Suikomaru said: yhunata said: We were discussed TG, Naruto, Baby Steps, and so on, right? So what now?The thread doesn't really have much a topic to return to. gto, yu yu hakusho, bleach, bleach 2 |
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ichii_1 said: Suikomaru said: We were discussed TG, Naruto, Baby Steps, and so on, right? So what now? gto, yu yu hakusho, bleach, bleach 2 The sooner you let go of that dream, the less hurt you're gonna be when it doesn't happen. |
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yhunata said: just above average anime. well, it actually like that from manga. it can be great detective series with mc development. and end up become detective conan 2. wasted lot of potential.We could discuss Detective Academy Q... though I doubt many people here would've heard of it. |
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Unyilkdr said: yhunata said: just above average anime. well, it actually like that from manga. it can be great detective series with mc development. and end up become detective conan 2. wasted lot of potential.We could discuss Detective Academy Q... though I doubt many people here would've heard of it. It's better than Conan, though. Kindaichi is best, the police are actually capable in that. |
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yhunata said: You can make a subpar adaptation of a subpar manga, so what's the point of asking about what the point of my post was?Sapewloth said: Kiseijuu wasn't that good an adaptation tbh. It wasn't that good of a manga either, so what's the point? Anyway: Suikomaru said: I agree, but what I meant was that their adaptation wasn't that great in the sense that it didn't really bring anything new to the table (unlike say Death Note): so it may stick to the source material but the result is a pretty dull experience (at least imo).Sapewloth said: When its source material compared to Tokyo Ghoul it's clearly TG ftw, BUT if we looked at their adaptation....Kiseijuu wasn't that good an adaptation tbh. Kiseijuu was adapted "so close" to the source material (with adapting culture I guess) that can being "more superior" than this shitty TG (especially root A). |
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yhunata said: i have to agree. but detective story is not my cup of tea honestly. just watch it as my childhood.It's better than Conan, though. Kindaichi is best, the police are actually capable in that. |
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Sapewloth said: yhunata said: You can make a subpar adaptation of a subpar manga, so what's the point of asking about what the point of my post was?It wasn't that good of a manga either, so what's the point? My point being that Kiseijuu not being that good of an anime was because it had a source material that wasn't that good. As far as adaption goes, it's one of the better ones. A good adaption doesn't necessarily make the anime good. |
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cullo99 said: Pierrot is bullshit Sherlock Holmes detected |
CyberAnimeLover said: No.Toei is shit but Pierrot is on a whole other levelBetter than Toei tho =P |
yhunata said: It's better than Conan, though. Kindaichi is best, the police are actually capable in that. I don't think so |
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yhunata said: But I'd prefer not-so-good source materials that's adapted perfectly than a Fantastic source material which was butchered "horribly".Sapewloth said: You can make a subpar adaptation of a subpar manga, so what's the point of asking about what the point of my post was? My point being that Kiseijuu not being that good of an anime was because it had a source material that wasn't that good. As far as adaption goes, it's one of the better ones. A good adaption doesn't necessarily make the anime good. |
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TheGeniusBaka said: if you are talking about manga, yes, they are same lavel, but detective conan anime are make this series stagnant.yhunata said: I don't think soIt's better than Conan, though. Kindaichi is best, the police are actually capable in that. |
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Suikomaru said: yhunata said: But I'd prefer not-so-good source materials that's adapted perfectly than a Fantastic source material which was butchered "horribly".My point being that Kiseijuu not being that good of an anime was because it had a source material that wasn't that good. As far as adaption goes, it's one of the better ones. A good adaption doesn't necessarily make the anime good. That's what I'm saying. Kiseijuu never had a fantastic source material to be butchered horribly. Literally, the only bad thing that could be said about it adaption wise was the modernization. Everything else, adaption wise, was perfect. |
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yhunata said: Note that I said "adaptation", not "anime". Imo Madhouse didn't adapt the manga as well as they could have, hence my earlier post. I think that's the part where our opinions on why the animu wasn't good diverge.Sapewloth said: You can make a subpar adaptation of a subpar manga, so what's the point of asking about what the point of my post was? My point being that Kiseijuu not being that good of an anime was because it had a source material that wasn't that good. As far as adaption goes, it's one of the better ones. A good adaption doesn't necessarily make the anime good. |
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| People's opinions of Pierrot will change for the better once Bleach season 2 airs. |
