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Jul 24, 2013 11:04 AM
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One Piece have terrible animation, Naruto have bad animation (usually), HxH often have good animation, sometimes amazing (Tomoko Mori/Hidehiko Sawada episodes), but this episode have less than average animation. That's all.
Jul 24, 2013 11:36 AM
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Mikisi said:
One Piece have terrible animation, Naruto have bad animation (usually), HxH often have good animation, sometimes amazing (Tomoko Mori/Hidehiko Sawada episodes), but this episode have less than average animation. That's all.


Hunter X Hunter 2011 is the Current Best Anime with the Best Animation Quality,I mean if your not watching this Anime With 720HD Resolution your doing your self a disservice.
Jul 24, 2013 11:38 AM

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Candor said:
Art =/= Animation. The episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it. Oh and try to grow up a bit and stop getting butt-hurt just because someone didn't like your favorite animu, or an episode of it.
Both animation and art suck in the anime that i've mentioned,so don't worry LOL and it's normal getting butt-hurt when everyone complain about normal animation (not bad and not wonderful,just normal) while anime like Attack on titan are considered "perfect" just for reputation. Aot has bad animation,it's a fact,but it seems that nobody notices this.
Jul 24, 2013 12:54 PM
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Candor said:
Art =/= Animation. The episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it. Oh and try to grow up a bit and stop getting butt-hurt just because someone didn't like your favorite animu, or an episode of it.


To say the episode had mediocre animation is absolutely ridiculous, that's a fact. Get over it.
Jul 24, 2013 1:58 PM

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^ This. It is decent at worst. I've seen WAY worse animation than what Hunter x Hunter offers. Seriously why are you guys even fighting? The training ends next episode. Get over it and move on with your lives.
Jul 24, 2013 4:32 PM

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LOL Gon knocked out right before he was going land his Jajanken and Knuckle still standing in there.
Though the middle of the fight where they were just throwing punches and the black background with just white strokes remind me of A-1.

Django_Freeman said:
Candor said:
Art =/= Animation. The episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it. Oh and try to grow up a bit and stop getting butt-hurt just because someone didn't like your favorite animu, or an episode of it.


To say the episode had mediocre animation is absolutely ridiculous, that's a fact. Get over it.
What's even more ridiculous is your reaction towards someone elses opinion that differs from yours, and that's a fact. Get over it.
Jul 24, 2013 8:32 PM
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Candor said:
nanny96 said:
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and those who complain about the animation which was great in this episode..il'l say its still way better than other shounen 13+ anime that airing right now so be thankful for that
Exactly. It's funny that people who complain about the animation in this episode are the same that watch One piece and Naruto ROFL watch this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJd5WUCzREI THIS is bad art. Naruto's and One piece's adaptations are REALLY bad,Studio Pierrot and Toei animation should learn how to actually make a good animated series. Madhouse is doing a wonderful job,this part was "slow" even in manga...
Art =/= Animation. The episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it. Oh and try to grow up a bit and stop getting butt-hurt just because someone didn't like your favorite animu, or an episode of it.


that's just my opinion..
Jul 25, 2013 2:02 AM
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Unit-01 said:
Django_Freeman said:
Candor said:
Art =/= Animation. The episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it. Oh and try to grow up a bit and stop getting butt-hurt just because someone didn't like your favorite animu, or an episode of it.


To say the episode had mediocre animation is absolutely ridiculous, that's a fact. Get over it.
What's even more ridiculous is your reaction towards someone elses opinion that differs from yours, and that's a fact. Get over it.


First, Candor wasn't exactly stating her "opinion" in the most respectful fashion : "the episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it". Therefore I'm entitled to answer however I feel like. Besides, you can't always use the "everyone has an opinion" card. I mean, come on, mediocre animation ? Do you really, genuinely believe this is mediocre animation ?
Jul 25, 2013 2:49 AM

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Django_Freeman said:
Unit-01 said:
Django_Freeman said:
Candor said:
Art =/= Animation. The episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it. Oh and try to grow up a bit and stop getting butt-hurt just because someone didn't like your favorite animu, or an episode of it.


To say the episode had mediocre animation is absolutely ridiculous, that's a fact. Get over it.
What's even more ridiculous is your reaction towards someone elses opinion that differs from yours, and that's a fact. Get over it.


