My Youth Romantic Comedy Is Wrong, As I Expected (light novel)
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Damn, he's gonna keep pulling this shit ain't he? I understand yuki/yui's reactions but that entire scene felt very lame outside of the big balls hachiman had. |
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| Wow. Another excellent episode. Things are definitely progressing along nicely, and it seems like there might be a change to the status quo before long. And I never would've guessed that Ebina and Hikigaya had anything in common. |
Kitchiri said: The reason Yukino is disappointed was not because Hachiman was going social suicide. She didn't really say anything when he did the exact same thing in the last season. The problem with Hachiman's method this time is that result of his action was completely different. Instead of mocking the untruthful relationship and cynically destroying it just like he did last time, he admits the needs of these superficial relationship and sacrifices himself just to maintain that. Just like Hachiman was disappointed in Yukino in the 1st season, it is now Yukino's turn to realise that Hachiman is also an imperfect human being. Yui is also worried that Hachiman his hurting himself, which is truthful reaction as a friend. However, Hachiman is still blindfolded by his own idealism and deceiving his own feeling. Hachiman already knows what he did was paradoxical - he is indeed the biggest liar of all. That's why he is dai-sensei. Some one understands me xD. And to qoute something from the Novel: Again this is a spoiler so be WARNED ! Anime only Viewers ! |
| Yui definitely handled that better than Yukino, she really went off the rails there. Hachiman's changing. |
| That was one great episode! Really liked it, no, loved it! Looks like Yui, Yukinon, and maybe, just maybe, Ebina have feelings for Hachiman!? I love the series. |
 "No matter how far you travel, you can never get away from yourself." -- Murakami Haruki |
Kitchiri said: The reason Yukino is disappointed was not because Hachiman was going social suicide. She didn't really say anything when he did the exact same thing in the last season. The problem with Hachiman's method this time is that result of his action was completely different. Instead of mocking the untruthful relationship and cynically destroying it just like he did last time, he admits the needs of these superficial relationship and sacrifices himself just to maintain that. Just like Hachiman was disappointed in Yukino in the 1st season, it is now Yukino's turn to realise that Hachiman is also an imperfect human being. Yui is also worried that Hachiman his hurting himself, which is truthful reaction as a friend. However, Hachiman is still blindfolded by his own idealism and deceiving his own feeling. Hachiman already knows what he did was paradoxical - he is indeed the biggest liar of all. That's why he is dai-sensei. This made a lot of fcking sense, seriously tho how he did it this time and the last time are exact opposites, the last time ''part where he made those kids scared as fck and pretend like bullies'' this time he does the exact opposite and let them maintain that ''group for benefits'' that group has. Yes he did the RIGHT thing by saving them but that destroys his ideals that their group should be torn down since its full of lies and inconsistensy. Am I spot on or somethings a bit off? not a LN reader so Im basing this on how I saw it and how some of the other people here see's it. |
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Smudy said: Yui definitely handled that better than Yukino, she really went off the rails there. Hachiman's changing. Oh, love.... |
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VanishingKira said: I fucking knew Hiki was going to confess,always neglecting himself for the sake of others.But in return ignoring everyone else's feelings of him hurting himself for the sake of others. Honestly think Yui handle the situation better than Yukino who went a little overboard. Hiki seems to be changing to some degree going based on what he said at the end. Well Yui is a nice girl and she essentially acts as the mediator in the club so that's expected as well as her hidden agenda. And concerning Yukino, well future episodes will show why she acted the way she did. And people really praising Hikki for his actions not knowing that the things he says is nothing more than sophistry. :) |
| I honestly don't get it. Ebina is such a cool person,why is she in that kind of group? That group doesn't deserve her and I don't get what friendship they're trying to protect. But then again,"humans". Ugh,I wish they would leave Hachiman alone,he does great and doesn't need to change. |
| ...ALL MY FEELS (>w<) I love the part that someone was finally able to relate and understand Hachiman (I want more Ebina X Hachiman) and hope the rest will understand him better... ...this episode left soooo much feels for me I had to lay down for while (*-*) |
Smudy said: Yui definitely handled that better than Yukino, she really went off the rails there. Hachiman's changing. You nailed it. Hachiman is changing for good, |
