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Jul 26, 2016 7:35 PM
#101
Depends. Basically if it's... I'll say "subpar", I don't care. No effect really unless that's the whole show... like Bikini Warriors (OVA Series). A example is the Freezing anime series. I love the whole series concept and all, fan favorite. But compared to the manga, there's a fair amount of filler scenes which happen to generally be ecchi/fanservice, which is understandable. They gotta fill in the 24~ minutes that make the episode. But even so the manga is a favorite of mine but the anime lost points with me because of said filler. It's not annoying or anything but I'm just hard set on plot over fan service. I'd rather some comedy or like general filler that gives info on characters that we are unaware of. (Origins for example) |
Jul 26, 2016 8:18 PM
#102
I'll never increase my score when it comes to fanservice, I just overlook it if it's just funny and it doesn't hurt the show in any way. Fanservice doesn't make a show good, it's just there. |
Jul 26, 2016 8:30 PM
#103
If its the kind of fan service I like and is done well and tastefully, maybe 1 point extra. But it probably wouldn't be enough. I can't think of any shows where fanservice upped the score. Quite the reverse actually... |
Jul 26, 2016 8:47 PM
#104
Wait..... how can a comedy centered around its sexual fan service possible without it? Uhhh...... Doesn't that just makes it bland and generic as fuck? merryfistmas said: I need to watch Shimoneta, pantsu-on-head the anime sounds glorious. Yes, of course. It's actually a symbol of freedom from Puritanism in the show. |
Jul 26, 2016 9:02 PM
#105
CapitalistGod said: I don't know about the anime but there are times the manga is hilarious even without the sexual fan service. However it is a key element in the series so I don't even know if it can be called fan service.Wait..... how can a comedy centered around its sexual fan service possible without it? Uhhh...... Doesn't that just makes it bland and generic as fuck? merryfistmas said: I need to watch Shimoneta, pantsu-on-head the anime sounds glorious. Yes, of course. It's actually a symbol of freedom from Puritanism in the show. |
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Jul 26, 2016 9:21 PM
#106
It won't increase my score, but if done well, it won't decrease it either. I'll take a point off if it's executed badly, though. |
Jul 26, 2016 9:40 PM
#107
MDW01 said: Im down to vote for a thread title change :PThis should be titled "How much can fan service decrease your score?" instead |
Jul 26, 2016 10:10 PM
#108
Sindoe said: No. This is for positive fan service experiences. You can make you own thread if you like.MDW01 said: Im down to vote for a thread title change :PThis should be titled "How much can fan service decrease your score?" instead |
Jul 26, 2016 10:49 PM
#109
Jul 26, 2016 10:54 PM
#110
lets say that shigatsu have more ecchi now. i would of gave it five more points. if dxd got none, i would gave it three lesser points. |
Jul 27, 2016 12:33 AM
#111
RyanEsau said: Depends. Basically if it's... I'll say "subpar", I don't care. No effect really unless that's the whole show... like Bikini Warriors (OVA Series). A example is the Freezing anime series. I love the whole series concept and all, fan favorite. But compared to the manga, there's a fair amount of filler scenes which happen to generally be ecchi/fanservice, which is understandable. They gotta fill in the 24~ minutes that make the episode. But even so the manga is a favorite of mine but the anime lost points with me because of said filler. It's not annoying or anything but I'm just hard set on plot over fan service. I'd rather some comedy or like general filler that gives info on characters that we are unaware of. (Origins for example) The manga is actually pretty long, so I don't think they needed fillers. They hoped to play more on the sexiness to sell. You have to admit the outfits in the prom queen episode were awesome. I got some volumes of the manga lying around. I hope they're good. I love the art and the premise/characters have potential. |
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Jul 27, 2016 12:36 AM
#112
As long as it comes from an ecchi-focused anime it's fine. But it's got to be well done, Highschool dxd may have big bouncy boobs but it's a piece of steaming shit In other words, as long as the show lends itself to have fanservice and it's well done i may consider it a favourite |
Jul 27, 2016 12:37 AM
#113
Most of the time it decreases my score of an anime. |
Jul 27, 2016 2:32 AM
#114
kamisama751 said: CapitalistGod said: Wait..... how can a comedy centered around its sexual fan service possible without it? Uhhh...... Doesn't that just makes it bland and generic as fuck? Huh? If something is a key element of a show then it is no more fan serive. Fan service is unneccessary for the show itself but is there just to serve the fans. Hmmm.... It being a key element doesn't really remove the fact that it's still fanservice.... and there's nothing wrong with that. |