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Ulquiorra1923 said: Exactly.No. They animated Bleach, one of the best anime series of all times. |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: People's opinions of Pierrot will change for the better once Bleach season 2 airs. Why? The current arc is even worse than the Arrancar saga. |
SuperRed said: Blood war is way better than arrancar arc.FireEmblemIke24 said: People's opinions of Pierrot will change for the better once Bleach season 2 airs. Why? The current arc is even worse than the Arrancar saga. |
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| A few weeks ago I checked out Shippuden to see how far Studio Pierrot's gotten with the manga long finished. The fillers might have had a reason to exist before, but now there's no excuse. |
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Bibi_Punk said: Fillers are over now.A few weeks ago I checked out Shippuden to see how far Studio Pierrot's gotten with the manga long finished. The fillers might have had a reason to exist before, but now there's no excuse. |
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SuperRed said: FireEmblemIke24 said: People's opinions of Pierrot will change for the better once Bleach season 2 airs. Why? The current arc is even worse than the Arrancar saga. There are arrancars in the new arc too. The only problem is pacing which the anime will fix. |
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| they animated Bleach so they gud |
| Well, I really loved Beelzebub. |
| Okay since somebody put up those nice naruto scenes, any bleach scenes with really nice animation? |
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Gunism said: actually, it's failure adaptation. less funny, bad script, bad fillers and average animation compare to manga. but if they stand alone, they are good.Well, I really loved Beelzebub. |
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hoopla123 said: They also ruined the Beelzebub anime by stretching it out to 60 episodes and having a lot of fillers. Also, I don't particularly like Bleach, but the Bleach anime 45% of it is filler, which is just a problem within its self (also Naruto and Naruto Shippuden both have a ridiculously large amount of fillers and fillers continued even when the manga ended.) The only thing I like that they did was YuYu HakushoI don't even care about the censorship. The fact that they made Tokyo Ghoul Root A what it is just breaks my heart. |
| Late to the party, but isn't Pierrot's problem that they take on way too much and pay their animators shit? Like, from articles I read, they're the standard that everyone judges "shit paid animators" by. And think about it, for a while, they picked up Naruto, Bleach, and then did other stuff too. So they could be animating as many as 3 shows a week, and at least 2. It's kinda alleviated now, because Bleach got cancelled, but they still don't manage their time super well. If Bleach comes back for one last hurrah, any other anime Pierrot picks up will be disastrous. Other problems that seem to be listed in this thread are problems with adaptations as a whole rather than Pierrot specifically. Filler and meh adaptations are a result of anime being adapted too soon or too fast, and these problems, while definitely present in Pierrot's work, are certainly not specific to it. Although, admittedly, I have no idea what the fuck was up with Root A, but that's been beaten to death in this thread. Course, that's just my amateur 2 cents. |
black1blade said: any bleach scenes with really nice animation? pressure/wind/atmosphere  |
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black1blade said: Okay since somebody put up those nice naruto scenes, any bleach scenes with really nice animation? |
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| Akatsuki no Yona alone excuses them for anything else they might have done. Dunno exactly what though, since they almost never make anything in genres I care about. Re-Kan was trash though. I guess "Pierrot Plus" is the name of their outsourced garbage rushing front.     |
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Unyilkdr said: Gunism said: actually, it's failure adaptation. less funny, bad script, bad fillers and average animation compare to manga. but if they stand alone, they are good.Well, I really loved Beelzebub. This is why I say you people need to understand the difference between animation and art. |
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SuperRed said: FireEmblemIke24 said: People's opinions of Pierrot will change for the better once Bleach season 2 airs. Why? The current arc is even worse than the Arrancar saga. It's a million times better than the Arrancar saga. Only problem it has is the pacing and Ichigo being Ditto again. |
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| Nah, I think they are great. I'm glad they adapted Naruto, they enhanced it in so many ways (directing, animation, added anime scenes, enhanced choreography (episode 322, 375) OST, OP and EDs), that I don't even care about their bad time management with fillers and such. Didn't bother reading the whole thread, but as per usual there is a lot of ignorance. First thing first art =/= animation. The number of episodes for an adaptation and the decision to go original lies within the anime committee, it's not decided by the studio, they only animate and produce it, same goes for censorship which is done by the TV station. Some people call their animation shit while not realizing that they are examples are long running anime. It's practically impossible for a series to have 300-500+ episodes and have consistently good animation. I love their animation because while there are lot of average and below average animation in a lot of episodes, they bring their A game in the most important moments. So I would rather have that, than anime that is consistently average and/or above average in all episodes. Their key animators are really talented, they just have poor time management. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHSU_vvY-Nk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXeb9cb6k0I https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIBhCwPf1wE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixF6PXdIBmo Heck, Bleach's final arc, was just pure eye candy. |