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| Absolutely loved this episode. Hachiman's monologues are amazing as ever, I have never been so interested in the side characters as I was in this episode. Apparently next episode will be good so I'm definitely looking forward to that. |
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straggy said: Funny, in case you don't realise, people can be flawed. Yukino's problem, among other things, clearly has to do with 8man's action being in support of the superficial relationship that both of them previously agreed on single mindedly hating. TyphoonS said: I hope you understand that the only reason Yukino got angry at Hachiman is because Hachiman treats himself like shit that no one cares about. He isn't thinking about Yui or Yukino. He isn't thinking of the fact that Yukino cares about him and doesn't want to see him put himself as the shitty guy who interrupted someone else's confession midway. (Which is a horrible thing to do...most effective method but not the most good one.) . Hachiman is too good of a guy. He is helping out people that aren't even that close to him all the while making himself look like the bad guy. Yukino and Yui ...being the people that care about him...don't want to see him do that anymore. It seems that Hachiman doesn't care about anyone else's feelings but his own. (In their eyes...because Hachiman keeps ignoring the fact that those 2 care about him.) . So , in short...it was not a stupid reason. She doesn't like Hachiman potraying himself as the bad guy because she cares for him. Like the teacher said in the previous episode..''It's not bad to get scolded..getting scolded means someone is looking out for you.'' No, it's definitely a stupid reason. Yukino should be more bothered about the fact that Hachiman's the only person willing to actually help Ebina rather than the fact that people look down on him, which they do anyway, with or without his input. And lol it's not horrible to interrupt a confession that shouldn't happen. It made everyone uncomfortable and made something that everyone knew was going to end badly public. Tobe shouldn't have confessed to her where everyone was fucking watching... it's as bad as public proposals. It was pressuring her, when Hachiman helped her say what she wanted to say. Honestly, Yukino's being selfish by putting the fact that she thinks Hachiman should be respected over the feelings of numerous people, including a girl that's being pressurised to date. Besides, it's Hachiman's reputation, not her's. She doesn't own him. He's perfectly within his rights to allow himself to be perceived however he damn well pleases. If you want all the characters wise and insightful giving out sagely advice, then you can go watch Mahouka and indulge your petty wish fulfilment. Characters may not always act in ways agreeable to you - neither do people - it's part of what constitutes art and life. If Yukino were to meekly stand by his side and sing his praises, then she would be no better than all waifu baits the genre is rife with. |
| Nice save Hachiman... well at the cost of damaging your established friendships. Wow that ending scene, haven't seen Hachiman reflect on his decision in such a manner before. |
G_Spark233 said: Absolutely loved this episode. Hachiman's monologues are amazing as ever, I have never been so interested in the side characters as I was in this episode. Apparently next episode will be good so I'm definitely looking forward to that. Next episodes gonna be full on drama BABY. And it will hopefully convince people that Hachiman isn't really the Hero people claim him to be. He's a socially retarded teenager who makes assumptions using logic, not understanding the feelings behind the people he helps. Not to mention he's a Hypocrite :) |
| Really enjoyed this episode.Great as expected. Didn't expect someone to relate to Hachiman, I like where this is going. Didn't think I'd mind the change in Hachiman's design except no more "dead fish eyes" :(. |
| "As you can see, being in a group brings no advantages to the individual. Thus, I choose to be the bear, a beast that refuses to form groups with others. It’s an animal of isolation that’s not at all worried about its solitary lifestyle. Let’s not forget that bears get to hibernate as well. Oh, what a wonderful existence. If I’m ever reincarnated, I most certainly would like to be reborn as a bear." |
| Rewatched the episode and I have to say I really enjoyed the dialogue in this one. The whole interaction between him and Hayama mid-episode was well done. I made a mistake on my first post, the atmosphere is definitely not the same as it was in season 1. Well, it strongly resembles episode 11-12. I guess the light novel readers were correct, this season will turn out to be a lot darker. The lightheartedness from season 1 is pretty much gone. Not that I mind. Makes me want to watch the future episodes even more. |
NudeBearApr 10, 2015 6:37 AM
| Another bold yet effective move from Hachiman. Nice one. This episode reminded me how good this show could be. |