Jul 27, 2016 2:55 AM
#115
Jul 27, 2016 7:55 AM
#116
Ivo-goji said: Gunbuster and Kill la Kill would not be the same without fanservice. I would have liked these 2 way more without fanservice... |
Jul 27, 2016 7:58 AM
#117
Yes said: 0.1 for every pantie shot I see. That is my strict rule. Najica Blitz Tactics confirmed score: 231/10. |
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Jul 27, 2016 8:54 AM
#118
As long as it's there to actually provide some merit to the story or if it's doing a good job of advancing the plot, I'm fine with it. |
Jul 27, 2016 9:11 AM
#119
fanservice prevent the anime for not becomes boring. and yeah, it affect my score. but not much |
Jul 27, 2016 9:33 AM
#120
TheBrainintheJar said: The manga is actually pretty long, so I don't think they needed fillers. They hoped to play more on the sexiness to sell. You have to admit the outfits in the prom queen episode were awesome. I got some volumes of the manga lying around. I hope they're good. I love the art and the premise/characters have potential. Yeah, it's at about 210~ chapters currently I believe? I'm only @ about 130. I kinda stopped reading manga, slowly getting back into it. Also for fillers I generally mean more over the fact that animes tend to add in filler to fill in the time necessary. So they might cover the respective chapters but they still have time to fill for the episode. Don't remember too well ( I remember the episode, but the outfits not so much) since that wasn't really my cup of tea, I just love the whole concept as mentioned overall. The whole 'Pandora' epidemic. I just have a thing for unique story pretty much. Gets old seeing the same ol' high school dramas and such after awhile for me. The manga is pretty good, I got into it because I was curious how the story continued. The Anime only adapts the manga upto like chapter 96 or so. 90 something. So it's alot that's still up in the air. Also I was trying my hand at fanfiction so I wanted to read the story and get ideas also, so that also was part of my drive at the time. |
Jul 27, 2016 10:06 AM
#121
Never. It's just a, sometimes, nice extra to me. |
Jul 27, 2016 1:27 PM
#122
Hmm.......never for me. It moreso depends on the characters. I mean love characters like Satuski, Ryuko, Panty, Stocking, Kallen, and C2. Not because they are just sexy but they are also strong female characters that add to their story. |
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Jul 27, 2016 2:25 PM
#123
By quite a lot. I like to be serviced. |
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Jul 27, 2016 2:42 PM
#124
If I see hot boys almost naked, then the score is auto 10/10 |
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Jul 27, 2016 5:09 PM
#125
if thats the point of the show then ya ill rase the score on fan service i.e to love ru darkness otherwise meh who cares if its in the show its in the show im not going to cry about it. |
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Jul 27, 2016 5:36 PM
#126
Jul 27, 2016 9:02 PM
#127
I pretty much exclusively watch ecchi, but I'm not just going to give the expected "all the time" answer. To me, it's all about expectations. If I'm expecting a perverted comedy, there damn well better be some good nudity in it. A lack of nudity can ruin it for me, so it will often lower my score. So I guess if you look at it from the opposite direction, you could say that the fanservice will increase my score. On the other hand, sometimes the show turns out to be more than just ecchi. I might start it looking for fanservice but then I get caught up in interesting characters or plot, or even just good comedy, and I forget all about why I started watching it in the first place. In those cases, the fanservice is only incidental to my enjoyment, and a lack of fanservice won't usually hurt my score. |
Jul 27, 2016 9:33 PM
#128
Fanservice never really increases or decreases my score. In such anime I care more about how likeable the characters are and how much fun it is to watch. I will never suffer through unlikable characters just to see some animated ass, not like there's a shortage of that on the internet anyway. |
Jul 27, 2016 11:19 PM
#129
Strike Witches would be a great example for this. The fan service made it like 2x better. (was still pretty boring tho) |
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Jul 28, 2016 12:16 AM
#130
