after he left Nanami at the Daimyou's house, on Nanami's second travel into the past, he went back and took Yukiji from there and they lived together till she died?

Nov 10, 2019 11:30 AM

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ShinyPsyche said:

TomDay said:

BRUUUUH, SHARE THE SCANS. NOW.
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this was pretty much a waste of time. i don't get how nanami didn't completely wreck up time, and tomoe fell in love with his lover's technical daughter. how on earth is that romantic in even the slightest of sense? not only that, i'm doubting tomoe loves her at all and isn't instead using her as yukiji 2.0.

i can't believe i once praised this story to be on par with the utter masterpiece tonari no kaibutsu kun. this slightly pedophilic story gives me so much creeps if another season is announced i may just drop it unless there is something more interesting than this message.

This reply probably is not needed, but I wanna make it clear anyway.

As an explanation for the time travel, think of it this way: there are three types of time travel (that I know of), one where you travel to the past and effectively change the future, one where you travel to the past and create a whole new parallel universe with a different future, and well... this- one where you travel to the past and end up not changing anything because it is what happened. For example, you are attacked by a monster, but is miraculously saved by a mysterious person. Later on, you travel to the past to learn who saved you, but no one was coming, so you end up fighting the monster to save your past self- as it turns out, you were the mysterious person all along, and you were saved because your future self time traveled.

That's the explanation for the time travel in this series. This also means that Tomoe never fell in love in Yukiji. Yukiji hated youkai, so she never would have saved him- and she made that clear. The one Tomoe fell in love with all along was "Yukiji"- Nanami who pretended to be Yukiji.

That time when Nanami saw him trying to give Yukiji the Dragon Eye was Tomoe thinking that Yukiji was "Yukiji".

The reason why he liked those rice cakes (sasamochi)? -Because Nanami thought he did, and gave it to him in the past which made him like them in the future.

So yeah, he was never in love with Yukiji; the one he fell in love with all along was "Yukiji".

I hope that makes sense now?

Hello I'm pretty late! But i hope you can explain something to me, i saw your answer and i thought you could help if you wanted. So the time travel is in a loop, so everything that happened to the current tomoe, will happen to the past tomoe. We know that tomoe fell for nanami, even when she was pretending to be yukiji, but when he got his memory back when he got sick from the curse he remembered "yukiji" so he remembered nanami even before she went back in time to meet him and pretend to be yukiji, so that's means that before the current nanami traveled back in time there was another nanami that went back in time and meet him. because the nanami that we see that travels back in time 500 years and pretends to be yukiji, its her first time doing it, so there was a nanami before her(?) so how else can you explain that he already know and remembered her as "yukiji" even before she went there and pretended to be "yukiji". And the time travel is in a loop so and past tomoe will become present time tomoe and will re-live everything that happens, so when the curse hits him he will remember the nanami that we saw travel back in time, and not his nanami, my annoying question is: is tomoe in love with different time nanami because he remembered her as "yukiji" even before she time traveled to 500 years ago to be "yukiji".

Anastasia_4497Nov 10, 2019 9:00 PM

Nov 10, 2019 10:08 PM

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Oh my, I was crying watching the last episode of this OVA! The ending was so touching and soooo good!! I wish there would be season 3! I want to know what happens to Akura's body and more stories between Tomoe and Nanami, as I think their love story progresses too fast (from season 2 to OVA). I hope it doesn't take the studio too long to announce it!

Jan 17, 2020 4:37 PM

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Anastasia_4497 said:

ShinyPsyche said:

This reply probably is not needed, but I wanna make it clear anyway.

As an explanation for the time travel, think of it this way: there are three types of time travel (that I know of), one where you travel to the past and effectively change the future, one where you travel to the past and create a whole new parallel universe with a different future, and well... this- one where you travel to the past and end up not changing anything because it is what happened. For example, you are attacked by a monster, but is miraculously saved by a mysterious person. Later on, you travel to the past to learn who saved you, but no one was coming, so you end up fighting the monster to save your past self- as it turns out, you were the mysterious person all along, and you were saved because your future self time traveled.

That's the explanation for the time travel in this series. This also means that Tomoe never fell in love in Yukiji. Yukiji hated youkai, so she never would have saved him- and she made that clear. The one Tomoe fell in love with all along was "Yukiji"- Nanami who pretended to be Yukiji.

That time when Nanami saw him trying to give Yukiji the Dragon Eye was Tomoe thinking that Yukiji was "Yukiji".