| I like anime. |
Kitchiri said: The reason Yukino is disappointed was not because Hachiman was going social suicide. She didn't really say anything when he did the exact same thing in the last season. The problem with Hachiman's method this time is that result of his action was completely different. Instead of mocking the untruthful relationship and cynically destroying it just like he did last time, he admits the needs of these superficial relationship and sacrifices himself just to maintain that. Just like Hachiman was disappointed in Yukino in the 1st season, it is now Yukino's turn to realise that Hachiman is also an imperfect human being. Yui is also worried that Hachiman his hurting himself, which is truthful reaction as a friend. However, Hachiman is still blindfolded by his own idealism and deceiving his own feeling. Hachiman already knows what he did was paradoxical - he is indeed the biggest liar of all. That's why he is dai-sensei. This. His idealism will leave him alone if he continues like this, but somehow it looks like Hachiman started to doubt about himself. ''the biggest liar of all'' |
Jonny_MhlApr 10, 2015 6:42 AM
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| Komachi was so kawaii at the start :3 Really missed her. Best girl imouto <3 8man waking up to Saika's face calling his name. Damn he's lucky :P Loved the YuixHikki haunted house scene was really nice:3 "I feel like livestock being fed. I can get used to this" XD The way things went were quite something. Really loved the Yui "Don't do that again" scene. Really love this girl <3 The Hina-Hikki scene on the roof was really nice. Man Hikki's monologues are just too goat! |
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| I legitimately loved this episode! 8man and his greatness was the reason I even enjoyed the first season and I glad the second season is giving us more. I knew he'd so something like that in the end. And his banter with Hina was great. Definitely enjoying the second season. |
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| God, I love this anime so much! |
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| Loved this episode but man I really felt bad for Hachiman specially after he got rejected, even though he supposedly faked it. I felt like his feeling were crushed. Poor Hachiman. |
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| Hachiman is the ultimate martyr. Sure, his methods are unconventional, he still solves it nonetheless. I liked the way Yui handled the situation compared to Yukino. Yui showed concern and compassion in her manner of confronting Hachiman. Yukino on the other hand, was too direct/hurtful. At this point in the anime, I think he was better off being alone - No pain. He doesn't have to lie to himself. He doesn't have to belittle himself for other' sake. Overall, GREAT EPISODE! |
You can just be yourself. Do things your own way, one step at a time. You'll get there. Just be yourself, you'll be fine." ~Fruit Basket |
| 'Food tastes divine when you don't have to work for it.' - Hikky <3 |
| 8man's group like his ideas; they think they are effective but they hate how he executes them. If they hate it that much then they should come up with a plan and do it better, not just say they hate it and walk away. |
| There's no magical spell to save someone's life. |
| 8man taking the dark knight's role again. Impressive yet frustrating. You don't want someone you care about get hurt, and on 8man's case, he intentionally hurt himself. Yukino has all the reason in the world to get mad at him. Welp, this 2 episodes now managed to persuade me to read the LN. Even if I think they did a fantastic job cramming a volume into 2 episodes, I still feel left out. I couldn't see the whole picture. |
| Hachiman shouldn't even bother with the damn people in this show already. For real. |
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| Next week's episode: T_T |
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| I knew Hachiman was gonna spring one off his 'all-for-the best' solution regarding Tobe's doomed to failure confession, but it still pains me how he still chooses those ways that might seem all the best for the people he's trying to help, but which in small ways hurts himself. |
| Many that live deserve death. And some that die deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be too eager to give out death in judgement. For even the very wise cannot see all ends. |
| I just rewatched the episode and I think Yukino is upset because the two of them shared an unwritten mutal agreement on Hayama's group and its superficial relationship. But Hachiman's actions in this episode kind of betrayed Yukino and Hachiman's the bond between them. |
| Even when I was in crowd, I was always alone |