RyanEsau said: TheBrainintheJar said: The manga is actually pretty long, so I don't think they needed fillers. They hoped to play more on the sexiness to sell. You have to admit the outfits in the prom queen episode were awesome. I got some volumes of the manga lying around. I hope they're good. I love the art and the premise/characters have potential. Yeah, it's at about 210~ chapters currently I believe? I'm only @ about 130. I kinda stopped reading manga, slowly getting back into it. Also for fillers I generally mean more over the fact that animes tend to add in filler to fill in the time necessary. So they might cover the respective chapters but they still have time to fill for the episode. Don't remember too well ( I remember the episode, but the outfits not so much) since that wasn't really my cup of tea, I just love the whole concept as mentioned overall. The whole 'Pandora' epidemic. I just have a thing for unique story pretty much. Gets old seeing the same ol' high school dramas and such after awhile for me. The manga is pretty good, I got into it because I was curious how the story continued. The Anime only adapts the manga upto like chapter 96 or so. 90 something. So it's alot that's still up in the air. Also I was trying my hand at fanfiction so I wanted to read the story and get ideas also, so that also was part of my drive at the time. I actually felt the anime should be longer, especially Vibration. There ideas it needed to explore further, characters to develop. The anime had a decent plot but its storytelling was too over-the-place and didn't explore its ideas. |
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Jul 28, 2016 3:56 AM
#131
HaXXspetten said: Well of course there are a lot of anime with god-tier ecchi in it like To LOVE-Ru Darkness or Kiss x Sis for example, but you can't really call it fanservice when the ecchi is the main focus point of the show kamisama751 said: Huh? If something is a key element of a show then it is no more fan serive. Fan service is unneccessary for the show itself but is there just to serve the fans. THIS^ Why people call every "echi" thing fanservice? CapitalistGod said: Hmmm.... It being a key element doesn't really remove the fact that it's still fanservice.... and there's nothing wrong with that. No. Read above quotes. And if you still insist on calling it fanservice, then every show is fan service. Mamster-P said: it like people don't understand that being distracted is a personal problem as there are many people who don't find it distracting.... "theres a sexy pair of tits/an ass in my face, fuck this anime, its been ruined" WHAT THE FUCK? i don't get it and i never will... seems so fucking fake... I guess you can watch some serious show on the first tv, and on the second tv there is something disturbing. It's not like we are bad/fake or something. YOU are very good. Mamster-P said: @merryfistmas im sorry but... i refuse to believe the flood of "if its done a certain way" comments are all entirely genuine, especially on a subject that many people are afraid to talk about the fact that almost no one is saying it increases there score, just seems like some ppl are lying, especially when ppl watch these shows knowing its coming but yea seriously, the people who are trying to avoid coming off as complete perverts need to stop hiding that shit..... if you are talking about echi show then yes. In the to love ru Darkness you will expect echi. If you are talking about "real" fanservice then no. Some people likes to watch both (echi & serious shows). When I watching some serious scene and the camera is showing ass it's disturbing. When I'm watching something less serious I don't mind it (at least). I think there were episode when girls doesn't want to wear suits because suits were "little bad". It was kind of tame (no ass in your face thing) so it was "cute". Oh, In the 3rd Nanoha series you have a lot fanservice transformations of girls but one boy hadn't got too much fanservice. It was like we can see 10 maybe 20 seconds of girls bodies but in his case, we mostly see his weapon (not pun intended) and maybe 1 or 2 seconds of him. Haha, that kind of fanservice (or rather lack of) was funny. |
Jul 28, 2016 4:16 AM
#132
@Wannabiteme not everything is meant to be as serious as people think, i think thats the main issue just cause people die, theres a fight, theres gore or w/e doesn't mean the scene/show is supposed to be serious, thats just a bias we have based on our culture plus if there were never ecchi in "serious" moments, that would look just as forced as ppl who think adding it there already is |
Jul 28, 2016 5:13 AM
#133
If the fanservice is ecchi it definitely decreases the score. I hated Return of the Kings for this. It was so forced. Totally reduced Seri's strong female character to a a boobage or pantsu oppurtunity. She's just there because we need to keep the guys interested. Highschool of the Dead needs to disappear. |
Jul 28, 2016 5:14 AM
#134
Jul 28, 2016 5:46 AM
#135