The reason why he liked those rice cakes (sasamochi)? -Because Nanami thought he did, and gave it to him in the past which made him like them in the future.

So yeah, he was never in love with Yukiji; the one he fell in love with all along was "Yukiji".

I hope that makes sense now?

Hello I'm pretty late! But i hope you can explain something to me, i saw your answer and i thought you could help if you wanted. So the time travel is in a loop, so everything that happened to the current tomoe, will happen to the past tomoe. We know that tomoe fell for nanami, even when she was pretending to be yukiji, but when he got his memory back when he got sick from the curse he remembered "yukiji" so he remembered nanami even before she went back in time to meet him and pretend to be yukiji, so that's means that before the current nanami traveled back in time there was another nanami that went back in time and meet him. because the nanami that we see that travels back in time 500 years and pretends to be yukiji, its her first time doing it, so there was a nanami before her(?) so how else can you explain that he already know and remembered her as "yukiji" even before she went there and pretended to be "yukiji". And the time travel is in a loop so and past tomoe will become present time tomoe and will re-live everything that happens, so when the curse hits him he will remember the nanami that we saw travel back in time, and not his nanami, my annoying question is: is tomoe in love with different time nanami because he remembered her as "yukiji" even before she time traveled to 500 years ago to be "yukiji".

Saw someone actually explaining it, so I just will paste it here (credit to the person from mangago who wrote it)

Diferent stories address time travel in different ways. Option1 is: You have different temporal lines happening simultanously and what the time travel does is to jump between temporal lines, to the temporal line that is currently in the time period you want to visit. This kind of time travel doesn't affect the future, because you are altering a different temporal line, not your own (think Avengers Endgame).

Option2 is the traditional Time Paradox, in which altering the past affects the future, but not only that, the present is only the way it is because the past has been already altered. That is the case for this story. The actual temporal line of this story doesn't start at the beginning, when Nanami meets Mikage, and he makes her the God of the shrine. It actually starts on that first trip to the past, when Nanami travels to the past, takes over Yukiji's body and meets Tomoe for the first time. That event is what starts the loop and sets the rest of the events in motion, (aka, if Tomoe hadn't been intrigued by Yukiji that first time, which we know he was because he said so, he wouldn't have pursued her, then helped her after her husband's house was burnt, and took care of her during her pregnancy, facilitating the birth of Nanami's ancestor. The same way, he wouldn't have made the pact with Kuromaro, met Mikage, and so on and so forth). When Nanami comes back from her traveling and breaks Tomoe's curse, the loop ends, but everything between that first time travel and the moment Tomoe's curse is broken is happening in the loop.
Nanami's time travels were 1(Takes over Yukiji's body), 2(gives Yukiji the dragon eye, which in turn helped all her ancestors and herself survive since they all had weak bodies, aka loop keeping itself in check to make sure that Nanami will be alive to make that first trip that starts it), and 3 (Nanami goes to the past to break Tomoe's curse). But in the actual chronology of the story, the order is 1, 3, 2.

Feb 16, 2020 2:32 PM

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Mashiiiron said:
I just finished watching S2 and Kako-hen and have some doubts still. So Yukiji gave birth to a child with a human daimyou she married, right? And Nanami is her descendant. But does this mean that Tomoe never lived with Yukiji? Or after he left Nanami at the Daimyou's house, on Nanami's second travel into the past, he went back and took Yukiji from there and they lived together till she died?

I watched the anime and the ova and also read the manga, so I will try to explain it.

After "yukiji" (nanami as yukiji) promised to marry tomoe, and after he left her at daimyou house, after 8 years the real yukiji gets pregnant, and akura-ou murdered her husband and all the people she knew, she sees tomoe, and calls him for help.
That's how the real yukiji and tomoe met, ch.96-98 in the manga.
Tomoe thinks that's the same yukiji he fell in love with and he helps her, and the real yukiji always keeps her eyes closed, because her eyes are different from nanami's and tomoe would have found out.
During her pregnancy she's very weak so tomoe brings her the eye of the dragon, and that's when nanami first seen tomoe and the real yukiji(season1), when he was giving her the dragon eye.
Nanami traveled 3 time's to the past, hers something someone before me wrote:
Nanami's time travels were 1(Takes over Yukiji's body), 2(gives Yukiji the dragon eye, which in turn helped all her ancestors and herself survive since they all had weak bodies, and 3 (Nanami goes to the past to break Tomoe's curse). But in the actual chronology of the story, the order is 1, 3, 2.