First, Candor wasn't exactly stating her "opinion" in the most respectful fashion : "the episode had mediocre animation, that's a fact. Get over it". Therefore I'm entitled to answer however I feel like. Besides, you can't always use the "everyone has an opinion" card. I mean, come on, mediocre animation ? Do you really, genuinely believe this is mediocre animation ?
first, candor is a man, second he did, but was then attacked by fan boys so he retorted, third perhaps the animation did not meet his standards especially when it comes to Madhouse who always provide top notch animation, but there are times when it looks bad like when Kurapika first swung his chain around in the mansion when he first met the other body guards, and the recent episode during Knuckle and Gons fight were they were exchanging punches extremely fast and the white strokes was painfully obvious how mediocre the animation was compared the rest.
Jul 25, 2013 3:04 AM
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Unit-01 said:
first, candor is a man, second he did, but was then attacked by fan boys so he retorted, third perhaps the animation did not meet his standards especially when it comes to Madhouse who always provide top notch animation, but there are times when it looks bad like when Kurapika first swung his chain around in the mansion when he first met the other body guards, and the recent episode during Knuckle and Gons fight were they were exchanging punches extremely fast and the white strokes was painfully obvious how mediocre the animation was compared the rest.


I read the posts again and no, Candor wasn't attacked by anybody. As for the animation, you pointed out the problem : since people got used to the stellar animation Madhouse generally provide us, their standards were raised way too high. Then, when they get something not as good as usual, they say it's bad. This episode was certainly way behind Madhouse's usual animation, but it's at the very least decent, and to me it is pretty good, particularly for a minor fight like that which doesn't really focus that much on the action. The more money they save on episodes like that, the more money they can invest in the really epic stuff.
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Jul 25, 2013 4:59 PM

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That was intense! Great episode and that wasn't even the final fight! lol @ jajanken!
Jul 25, 2013 10:13 PM

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Django_Freeman said:

I read the posts again and no, Candor wasn't attacked by anybody. As for the animation, you pointed out the problem : since people got used to the stellar animation Madhouse generally provide us, their standards were raised way too high. Then, when they get something not as good as usual, they say it's bad/quote]

well. it was bad. just not worth making a big deal of really.
Jul 26, 2013 3:06 PM

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Glad to hear people saying the pacing will be back next episode. Can't wait!
Jul 26, 2013 3:08 PM

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i like the development of Gon and Killua in this current part, but cant wait to see more pitou
Jul 26, 2013 4:11 PM

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Crassa said:
Glad to hear people saying the pacing will be back next episode. Can't wait!
Crassa said:
Glad to hear people saying the pacing will be back next episode. Can't wait!


Well considering....
Jul 26, 2013 5:21 PM

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Jul 27, 2013 12:35 AM
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I can't wait for when I'll hear the "Elegy of the Dynast" track from the, as-of-yet unavailable-on-net but released commercially, OST 3. (At least you can sample first 45 secs from it here for now)

It seems very fitting for you-know-what...


If anyone's interested, so far the newest tracks we have heard during this arc were:
Ep 78 onwards: "Scariness" (OST3): Pig slaughtering humans
"Concentration" (ost3),
"Hopeless War" (ost3) "I need MORE!"
Ep 82: "Who's the Bomber" (OST3), a bloodied note from a bee ...
Ep 83: "Man-Hunting" (OST3) gory part
"Hegemony of the Food Chain" (OST 3), Kite's battle theme
Ep 84: "Kingdom of Predators"(OST 3), Pitou's practicing vivisection
Ep 85: "Unasked Advice" then "The Puppeteer" (OST Phantom Rouge), end of first half
"To Give a Marionette Life" (OST Phantom Rouge), Killua carrying up Gon
and in the ending "Nagareboshi Kirari~Version for orchestra" (OST Phantom Rouge)
then "New Mutation" (OST3) "It seems I'm really strong {:"3 " EQ~~~~~~
Ep 87: "In the Palace ~ Lamentoso" (OST 3), second royal guard's debut
Ep 88: "In the Palace ~ Agitato" (OST 3), that awesome violin piece...
Ep 89: "Legend of Martial Artist" heard in the end

About the third OST, from the preview alone awesome all along (with Requiem included, as "Riot"!) and I'm searching like crazy for it online (alongside the movie)
And "You can be stronger" and "GI theme" from GI arc.
"You can be stronger" doesn't seem to have been used yet (it would have been a perfect fit for the initial card hunting by Gon and Killua)

those tracks weren't used yet so you might want to avoid some "musical spoilers"
"The Ant Hill", "Sudden Evolution", "Unsettled Conditions", "Shiver" ... I wonder why they didn't use these for Morel's and Knov infiltration of NGL ... It's such a wasted opportunity
Last three, non-bonus tracks : my preferred parts in the manga :'( beautiful and heartrending
"Obvious difference in Power" is my favourite battle theme already, (Royal Guards?)
"Soldier Ants" aka shit-just-got-real battle theme
there's also "Rapsody on the Theme of Holst" (meant also for ... like "Elegy of the Dynast"?)
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Jul 27, 2013 1:47 AM