Mamster-P said: @Wannabiteme not everything is meant to be as serious as people think, i think thats the main issue just cause people die, theres a fight, theres gore or w/e doesn't mean the scene/show is supposed to be serious, thats just a bias we have based on our culture plus if there were never ecchi in "serious" moments, that would look just as forced as ppl who think adding it there already is 1) it's hard to make something in between (1/2 serious & 1/2 not - comedy/echi/etc). When you make good serious scene and you add echi/comedy you may destroy it. You have a comedy and you add some serious moment. Some people may overlook that scene. 2) Sure there are dark comedies (or however you call it). But I'm talking about something that most people would watch (where death scene supposed to be sad). |
Jul 28, 2016 5:47 AM
#136
@Wannabiteme What are you on about? I'm talking about Prison School here whose entire concept as a *serious* comedy will only work with fanservice(or trying to cater to several fetishists if you want to be direct) . |
Jul 28, 2016 5:47 AM
#137
One piece of good fanservice is .1 positive score and bad fanservice is .1 negative score, multipled by 3, divided by 2, plus the quality of the characters and that factors into the fanservice score. Varies depending on whether or not the character has eyebrows or not. |
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Jul 28, 2016 7:50 AM
#138
Wannabiteme said: Mamster-P said: @Wannabiteme not everything is meant to be as serious as people think, i think thats the main issue just cause people die, theres a fight, theres gore or w/e doesn't mean the scene/show is supposed to be serious, thats just a bias we have based on our culture plus if there were never ecchi in "serious" moments, that would look just as forced as ppl who think adding it there already is 1) it's hard to make something in between (1/2 serious & 1/2 not - comedy/echi/etc). When you make good serious scene and you add echi/comedy you may destroy it. You have a comedy and you add some serious moment. Some people may overlook that scene. 2) Sure there are dark comedies (or however you call it). But I'm talking about something that most people would watch (where death scene supposed to be sad). What I'm saying is, if theres ecchi during a scene that I'd supposed to be sad or serious, chances are that scene isn't supposed to be sad or serious -___- |
Jul 28, 2016 9:09 AM
#139
Mamster-P said: Wannabiteme said: Mamster-P said: @Wannabiteme not everything is meant to be as serious as people think, i think thats the main issue just cause people die, theres a fight, theres gore or w/e doesn't mean the scene/show is supposed to be serious, thats just a bias we have based on our culture plus if there were never ecchi in "serious" moments, that would look just as forced as ppl who think adding it there already is 1) it's hard to make something in between (1/2 serious & 1/2 not - comedy/echi/etc). When you make good serious scene and you add echi/comedy you may destroy it. You have a comedy and you add some serious moment. Some people may overlook that scene. 2) Sure there are dark comedies (or however you call it). But I'm talking about something that most people would watch (where death scene supposed to be sad). What I'm saying is, if theres ecchi during a scene that I'd supposed to be sad or serious, chances are that scene isn't supposed to be sad or serious -___- This. Most shows with tons and tons of ecchi are normally comedic or at least self-aware. |
Jul 28, 2016 9:23 AM
#140
OneTrueEmiya said: Mamster-P said: Wannabiteme said: Mamster-P said: @Wannabiteme not everything is meant to be as serious as people think, i think thats the main issue just cause people die, theres a fight, theres gore or w/e doesn't mean the scene/show is supposed to be serious, thats just a bias we have based on our culture plus if there were never ecchi in "serious" moments, that would look just as forced as ppl who think adding it there already is 1) it's hard to make something in between (1/2 serious & 1/2 not - comedy/echi/etc). When you make good serious scene and you add echi/comedy you may destroy it. You have a comedy and you add some serious moment. Some people may overlook that scene. 2) Sure there are dark comedies (or however you call it). But I'm talking about something that most people would watch (where death scene supposed to be sad). What I'm saying is, if theres ecchi during a scene that I'd supposed to be sad or serious, chances are that scene isn't supposed to be sad or serious -___- This. Most shows with tons and tons of ecchi are normally comedic or at least self-aware. Thank u lol.. it's if ppl don't realize that the writers kno what they're adding into a show Just because a show or scene "appears to be serious" doesn't mean it was intended to be |
Jul 28, 2016 9:41 AM
#141