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| The entirety of the Hisagi vs Findorr episode of Bleach was fantastically animated. I really have no clue why they decided to do that episode like that, but whatever. Also the Final 2 arcs of Bleach also were pretty well done. I especially loved the final fight with Kageroza at the end of the Filler arc. Though in all honesty the only time I really think Bleach had consistently bad looking episodes was during the Rurichiyo filler arc. Naruto always got the short end of the stick and I never really understood why. |
LordAura said: The entirety of the Hisagi vs Findorr episode of Bleach was fantastically animated. I really have no clue why they decided to do that episode like that, but whatever. Also the Final 2 arcs of Bleach also were pretty well done. I especially loved the final fight with Kageroza at the end of the Filler arc. Though in all honesty the only time I really think Bleach had consistently bad looking episodes was during the Rurichiyo filler arc. Naruto always got the short end of the stick and I never really understood why. Kubo once stated that he didn't expect Hisagi to become popular among the fans. I think that was one of the reasons why they "sakuga'd" his fight with Findorr. I can't say for sure though as I didn't watch Bleach when it was still airing so I wasn't up to date with all the commotion it had during the time it aired. |
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yhunata said: no, i mean the battle between oga VS Furuichi is more detailed in manga! yes ANIMATION, but doesn't exactly animation in real term since manga don't have it. but still wasted lot of potential great scene animation.Unyilkdr said: This is why I say you people need to understand the difference between animation and art.actually, it's failure adaptation. less funny, bad script, bad fillers and average animation compare to manga. but if they stand alone, they are good. |
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Unyilkdr said: yhunata said: no, i mean the battle between oga VS Furuichi is more detailed in manga! yes ANIMATION, but doesn't exactly animation in real term since manga don't have it. but still wasted lot of potential great scene animation.This is why I say you people need to understand the difference between animation and art. The anime didn't even get as far as that fight. |
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yhunata said: sorry, its not furuichi. forgot the name, the strongest people in the oga highschool before he enter it.Unyilkdr said: The anime didn't even get as far as that fight.no, i mean the battle between oga VS Furuichi is more detailed in manga! yes ANIMATION, but doesn't exactly animation in real term since manga don't have it. but still wasted lot of potential great scene animation. |
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_Raku_ said: CyberAnimeLover said: No.Toei is shit but Pierrot is on a whole other levelBetter than Toei tho =P Come on,isn't toei liek more shiet since dere animez are made onz windowz mediaz playaz or somethinz ? |
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yhunata said: at least don't delete the detail of batle. just use average animation and there is no problem. and sadly they use amazing animation in hilda scane just some episode after that (and it's not batle, just story about hilda and beel if i am not wrong).Well, Tamura doesn't have the constraints of a budget. |
KumaJul 27, 2015 7:39 AM
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| I wonder if they watch what they are making and think like " What the fuck am I watching?! What is this shitty excuse for an animation?! I can't believe I work at this company." but they probably don't care as long as its sells. |
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CyberAnimeLover said: _Raku_ said: No.Toei is shit but Pierrot is on a whole other level Come on,isn't toei liek more shiet since dere animez are made onz windowz mediaz playaz or somethinz ? Toei must be pretty damn good if they can pull that off. |
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FireEmblemIke24 said: this. try mononoke, you will like it.CyberAnimeLover said: Toei must be pretty damn good if they can pull that off.Come on,isn't toei liek more shiet since dere animez are made onz windowz mediaz playaz or somethinz ? |
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| Could someone explain how exactly is low budget linked with shit animation? Eventually animators will still have to draw that shit, so do they intenitionally make it look like shit just to get those 10 bucks more? Or are they outsourcing it to high school clubs? |
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CyberAnimeLover said: _Raku_ said: No.Toei is shit but Pierrot is on a whole other level Come on,isn't toei liek more shiet since dere animez are made onz windowz mediaz playaz or somethinz ? >butthurt Pierrot fan bashing Toei >hasnt watched Mononoke >hasnt watched Kuuchuu Buranko >hasnt watched Kyousogiga >hasnt watched their movies oh.... ok |
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