| This would be quite great episode in terms of pacing, dialogues and character reactions. I liked how Hiki resolved whole conflict with no collateral damage. I liked how Yukino went away in anger because Hiki made himself suffer. I liked how Yui was grateful for the group but angered at the same because she loves him too and didn't wanted to see him confessing to someone else first. I liked how Ebina disclosed her feelings to Hiki on the roof (I know it's very unlike for this seriesc but it would be kinda nice if they ended together as they understand each other pretty well) But... when you finish this episode and realize that just about everyone in the group except Tobe knew about it you invevitably come to conclusion it wouldn't work so smoothly in real life. Because the knowing alone would be enough to shift relations in their group. They will always know and you can never pretend everytime. Not to mention this situation was as detached from ordinary life as it could be. People are selfish beings. Noone would think of group wellbeing if there was some gain for him. Especially when romantic relations are concerned. And that's why I have some reservations for this episode. But other than that, it was great watch, I hope next episodes would be at least this great. |
| The Hikki x Totsuka ship is very strong. I am looking more forward to that than the future love triangle |
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| Hachiman has to take so much shit for people. As soon as he confessed I felt bad for him. It's not wonder he has such a warped view of life. But it looks like Yukino and Yui both realize what he is doing. And they don't like that he is hurting himself for others. Yui said it best, he needs to realize the feelings of other people that actually care about his own well being, namely Yui and Yukino. It is shown in the food sharing scene, and the aftermath of the confession. The truth is Hachiman gets results though, unlike Hayato. Someone who is indecisive versus someone who takes action was ever present in the first season, and it is coming to a head now with both Hayato and Hachiman discussing there ideals. But sooner or later this is going to blow up in Hachiman's face. He can't keep being the sacrifice. |
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| Good episode. Hachiman's dark philosophy is shown here, and people shouldn't shit on Yui and Yukino..really as Shizuka said before "Hikigaya, saving someone isn't an excuse to hurt yourself, even if you're used to the pain, you should realize there are people whose heart would break each time they see you hurt yourself''. He is basically hurting his friends too. |
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| 'Food tastes divine when you don't have to work for it' He pretty much won there. Hachiman's the real dude here, getting shot just to help someone, even if he doesn't care and he doesn't even get a 'Thank you', atleast from the people he wants to hear it from. ''Everyone has something they hold dear, something they never want to lose. Thats why they pretend. Thats why they hide the truth and thats why they lie.... but.. the biggest liar of all.. was me'' -Hikigaya Hachiman |
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| I really love this anime <3 The scene after the confession with yukino's anger and yui's tears made me a little sad as well...Hachiman why do you need to sacrifice yourself again?? Ebina and Hachiman understand each other very well... I'm not a LN reader so I can't tell if the episode was rushed but in my opinion it was a very good episode Looking forward for the next episode <3 |
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| Hachiman was looking down on the popular kids clique. He pointed out how their friendship was too shallow to begin with if it would break apart from just one confession. However, it was not up to him to decide whether that friendship is worth keeping alive or not. It's not his group, after all. On the other hand, everyone who turned to him - Hayama, Miura and most of all Ebina - they all told him that they want to keep things as they are, that their group is precious to them. It was never about whether or not Hachiman approves of their relationship. It's about whether or not he's willing to go all-out for them and apply his best solution, hurting himself in the process. Some people here mentioned that it's unlike Hachiman to support this kind of shallow relationship. But I wonder, did he help because he started 'approving' of it, thus betraying his own ideal? Here's what I'm getting at: Hachiman, though he might not admit it, is an extremely nice guy. Sure, he won't mince words and he's super negative 24/7. But thinking back on Season 1, did he ever ignore anyone who needed help? Did he ever half-ass his attempts at helping people, or gave up midway through? The people he saved never had a lot to do with him. Sagami was really more of an enemy than a friend, and by all means, she definitely deserved to face the full consequences of her deeds. And yet, Hachiman sacrificed himself even for her. That's the kind of guy Hachiman is. If someone needs help, he'll help them. And he'll go all-out on it. So I really don't think that Hachiman actually approved of Hayama's 'shallow' group. He helped Hayama's group because they asked him for help and he saved it because it was precious to its members. |
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