Mamster-P said: What I'm saying is, if theres ecchi during a scene that I'd supposed to be sad or serious, chances are that scene isn't supposed to be sad or serious -___- Or they just failed at "fanservicing" Mamster-P said: Just because a show or scene "appears to be serious" doesn't mean it was intended to be If lots of people thought that it was serious then they failed. |
Jul 28, 2016 12:53 PM
#142
Wannabiteme said: Mamster-P said: What I'm saying is, if theres ecchi during a scene that I'd supposed to be sad or serious, chances are that scene isn't supposed to be sad or serious -___- Or they just failed at "fanservicing" Mamster-P said: Just because a show or scene "appears to be serious" doesn't mean it was intended to be If lots of people thought that it was serious then they failed. what about the people who aren't bothered by it, do we not matter? why should they changed just cause the people who are bothered by it are more vocal? |
Jul 28, 2016 1:12 PM
#143
If the show is serious or a drama where ecchi moments would be absolutely inappropriate (how do you spell this? T_T) I would rate it lower for flashing boobs at me or giving me a panty shot. By lower, I mean -1 score. That depends on how much the anime actually sends these unneeded ecchi moments my way. If it's a really small amount it won't hurt my score. I rated Highschool DxD lower than most people do because of a certain scene SPOILER ALERT : When Asia was dying (not really as she gets resurrected) in the beginning of the series, it was supposed to be a sad moment but her boobs were exposed the whole time. Too much good is sometimes bad. But when it comes to Ecchi anime, I rate them higher the better the ecchi scenes are, that's the point, being an ecchi, if it does it's job by giving me good ecchi scenes then it gets rated higher. Of course I always give them average score because of their cast. There is no character that feels unique. It's always a character trope in the form of a girl. |
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Jul 28, 2016 1:44 PM
#145
That's actually a tricky question because it's not easy to define "fanservice". One could say "any sexual-related subject" but if it's an essencial part of the show, then I personally wouldn't consider this definition or at least I would say the entire show is fanservice itself. I remember watching shows like "K" when a female character was posing for an attack and the camera makes a huge zoom in her cleavage. Or any battle-oriented anime where the girls get their clothes ripped apart for no reason. These examples would make me reduce the score drastically. On the other hand, Shimoneta makes very good use of this, even Prison School (to an extent). When a show is centered around arousing elements then "it's part of the 'plot'". These cases can be overlooked, depending on the idea of the show and what it's promising from the very beginning. |
Jul 28, 2016 2:50 PM
#146
Mamster-P said: what about the people who aren't bothered by it, do we not matter? why should they changed just cause the people who are bothered by it are more vocal? *sigh* - if you are not bothered - it doesn't matter to you whenever it is changed or not - if you like that - an anime creator can make that shot a few minutes later/earlier. You have your shot, I have my mood. Everyone are happy. But it doesn't matter what I think. What sells is right. |
Jul 28, 2016 2:59 PM
#147
Wannabiteme said: Mamster-P said: what about the people who aren't bothered by it, do we not matter? why should they changed just cause the people who are bothered by it are more vocal? *sigh* - if you are not bothered - it doesn't matter to you whenever it is changed or not - if you like that - an anime creator can make that shot a few minutes later/earlier. You have your shot, I have my mood. Everyone are happy. But it doesn't matter what I think. What sells is right. yall make it sound like everyone just unanimously agrees that ecchi never works in some situations |
Jul 28, 2016 4:35 PM
#148
Mamster-P said: yall make it sound like everyone just unanimously agrees that ecchi never works in some situations There are exceptions but that's a norma. |
Jul 28, 2016 4:45 PM
#149
Wannabiteme said: Mamster-P said: yall make it sound like everyone just unanimously agrees that ecchi never works in some situations There are exceptions but that's a norma. thats like saying people who like SAO are the exception because you're always seeing people shit talk it. just because the people who want to complain are the most vocal doesn't mean theres more of them |
Jul 28, 2016 5:02 PM
#150
To a certain degree of fan service I raise a few points , but when it becomes something forced and repetitive ( this is normal today) in this case my points will almost zero. |
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