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I would say halfway-end of episode 91, because the prediction is a month later after the fight. It would feel rushed to finish the fight and suddenly at the ending the King is born. If that's the case Netero is for sure getting too old.
Jul 27, 2013 6:14 AM

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Crassa said:
I would say halfway-end of episode 91, because the prediction is a month later after the fight. It would feel rushed to finish the fight and suddenly at the ending the King is born. If that's the case Netero is for sure getting too old.

Have you read the manga?

Jul 27, 2013 12:56 PM

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Crassa said:
I would say halfway-end of episode 91, because the prediction is a month later after the fight. It would feel rushed to finish the fight and suddenly at the ending the King is born. If that's the case Netero is for sure getting too old.

Have you read the manga?



While this is true for the most part....

Jul 27, 2013 1:12 PM

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While this is true for the most part....


Yeah, I agree here.

It would be perfect to end episode 90 exactly where chapter 212 ends. Then episode 91 would cover 213 and 214.
Aug 8, 2013 12:02 PM

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Bisky is a mischievous little--err wait, definitely not little o_o. After seeing that form again, I can never see her the same. Although she does have a good point in regards to Killua being overly cautious. Time to see the showdown, Killua's resolve is going to be tested against an enemy he knows nothing about.
Aug 11, 2013 7:41 PM

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Loved the guys playing baseball as a demonstration. :P

Not surprised about Killua's weakness.

"Somewhere down the line, you'll leave Gon to die."

Ahh harsh words. ;^;

But when you think about how stubborn Gon is and his philosophy on fighting stronger enemies...I can see Killua feeling the urge to get away,and if Gon sees his knockout punch coming and refuses to run... Yet still, it's hard to imagine it actually happening. @_@

I think Killua really needed to hear this stuff, and it's good that it's coming from Bisky.

I'd love it if someday we got to see a Killua who's overcome that training and his family sees it. It's been so long since I read these parts that I don't remember everything that happens...
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Aug 14, 2013 4:53 PM
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Great episode.
I love the first half fight. Interesting about Gon's jaja methods.
Fuck the second half about biskiy. Turning hulk again haha, now hope she won't be her EVER again.
4.5/5
Can't wait till the last fight.
Aug 14, 2013 5:08 PM

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This Episode was Deep especially when Killua had to hear that from Her. i cant wait to see how their training goes since i never read the Manga lol so dont ruin it for me.


Sep 21, 2013 7:15 AM

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It's good to see Gon developing in battle. Although it was a bit obvious that Gon was using the Emitter attack as cover, Knuckle should've seen through that really.
Dec 12, 2013 4:06 PM

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loved that delve into killua's psyche, the main characters are quite multi-faceted (except for leorio). the thing is, this wasnt just exposition or a cheap way to get killua to improve - these are problems are have subtly shown themselves nearly every episode throughout this whole series. when biscuit points out the boys' weaknesses, its always like an "aha! she said it!" moment
Jan 8, 2014 3:00 AM

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jajanken.... Not a bad name,kid!.. okay I laughed so hard..
Feb 26, 2014 8:07 AM

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Another okay episode, I guess? -.- Next episode should be good, can't wait to see Killua fights. By the way did Gon just moved with his janken technique activated? Why does the range matter then? Killua did said that it's too far to use his janken technique because he was far away from Knuckle. Killua also took it way too seriously with him saying that he won't forgive Knuckle for eternity if he lost because he didn't give his best, I get where he's coming from though.

What's up with the OST that played after Gon told Knuckle to fight with the intent to kill? It was out of place imo. The comedy at the beginning was a let down, never expected that, and didn't want that, but the ja..janken part was okay I guess.