Blue_moon04Feb 16, 2020 7:50 PM

Dec 14, 2020 12:42 AM

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i just finished kako-hen a few hours ago. i've read through the replies on this discussion, and it was very informative, answering most of my questions. however, i'm still confused on how the hairpin went around during the time-loop. the first time we see this hairpin in the series is when tomoe put it on nanami during the amusement park date. then, during the time travel, nanami gave it to tomoe and tomoe used it for the contract with the fallen god. if all this actually took place, how did tomoe get the hairpin to give it to nanami after he already offered it to the fallen god?

Jun 10, 2021 6:42 AM

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Oh wow. So it all comes around. The reason Mikage left was because of Nanami in the future and the one Tomoe actually fell for was Nanami.

Nice.

Also, I've had this on hold since 2016 so its nice to finally have it finished. Its gonna be weird to watch the next and last OVA of this series ending it all.

Yuritopia FTW!!!!!!!!! BANZAI TO YURI !!!!!!!!!!!!

Jun 28, 2021 12:13 PM

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This was so enjoyable and beautiful!!<33

Sep 25, 2021 7:27 AM

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I really love this series, but I hate time travel. No matter what, it's always so messy and confusing and a majority of the time all answers can just be linked to well, time travel cause it's so gimmicky.

Thank you to those who explained the ending more. Made it make way more sense.

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Nov 18, 2021 11:06 PM

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Mentally crying the whole time. Finally, Nanami broke the curse that binds Tomoe. I can't wish for more happy ending than this. I am happy for them :D

Tbh I guessed right on what'll happen in the show but it is good seeing what you predict happen. What happened to Akura-oh tho? They made me worried for nothing ig :))

8/10 overall very heartwarming

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How wonderful I really enjoyed the ending to this. Really pieced some things together for me . I am sad not to have more to watch .

Mar 1, 2022 9:10 PM

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How wonderful I really enjoyed the ending to this. Really pieced some things together for me . I am sad not to have more to watch .

Oct 8, 2022 2:26 PM

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you cant top this.

Feb 8, 2023 6:37 AM

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Despite appearing a bit sinister, Kuromaru turned out to be quite the nice guy.
Quite the timetravel ordeal where everything ties in nicely except the hairpin which doesn't really have a clear origin.

Mar 24, 2023 12:05 AM

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My jaw dropped more times than I'd like to admit; It might've been rushed, but the storylines were so carefully crafted. The amount of foreshadowing is actually insane! I knew there was some sort of relation to "Yukiji," but I never imagined that Nanami would be a straight up descendant. Also, that cherry blossom scene was so beautiful, wish there would've been more of that. For what this arc is, I love it.

Apr 13, 2023 4:24 PM

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it was the perfect ending and nothing more than i can wish for

Apr 24, 2023 11:44 AM

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Blue_moon04 said:
After "yukiji" (nanami as yukiji) promised to marry tomoe, and after he left her at daimyou house, after 8 years the real yukiji gets pregnant, and akura-ou murdered her husband and all the people she knew, she sees tomoe, and calls him for help.
That's how the real yukiji and tomoe met, ch.96-98 in the manga.
Tomoe thinks that's the same yukiji he fell in love with and he helps her, and the real yukiji always keeps her eyes closed, because her eyes are different from nanami's and tomoe would have found out.
During her pregnancy she's very weak so tomoe brings her the eye of the dragon, and that's when nanami first seen tomoe and the real yukiji(season1), when he was giving her the dragon eye.

Ahhh thank you for explaining this, I just finished watching the episode and this part about the real Yukiji wasn't fitting in the logic of the paradox and it was bothering me. The whole thing about Yukiji's pregnancy is completely overlooked in the anime and it doesn't make sense for the real Yukiji to be with Tomoe if she hates yokais, there was a bunch of missing information they didn't adapt it seems. It kinda ruined my enjoyment of it because it makes it seem like the paradox has a bunch of plot holes, when it clearly doesn't. I'm still unsure about the hairpin, though. How did Tomoe get it back from Kuromaro to give back to Nanami in the future?

Also, there's clearly a bunch of stuff about Akurao that doesn't get resolved and that I assume it does in the manga.

Sep 2, 2023 5:08 PM

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The time-traveling plot was convoluted. But it still looked predetermined since Nanami was meant to return in time, influence Tomoe's taste in women, and set the story into motion. It seems like she had to come back twice. The second is to understand and break the curse.

The kiss at the end was excellent! I like both Nanami and Tomoe. They are suitable for each other.
This sequel was too rushed, and it feels incomplete. Nonetheless, it was still entertaining.

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