I actually chuckled when Killua was being impressed by Gon's growth during the fight. Even if he found a way to counter his weakness, he still lacks the firepower that a finisher should have, like his JanKenPon. A half-ass attack won't do shit.
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Apr 19, 2014 12:36 AM
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awesome battle. Knuckle's like kuwabara but a bit more intetlligent.
Apr 21, 2014 2:10 PM
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That Goril.. err old hag xp err I mean Bisky :D she's good to have seen through Killua :3 n I had read this theory that she is Gon's mother
n now when she said that one day Killua would leave Gon to die and that if he doesn't defeat Shoot, he should leave Gon's side, she sounded just like a mom xP
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That Goril.. err old hag xp err I mean Bisky :D she's good to have seen through Killua :3 n I had read this theory that she is Gon's mother
n now when she said that one day Killua would leave Gon to die and that if he doesn't defeat Shoot, he should leave Gon's side, she sounded just like a mom xP


uhhh... how?
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judals said:
VampireOjouChan said:
That Goril.. err old hag xp err I mean Bisky :D she's good to have seen through Killua :3 n I had read this theory that she is Gon's mother
n now when she said that one day Killua would leave Gon to die and that if he doesn't defeat Shoot, he should leave Gon's side, she sounded just like a mom xP


uhhh... how?


cuz she really cares for Gon and who is by his side n in my head it works out xD
Jun 28, 2014 9:38 PM

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ehhh several Quality moments during this ep, bad animation aside the fight itself was quite boring
lol Bisky true form looks like a character from Hokuto no Ken
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Hmm nice break down of Killua
Jun 29, 2014 1:22 AM

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ehhh several Quality moments during this ep
That's just how it is every 6-7 ep's.
Jun 29, 2014 1:34 AM

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silversaint said:
ehhh several Quality moments during this ep
That's just how it is every 6-7 ep's.


I always thought "Quality" meant outright bad art/animation, I don't remember that ever being the case with this series?
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GalekC said:
That's just how it is every 6-7 ep's.


I always thought "Quality" meant outright bad art/animation, I don't remember that ever being the case with this series?
Yes, but I don't think any of it has been as noticeable as this episode, thankfully. Glad they started getting different directors by episode 90.

Edit: But, seriously - the team behind this episode is probably my 2nd or 3rd favorite, out of the 7 animator heads. They're still very talented, despite running on the strictest budget out of all. (psst - look at my avatar!)
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When it comes to combat, Gon and Killua are like opposite extremes. Gon wants to fight no matter how absurdly outclassed he see (read: Pitou), and when he does fight, he fights 'till he drops, which is incredibly dangerous seeing that he'll end up dying if he doesn't defeat his enemy before then. Killua, on the other hand, won't fight anyone stronger than him, as Bisky pointed out. Given that he already has good analytical skills, he's really wasting his potential.

I'm actually sort-of getting used to Bisky's real form.

Knuckle is a softie, but I like him. :3
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When first seeing Gon's Jagen technique' Ive always though there was a mistake in his technique and I even questioned my self, "why would togashi use such a skill that makes gon so open to an attack" and i was wondering why they never said anything bout it. This was back when i initial first read the manga. But then later on this being this episode, Togashi finally exploits this flaw which i really appreciated seeing.




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Ouch, Biscuit have pin-pointed Killua problem. But someone had to do it at some point. It was detrimental to his own potential. He is so strong, yet can't see his own power. I hope he manage to get rid of that completely, it would be for the best.
Man, Biscuit is such a great trainer, I love that gorilla her so much <3

Well, as I thought, one of the weakness of Gon technic is indeed its time to charge. But as Killua, I thought its other weakness would be its lack of surprise effect at his second release, but I didn't thought about the fact that he could use it as a faint. That's really clever. The problem is that he's still inferior to Knuckle in term of technical fighting and that he still don't know Knuckle technic. Shoot is also a total mystery so far. The best bet is that he's somekind of emitter, but he must be hidding something else. It would be too easy.
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Mar 21, 2015 2:32 AM

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Hahaha, I love how Jajanken actually ended up being the name of Gon's Hatsu.
Apr 27, 2015 3:23 PM

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Enough Commentary, show more of the fight

Jul 20, 2015 11:24 PM

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Buffed Biske is kawai~

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JA...JANKEN

That part made me laugh pretty hard.

Well, excited to see the conclusion of the training part soon.
Jan 17, 2016 4:32 AM

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good ep. on to the next one
Jan 24, 2016 12:15 PM
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Knuckle's review of the Jankenpo could be said about Goku's Kamehameha and Naruto's Rasengan, but their still some of the most powerful attacks in the series.
Feb 20, 2016 6:12 PM
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Great episode.
Bisky is badass
Apr 26, 2016 2:25 PM

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Poor Killua got schooled by Bisky
May 3, 2016 5:59 PM

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The last part with Killua and Bisky was my favorite.
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